Details On An Alleged US-Backed Coup In Venezuela Come To Light

Failing to bring down Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revolution and Hugo Chavez, the U.S. is now allegedly orchestrating coups in the South American country and imposing sanctions in response to what it says are violations of human rights.
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    Venezuela An opposition demonstrator prepares to throw a molotov cocktail at police after clashes broke out at a protest in Caracas, Venezuela, Thursday, Feb. 12, 2015.

    RABAT, Malta — Having tried, and failed, to hamper Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revolution during Hugo Chavez’s presidency, the United States has intensified its attempts to permanently disrupt the socialist process now headed by Nicolas Maduro.

    Funding Venezuela’s opposition and oligarchy — the same tactic the U.S. used to bring down Salvador Allende’s socialist government in Chile — prompted a strong statement from Maduro earlier this month: “As President, I will not permit that Venezuela suffers as Chile did in 1973.”

    On Feb. 12, Venezuela’s Telesur reported that the government had thwarted a coup plot involving both civilians and members of the military. As the plot became public knowledge, Venezuelan Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino Lopez issued a series of tweets pledging the Bolivarian National Armed Forces’ (FANB) loyalty to Maduro and the Bolivarian Revolution.


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    Translation: “The FANB remain resolute in their democratic beliefs and reject coup schemes that threaten the peace of the republic.”

    Translation: “The FANB reaffirms its unconditional support to our Commander in Chief @NicolasMaduro and stands alongside the people of Venezuela in their struggle.”

    Since the riots against Maduro’s government started on Feb. 12, 2014, the U.S. has taken great pains to portray the socialist government as infringing upon human rights and attempting to strangle the Venezuelan opposition’s allegedly peaceful protests.

    While Maduro has accused Vice President Joe Biden of attempting to instigate the coup, Biden’s office issued a diplomatic response reiterating allegations of human rights violations perpetrated by Maduro’s government: “President Maduro’s accusations are patently false and are clearly part of an effort to distract from the concerning situation in Venezuela, which includes repeated violations of freedom of speech, assembly, and due process.”

     

    Sanctions

    People line up outside the Dia a Dia supermarket to try to beat shortages on items like coffee, cooking oil, precooked corn flour, sugar, milk, toilet paper, disposable diapers, detergent and fabric softener, among other items.

    A key point of U.S. interference was a sanctions bills targeting government leaders who were allegedly involved in oppressing the opposition.

    The allegedly “peaceful opposition” was responsible for blocking main roads and communities, preventing trucks from reaching the barrios with needed supplies. Chavista activists were threatened and in some cases shot by the opposition for cleaning up the streets after the violent protest. Additionally, opposition supporters have attacked journalists and employed various forms of psychological and physical violence against civilians and personnel, including 162 attacks on Cuban doctors in Venezuela.

    The Venezuela Defense of Human Rights and Civil Society Act of 2014 was passed by the U.S. Senate on Dec. 8. Rhetoric employed throughout the bill reflects U.S. hegemony and interference — particularly its reference to working “with the Organization of American States (OAS) and the European Union (EU) to ensure the peaceful resolution of the situation in Venezuela and the cessation of violence against anti-government protesters.” It also calls for supporting “the development of democratic political processes and independent civil society in Venezuela,” yet blatantly ignores the existence of both frameworks in the country.

    The sanctions clearly target “any person, including a current or former government of Venezuela official or a person acting on behalf of such government” who has allegedly participated in various forms of violence, including the restriction of freedom of expression of the opposition.

    The notion of sanctions against government officials had been rejected by the Venezuelan Group of the Latin American Parliament, which deemed such action “a violation of sovereignty.” The group’s president, Angel Rodriguez, insisted that sanctions constituted a false campaign to discredit Maduro and insinuate that the Venezuelan government is violating its citizens’ human rights. The U.S., according to Rodriguez, is seeking to destabilize Venezuela “and retain control over what once it considered its own back yard.”

     

    “A dead end”

    Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro holds up a small copy on the constitution during a meeting with leaders of the opposition at Miraflores presidential palace in Caracas, Venezuela, Thursday, April 10, 2014.

    As reported by Telesur, Venezuelan President of the National Assembly Diosdado Cabello asserted that Venezuelan government authorities identified “a list of individuals from the United States Embassy in Caracas who provided visas to individuals involved in the attempt.” The visas would provide those involved in planning the coup with political asylum in case the coup failed.

    Expanding upon U.S. involvement in the planned coup, Maduro declared that the Venezuelan opposition, including “the four-time losing candidate,” Henrique Capriles Radonski, had knowledge of the plans.

    The coup was to take place on Feb. 12. According to Telesur, the transition program in which opposition leaders Leopoldo Lopez, Maria Corina Machado and Antonio Ledezma were involved, outlined plans that included “the privatization of oil, deregulation of the economy and agreements with the International Monetary Fund.”

    Privatizing Venezuelan oil would have been a direct threat to Hugo Chavez’s Petrocaribe program, established in 2005. The agreement, initially signed by 14 Caribbean countries, allows its members to purchase oil at low interest rates. Nineteen countries now benefit from the agreement — members pay 60 percent of the purchase price up-front and the remaining 40 percent over a period of 25 years.

    Under this agreement, countries have the option of providing services rather than issuing payments. One example would be the agreement between Cuba and Venezuela: In return for oil, Cuba offers health and education services to the country, thus providing Venezuela with needed medical staff and training for doctors. Medical access in Venezuela prior to Chavez’s Bolivarian Revolution was a privilege for reserved for the elite, but Cuban health care aid in return for oil has facilitated the provision of medical services for the entire population.

    The U.S. has interpreted the anti-government protests and economic crisis as a sign that Chavez’s Petrocaribe program would deteriorate rapidly. During the Caribbean Energy Summit hosted by Biden last month, eliminating dependence on the Venezuelan oil program was a priority, although there was no indication from Maduro that the program would be stopped. On the contrary, Maduro declared Petrocaribe “a guarantee of peace, stability, mutual benefit, shared development and fair commerce shared by the entire Caribbean.”

    On Monday, Maduro stated that he would not abide by U.S. interference and conspiracy in Venezuela. U.S. policy toward Venezuela, he said, “is directed by irresponsible imperialist forces that are leading the United States into a dead end.”

