In A Mess Of Corruption & Neoliberal Austerity, Syriza Sells Greece Out To The Highest Bidders

Rather than casting off the shackles of the EU, eurozone and IMF, the Syriza-led Greek government favors the ‘oligarchs’ it once vowed to tear down and doubles down on austerity measures, leaving Greek people to suffer through a modern colonial nightmare.
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    ATHENS — (Analysis) Stories of human suffering continue to multiply in present-day Greece, which is loosely governed by the “first time left” government of Syriza and more directly by the European institutions and the International Monetary Fund.

    In the city of Patra, an elderly woman whose only source of income is her severely battered pension, from which she supports her two grandchildren, had her electricity service cut in the presence of a police SWAT team, despite her reliance on an oxygen concentrator to live. Her son was arrested for protesting the action and brought before a prosecutor.

    Police in the city of Katerini, implementing the government’s crusade against purported “tax evaders” to the letter, arrested a father of three, whose spouse is unemployed, for selling pastries on the street without a license, fining him €5,000 ($5,627) for the infraction. The man is well-known in his community for donating his unsold pastries to local children and a local home for seniors at the end of each day.



    I’ve also heard the story of an impoverished cancer patient in Thessaloniki, who, according to the eyes of the law, was another one of those lazy, corrupt Greeks guilty of dipping their hands too deeply into the public trough. Her meal card which allowed her to eat at a local soup kitchen was revoked, simply because she was concurrently receiving state aid for being a cancer patient.

    On the island of Samos, a short distance from the Turkish coast, uniformed German police freely patrol the streets of the main town, Vathi, purportedly on the lookout for refugees, while German coast guard boats sit docked in the harbor. A few kilometers away, in the mountain village of Manolates, residents and shopkeepers listen to Turkish music on the radio—as no reception of Greek broadcasters was possible.

    Finally, in my own neighborhood in Athens, 17 out of 22 storefronts lie vacant in a three-block stretch, “for rent” signs fading slowly from view. A once-beautiful park and playground lies vacant, entrances chained shut, while overgrown weeds cover this former piece of urban green space.

    None of these stories are likely to make it into Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras’ forthcoming state of the union speech at the Thessaloniki Trade Fair. The prime minister is much more likely to tell us that unemployment has purportedly decreased, that Greece has emerged from recession (just as it supposedly did in 2014), that industrial production has dramatically increased, that the country is returning to economic growth, and that it is pursuing closer defense and military ties with the United States and NATO.

     

    Syriza-led Greek state strips itself of sovereignty

    Reality, however, is much more grim. In May, without parliamentary debate, the Syriza-led government passed a 7,500 page omnibus bill that transferred control over Greece’s public assets to a fund controlled by the European Stability Mechanism for the next 99 years.

    These assets include airports, harbors, public beaches and coastline, and natural resources.

    Earlier this year, 14 profitable regional airports were sold to the German publicly-owned corporation Fraport, while a majority stake in the port of Piraeus, one of the largest ports in Europe, was sold to Chinese-owned Cosco for €365 million—equal to 15 days’ worth of debt repayments—while its facilities alone are valued at more than €5 billion. The national railway, TRAINOSE, including all infrastructure and trains, was sold to Italy’s Ferrovie Dello Stato Italiane for a mere €45 million, with the company’s debt was written off as part of the sale. The site of the former international airport of Athens, once slated to become Europe’s largest urban park, was sold to a consortium of investors from Greece, China, and the United Arab Emirates, led by the Latsis family of Greek shipping tycoons, who plan to construct luxury resorts and shopping malls on the site.

    In May, Syriza’s cabinet presented plans to sell a 49-percent stake in the water utilities of Athens and Thessaloniki, plus 18 additional privatizations instead of the nine initially agreed to with creditors in the third memorandum. Prior to being elected in January 2015, Syriza promised to put an end to the privatization of public assets, and it vowed not to privatize water in its September 2015 platform.

    Nevertheless, the Syriza government has committed to completing the privatization of numerous key assets, including the natural gas utility and the state’s stake in Athens’ Eleftherios Venizelos international airport, by November.

    Also as part of the omnibus bill, the Greek parliament rendered itself voteless, as the legislation annuls the role of parliament to create a national budget or pass tax legislation. In earlier legislation, the government had agreed to submit all pending bills to the group of lenders known as the “troika” (European Commission, European Central Bank, and the IMF) for approval, reminiscent of the German Reichstag’s willful relinquishment of legislative power to then-Chancellor Adolf Hitler in 1933.

     

    Taxes skyrocket and Greeks are unable to pay

    Further illustrating just how much sovereignty has been stripped from the Greek state, the omnibus legislation also foresees the activation of automatic spending cuts, including salaries, without any parliamentary intervention if Greece fails to achieve targets for a primary surplus. In order to attain a primary surplus, spending has already been slashed dramatically, furthering the spiral of austerity Tsipras had once promised to end with “one law and one article.”

    Instead of austerity being abolished with one law and one article, Greek citizens have a new, crippling tax avalanche to look forward to beginning this autumn. On Aug. 29, this year’s unified property tax (ENFIA) was sent out to all property owners, with seven in ten businesses facing an increase this year. This is the same tax which members of the Syriza-Independent Greeks coalition government had denounced prior to being elected, claiming it was unconstitutional, promising to repeal it once in office, and instructing citizens on how to avoid paying it.

    Once Syriza and the Independent Greeks came to power, however, payment of the ENFIA was described by the government as a “patriotic duty.”

    Meanwhile, the Greek government is preparing to introduce a nationwide “asset registry” for taxation purposes, in which citizens will be obliged to declare not only their incomes and real estate, but everything from jewelry to family heirlooms, and even the amount of cash in their possession. This Orwellian measure will be supplemented by a national transaction registry, where essentially every bank transaction and purchase from each citizen will be tracked. Within five years, owners of homes and commercial buildings will be required to hire civil engineers to submit detailed blueprints and videos of their structures in order obtain a “structural identification” certificate—or risk steep fines or demolition.

    These new taxes and measures are set to be enforced despite the growing inability of citizens and businesses to pay. The first half of 2016 saw a €1 billion shortfall in the collection of the value-added tax, while €272 million worth of income taxes for this year—about 25 percent of total expected revenue—remains unpaid. This is not due to a purported culture of “tax evasion,” but due to declining incomes and a general inability to pay.

    Evidence of citizens’ inability to pay abounds. Deposits in Greece’s shattered banking system declined by €160 million in July alone. The number of employed people not being paid has reached 1 million, and 500,000 Greeks are paid less than €412 per month for their labor.

    Eurostat figures from the fourth quarter of 2015 show that just 4.3 percent of the unemployed in Greece were able to find jobs. Greek families, who once took pride in passing property down from generation to generation, leading to the highest rate of homeownership in Europe, now find themselves rejecting inheritances from deceased relatives in record numbers, due to the tremendous tax burden.

     

    Further fueling the oncoming storm, the Syriza government has committed to sweeping home foreclosures and auctions this autumn, while confiscations of funds from ever-dwindling bank accounts for unpaid debts to the state continue unabated. The government estimates it will collect over €2 billion from these confiscations by the end of the year.

    In the meantime, the omnibus bill passed in May lowered the basic pension to a paltry €345-384 per month, while the value-added tax on many basic goods, including necessities like soap, was hiked to 24 percent. Following the initial slashing of basic pensions by up to 48 percent in June, aid for poor families and the disabled has been slashed almost in half beginning with this month’s payments.

    Supplementary pensions for 150,000 recipients have been cut further, by as much as 38 percent, with further reductions slated for October. In response to the cuts, Giorgos Katrougalos, the labor minister who participated in the 2011 protests of the anti-austerity “indignants,” stated that the new system will “protect all Greeks from poverty,” adding that had pensions not been reduced, they would not be issued at all. Not convinced, pensioners have already begun to protest outside government ministries.

    Meanwhile, the number of households which qualify for subsidized heating oil has been cut in half, the fuel and oil tax has once again been hiked, co-payments on prescription drugs covered by public insurance funds have been raised by 25 percent, while suffering small businesses have been further burdened by an increase in their tax rate from 26 percent to 29 percent. In a recent televised interview, Syriza MP Hara Kafantari stated that “the days where a shop owner was his own boss are over.” This perhaps helps explain why Greece’s burgeoning startup scene is being driven out amid Syriza’s excessive and unpredictable taxation.