    Since 1998, when Chavez became president of Venezuela, the U.S. has supported the Venezuelan oligarchy in attempts to overturn the Bolivarian Revolution, in the same way it aided the Chilean opposition in engineering social turmoil as a prelude to the coup that ended Allende’s presidency. A 2006 cable released by WikiLeaks revealed that a few of the U.S.’s intentions in 2004 were: “1) Strengthening Democratic Institutions, 2) Penetrating Chavez’ Political Base, 3) Dividing Chavismo, 4) Protecting Vital US business, and 5) Isolating Chavez internationally.”

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      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Those damned hoarders! You love the misery they cause, so you can photograph it to smear the country’s democracy.

        • Socialism is Evil

          Shortages only exist in socialist markets. In Canada where there are no price controls or limits on profitability, there is enough food for everyone, including hoarders. In fact, our Canadian supermarkets love hoarders because they make even more money on them! Instead of jailing hoarders like they do in Venezuela, we give hoarders loyalty cards so they can by even more! So much, that our private for profit grocery stores need to hire more workers to service them! Notice Hoarders are VIP customers in Canada, and not criminals as they are Venezuelas.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Sorry, we’re all aware of what your kind is doing to sabotage and slander Venezuela. You are a committed disinformation agent for those anxious to vampirize the people as the corporations and oligarchs did before. Like them, you are a total jerk. Unlike them, you are a puppet.

      • Jason Faulkner

        The only country that will never have a coup is the US . . . because there’s no US embassy there.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Actually, the coup has already happened, when they murdered JFK. They used Oswald as a patsy, then murdered him to keep the blame in place

      • George M S Alejo

        Please kck all ambassador of usa out south america and special those cia and zionist pigs

        • Socialism is Evil

          Venezuela has kicked many US ambassadors out, but it makes no difference. The Venezuelan economic collapse continues as the direct result of the failed Socialist Bolivarian Revolution. Pretty soon, Venezuelans will face starvation because of the self destruction caused by a failed socialist economic model. Socialism will destroy Venezuela, just like it destroyed North Korea, Cambodia, Zimbabwe, Cuba, and Eastern Europe.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            True about kicking the spies and secret agents out. But the war against Venezuela will keep you employed forever. Vampires are never satiated.

            Thanks for the way you yammer about socialism and all these countries and showing up that you know nothing about socialism. You are funny.

      • Cam
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      • sayitplain

        The vast slimy armies of U.S Military, Army, Air Force, CIA, State Department, & their subcontractor Corporate ”NGO” paid lIars, sock puppets, & psychological warfare experts are subsidized with unlimited billions of taxpayers’ dollars to brainwash those very same taxpayers as ordered by U.S.Propaganda Czar, Cass Sunstein by donning fake ”regular guy” disguises to, as he ordered:-”cognitively infiltrate the internet” to peddle exactly the kind of CIA disinfo peddled by the sock-puppet below. Add to that, the oceans of Lies peddled by the CIA-infested 6 Mega Corporate Media that control all MSM Media, with their global reach in the international English language, & which interlock & are owned by the Wall Street Banksters, the War Profiteers & Fortune 100 transnational Imperialist Corporations that profit from destroying independent governments like Venezuela across the World, & then any honest person realizes that virtually all derogatory claims against countries like Venezuela in that CIA-Corporate-controlled Media & internet are the same type pack of lies, now massively intensified, that the scum ”elite” have concocted to con the rubes to support the TRULY EVIL global U.S wars, crimes & genocides for over a century. Search variations of;- ”’Propaganda Czar Cass Sunstein Cognitively Infitlrates Sock-Puppets Into Internet”’ ,”’Air Force Internet Sock Puppets”’ See;- ”’The Foiling of a U.S. Coup Plot in Venezuela- Gloria La Riva”’ , ”’U,S. Aggression Against Venezuela, fact not fiction”’ by Eva Golinger

        • Socialism is Evil

          say what you want, but your average Venezuelan is now suffering because of the evils of Socialism. The situation has become more dire since this article was published http://blog.panampost.com/editor/2015/04/07/will-venezuela-make-it-to-2019/

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            No, they are suffering from the onslaught of the American capitalists and the Venezuelan traitor oligarchs who want to sink their teeth deep into the people.

      • Socialism is Evil

        Exactly what kind of healthcare you think your maid is getting? Let alone the healthcare of other Venezuelans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB3KtO953i4

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Just another lie by an anti-democratic disinformation spewer. The Venezuelan people have been getting much better health care than they ever got from your vampires.

          • Socialism is Evil

            Here is an article by one of Venezuela’s largest newspapers (once private, but subsequently taken over by a government insider) showing the state of Venezuela’s healthcare situation http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/141004/doctors-forced-to-play-it-by-ear

            But for you, this is just another millions of “lies” by everyday Venezuelans. In your eyes, The only “true” story is the one spewed from your mouth. No wonder all dictators are socialists.

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              If you were my only source, I would be an idiot. You keep sending me propaganda pieces from oligarch-U.S. conspiracy to destroy Venezuelan democracy, like they did democracy in Guatemala, Honduras, Chile, and Brazil (incomplete list).

              ” No wonder all dictators are socialists.” – the way you keep insisting on demonstrating yourself a brain-washed imbecile is amusing.

          • Piotr

            Vampires? Are you sure you don’t work for Havana?

            Venezuelan healthcare is in shambles. Diseases that had been eradicated, such as dengue fever and malaria, have been making a comeback. Doctors and nurses are overworked and underpaid; public hospitals and clinics are filled beyond capacity and lacking in supplies and medicine; some have problems with water and electricity as well as crumbling infrastructure; and the Cuban “doctors” in the barrios are barely able to do much more than prescribe cold medicine and bandages. Some healthcare system.

            PS: If the Venezuelan public healthcare system is so good, why was Chavez treated in Cuba?

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              Heh, another CIA disinformation agent. All I have to do is examine the behavior of the oligarchs, who did nothing for the health of the people, which the Chavista governments have been working to remedy. This even get help from Cuba. This pisses you saurian mentality off, doesn’t it?

              Why are the oligarchs and their vampire U.S allies unable to win an open election? And have to resort to all this trickery and villainy to gain the power the people clearly don’t want?

              • Piotr

                Nothing? It was the previous governments, whom you appear to strangely label “oligarchs”, who eradicated those diseases, built the hospitals the chavista government is letting crumble, and created the barrio medical dispensaries which “Barrio Adentro” seem to be modeled on.

                It’s been 15 years; how many more before the chavistas look inward to find fault in their ineffectual/harmful policies?

                PS: So? No response for “If the Venezuelan public healthcare system is so good, why was Chavez treated in Cuba”?

                PSS: Is anyone who contradicts your worldview “CIA”?

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  Heh, you’ve just shown how little you understand about Venezuela and Latin America in general. The Latin ruling elites never work for the improvement of that people, only for the stuffing of their own pockets and the subjugation of the people to the operation of their greed. You want to claim otherwise? Then you want to blame the good people working hard to right all those years of dedicated abuse. That’s weird.

                  I never claimed that the Venezuelan healthcare was better than the Cuba. Why would I? (That was your idea again to put words in my mouth to give yourself something to attack.) After all, the Venezuelans have been free of your beloved vampires for only 16 years, while the Cubans have been free of them for 56 years. Moreover, the Cubans didn’t let the vampires stay around to phukk things up the way they are doing now in Venezuela.

                  Anyone who intentionally talks arrogantly and stupidly about the abundance of evidence of CIA evil manipulations must be either an ally or genuinely stupid? Do you know how many democracies and progressive governments CIA and its allies have overthrown? Go ahead, name just a few of the many in Latin America. Don’t play stupid now.

                  • Piotr

                    It seems easy for you to generalize about 30 different countries and their supposed “Latin elites”. It can easily be proven that time and time again different governments in the region throughout the decades have worked for the “improvement of the people”, ie the whole populace. Even dictators have done this. Past Venezuelan governments in particular did those healthcare related things I described. They also built schools and colleges (Venezuelan public universities had [and still have] some of the lowest tuition rates in the world). They expanded infrastructure, providing jobs and development. They funded the arts. They negotiated trade treaties. They allowed or encouraged private enterprise. Some of them developed welfare and social security systems. Are you saying this was all for their personal enrichment?

                    I never claimed you claimed it was better. What I’m saying is that after 14 years in power, Chávez did not even believe in the ability (or safety) of Venezuelan hospitals, the very hospitals his government had been mismanaging, to be treated for his disease. Why would that be?

                    Also, if Cuban healthcare is so good, why was Fidel routinely operated by Spanish surgeons? And if it’s not better than Spain’s, then why not make it more like that country?
                    Also, what amazing medical science breakthroughs has the Cuban government made, especially compared to the US, Japan and other such countries?

                    I haven’t been speaking arrogantly (or stupidly); just responding to your comments. Socialist and communist countries are not democracies; not really. In Latin America, once in power, such governments have tried to quash and persecute all political opposition and to perpetuate themselves in power, subordinating, undermining or outright destroying the very institutions that enabled their election. And, most of the time, they’ve also run their economies into the ground. The CIA did what they thought was appropriate at the time, since they understandably didn’t want any more Soviet-funded governments (like Cuba) around the world, and especially not so close to the US. The US-backed dictatorial governments in Latin America also persecuted their opponents, but at least they didn’t wreck their economies.

                    I prefer a free country with civil liberties where human rights are respected. Socialist and communist governments are almost always neither (especially the latter). So if you make me choose between an economically incompetent authoritarian government and a an equally authoritarian but competent one, I’ll choose the competent one every time (while pushing for liberties and civil rights).

                    Therefore, the CIA has overthrown/backed overthrows/helped overthrow ZERO democratic governments.

                    • TecumsehUnfaced

                      You go to the best doctor in the specialty you require that you can afford. All the rest you’ve done is simply spin.

                      Yeah, you love to mix up a goo and withdraw portions to color as you will. You make vast and silly generalizations that only an ideologue would make. You think it’s okay to overthrow any popularly elected government. You simply re-define them as not being democratic. Your last sentence is the raving of an ignorant madman. What about Chile, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Iran, and Brazil? Do some studying. Learn to use Wikipedia and the search machines, so you will become informed enough to avoid embarrassing yourself with such arrant imbecilities.

                      Even if the country is ruled by a dictator of mixed qualities, what right do the American vampires have to go in and destroy their social structures, like in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria. You have a love affair with arrogant war criminals. You don’t give a bleep about civil liberties.

                      • Piotr

                        “You go to the best doctor in the specialty you require that you can afford. All the rest you’ve done is simply spin.”

                        Laughable. So you admit that Cuba’s healthcare is not the best in the world? That Fidel didn’t trust it yet advocated it around the world as such? And made no effort to make it actually become the best in fifty years? If it wasn’t the best (or even close), why the heck would Venezuela try to be like Cuba?

                        I think it’s ok to undermine or influence dictatorships in a different direction, especially socialist and communist ones. That much is true.

                        Chile, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Iran, Brazil. None of those were democracies. They were, arguably, before their dictators established themselves and undermined the pre-existing institutions. Chile (under Allende) and Guatemala (under Árbenz) in particular were assisted/supported by the Soviet Union. The CIA’s involvement had more to do with realpolitik than anything else. It should be obvious to you. Also, by the way, it’s spelled “errant”, not “arrant”.

                        “Even if the country is ruled by a dictator of mixed qualities, what
                        right do the American vampires have to go in and destroy their social
                        structures, like in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria. You have a love
                        affair with arrogant war criminals. You don’t give a bleep about civil
                        liberties.”

                        Afghanistan harbored terrorists that directly attacked the US. Iraq was more of a mistake, though it will depend on who you ask. Libya? Dictatorship. Syria? Dictatorship. None of those countries cared about civil liberties. It is you who does not care about them, and who has a love affair with arrogant war criminals such as Qaddafi, the Taliban and Fidel Castro (who, by the way, actually sent a clandestine force to invade Venezuela in the 60s).

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Of course. clear English is laughable to an ideologue with poor reading capacity. I made no silly admission like you claim. Different top experts work in what ever country they happen to be set up with their staffs. Are you really too dense to understand that?