     

    Broadcasting licensing process rife with corruption

    Syriza’s recent licensing bid for national television broadcasters is emblematic of its reign in office thus far. Diaploki is a Greek word which perfectly sums up the triangle of corruption and interplay between major political and business interests and the state. One of Syriza’s numerous pre-election pledges was to rout the “oligarchs” who control the media and much of the economy and put an end to this diaploki.

    On Sept. 1, the Syriza-led government triumphantly claimed to have fulfilled this promise through the completion of the auctioning process for four licenses for national “general-interest” television stations. This announcement was accompanied by claims that “fairness” and “rule of law” had been “restored” after 27 years of “lawlessness” on the Greek airwaves (broadcasters have up until now been operating under a framework of provisional legality).

    In Greece, the rabbit hole of diaploki runs deep—and this has not changed in the slightest during Syriza’s reign. The bidding process was both farcical and inhuman: The bidders were said to have been locked in isolated rooms in the headquarters of the Greek Secretariat for Press and Media, without any ability to communicate with each other or with the outside world for 70 hours, purportedly to ensure a “clean” bidding process.

    In reality, though, the process was rife with illegalities, contradictions, inconsistencies, and absurdities, and it completely lacked transparency. It has also put six of Greece’s eight largest private television broadcasters in danger of being forced off the airwaves by the year’s end, including the top station in the ratings, Alpha TV.

    Most significantly, perhaps, is the fact that the licensing process was conducted by the government itself, instead of by Greece’s independent licensing body for broadcasters, the National Commission for Radio-Television (NCRTV), which has remained defunct for most of the past year. This contradicts both the Greek constitution and European regulations which call for licensing processes to be conducted by independent bodies. The bid was based on the false premise that there were only enough frequencies available to license four national privately-owned broadcasters—two frequencies with two HD outlets each.

    This claim is contradicted by the hundreds of digital stations broadcasting in Italian cities and the multiple HD channels per frequency on Britain’s Freeview service.

    Further, while the government has repeatedly hinted that licenses for national “thematic” (special-interest stations) will be issued, it has not stated when this will happen, how many licenses will be issued, or through which process.

    This immediately contradicts the government’s claim that, aside from technical reasons, the number of national general-interest licenses was limited to four due to the limited size of the Greek advertising market and the purported desire to ensure economically “viable” licensees.

    How could bidders gauge their viability and bid accordingly, without knowing what the future marketplace will look like?

    Adding to the confusion, upon completion of the licensing process, the government announced that it is pushing back the licensing process for “thematic” stations indefinitely and intends to instead focus next on the licensing of regional broadcasters through a similar process which would put most of Greece’s 100-plus regional stations at risk of being forced off the air. Already having been battered by the economic crisis, these regional stations would be unable to afford the steep cost of participating in the bidding process.

    Following this, thematic licenses may be issued on a national basis, while similar licensing procedures for radio have been forewarned.

    The licensing process also does not include any criteria whatsoever for the quality of programming, for balanced news presentation, or for public service programming. The only criterion which mattered was money, and with a limited amount of licenses being issued, the cost of each license was artificially driven upward, ensuring only the deepest of deep pockets–oligarchs, in other words–could participate.

    It also ensured that should this licensing process be finalized and not legally struck down, Greece might just become the first country where fewer television stations will remain on the air in the digital era, instead of more.

     

    Once out to fight the ‘oligarchs,’ Syriza’s given them TV stations instead

    Syriza has repeatedly promised to “clean up” the airwaves and end diaploki. But just who are the oligarchs who successfully bid for licenses? Two of them, Giannis Alafouzos and Theodoros Kyriakou, own incumbent broadcasters Skai TV and Antenna TV, respectively. These two stations led the vociferous “pro-yes” media brigade prior to the July 2015 referendum.

    Alafouzos, a shipowner, was found to be in possession of over €50 million in undeclared funds and had his assets frozen last month, pending an investigation for tax evasion. One of Skai’s main commentators, Bambis Papadimitriou, is notorious for having suggested that the previous conservative government of New Democracy could benefit from forming a coalition with a “serious” Golden Dawn, Greece’s far-right party.

    Antenna TV, like Skai, is owned by a family of shipping and oil magnates. Antenna Group’s investments span multiple industries and over a dozen countries, while the station’s founder, Minos Kyriakou, has had his share of legal troubles in the past, including a jail sentence for illegal structures constructed in the resort region of Porto Heli (this sentence was later appealed down to a fine). Antenna, like Skai, also vehemently supported the pro-austerity “yes” vote in the 2015 referendum, likening the “yes” versus “no” option to a choice between being like Europe or “becoming Zimbabwe.”

    The cases of the other two licensees, neither of whom are currently in possession of a television station, are even more egregious. One of the winning bidders is Vaggelis Marinakis, a shipping mogul and football magnate, who is facing at least five criminal investigations on charges ranging from match-fixing to directing a criminal organization.

    Marinakis is also said to have been involved in the case of the “Noor 1,” a ship which Greek authorities found to be transporting 2.1 tons of heroin and which may be linked to Marinakis through close associates of his. Marinakis is a city councilman in Piraeus, while his right-hand man from the Olympiacos football club, Yannis Moralis, is mayor. Together, they exert control over the municipal radio station of Piraeus, Kanali 1. On Tuesday, prosecutors in Greece recommended that Marinakis be jailed pending trial on charges of match-fixing.

    But perhaps the most flagrant case of all is that of Christos Kalogritsas, a former publisher-turned-construction magnate, and his son, Ioannis-Vladimiros Kalogritsas. Christos Kalogritsas’ construction firm, Toxotis S.A., is the recipient of numerous state contracts issued by the Syriza-led government for public works projects throughout Greece.

    Toxotis S.A. recently purchased Medousa, a competing construction firm. It was formerly known as Tsipras ATE and owned by Pavlos Tsipras, father of Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras.

    Christos Kalogritsas and his wife are currently facing civil and criminal charges for an alleged €51 million in unpaid taxes, while employees at Toxotis S.A. have previously gone on strike over six months of unpaid wages. The Kalogritsas family also owns significant shares in Attica Bank, one of the banks which has been repeatedly recapitalized by Greek taxpayers.

    It is from Attica Bank that Ioannis-Vladimiros Kalogritsas provided a letter of guarantee worth €3 million in order to participate in the television licensing bid. This letter was submitted past the deadline set by the government for participation in the bid, but was nevertheless accepted.

    Additionally, Christos Kalogritsas has close ties to current defense minister, Panos Kammenos; the current minister of infrastructure, transport and networks, Christos Spirtzis (whose ministry oversees public works projects and matters pertaining to broadcast frequency allocation); and celebrity television personality Nikos Evaggelatos. Kalogritsas is also said to maintain a “brotherly” friendship with current minister of state, Nikos Pappas, who oversaw the television licensing process. He is also a primary shareholder of polling firm GPO, one of the many Greek polling firms which receives state funding and which has repeatedly produced grossly inaccurate public opinion and exit poll results.

    Further adding to the web of corruption, both Marinakis and the Kalogritsas family are represented by the attorney Giannis Mantzouranis. Mantzouranis also happened to represent the Greek state in the recent television licensing process. Clearly, conflicts of interest are not a concern for Syriza. In the late 1980s, Mantzouranis had been jailed as part of the wide-ranging Koskotas money-laundering scandal.

    He is also one of the attorneys of investigative journalist-turned-Syriza cheerleader Kostas Vaxevanis, who through his involvement in the HellasNet network of regional television stations, stands to be one of the beneficiaries of any bid for regional TV licenses.

     

    Diaploki is safe with Syriza in power

    While Syriza is making triumphant claims of “restoring rule of law” in the television landscape, its own party-owned radio station, Sto Kokkino, went on the air illegally in 2005 after purchasing the frequency of a radio station that went unlicensed during a 2001 bid (when, again, there were claims that there was “no room” for more stations). The station in question, NRG 105.5 FM, which is under the same ownership as Athens’ Kiss FM, had illegally returned to the airwaves.

    In 2006 and 2007, Sto Kokkino was shut down by authorities for broadcasting without a license, but the New Democracy government under Prime Minister Konstantinos Karamanlis later passed a law which legalized party-owned broadcast stations, permitting them to operate without a license. Sto Kokkino was therefore “legalized.”

    Meanwhile, Syriza continues to enforce a law passed by the previous conservative government which allows broadcast stations classified as “news” stations to switch classifications to “non-news,” but which does not provide the same privilege to “non-news” stations which wish to switch to news programming, thus creating a closed broadcast news marketplace. Sto Kokkino’s subsidiary stations throughout Greece violate this rule, but rather than changing the law and creating a level playing field, as Syriza is claiming to be doing now with the television licensing process, it keeps this blatantly undemocratic law as is and simply violates it for its own ends.