                          Thank for admitting that your true adherence is international thuggery. You think your beloved capitalist vampires have a right to conjure up any reason they wish for destroying another country’s government and substituting a vicious military dictatorship. Ha, ha, you actually claim you love freedom! Ha, ha, you admit that you are a militaristic sickie. No wonder you keep pushing the CIA lies!

                          Ha, ha, you admit Chile was a democracy, but horrors! it was supported by Russia, which justifies inducing a gang of merciless killers to overthrow the freely elected government and murder thousands of people. And you claim you love freedom? Ha, ha! What kind of freedom? The freedom of thugs to destroy and kill with impunity? You have admitted yourself to be a militaristic clown, the kind that would be comfortable killing from within the Waffen SS.

                          I note that you’ve ignored Brazil. What’s your excuse for that atrocity? Joao Goulart was a little left-wing, who just might go Socialist?

                          You are no lover of freedom and democracy.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          By the way your attempt to correct my spelling was hilarious. What you really did was show again that you don’t understand English. You don’t realize that imbecilities are by nature “errant”. Yours are utter and complete, which is why I used “arrant”, such as in your arrant arrogance of belief that other people have no rights, if the vampires of the Empire decide “it’s in their interest” to suck the blood of others.

                        • Piotr

                          Again, more vitriolic, arrant language from you.

                          I’ve never said other people have no rights. Everyone has rights- something authoritarian governments (such as Chávez’s) neither recognize nor accept. Socialist governments in particular abhor property rights, the basis for a healthy economy. Their continued disrespect and violation of them is one reason I dislike socialism.

                          And no, countries have no inherent right to invade others or effect regime change just to take over their resources.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          After insulting my awareness with a series of lies, You have the gall to complain about being rejected and laughed at. Then you attack a recently elected democracy with more lies and imbecilities. You know nothing about socialism or Venezuela or the social structure, bu that doesn’t keep you from defecating your inexhaustible load of calumny on the poor country under assault from with and out by lying vampires like yourself.

                          Then you finish up with another lie, after working so hard to justify American assaults on other country. You have chicken soup for brains.

                        • Piotr

                          You are not aware of everything; in fact, you seem barely aware of anything at all. The fact that you barely seem to know political, economic and Venezuelan history speaks wonders.

                          I’m not complaining about being rejected and laughed at; I couldn’t care less what your opinion of me is. I’m pointing out your use of violent language, which indicates a somewhat authoritarian psychology.

                          I know a great deal more than you about Venezuela and its social structure. If I were an obtuse nationalist, I might even be tempted to say “Yankee go home”; but I’m not.

                          Sincerely,

                          A Venezuelan

                          PS: You seem to have trouble distinguishing between moral justifications and plain explanations. They are not exactly the same. I’ve been explaining the US’s actions in Latin America, not qualifying them morally. Do you not see the difference?

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Of course, I’m not aware of everything, you silly dope. But I am aware that you are a liar who adjusts his position to his wind.

                          You call yourself a Venezuelan? Who cares? Leopoldo Lopez calls himself a Venezuelan, and he’s a greedy, power mad oligarch. Even his CIA handlers in Venezuela think he’s one sick bunny, he he’s doing just what they want him to do, trying to overthrow the government that beat him and his oligarchs in the recent election. You hate that, don’t you?

                        • Piotr

                          For someone “denouncing” others for interfering in countries other than their own, the irony of you, a foreigner, trying to harangue and lecture me, a native, about Venezuela seems lost on you.

                          Adjusting my position to the wind? I would advise you to step out of your assumptions and actually read what I’ve written. You will find it coherent.

                          Leopoldo López? Though I’m not a fan of him, he is Venezuelan; he was born in Venezuela, his family is Venezuelan, he has lived much of his life in Venezuela. Just like Chávez. Just like anyone else in that position. Anyone born in Venezuela, who has lived in Venezuela is Venezuelan. To argue otherwise seems silly.

                          I would be interested in knowing more about these “CIA handlers” you speak of; it would make for some enlightening reading. And specifics would be great (you can write privately).

                          You should care that I’m a Venezuelan because it will inform your appreciation of my viewpoint.

                          PS: I didn’t support these last two protests, by the way. At first, I thought they were a waste of time; then I thought they were tragic.

                          PPS: Recent election? Leopoldo López did not run, mainly because he was forbidden to do so at the eleventh hour by the government.

                          PPS: An oligarch, by some definitions, is a member of a “ruling clique”. That would make
                          kleptomaniac government figures like Cabello, Maduro and the members of the Chávez family oligarchs, not López (who is a political prisoner in solitary confinement).

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          So because you claim yourself a native of Venezuela, I’m supposed to become submissive to your Libertarian greed and denial of reality?

                          See? You dump out again a devious manipulation of what everybody else considers to be oligarch, the ruling socio-economic class. You sound like a have a lot to hide. Why don’t you share some it with us? How do you feel about sharing oil wealth with the common people?

                        • Piotr

                          I never asked you (nor have I ever asked anyone, nor will I ever) to “submit” to me or what you called a “Libertarian greed and denial of reality”. What the fact of my nationality should do is give greater weight to my word and experience in matters pertaining to my native country (as opposed to the word and experience of someone who is not from my native country). I think most people would see it that way.

                          Again, the “ruling socio-economic class”, ie the oligarchs as per your definition, is the kleptomaniac government clique. Chávez is the one who started calling his political opponents “oligarchs”, regardless of whether they were wealthy or were actually in government or not. I remember the campaign slogans; he introduced the word to public discourse. It was only after he came to power that Chávez’s opponents were routinely labeled as “oligarchs”, regardless of who they were, even as he and his close allies enriched themselves on the state coffers. In truth, and ironically, the only oligarchs are the ones in government.

                          “You sound like a have a lot to hide. Why don’t you share some it with us? ”

                          So, because I say things that you find anathema and for which you have no concrete response, I sound like I have a lot to hide? Why don’t you share something, since you’re so open?

                          “How do you feel about sharing oil wealth with the common people?”

                          You seem to think that a country’s economy is the government turning on the oil faucet and distributing money all around. That’s not my point of view. Venezuela should have established a Norway-style trust fund for oil revenues instead of financing unsustainable “social programs” that go nowhere and cannot stand without oil. If you want social programs, you should also have a vibrant, diversified free market economy that can provide a more stable source of government revenues while providing employment and opportunities for capital and personal growth, and enables everyone access to the bounteous array of goods and services that is the hallmark of a market economy. If a government severely restricts the economy, it will bring stagnation and widespread shortages which eventually lead to misery and possibly starvation, even with “social programs”; once that happens, the populace becomes dependent on the substandard “government programs” for survival, since the severe restrictions and disincentives mean they can no longer procure anything by themselves (and, conveniently for the government, keeps them virtually enslaved).

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          I’m sorry, I’ve given you concrete answers to your unreal hypotheses, and you persist in treating like an idiot that doesn’t know that every country has a ruling of super rich oligarchs that has been extracting the wealth of the country to the misery of their less powerful countrymen. Latin America is no exception, and a particularly egregious example. Right there, you destroy your credibility.

                          Your Libertarian spew is just an excuse for the freedom of the powerful to continue their merciless extraction. No wonder I get nonsense from you about the magic of the free market. Even Adam Smith saw through that bull bleep two and a half centuries ago. He was afraid of the invisible hand of the market and the powerful unscrupulously manipulating, the invisible hand that you cherish because manipulation and extraction is precisely what you’re after.

                          After all, you have unwittingly exposed yourself as a member of that power elite, that oligarchy, that is angry at the Chavistas for forcing them to share at the feast. Of course, you deny the heavily reported sabotage and coup attempts of the people of Venezuela and their democratically elected government. You are one of the ones working to subvert it.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Of course. clear English is laughable to an ideologue with poor reading capacity. I made no silly admission like you claim. Different top experts work in what ever country they happen to be set up with their staffs. Are you really too dense to understand that?

                          Thank you for admitting that your true adherence is international thuggery. You think your beloved capitalist vampires have a right to conjure up any reason they wish for destroying another country’s government and substituting a vicious military dictatorship. Ha, ha, you actually claim you love freedom! Ha, ha, you admit that you are a militaristic sickie. No wonder you keep pushing the CIA lies!

                          Ha, ha, you admit Chile was a democracy, but horrors! it was supported by Russia, which justifies inducing a gang of merciless killers to overthrow the freely elected government and murder thousands of people. And you claim you love freedom? Ha, ha! What kind of freedom? The freedom of thugs to destroy and kill with impunity? You have admitted yourself to be a militaristic clown, the kind that would be comfortable killing from within the Waffen SS.

                          I note that you’ve ignored Brazil. What’s your excuse for that atrocity? Joao Goulart was a little left-wing, who just might go Socialist? (After typing this, I noted that you had insert Chile and Brazil into your list above. Why? Because you don’t think that free elections are part of the operation of a democracy? Support by the Soviet Union or some other power somehow undoes the democracy characteristic of a government by all other measures is democratic? You’re just another imperialist thugg, with “exceptional” rights to destroy other countries, especially if you can find traitor oligarchs to run a subservient dictatorship for you.)

                          You are no lover of freedom and democracy.

                        • Piotr

                          I wouldn’t care where Fidel Castro gets operated IF he wasn’t trying to market Cuba’s healthcare as the best in the world (while putting down that of the US and Europe). Since not even he believes what he says, that makes him a hypocrite. And the Cuban healthcare system ultimately unworthy of emulation.

                          I can see why you misconstrued my sentence. What I mean by “I think it’s ok to undermine or influence dictatorships in a different direction, especially socialist and communist ones. That much is true.”, I mean individually and internally (within the same country, by its citizens), not by foreign countries. In no sense am I a militarist; unlike Chávez, a military person who launched an actual coup, I prefer civilian government.

                          Also, when I mentioned dictators in Chile and Guatemala, I was referring to Allende and Árbenz- dictators both. Both countries were arguably democracies before either of them came along.

                          Moreover, a government is not “freely elected” when its candidates/officials are financed and propped up by a foreign country (the Soviet Union, the US…). That is called undue influence. What the US did was attempt to counter Soviet influence. That was their motivation; realpolitik. I am not qualifying it as right or wrong. I find it laughable that you supposedly denounce “imperialism” but have no problem with Soviet “imperial” behavior.

                          I find that people with the most violent language, such as yourself, are the ones who like militaristic dictators; you seem unable to cope with differences of opinion, and can’t seem to go one sentence without slinging attempted insults, slurs and offensive language. By that token, I might imagine you to be a supporter of Pol Pot, Stalin and Fidel Castro- mass murderers all.

                          Regarding Brazil…I’m not sure that what happened made sense, even from a realpolitik standpoint (then again, the LBJ administration was far from the brightest…). From what I can gather, Goulart seemed to be heading on a semi socialistic path, but there seemed to be no real reason for overthrow; moreover, the military government that followed was unjustifiable.

                          Elections are not free when the government controls (and uses) the media and the means to bribe/bully people into supporting them while quashing opposition parties. And, again, candidates/officials financed and propped up by a foreign country is called undue influence.

                          “You’re just another imperialist thugg, with “exceptional” rights to
                          destroy other countries, especially if you can find traitor oligarchs to
                          run a subservient dictatorship for you.)”

                          Again, I find it laughable that you denounce “imperialism” only from your enemies, not your friends. That’s called hypocrisy. No, no one has a right to destroy, invade or try to bully another country (unless that country has tried to do the same to them); but countries can/probably should be open to criticism, internally or externally. And no government has a right to oppress its own people.

                          “You are no lover of freedom and democracy.”

                          I love freedom; am slightly indifferent about democracy.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Ha, ha, you are such a liar, and a lover of capitalist vampires sucking the blood out of people. That’s why you hate Cuba and Venezuela, they won’t cooperate with the sick nonsense that absorbs you. That’s why you call the popularly heads of democracies that won’t feed their people to your beloved vampires. You are so shallow you don’t recognize how obvious your mendacity is.

                          Ha, ha, the only freedom you love is the freedom of vampires to suck other people’s blood. That’s why you are indifferent to democracy, unless it can be perverted to control of the ones getting their blood extracted.

                          Ha, ha, ha, liar you even claims that CIA is pulling one of its many coup attempt again in Venezuela.