    All of this has taken place while the NCRTV remains defunct, with no frequency table having been publicized for television stations, and with 1,000-2,000 employees in the television sector facing unemployment if their stations are forced to close. This would also create a restricted and highly centralized and controlled television market. Prime Minister Tsipras, in a recent speech celebrating the opening of a new stretch of highway (constructed by Toxotis S.A.), promised to turn over the €246 million in revenue from the licensing bid “to the poor.”

    Of course, this assumes that money, which would be paid in three annual installments and only if the stations are profitable, is ever paid. Even so, EU officials have already stated that it will go toward Greece’s commitments to its lenders, not to the impoverished. They’ve also questioned  the licensing process itself.

    Tsipras also omitted from his speech the loss of tax receipts and insurance fund contributions from the six stations slated to shut down, and the combined €700 million in debts they owe to Greek banks, which would likely go unpaid if they go off the air and be thrust upon the shoulders of Greek taxpayers instead via yet another recapitalization.

    Make no mistake: Syriza’s “efforts” are not just contained to broadcast licensing. Syriza intends to create a state-run body to allocate advertising across media outlets, retaining a 30-percent commission for the state. Earlier in the year, government spokeswoman Olga Gerovasili announced the government’s intention to “restore order to the internet,” beginning with the creation of a registry of online news outlets and blogs. Registration was mandatory for all outlets which wished to be considered for state advertising expenditures—an easy way for any government to pay its way into the hearts of media owners.

    Another way is through patronage, as in the case of Giorgos Christoforidis, publisher of the (once) anti-austerity newspaper To Xoni and former candidate for parliament with the Independent Greeks. Christoforidis was appointed to a post in the government’s press office while continuing to publish To Xoni.

     

    Is it the new left or the old right? Who can tell?

    In the meantime, the Syriza-led government continues to operate with stunning arrogance and insensitivity. Proclamations are made for the “record” number of tourists visiting Greece—even while most tourist resort towns lay idle during the tourist season. In Samos, patrolled by German police, there were not many refugees in sight—nor many tourists. The vice president of the Syriza government, Giannis Dragasakis, has stated that it was a mistake for Syriza to have “demonized” the word “memorandum.”

    Syriza MP Makis Balaouras recently claimed that “austerity is not in Syriza’s DNA.” Economist Rania Antonopoulou, who holds the ironic portfolio of “alternate minister for combating unemployment,” recently wrote in the Syriza-owned Avgi newspaper that “the third memorandum has strengthened Greece’s position.” Nikos Xydakis, the foreign minister, recently said that Greece has renounced much of its national sovereignty. In a “let ‘em eat cake” moment, Deputy Minister for Social Solidarity Theano Fotiou remarked that “stuffed peppers could feed an entire family.” The start of the football season has been postponed, purportedly to stamp out corruption stemming from the same “oligarchs” who received television licenses.

    Defense Minister Panos Kammenos has proposed the construction of a NATO base in the southern Aegean island of Karpathos, while German-owned Fraport is preparing to install a new €13 per passenger tax at the regional airports it now controls. Over the summer, the government proudly proclaimed the “loosening” of stifling capital controls—as the restriction on bank withdrawals was changed from a €420 weekly limit, to an €840 cap every two weeks. Do the math. Schools go without janitorial staffs, university restrooms without toilet paper.

    All of this while there is nary a thought of departing the eurozone or following the example of British voters and waving goodbye to the EU. The signs were there about Syriza, its neoliberal tendencies, and the ensuing betrayal of its pre-election promises. Some warned about Syriza again, and again, and again, but those warnings fell on deaf ears.

    Most of the world celebrated Syriza’s victory in January 2015, while “leftist” media outlets and commentators ranging from Democracy Now! to Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, and others, have long forgotten about Greece or have excused away Syriza’s betrayal as simply the result of being “bullied” and “blackmailed” by the EU—which Greece must nevertheless remain a part of at “all costs.”

    In this modern-day debt colony the “leftist” government has demonstrated an astonishing arrogance in not only violating its pre-election promises and July 2015 referendum result, and agreeing to a third—and the most onerous to date—austerity program, but also continuing to pretend that it is acting in a “leftist” and “progressive” manner.

    All the while, it’s keeping Greece firmly shackled to the chains of the EU, eurozone, and IMF, while the Greek people seemingly have lost their pluck, devoid of any fight, resigned to their EU shackles.

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    • TeeJae

      From everything I’ve read about Greece, Syriza was legit and sincere in its promises. However, as is always the case, the Troika (ultimately controlled by Washington) won’t stand for a left-leaning, nationalist-leaning government that refuses to bend to the Power Elite’s will. Watch, Spain will be next.

      The people of Britain finally woke up. Greece needs to follow suit if they are to survive. Then Spain, then all other EU countries.

      • James Wherry

        TeeJae, apart from your refusal to condemn MintPressNews’ Pet Naz! (you sound like MIKE PENCE!), your post reads like a conspiracy theorists dream. Syriza and Greece can leave the EU. There are consequences, but they can do it.

        They may come out ahead, if they also leave NATO, form an alliance with Putin, and take over where Cyprus left off, by serving as a banker to the Russian Oligarchy Thugs who steal money and squirrel it away, abroad. Oh, but that would make them the Evil Bankers that they were supposed to hate. Oh, yeah.

      • orwell11

        There’s nothing leftist, legitimate or sincere about Syriza, and Syriza most definitely is NOT nationalist leaning!

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    • Cale

      By a complete lack of respect for individual countries and their habits, culture etc., these dangerous EU lunatics have done everything what Goldman Sachs and Merkel told them to do. Merkel knows that she cannot sell a new bank bail-out to the Germans, therefore they do it different and using “loans” to Greece, of which 95% stays one second in Greece before it is sent back to Western European banks, which are on the brink of bankruptcy: Paribas, Deutsche bank, Banco Santander and a few other big ones. The Greek people are incorrectly paying for this with their lives. This is a criminal scandal. And in the end, these banks will not be saved from bankruptcy. Nobody in the EU hierarchy cares about European people. Their game is dirty, very very dirty.

      • James Wherry

        Well, the Greeks could simply have not borrowed the money. I’m thinking the Germans expected a respect for their own culture of hard work and support for manufacturing and industry.

        “If we command our wealth, we shall be rich and free; if our wealth commands us, we are poor indeed.” – Edmund Burke. Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/e/edmund_burke.html

        • Michael Nevradakis

          The “Greeks” didn’t borrow the money. Their governments did. And before you tell us that those governments were elected, consider that a) those governments habitually lied to the people, b) that Greece’s debt as a ratio of GDP was not even a problem until the global financial collapse occurred and has only skyrocketed after successive “bailouts” added heavily to the debt, c) that it was due to EU policies and EU membership that Greek manufacturing, industry, and agriculture largely collapsed (for reasons explained in another comment, below), d) that the extent of borrowing was hidden from the voters, e) that much of the borrowed money was used in a corrupt and illegal manner, ending up in Swiss bank accounts of politicians for instance. Consider that and then think again about what the cause of Greece’s ills is.

          • martinInChemnitz

            The corrupt Greek elite is.
            The EU club of governments cannot/could not change anything..
            They could not have known what was coming.

          • James Wherry

            Michael, I said below that governments SOMETIMES do lie to their people. “When the leaders choose to make themselves bidders at an auction of popularity, their talents, in the construction of the state, will be of no service. They will become flatterers instead of legislators; the instruments, not the guides, of the people.”
            Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/e/edmund_burke.html

            Until 2008, the pyramid scheme was not exposed. Fake promises usually fall apart in times of economic crisis. One more reason never to borrow.

            • tapatio

              ,,.

              • James Wherry

                I’m surprised with you, Li’l Hitler. I know you want to condemn ONLY Jewish bankers, but my point in this thread has been that NO banker should “own a nation” and that all nations should stop borrowing to put an effective end to any POSSIBILITY that the sovereignty of “We the People” could ever be compromised by banking concerns.

                If that hurts Jewish bankers, “Tough: I don’t care.” I’m not a Jew, a banker or an Israeli. “Borrowing is bad,” except in the most egregious, extreme emergency.

                • tapatio

                  WHERRY, YOU ARE A HASBARA WH0RE FOR THE JEW BANKSTERS AND THEIR ZIONIST PET MONKEYS.

                  • James Wherry

                    And yet here I am, advocating that governments get out of the business of borrowing money-something that makes the Green party pee its collective pants, whenever it considers the idea that it not borrow money. That would end any further influence of banks over nations.