                        • Piotr

                          It’s easy to call people liar and names – much easier than actually refuting them. That seems to be your preferred MO – if you can’t refute the information, you resort to name calling.

                          I hate neither Cuba nor Venezuela, though I harbor an immense dislike for their governments- especially Cuba’s. Both are murderous and oppressive, yet Castro’s has been murderous and oppressive for much longer. What kind of government forces their populace to work for them, takes their property and the entire fruit of their labor, keeps most of what’s left while leaving bare scraps for everyone else and prevents citizens from leaving? Cuba, like East Germany, the USSR, socialist Poland and North Korea among others, is anything but a democracy; their system is what Chávez was trying to bring about in Venezuela, and what Maduro has been attempting.

                          PS: The reason I’m slightly indifferent to democracy is because many democratic countries are dysfunctional failures. Even so, I still prefer dysfunctional democracy to dysfunctional dictatorship (hence the “slightly”).

                          PPS: I love freedom, the freedom for people to make their own choices and accept the consequences, so long as they don’t harm others nor infringe on their freedoms. Socialist governments seek to take most choices away from people; that’s why I dislike them.

                          PPPS: I don’t claim the CIA is pulling a coup attempt. Such an attempt would not make much sense from the US’s perspective, since the country would plunge into chaos.

                          PPPPS: Your increasingly garbled vampire analogies, while inaccurate and senseless, have also become somewhat boring; don’t you have something more original?

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          It’s easy to call you a liar, because you lie repeatedly.

                          What about the murderous capitalist government you so blindly support and its Assassin-In-Chief with his drones murderous thousands of civilians? What about all the invasions and coup d’etat these capitalist fiends have been doing, destroying countries and immiserating many millions of people?

                          Instead of opposing these fiends, you go after the ones resisting them with failed Cold War propaganda demanding regime change. How can any sane, decent person see you as other than sick?

                          You must be a vampire yourself, since you don’t like bloodsucker being called for what they are. You certainly display the values of one.

                        • Piotr

                          “It’s easy to call you a liar, because you lie repeatedly.”

                          What exactly, in your opinion, am I lying about? Everything I’ve said can be confirmed by cursory internet searches.

                          “What about the murderous capitalist government you so blindly support
                          and its Assassin-In-Chief with his drones murderous thousands of
                          civilians? What about all the invasions and coup d’etat these capitalist
                          fiends have been doing, destroying countries and immiserating many
                          millions of people?”

                          Deflect and distract; another part of your MO. You have yet to answer any of my assertions about Venezuela with anything other than vague name calling. I do largely support drones; I think most countries, including Venezuela, would like to have that technology to pursue its attackers.

                          I don’t support the US government uncritically; every country has blemishes on their record. That being said, the US government, with all its faults and ugly history, was largely better than the murderous slave state that was the Soviet Union. Millions more have been immiserated and have died as a consequence of socialist policies than capitalism could ever dream of.

                          “Instead of opposing these fiends, you go after the ones resisting them
                          with failed Cold War propaganda demanding regime change. How can any
                          sane, decent person see you as other than sick?”

                          Again, I’m not advocating “regime change” as you seem to understand it; certainly not by outside forces. I would like the government to change its behavior, not for it to be violently overthrown. That would lead to perhaps decades of instability.

                          I’m a capitalist; there is nothing inherently wrong in making money. Almost everyone wants to make more, to improve themselves and their lot in life. It’s a universal feeling; otherwise, nobody would play the lottery.

                          if you want to think of me as a “vampire” for whatever strange reason you may have, go ahead, be my guest. It’s your right- which is more that can be said for the kind of attitude towards free thought that they have in the Cuban and Venezuelan governments.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          You’re very slippery.

                          So now you’re not for big capitalists draining a country of its wealth with the assistant of a co-operative oligarchy any more? You’re just satisfied with calumniating democratically elected socialist governments as “dictatorships”?

                    • TecumsehUnfaced

                      Here’s a fresh report on the utter mess the fiends of the CIA made of Libya:

                      http://www.thenation.com/article/199233/report-front-libyas-descent-chaos

                      • Socialism is Evil

                        Another one of your favoured sources where you are not allowed to make a comment! Notice that every newspaper source you provide doesn’t allow real people to make comments on its truthfulness? Notice that every newspaper source that I quote allows ordinary people to make real comments so those who live there can tell you like it is? An you claim you represent the everyday people. Shame on you. So far in your lenghtly tirade, you haven’t demonstrated ANY other person other than yourself to takes your side of the story.

                        A trip to Heaven on Hale-Boop anyone? @TecumsehUnfaced will take you there.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          I notice you gather a lot of oligarch yarns and try to pass them off as common people.

                          Haven’t you noticed that except for your litter mate you have gotten nothing but the contempt you deserved from me and everyone else here? Why?

                          Tell us what you know about the oligarchs and the CIA did to Brazil and Chile? Why was the war criminal, Henry Kissinger, so proud of Chile?

                        • Socialism is Evil
                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Doesn’t that make you furious at the oligarch hoarders who are working with USAID and the CIA to destroy Venezuelan democracy? Instead of jailing them like violent rioter, Leopoldo Lopez, I guess you want to execute these traitors, don’t you.

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  Are you reading any of my responses before you go off on your paid rants of ignorance? I answer your questions, and you repond by losing your reading ability. Your station chief needs to hire a new troll. You suck.

      • Chris Herz

        The only thing Maduro has done wrong is not to drive out the remnants of Venezuela’s former oligarchy; force them to Miami to join the ex-gangsters and autocrats of the other Fascist regimes of South America.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          I agree. But I don’t know how keep the U.S. from manufacturing grounds for an invasion from that. They would need a Soviet Union to protect them like Cuba had.

        • Socialism is Evil

          For socialists like you, Maduro’s pursuit is acceptable despite the misery and poverty it imposes on the entire country. No wonder every single famous facist is a self declared socialist (Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Dynasty, Castro). Check out
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1aSjCo8m48

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Again you show yourself too ignorant about that which you propagandize against to be a good disinformation agent. Your shows are too obviously staged and insincere.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Why should we believe CIA babble? That vicious organization specializes in replacing democracies with police states.