                    And here I am advocating that we the people overthrow “Citizens United” and reimpose campaign-finance limits. That would not just eliminate any undue influence by AIPAC, but by ANY PAC.

                    The facts of my post prove that you are a collective lying sack of human excrement. You will simply say anything to attack what you consider to be the “cardinal enemy” of humanity: the Jew. The Southern Poverty Law Center defines you as a member of a NAZ! hate group. You may have my address, but they sure have your number!

                    • tapatio

                      Wherry, like the vast majority of Jews and their lick-spittle minions (you), what you “advocate” is whatever serves your story of the moment.

                      THIS IS JEWISH TRUTH……………….
                      For anyone who doesn’t know, Henry Kissenger is a Jew and was Nixon’s Rasputin.

                      http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/truth-01.jpg

                      • James Wherry

                        And yet here I am, quite happily advocating removing ALL the FANGS from ALL the PACs – AIPAC and ALL THE PACS.

                        Kiss Kissinger’s rear end: he saved the Egyptian Third Army. You’re just angry with him because your goal is to “ERADICATE Judaism.” Israel is an impediment to your goal to KILL THE ALL THE JEWS, Haman, so you are angry with Kissinger for setting up what later became Carter’s Camp David.

                      • James Wherry
              • James Wherry

                You see the penis on TAPATIO’s meme? It’s what he wants. Here’s his post, asking me about mine to get his daily s-x high.

        • tapatio

          James Wherry is a “hasbara” troll for the cult/criminal cartel that owns World Bank, European Central Bank The Fed and virtually every other central, investment and commercial bank on Earth – the Rothschild-Bilderberg cartel of Predatory Capitalists.

          This cult/cabal has been accurately described by many, many great people, from Plato to George Bernard Shaw as “VAMPIRES”.

        • TeeJae

          You need to school yourself up on how the IMF coerces nationalist-leaning governments into crippling debt (there’s nothing “simple” about it)… followed by devastating austerity measures… followed by the government selling off public assets to the private sector in order to keep its head above water. It’s all part of the West’s hegemonic privatization scheme.

          • James Wherry

            You’re welcome to provide a summary with citations, but I got tired about 25 years ago of people saying, “You’re wrong: you should go research why I’m right and then you’ll see.”

            La-Zee.

            • TeeJae

              Hi, Pot. I’m Kettle. No wonder you’re so ignorant of the facts. You won’t even do your own research. Rather than relying on others to spoon feed you information (that you’d probably dismiss outright anyway), you would learn a lot more by educating yourself.

      • martinInChemnitz

        Greece is paying the pensions and the public sector salaries from credits.
        If you believe that the lenders could do anything about that please tell me what?
        What could they have done before 2008 when the truth broke?

        • Michael Nevradakis

          The truth didn’t break in 2008. The lies did, such as the fact that Greece’s deficit figures were falsified (i.e. made to look WORSE) in order to drag Greece under the IMF and troika oversight. Bet you haven’t heard that one before. The head of Greece’s Statistical Authority, a retired IMF official, is under criminal investigation for that little caper, even in a justice system as corrupt as Greece’s.

          • James Wherry

            I think the point Martin was making was “Citations, please?”

            Greece’s crisis was too public to be able to lie about. And deficit figures are what they are.

            • Michael Nevradakis

              No, they are not “what they are.” Who made you an expert on Greece? Nothing is “too public” to lie about either. Your quaint naivete about politicians, including those of the SYRIZA variety, is astounding.

              • James Wherry

                No, I am just not willing to engage in naïveté about voters. If the voters do not like him, they should kick him out. That is the only point that I was making.

                I do not need to be an expert on Greece: I know basic math. You are spending more than you are taking in. Either make more money, reduced benefits, or default on the loans and go your separate ways.

                Stop whining about the choices: those are the choices pick one.

                • Michael Nevradakis

                  Right now, Greece is running a primary surplus. What that means is that it is spending less than it is taking in. All that this is doing is worsening the country’s death spiral and leading to more and more austerity, as described in full detail in the article. Unless you think paying 24% VAT on milk and having hospitals without band-aids is “living beyond one’s means.” And as for picking a choice, tell that to the government in Greece that is lying and to the EU and IMF.

                  • James Wherry

                    No, VAT is on manufactured goods. What Germany does is impose it on ALL manufactured goods (imports and exports). That way, it does not violate GAT. Then, it removes is on all EXPORTS – that way, German exports can compete abroad. This is smart, but makes American Leftists ANGRY because they spend a lot of time “HATING” corporations as the source of all evil. To the American Far Left, “taxation” is a form of “punishment” for the undeserving.

                    As to the surplus, I’m glad for it, but is that before or after debt payments? Surpluses are a GREAT idea, not a bad idea, but I’d either default and use the money for positive good for the people, or else use it to pay off the banks and FOREVER ESCAPTE DEBT BONDAGE.

                    Incidentally, again I am sorry to have to “answer” TAPATIO and permit him to commandeer your webpage for his own Jew Hatred. His presence puts an end to any intelligent conversation. I have tried to avoid his perversion for the past day, but it seems no use.

                    Thanks for an intelligent conversation – whether we agree or not, it has been enjoyable.

                    Yes, I sincerely want to get to Greece and spend my tourism dollars in Greece. If you’ve read William Dalyrimple’s “From this Holy Mount,” I DO want to go to the Monastery where he starts his journey! Spend a week there, frankly!

            • tapatio
          • James Wherry

            Michael, you have my sincere regrets: apparently this thread is in the process of being taken over by the NAZ!, “TAPATIO.” He’s a homophobe and Jew Hater who has called to “ERADICATE Judaism” and now tells us that “There will not be peace so long as there’s a single Jew on the Earth.” So long as he’s around, there won’t be another intelligent discussion, despite my and your best efforts. You should consider contacting the MintPressNews publishers since they won’t listen to me.

            I think you and I disagree on who is responsible for the Greek mess, but we agree on the solution: leave the EU, follow the will of the people, default on debt, if necessary, and accept the consequences. In the future, stop borrowing and live within our means to put an “arm’s length” between the banks and the government of the People.

            Thanks for an intelligent conversation, and I am sorry it could not last, with the sort of vile NAZ!s who inhabit this website. If you check my comments, below, I have tried to answer the NAZ! in a civil manner. It is not easy.

          • tapatio

            The SAME predatory banking cartel that is destroying Greece is also attempting to destroy the rest of our world – including the United States.

            Below is the Rothschild-Bilderberg Predatory Capitalist Cartel – at the root of the corruption that has taken control of our country, its government, media and commerce. Until that corruption is rooted out and eradicated, America will continue to sicken and, eventually, die.
            These same Rothschilds, that hold controlling interest in the Federal Reserve today, also were patrons of Karl Marx and directed-financed the Bolshevik-Communist “revolution”. That one family name has been connected to more death and horror, over the last 300 years, than ALL other causes combined. The Rothschilds are, of course, Jewish.

            Rothschild Bank
            New Court
            St Swithin’s Lane
            London EC4N 8AL
            United Kingdom

            http://humansarefree.com/2013/11/complete-list-of-banks-ownedcontrolled.html

            (note: The list linked above includes only Central Banks in which the Rothschild/Bilderberg Cartel holds controlling interest. They also hold controlling interest in virtually every major
            commercial and investment bank on Earth)

            Rothschild History
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtiOEpOnqtI

            JFK and the Federal Reserve
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sJzPDOUvZE

            https://ia800308.us.archive.org/30/items/CreatureFromJekyllIslandByG.Edward-G.EdwardGriffin/CreatureFromJekyllIslandByG.Edward-G.EdwardGriffin.pdf

            http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-the-eight-families/25080

            https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/james_madison-moneychangers_banksters_control_of_government_by_controlling_money.jpg

            http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Nathan-Rothschild-and-famed-quote.jpg

            https://firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/why-the-jews-killed-jesus-jesus-jews-lulz-religion-1344086402.jpg?w=590

            http://shakeandwakeradio.com/1963-JFK.jpg

            https://rehmat1.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/rothschildpig1.jpg

            http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/956/598/d36.jpg

            The cartoons in this post are not “racist” because they are accurate caricatures of Jacob Rothschild and the star of david is the icon of Zionism – a political movement. It is also a reality that the vast majority of the leaders of this predatory cartel are from that ONE cult that comprises only 2/10ths of one percent of the world’s population, but provides a large double-digit percentage of the world’s criminals and two-legged predators.

          • James Wherry

            I recommend not feeding the Troll, TAPATIO. He is a NAZ! who keeps trying to make this thread and every other about his persistent hatred of JEWS.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/479c9b2d4000d1b054f7d0be892af088f25c6c8f9e46f801090fe83602cbc4a4.jpg
            TAPATIO is quoting from Adolph Hitler’s “On the Jewish Question” from his speech in 1939 before the Reichstag and the “Jewish Bolshevism” canard that Jew Haters have used since the Whites took it up in the Russian Revolution and the NAZ!s picked it up in the ’30’s and ’40’s. Above is one of the NAZ! posters from WWII.

            • tapatio

              Rothschild-Bilderberg Criminal Bankster Cartel’s sponsorship of the Bolshevik-Communist “Revolution”.
              Karl Marx was Jewish, a 3rd cousin of the reigning Rothschild, and both he and Friedrich Engels had connections to the Rothschild banking family. There is a great deal more evidence that the Rothschilds sponsored the Bolshevik “Revolution” and the slaughter of over fifty million Christian (with some Muslim) Russians. There were almost no Jewish victims of this genocide.

              Letters written by Baruch Levy, a close associate of the
              Rothschild family, and by Lev Trotsky/Bronstein…..
              “The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the J6ws will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.
              In this New World Order, the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the J6ws. It will then be possible for the J6wish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state.
              Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which it is said that when the Messianic time is come, the J6ws will have all the property of the whole world in their hands.”

              –Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx (written – 1879), printed in La Revue de Paris, p. 574, June 1, 1928

              “We should turn Russia into a desert populated with white Ni**ers. We will impose upon them such a tyranny that was never dreamt by the most hideous despots of the East. The peculiar trait of that tyranny is that it will be enacted from the left rather than the right and it will be red rather than white in color. Its color will be red literally because we would spill such torrents of blood that they will pale all human losses of the capitalist wars and make (the survivors) shudder.
              THE LARGEST OVERSEAS BANKS WILL COOPERATE WITH US MOST CLOSELY (Rothschild Cartel, which financed the Bolsheviks). If we win the Revolution and squash Russia, on the funeral pyres of its remains we will strengthen thepower of Zionism and become a power the whole world would drop in the face of on its knees. We will show (to the world) what real power means. By way of terror and blood baths we will bring the Russian intelligentsia into a state of total stupor, to idiocy, to the animal state of being…. And so far our young men dressed in leather – the sons of watch repair men from Odessa and Orsha, Gomel and Vinnitza – oh, how beautifully, how brilliantly do they master hatred of everything Russian!
              With what a great delight do they physically destroy the Russian intelligentsia ~ officers, engineers, teachers, priests, generals, agronomists, academicians, writers!”
              ~ Leib Bronstein (also known as Lev TROTSKY)
              Few in the world today are aware that the original leadership of the Bolshevik-Communist “Revolution” was almost entirely Jewish and VERY FEW WERE RUSSIAN.
              *************
              Everything below was taken from Wikipedia and verified through at least one other source………….
              Leaders of the Bolshevik/Communist “Revolution” in Russia. These are the people who fomented this revolution and carried it out. After they had won, they embarked on a slaughter of 30 Million Russians, ALL Christians and a few Muslims. There were no known Jewish
              victims of this genocidal act.
              Leading Bolsheviks…….
              Vladimir Lenin (aka Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov) Russian, Jewish
              Lev Trotsky (aka Bronstein) Jewish
              Lazar M. Kaganovich Jewish (oversaw slaughter of
              30+ million Russian Christians and Muslims)
              Alexander Israel Helphand [aka “Parvus”] Jewish
              (helped Trotsky develop the theory of “permanent revolution.”)
              Avel Enukidze Jewish
              Mikhail Kalinin Jewish
              Nikolai Bukharin Jewish
              Mikhail Tomsky Jewish
              Mikhail Lashevich Jewish
              Lev Kamenev Jewish
              Yevgeni Preobrazhensky uncertain
              Leonid Serebryakov Jewish
              Vladimir Lenin Jewish
              Alexei Rykov Jewish
              Grigori Y. Sokolnikov Jewish
              Grigory Zinoviev [aka Apfelbaum; aka Radomyslsky
              Jewish
              Felix Dzherzhinsky Jewish
              (founder of Cheka/NKVD/KGB/etc)
              Lavrenti Beria Jewish
              (Turned Cheka/NKVD/KGB into a monster. Beria instigated the mass executions of the Katyn massacre)
              Yakov Sverdlov [aka Solomon] Jewish
              (supervised massacre of Czar’s family)
              Sergei M. Kirov Jewish
              (supervised party purges/executions of late 1930s – 20 million dead)
              Yakov Yurovsky Jewish
              (carried out massacre of Czar’s family)
              (other members of the Czar death squad: Goloshchekin, Syromolotov, Safarov, Voikov, Yurovsky……..all Jewish)
              Nikolai Bukharin Jewish
              Ilya Ehrenburg Jewish (Propaganda Minister)

    • James Wherry

      How clever of the liars who make up the Far Left. Do you suppose you’ll get caught, being HYPOCRITES?

      Authors like this one spend all their time TERRIFIED of American Austerity and explain how “nothing can possibly go wrong,” living on a credit card. Then, for Greece, they pee blood, when the results of being a Debt Slave finally take hold.

      Romans 13:8 – for your poor, unwashed heathen – tells us “Owe no man anything, but to love one another.”

      Bottomline: Greek voters SHOULD leave the EU and America should stop borrowing and pay off its debts.

      IF YOU CAN BE BOUGHT, YOU CAN ALSO BE SOLD.

      • dale ruff

        Why should the People pay the debts created by the rich? Greece should refuse to pay debts as odious.

        The way to freedom is to say NO!.

        • James Wherry

          Weren’t the debts created by the democratically-elected officials who the people elected? Don’t let voters off the hook, Dale. They were promised unsupportable benefits and never worked to develop the manufacturing and industry of Germany.

          I don’t hate the Greek people at all! If they must default, that’s what will happen – but there are consequences, and this is why AMERICA should join them. I’m not a fan of “TAPATIO’s” “Rothschild banker” schemes, but I agree we should NOT owe anyone anything so that our politicans DO NOT DO THE WILL OF THE BANKERS, BUT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE!

          • Michael Nevradakis

            Wrong. The people were lied to about those debts. They were sold the “benefits” of being a part of the EU and the Eurozone and living the “European way of life.” Greece never, ever had a welfare state resembling that of the Northern European countries, nor did governments make promises as such. Manufacturing and industry, which existed in Greece through the 80s, were completely decimated by EU policy which opened Greece up to German imports and allowed domestic firms to easily be bought out by EU competitors. Similarly, agriculture was decimated through the EU’s “common agricultural policy” which dictates what Greece can or cannot grow, how much of any crop to grow, where it can or cannot export it, and at what price. That way, domestic food production was decimated, making Greece increasingly reliant on imported food. That’s why now, in Greek supermarkets, you see tomatoes imported from Belgium, pork imported from Holland, and even olive oil and wine from Germany.

            • James Wherry

              Gee, Germany now has a retirement age of 69 or 70. What was the retirement age of Greece in 2008?

              “In 2007 Germany raised its retirement age from 65 to 67 and the German government is now talking about increasing retirement to age 69 for full pension payments to start. On the other hand Greek workers now retire at age 58 with 80% of pension payments and the country’s workers are currently agitating for a lower retirement age.” http://www.forbes.com/sites/walterloeb/2012/06/17/retirement-in-germany-may-rise-to-age-69-while-greece-is-at-age-58/#34912f7c7045

              “In 2011 in Greece, which has been committed to adjusting its retirement age to life expectancy, the average retirement age for men was 62 years and 5 months and 62 years and 4 months for women.

              “By 2030 this will have climbed to 63 years and 1 month for men and 62 years and 9 months for women, although by law the retirement age will have been extended to 68 years. In 2060 the legal age of retirement will be 70 years and 7 months.” – See more at: http://greece.greekreporter.com/2013/12/27/greek-retirement-age-to-hit-68-in-2030/#sthash.wjrYCR42.dpuf

              • Michael Nevradakis

                Yes, the entire crisis in Greece happened because the average retirement age was 62, in a country where most people who are that age began working at age 16 and in many cases did not even finish high school. Now that the retirement age in Greece is higher, please tell us, with statistics (even from Forbes, it’s okay) how that has helped the Greek economy and pension system get back on track. Additionally, while you are at it, please look up all of those state and public employees in the United States who, under the old pension plans, were also able to retire at age 50 after 25 or 30 years at work. I’ve known people like that, but it helps to not live in a bubble.

                • James Wherry

                  It’s simple math: either you can afford the benefits you offer, or you cannot.