      • Socialism is Evil

        This article is a complete disgrace considering it quotes from Telsur, the propaganda arm of the Socialist Bolivarian Revolution. If you check out a real local newspaper in Venezuela such as http://www.ultimasnoticias.com.ve and read the comments from regular Venezuelans, you can see the vast majority of Venezuelans believe its their socialist government that is failing the people. Virtually none of them believe in an American sponsored coup. There are thousands of comments in this online Venezuelan newspaper that mirrors the thoughts of local Venezuelan commentator @Venezolanita below where they know the failure in Venezuela is made solely by the failed policies of the Bolivarian Socialist Revolution. ON the other hand, if you visit the Venezuelan government sponsored Telesur website, all comments are banned. You can’t even make a comment there if you wanted to.

        • Socialism is Evil

          Check out how Venezuelans buy groceries under the Bolivarian Socialist Revolution.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXvTnaqiNyQ

          Check out how my fellow Canadians buy groceries under a capitalist system with no price control

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dojr1GwlO0s

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Then you agree the hoarding oligarchs should be shot for immiserating the people this way and trying to destroy their democracy.

            • Socialism is Evil

              See how much food there is in my Canadian capitalist supermarket? There is more than enough food for everyone including hoarders. In fact, they LOVE hoarders because our capitalist supermarkets gets to sell EVEN MORE food to them and make MORE PROFIT. Shortages is never a problem in a capitalist market, only in a socailist market. Instead of shooting the hoarders, we capitalists give them a customer loyalty card so they can buy even more!

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Hey, maybe you punks could do the same thing to Canada that you’re doing to Venezuela. Or do you prefer doing it Harper’s way by destroying the environment and the living of the First Nations?

                Thank you for a wonderful display of the sick mendacity by which the enemies of the people work.

                • Piotr

                  It seems a little silly to claim that the shelves of largely socialistic countries are better stocked than those of largely free market ones. There is ample evidence to prove otherwise; any visit to a US or Colombian supermarket will illustrate. Cuba, once the no. 1 sugar exporter in the world, has been importing sugar for decades; Venezuela, which has the largest known oil reserves in the world, started importing the substance last year (2014). East Germany, the Soviet Union, Socilalist Poland….all these countries had trouble with supply. Why else would they (and Cuba) all have had a “rationing booklet”?

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    I never claimed that nonsense you made up for me about the stocking of shelves. Could it be that what you absurdly lump as “socialist” are the countries that were being sucked off by the rich vampires you so adore?

                    I love the way you burble about oil and East Germany at the same time. Is that why you expression is so ridiculously oily? Is that why you can’t blame the difficulties encountered by “socialist” countries on the savage economic and subversive war against them rabidly pursued by your beloved vampires?

                    • Piotr

                      I never said you did, though that seems to be what you’re implying. Socialist countries are easy to spot: not only do they label themselves as such (as all these countries I mentioned did- Cuba, Venezuela, Poland and East Germany in their constitutions, the USSR in name and in its constitution), but they make policies that choke/extinguish free enterprise. They appear to see internal free markets/private ownership of companies as evil.

                      Also, socialist countries aren’t “sucked off” by anyone but their own government, since they typically nationalize/expel foreign companies.

                      PS: Your writing seems to become more and more nonsensical. Case in point: “I love the way you burble about oil and East Germany at the same time. Is that why you expression is so ridiculously oily?”? What does this even mean? You appear to be stating nothing other than the fact that I mentioned these topics in the same sentence. Do you deny what I said, that said countries had supply problems?

                      PPS: Is your seemingly blind support for socialism the reason you can’t blame socialist countries’ quasi-unanimous economic failure on their own policies, and feel the need to blame foreign factors and a supposed “economic war”?

                      Seriously, if socialism were so good, it wouldn’t have to be imposed secretly or by force on a populace, as it often is.

                      PPPS: Why is it that capitalist countries overall have little to no supply problems?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        “It seems a little silly to claim that the shelves of largely socialistic
                        countries are better stocked than those of largely free market ones.” You said that, I didn’t.

                        Don’t be silly. All governments are corrupt to some extent, but corruption is what the vampire “capitalist” or wealth seizing oligarch governments is all about. That’s why you love them so much and fight for them so meanly.

                        Where does East Germany come into a discussion about the vampire assault on Venezuela? That seems rather oily of you is something you have to admit yourself.

                        Your attempt to blame Venezuela for the suffering caused by the vampire assault is also rather oily, and defines the tribe to which you adhere, you blind capitalist ideologue, enemy of democracies unsubmissive to vampires.

                        Both Chavez and Maduro came to power by free elections in spite of all the nefarious manipulations of the oligarchs? You hate that, don’t you? That justifies coup attempts and economic war, doesn’t it?

                        Why do vampires find so much blood to feast upon, the vampires with their vast armies and secret agents? Are you really too dim to figure that out without begging for my snickering help?

                        • Piotr

                          Dodging my questions and points. Convenient. You can neither answer nor comment on them without examining/contradicting your own motivations and beliefs, can you?

                          I don’t know whether to take your “meanly” comment as an insult or a form of begrudging respect from you. I certainly sling less insults and answer/pose more questions than you.

                          East Germany comes into the discussion because it, like Venezuela, was a self-declared socialist country with rampant supply problems and shortages. There’s nothing “oily” (whatever that means in your head) about that.

                          I blame the Venezuelan government for the suffering caused by themselves. It alone has caused this madness. At best, its officials are just naive; at worst, they’re willing plunderers of the state’s coffers. Meanwhile, while the country burns to the ground, boliburgeses and government figures go do their shopping in Miami, send their kids to private schools abroad and drink scotch by the cartload (did you know, by the way, that at the time of his death, Chávez had purchased 17 mansions all over Venezuela?). So much for there not being an “oligarchy”.

                          Also, I may be a capitalist, but I’m not blind. I can see the beneficial effects of free markets all over history. This computer (and the one you’re writing on) is one of them; you’d have to be blind to history (or a socialist/communist government’s shill) to support socialism/communism (since you benefit from their largesse).

                          As for democracy, I’m neither a friend nor an enemy. I stand for free markets, human rights and civil liberties and against oppression. I don’t care if the government was elected so long as there are these guarantees and a balance of powers (though elections are generally a good things).