                  Before you claim that I am the average hypocritical American, understand that I am applying the same standard to my own country. We cannot afford the spending we are doing therefore we should stop. I do not care if it is health education welfare or defense: We must learn to live within our means.

                  There is no point to judging pensions as too high or too low: they are unaffordable. You sound like you are simply complaining about the fact that you have been left with a choice. Pick one. Default on your loans. I do not care. If that is what you must do to survive, then everything will come up roses and red cherry rainbows for Greece.

                  The banks will be punished for failing to be reasonable with Greece. They too must live with consequences. I do not work for the banks.

                  • Michael Nevradakis

                    Greece’s debt as a % of GDP was not much worse than other Eurozone member states like Belgium, until very recently. It only skyrocketed after the “bailouts.” Try again. And yes, I do believe that Greece should “default” (write off) the debt. It is illegal and odious as defined by international law and the people of Greece, in particular, should not be saddled with it. I would say the same thing for Ireland and Spain and other countries in a similar predicament.

                    • James Wherry

                      Yes, so would I. You have to understand who I am: I spent 15 years has a bankruptcy attorney for private individuals. I despise credit card companies and lenders who pray on individuals. Why should I excuse the banks when they prey on countries of people?

                      To be fair I do blame my clients for overspending at times, but there are many circumstances beyond their control. Divorce, sickness, unemployment, to name a few.

                      What we bankruptcy attorneys say is that both parties to alone take risk when they make the loan. Borrowers risk the possibility of default. Guess what? So do banks. It is written into the interest rate that they charge and in my professional opinion, bankers are in a better position to. Assess the true risk of a loan rather than a consumer. Granted, I do expect countries to be a bit more savvy than the average individual consumer.

                      If I default occurs, the banks and other lenders may blame themselves. There are consequences for everyone. The same is true for Spain and Ireland.

                      But I do not agree with you that “everything was just fine,” before the re-structuring deals. Banks land in arm’s-length transactions and do not wish to risk default.

                      If they were unnecessarily attempting to create a fictional crises, then the banks increased their level of risk for no apparent reason. Banks are more reasonable than that, but if you are right and they are not, then “ha ha on them.”

                  • TeeJae

                    Reality does not operate according to your black/white mythical world. Nothing is that simple. Greed, lust for power, and corruption (operating mostly in the shadows) all play major roles in preventing us from “living within our means” because the Power Elite maintains their power and wealth through debt schemes designed to enslave the masses.

          • dale ruff

            Just as the US public supported the criminal war on Iraq, based on believing lies, so the Greek public was lied to, including by the banks who knew they were making loans that could not be paid back (odious loan) and would be back later to take control of the economy and sell public assets needed to generate income!

            If the government lies and the banks lie to the people,the people have no duty to repay an odious loan.

            Greece has been externally controlled for over 75 years. Today, the IMF and Trioika banks control the economy and are selling off revenue producing state assets. The US banking collapse started the Greek crisis; perhaps the US banks should pay back the debt!

            “The banks are even more dangerous than a standing army.” T. Jefferson

          • tapatio

            YOU MEAN LIKE THE CHENEY-BUSH WAR & CORRUPTION DEBTS, CREATED BY THE PERVERSION OF AMERICA’S ELECTORAL SYSTEM BY JEWISH PREDATORS?

            THE GREEK PEOPLE – LIKE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE GULLIBLE AND FELL VICTIM TO PREDATORY LENDERS. USURY IS, AFTER ALL, JUDAISM’S GREATEST INVENTION.

            ONCE THE VAMPIRE PREDATORY CAPITALISTS ARE ROTTING IN THEIR GRAVES – THEN THERE CAN, POSSIBLY, BE HONESTY AND JUSTICE IN THIS WORLD.

            • James Wherry

              No, I support the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. The neo-con “LIBERAL military intervention” and nation building that followed were what cost us money.

              You might do better to point to something FAR, FAR MORE ODIOUS: the bi-partisan sell out of America, when America’s Congress and President voted to purchase “TOXIC DEBT” from the bankers. While AIG and others claim “we paid the loans back,” THEY NEVER BOUGHT THE ‘TOXIC’ DEBTS BACK – and they have NO intention to do so.

              There’s a REASON why they were called “toxic debts.” The loans to banks were merely smokescreens to conceal the REAL theft.

              • tapatio

                ARE YOU SO RETARDED THAT YOU CAN’T COMPREHEND THAT THE BANKSTERS OWN CONGRESS AND THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEY ARE THE SAME HUMAN EXCREMENT THAT SPAWNED ZIONISM AND BOLSHEVISM – NOT FOR “COMMUNAL LIVING” BUT TO DESTROY RUSSIA AND TAKE CONTROL OF IT AND THE MIDDLE EAST – THE SAME REASON THAT THE US MERCENARY PENTAGON IS NOW ROTHSCHILD’S “ENFORCEMENT” THUGS.

                • James Wherry

                  Your “Jewish Bolshevism” myth was exposed and debunked about 12 posts up, on this very thread. It’s vintage Hitler, as is the contradictory effort to pretend that “Finance Capitalism” and “Communism” are the same thing.

                  But you should be PRAISING and APPLAUDING me: my program gets the money out of AIPAC and ANYPAC. No special favors for or against Jews, just no more Big Money anywhere in politics.

                  • tapatio

                    Weenie-breath, do you have the fantasy that squealing “naz!” and posting the url of some Jew propaganda site is “debunking”?

                    • James Wherry

                      No, TAPATIO: I’m just quoting YOU. The Southern Poverty Law Center has identified YOUR CULT as an extremist NAZ! cult. No one else here has vowed to “ERADICATE Judaism” or praised HITLER and the NAZ!s for the Holocaust, or called JUDAISM a “disease,” “cancer,” or “toxic.”

                      Of course, I think that you DO represent ALL that MintPressNews and EVERY SINGLE BDS SUPPORTER HERE really thinks and really wants to happen.

                    • James Wherry

                      Wow. More penis references.

      • Cale

        Yes, all EU countries should leave the EU and go back to the E.E.C.
        And the Greek people? I feel sorry for them. They did not ask for these killer loans, raised taxes and a disastrous austerity afterwards. Leave us alone. Let our countries for what they are and respect that. Europe is great because of its diversity. We do not need a central government in Brussels. EU countries have NEVER been in such a bad economic situation as they are now. I sympathize with the Greece people and I spit on their politicians, even the one who likes to be a playboy biker. Have respect for this wonderful divers people and their culture in Europe. That is why all these tourists from all over the world are visiting our countries. Not because they want to admire our politicians, no. They want to meet Europeans and be part of their rich cultural life during a short visit. How simple can it be?

      • tapatio

        “IF YOU CAN BE BOUGHT, YOU CAN ALSO BE SOLD.”

        AND THAT IS WHAT JUDAISM IS ABOUT – PREDATORY CAPITALIISM

        Below is the Rothschild-Bilderberg Predatory Capitalist Cartel – at the root of the corruption that has taken control of our country, its government, media and commerce. Until that corruption is rooted out and eradicated, America will continue to sicken and, eventually, die.
        These same Rothschilds, that hold controlling interest in the Federal Reserve today, also were patrons of Karl Marx and directed-financed the Bolshevik-Communist “revolution”. That one family name has been connected to more death and horror, over the last 300 years, than ALL other causes combined. The Rothschilds are, of course, Jewish.

        Rothschild Bank
        New Court
        St Swithin’s Lane
        London EC4N 8AL
        United Kingdom

        http://humansarefree.com/2013/11/complete-list-of-banks-ownedcontrolled.html

        (note: The list linked above includes only Central Banks in which the Rothschild/Bilderberg Cartel holds controlling interest. They also hold controlling interest in virtually every major
        commercial and investment bank on Earth)

        Rothschild History
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtiOEpOnqtI

        JFK and the Federal Reserve
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sJzPDOUvZE

        https://ia800308.us.archive.org/30/items/CreatureFromJekyllIslandByG.Edward-G.EdwardGriffin/CreatureFromJekyllIslandByG.Edward-G.EdwardGriffin.pdf

        http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-the-eight-families/25080

        https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/james_madison-moneychangers_banksters_control_of_government_by_controlling_money.jpg

        http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Nathan-Rothschild-and-famed-quote.jpg

        https://firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/why-the-jews-killed-jesus-jesus-jews-lulz-religion-1344086402.jpg?w=590

        http://shakeandwakeradio.com/1963-JFK.jpg

        https://rehmat1.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/rothschildpig1.jpg

        http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/956/598/d36.jpg

        The cartoons in this post are not “racist” because they are accurate caricatures of Jacob Rothschild and the star of david is the icon of Zionism – a political movement. It is also a reality that the vast majority of the leaders of this predatory cartel are from that ONE cult that comprises only 2/10ths of one percent of the world’s population, but provides a large double-digit percentage of the world’s criminals and two-legged predators.

        • James Wherry

          Judaism is a religion with strong overtones of communal existence (communism), socialism (independent businessmen working for themselves), and capitalism. Once again, you seek to pull this thread of a perfectly pleasant conversation about the merits of bail-outs, EU membership and banking reform into your insane NAZ! hatred of Jews.

          Congrats: once again, you’ve proven yourself a NAZ!. Only JEWISH bankers are your target and that to justify your self-proclaimed mission to “ERADICATE Judaism.”

        • James Wherry

          There is nothing to “whine” about, and so I am not whining: you simply vomit your usual Jew Hatred, proving once again you are a NAZ!. You even praise the NAZ!s by name for the murder of 5.7 million Jews in “78. 1936-45: Naz! controlled areas” of Europe as an “act of self-defense by non-Jews.” http://www.mintpressnews.com/israel-honduras-enter-new-blood-soaked-military-alliance-support-state-sponsored-terrorism/219887/

          1. Your “Jewish Bolshevism” canard has long since been disproven. It’s also ridiculous to complain that Judaism is both “capitalist” and “communist.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism. In fact, it was Hitler who tried to compare “Finance Capitalism” to “Bolshevism,” and you are simply parroting your master. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2007/12/wrongfully_accused_jews_and_bo.html. This fraud exposes you as a NAZ!. Again.

          2. You are also parroting your master, Adolph Hitler, when you use the “evil Jewish Banker” excuse to condone the murder of all Jews. Had Jill Stein and her family died in the Holocaust, you would have justified for the same reasons. You are simply quoting your master, Hitler, in his 1939 Reichstag speech, “On the Jewish Question.”

          “For hundreds of years Germany was good enough to receive these elements, although they possessed nothing except infectious political and physical diseases. What they possess today, they have by a very large extent gained at the cost of the less astute German nation by the most reprehensible manipulations.

          “Today we are merely paying this people what it deserves. When the German nation was, thanks to the inflation instigated and carried through by Jews, deprived of the entire savings which it had accumulated in years of honest work, when the rest of the world took away the German nation’s foreign investments, when we were divested of the whole of our colonial possessions, these philanthropic considerations evidently carried little noticeable weight with democratic statesmen.”

          http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/hitjew.html

          Der Sturmer published your same argument in a tract “On the Jewish Question.” http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/jewishquestion.html. No wonder you said that “Hitler was right” about the Jews.

          • tapatio

            EVERY PART OF MY COMMENT CAN BE VERIFIED BY ANYONE WHO CAN READ. PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE TO REFER TO THOSE THINGS THEY CALL “BOOKS” TO VERIFY SOME OF MY COMMENTS – MOST ARE VERIFIABLE ONLINE.

            THERE IS NOTHING “COMMUNISTIC” ABOUT JUDAISM – IT IS ENTIRELY, PREDATORY CAPITALISM IN IT’S PUREST, MOST EVIL FORM. MANY GREATS, FROM VOLTAIRE, TO BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, TO GEORGE BERNARD SHAW AND OTHERS HAVE CALLED JEWS “VAMPIRES” – THEY ARE VAMPIRES THAT FEED ENTIRELY ON HUMANS AND, OCCASIONALLY, ON THEIR OWN.

            THEY EVEN HAVE “FAMILIARS”, CREATURES LIKE jAMES WHERRY, WHO SERVE THEM AS A FAMILIAR SERVES ITS VAMPIRE MASTER.

            • James Wherry

              So your whole “Jewish Bolshevism” canard IS a fake. Your master, Adoph Hitler tried to prove that both Finance Capitalism and Boshevik Communism were “evil Jewish plots.” I see you’re still up to your master’s lies, eh?

              Oh, and now you have the fake quotes by Ben Franklin invented by you NAZ!s in the ’30’s and the quote by Voltaire. Since you agree with Voltaire, I assume you endorse his comments:

              “But that a camel-merchant [Muhammad] should stir up insurrection in his village; that in league with some miserable followers he persuades them that he talks with the angel Gabriel; that he boasts of having been carried to heaven, where he received in part this unintelligible book, each page of which makes common sense shudder; that, to pay homage to this book, he delivers his country to iron and flame; that he cuts the throats of fathers and kidnaps daughters; that he gives to the defeated the choice of his religion or death: this is assuredly nothing any man can excuse, at least if he was not born a Turk, or if superstition has not extinguished all natural light in him.[125]” http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Quotations_on_Islam_from_Notable_Non-Muslims#Voltaire_.28Fran.C3.A7ois-Marie_Arouet.29

              How ’bout some REAL quotes by Thomas Jefferson? (exerpt below)

              Thomas Jefferson[edit]

              Thomas Jefferson (1743 – 1826) was the third President of the United States, and the principal author of the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson was one of the most influential Founding Fathers, known for his promotion of the ideals of republicanism in the United States.

              In reference to the Islamic slave trade of Americans and Europeans by the Barbary states, Jefferson asked Tripoli’s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman, by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. He answered:

              “The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.[119][120]”

              Jefferson later went to war with the Barbary states. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Quotations_on_Islam_from_Notable_Non-Muslims#Thomas_Jefferson

        • James Wherry

          You keep exposing yourself as a NAZ! Jew Hater

    • bobbo christin

      have the greek people lost their minds as well as their ability to stand up to these people[the ruling classes] or will they say enough enough and tell the EUSSR to go f#ck themselves,bring back the drachma and start afresh from a very low base,it will be very tough but no way any worse than the KRAUTS and their friends taking Greece over by stealth.

      • James Wherry

        Wasn’t Syzria voted in to leave the EU? Either the people got cold feet (which I doubt), or Syrzia saw that “There are consequences to every action.”

        This is what you get, when you pander to the people and don’t give them what you promised: your own good conscience. Crowd pleasers make bad politicians. Greece should finally vote someone in to LEAVE.

        • Michael Nevradakis

          SYRIZA was voted in based on promises that it could end austerity and deliver all sorts of promises while keeping Greece *within* the Eurozone and EU. This is one of many things outsiders have consistently refused to understand about SYRIZA and Greece. Nor did SYRIZA see any “consequences” to its promised actions–conversely, they intended very much from the beginning to do exactly what they have done. Not a surprise when SYRIZA’s ranks are made up of ex-MP’s and ministers from the corrupt governing PASOK dynasty while their partners in the coalition government, the “Independent Greeks,” are castaways from the other corrupt governing dynasty, that of New Democracy. This is something else outsiders have consistently not understood about Greece and its current government.

          • James Wherry

            *Sigh* “In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve.” – Churchill.

            How anyone would have believed those promises is beyond me. If you live in Greece, you may not know Chicago politics. I lived in Illinois for 35 years. Politicians bought votes by promising un-supportable retirement plans for police and fire workers (oh, and just by chance, those same packages benefitted the politicians, as well). Does this sound familiar?

            Now, Illinois is bankrupt. I am not gleeful about it: I love my own former State where I grew up, very much, but honesty and hard choices are what makes up good government. American Leftists look at Germany and Sweden and drool all over it – until you tell them that Germany’s new retirement age will be 79 or 80 years old now (FINALLY!), and that they have a “Value Added Tax” which the Left here rails against.

            I am a fan of Edmund Burke and I am sure you know his many, many quotes:

            “When the leaders choose to make themselves bidders at an auction of popularity, their talents, in the construction of the state, will be of no service. They will become flatterers instead of legislators; the instruments, not the guides, of the people.”
            Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/e/edmund_burke.html

            • Michael Nevradakis

              Nothing “unsupportable” was promised, except for the fact that what SYRIZA claimed to want to do would not be possible within the austerity and memorandum agreements imposed on Greece by the EU and IMF, and certainly would not be possible without a domestic currency. Proposing a return of the minimum wage to pre-crisis levels is hardly “unsupportable” as that minimum wage was still one of the lowest in Europe, pre-crisis. Instead of looking up quotes that may not be applicable to the current situation and playing the blame game with the “idiot voters,” how about engaging in some actual, critical thought about what has happened and what is happening in Greece and elsewhere? By the way, the types of governments you would be likely to support (such as the conservative New Democracy party or the “center-left” PASOK…of which SYRIZA is simply a mutation) were the very ones who helped lead Greece to crisis.

              • James Wherry

                I get the impression you think this was not the fault of the Greek people. Non-sense. They were the willing beneficiaries of lavish public pensions and they wiling accepted them. “Eyes Wide Shut” would be the movie version. Or perhaps, “Endless Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.”

                “Politicians used civil services and other public sector agencies to exchange political favors for votes and influence.”
                http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/03/retirement-at-45-and-8-other-simple-reasons-greece-is-imploding-right-now/

                If the politicians bought public favor, THE PUBLIC WILLINGLY SOLD IT TO THEM.

                So long as the American and European Far Left practice this sort of corruption, they will inevitably lie about the reasons for its failure, when it falls apart. Is this what you are doing? Why not take a harsh look at neo-liberalism and its failure to deliver by failing to support industry and business?

                • tapatio

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                  • James Wherry

                    Tapatio

                • Michael Nevradakis

                  There were no “lavish” public pensions except for the few and well-connected. Average pensions in Greece were lower than in most of the rest of the EU and are lower still even now. But aren’t stereotypes so much easier to use than facts? “Favors” doesn’t mean “lavish pensions.” Have you ever even been to Greece for anything other than a walk up to the Parthenon?

        • tapatio

          JAMES WHERRY IS A “HASBARA” TROLL IN THE EMPLOY OF THE PREDATORY CAPITALIST CABAL THAT HAS RAPED EVERY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD A ONE TIME OR ANOTHER.

          • James Wherry

            Apparently nothing you write is true. That’s strange, TAPATIO. I just called for a Balanced Budget Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to put an arms’ length between banks and the government – something the Greens reject, by the way.

            I also favor over-turning Citizens United through a Constitutional Amendment. NOT the one that SEN Schummer wants! He wants CONGRESS to be given a blank check to regulate campaign finance – and effectively KILL (MURDER) THIRD PARTIES.

            But we can and should do the following:

            1. Stop all “tax deductible” contributions to “political education” committees that give money to candidates. No Constitutional Amendment required, so it’s really just a lack of political will.

            2. Require ALL “PACs and similar odious organizations” to fully disclose their donor lists. In the mean time, do what Justice Kennedy WROTE in Citizens United and direct that all advertisements be required to carry the following disclosure “This ad was paid for by an organization that REFUSES to divulge the names of its donors.”

            3. Reduce campaign contributions to those running for office to about $200 from each citizen, union or corporation. Not one dime more.

            4. Require the aduit of ALL political groups to identify foreign contributors. Not just Republicans or conservatives, like the California AG tried.

            If you fear AIPAC so much, this should solve your fear, but I would go MUCH, MUCH further and require public funding for equal access to open forums such as debates, town hall meetings, etc., to guarantee third party access. And no requirement that “in the previous election, the party must have gotten X% of the vote to quality for public funding. That only helps the ENTRENCHED parties.

          • James Wherry

            I see your point. You know “LIke a Jew.”

            • tapatio

              THE JEWS’ TROLL HAS THE DELUSION THAT SQUEALING “NAZ!” CONSTANTLY WILL MAKE IT SO. IT WON’T.

              JAMES WHERRY IS A “HASBARA” TROLL FOR THE JUDEO-NAZ! STATE AND A S-XUAL PREDATOR OF THE “GAY” CHICKENHAWK VARIETY – HE LIKES YOUNG BOYS. NOT UNUSUAL – HIS ADOPTED CULT-URE PROMOTES HOMOSEXUALITY AND PEDOPHELIA AS LIFE-STYLE CHOICES.

              James Wherry pretends to be gay. He isn’t. He’s a s-x predator that likes BOYS, as evidenced by the barely legal boy he bought from the Philippine slums and “married” in Columbus, GA.
              Fortunately, Wherry is stupid enough to use his real name and had used a traceable photo and proveded the opportunity to show what sort of gutter scum actually represents the oligarchy and the Zionist disease.
              JAMES WHERRY is a “hasbara” troll for the outlaw Jewish state and a GAY CHICKEN-HAWK (men who use boys for s-x) who chooses the youngest possible “legal” boy from a culture where the boy is so desperate to escape the poverty that he will accept ANY humiliation.

              THIS is the sort of filth that makes up Zionism and its ranks of Gentile sycophants.

              Even though Wherry was an officer in the US military, his first loyalty is obviously to Zionism. Zionists follow the Jewish “Chosen” Master-Race delusion promoted in Judaism’s Talmud. Wherry has also bragged about helping train the state terrorists of Uganda.

              Wherry resides, with his boy paramour, Mario, at ……….
              6300 MILGEN RD APT 1403
              COLUMBUS, GA 31907
              (15 minutes from the gate of School of the Americas – the world’s largest death squad and terrorist training facility) should anyone wish to drop by to say, “HI”.

              https://www.facebook.com/james.wherry.39

              http://wrbl.com/2015/06/27/local-reaction-to-scotus-decision/

              http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article29462263.html

              HILARIOUS………..
              “I’m very happy about it,” James Wherry said. “Marriage is the bedrock of our society. I hope that same-sex couples can rejuvenate and revitalize marriage and give it the respect it is due.”

              I don’t really think that Wherry is qualified to “REVITALIZE MARRIAGE AND GIVE IT THE RESPECT IT DESERVES” with his perverted man-boy love predatory relationship

              James Wherry said he and Mario Jay Wherry met through gaymatchmaker.com. James Wherry proposed and flew to the Philippines to hold an engagement party with Mario Jay Wherry and his family. Mario Jay Wherry arrived in the United States at the end of May.

              Wherry and his little paramour at their “wedding”. Being gay is one thing. Sexual use of someone young enough to be his child, and who would do ANYTHING to escape the disgusting poverty and violence of a culture like that in the Philippines, makes Wherry a s-xual predator.

              • James Wherry

                All I am doing is quoting YOU. Are you “afraid” of your own words?

                Here’s the “secret” of what’s really going on: Your master Hitler believed Christianity was a “Jewish Plot,” and so those of you with the NAZ! “Creativity Alliance” Cult don’t spend much time reading the Bible, because it violates one of your “16 Commandments,” to purge out “all Jewish thought.” https://creativityalliance.com/home/16commandments/

                If you did read the Bible, you’d realize what I was up to. What YOU are trying to do does not work. So long as you are hidden, people can just pretend you’re just another critic of Israel and they “filter” or over-look all of your blatant JEW HATRED comments. But once it is exposed, you can’t hide behind your trash dumpster.

                Your problem is that I “CHEAT” by following the Word of God – not your NAZ! propaganda.

                John 3:19

                “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.”

                In the end, a filthy piece of NAZ! trash like you cannot win because I have the REAL Word of God on my side – not your “Mein Kampf.”

                • tapatio

                  Of course you “have God on your side”. Did it ever occur to you that God has never said that he loves………

                  1) Gay chickenhawks who buy Filipino boys for their s-xual pleasure?

                  2) Members of “Civil Affairs” – the part of the US Army that insures that people are too terrified to disobey the “exceptional” Americans? LIKE YOU BRAGGED ABOUT HELPING TO TRAIN THE STATE TERRORISTS OF UGANDA.

                  3) Lick-spittle minions of the Zionist DISEASE, whose job it is to spread the lies and hate of that malignant cancer that is slowly destroying humanity?

                  YOU ARE ALL OF THE ABOVE, WHERRY AND I THINK THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO PROJECT SATAN AS GOD.

              • James Wherry

                TAPATIO, your post is proof you are a NAZ!. I married another adult gay man, but your gay hatred on this thread proves you are a neo-NAZ! as does your Jew Hatred.

                The Southern Poverty Law Center exposed your people as members of extremist hate groups and they track you. It is what you BELIEVE, SAY and DO that gets you caught.

                • tapatio

                  Of course, little Mario is an “adult”. Filipino friends have told me that most any document can be obtained (saying whatever is wanted) in the Philippines for UNDER

              • James Wherry

                NOTE that TAPATIO is angry that Jews promote HOMOSEXUALITY as a life-style choice. I married an adult and HE thinks that’s pedophilia. Is THAT the “Community Standard” of this website? TAPATIO’s post proves he’s a typical “Latent Homosexual” who is ashamed of how he feels. His other posts show he IS a pedophile. He claims he’s 70 years old, but he’s old enough to be my father. Here he is, asking about my “Junk.”

              • James Wherry

                OH, I FORGOT: THIS IS A SPECIAL DAY FOR TAPATIO.

                September 14, 1936: Start of the NAZ! Congress of 100,000 TAPATIO’s. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/today-in-history-september-14/ss-AAiPlVR?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=LENOVODHP15#image=5