                          Though Chávez was freely elected in the beginning, his government supporters came to control both the electoral body and the media, and to use the state’s power to bribe/bully the electorate into voting for him and his supporters (see Lista Tascón, for example). All of which virtually guaranteed subsequent elections would be decided for Chávez. Even so, Maduro only won by a very slim margin (less than 1%; some victory), which goes to show how “unanimous” his support was.

                          “Why do vampires find so much blood to feast upon, the vampires with
                          their vast armies and secret agents? Are you really too dim to figure
                          that out without begging for my snickering help?”

                          I’m not sure this statement of yours qualifies as anything other than rambling. Ramble and snicker you do, since you seem incapable of offering any cogent, non-dodgy response. Moreover, I’m sure these supposed “capitalist vampires” you speak of would have already succeeded changing things in Venezuela if they had actually tried. Think about it: they have supposedly made billions (by supposedly plundering countries) and have supposedly no morals, whereas the Venezuelan government has LOST billions, has actually plundered the country, and actually has no morals. Who do you think would win?

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Not my fault is that you dodge reality. Again you spew out your dreams of nonsense with no documentation to relieve their absurdity.

                          You’re still dodging the reality of Brazil and Chile. Don’t you know where those countries? do you believe that they are colonies of East Germany?

                          Didn’t you know that the CIA recruited heavily from the Nazis and the Stasi? Birds of a feather flock together. Dodge that.

                          I’m not sure that anything you ramble out qualifies as other than obfuscation and confusion. Again, tell us what happened in Brazil and Chile, you artful dodger. Explain why we should want happening to Venezuela that same thing that happened to those other countries. Is it a love of oligarchs and military dictatorships? Your idea of freedom?

                        • Socialism is Evil

                          Here is some new reality for you to digest where it has been discovered that Maduro and his socialist government is one of the biggest stashers of secret funds abroad:
                          http://www.ibtimes.com/hsbc-leaks-venezuela-had-third-largest-amount-money-stored-swiss-banks-report-says-1811706

                          Shouldn’t come as a surprise, considering the Venezuelan government is ranked 161 out of 175 internationally on the government corruption index (the lower the number the least corrupt).

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Oh my goodness, these guys could be corrupt as those ruling Britain, Canada, and America. Now we’ve got as good a reason for overthrowing the bankster-owned thugs ruling these governments and looting their countries as we do Venezuela. Let’s get busy. When you plan to overthrow Harper, the obviously well-paid pawn of oil men destroying the men?

                          Do you understand that this “government corruption index” this really the Corruption Perceptions Index? Note that it has a very strong correlation with Black Market activity, exactly one of the devices that the Venezuelan oligarch and their American allies are using to destabilize the government, the government that badly beat offer their corruption in the recent election.

                          Thank you for pointing out another manifestation of the oligarch-U.S. war against democracy. What’s important is not democracy, or free elections, but the subservience of the people to the traitor oligarchs subservient to the U.S., right?

                          Please note also that as a measure of other than Black Market activity, that two of the most corrupt countries in the world (U.S, e.g bankster bailout; Britain, e.g. the London Whale) are highly rated by the Corruptions Perceptions scale.

                          Hence, you demonstrated that the really bad ones are the best experts in the hiding of corruption. They’ve had so much practice at it. You’re right, these vampire governments, including Canada, need to be overthrown.

                          I will expect mountains of work from you on this, since it’s so important to you.

                        • Socialism is Evil

                          Venezuela is now world’s most miserable country, but in your eyes, that means it must be the best place to live! Note that no one in this video blames the US, but they ALL BLAME the Bolivarian Socialist Revolution! Hop on a plane to your Socailist Paradise in the Sun. Maduro is waiting for you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1aSjCo8m48

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Look next door to Colombia and at Honduras, and muse upon what a brain-washed idiot you are. Note that your propaganda cannot be played in this country. That was intentional, wasn’t it? You don’t want me pointing out reality of your foolery like I did before.

                          “Venezuela is now world’s most miserable country” that establishes your insane love of lying. Unless of course, you would rather be living in one of the hellish holes produced by the sick vampires you so admire. Okay, which one do you prefer: Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen?

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          I’m being kind to you, and presenting one of the many references that you can use to avoid humiliating yourself in the future:

                          http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/26/us-aggression-against-venezuela/

                          Please don’t stop here. Use a search machine. I recommend DuckDuckGo, since they claim not to trace you. You wouldn’t want that, would you?

                        • Socialism is Evil

                          Again, referring to a source where you can’t make a comment. Typical socialist websites as they don’t really support freedom of speach. Why don’t you try a more mainstream media like http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21645193-authoritarian-regime-becoming-naked-dictatorship-region-must-react-slow-motion People are free to post comments there and most support the USA, not Mad-doo-row who?

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Why are you compelled to show your ignorance any particular place? You’ve done a very good job of that here.

                          Why do you feel the need for corporate media? Because it’s better for telling you how to think?

                          Don’t you ever explore for understanding? Or are you satisfied with your official line of brain-washed pap, the only stuff you’ve shoveled out so far. Why are you here where people make fun of corporate dildos?

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Here’s a reference that will give you some understanding of the vampires that you support inflicting Venezuela with. Do you really want that litany of horror taking control of that control like it devastated so many others? You will also gather some understanding why so many knowledgeable people are so hostile toward you:

                          http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41117.htm

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Did you read the whole article and note the man responsible for 85% of now resides in the U.S.A., a place made for him to enjoy his corruption? Could be another part of the American assault on Venezuelan democracy. Thanks for pointing this out.

                        • Piotr

                          Can’t answer any of my questions, huh? Everything I’ve stated is easily confirmed with internet searches as well as history. You seem to believe there was nothing in Venezuela before Chávez, when in fact history proves otherwise. Venezuela was one of Latin America’s most vibrant economies in the 60s and 70s, for example.

                          What reality am I dodging about Brazil and Chile? Besides, it seems – again- a little silly for you to accuse me of dodging issues/questions when it is you who has conveniently been dodging mine. You realize that, don’t you?

                          I could care less about the CIA. They are an arm of the US government, acting in their perceived interests. There’s nothing inherently unusual about that. What I’ve been stating is why they did what they did in Latin America.

                          Again, I’m not sure what you’re trying to say about Brazil or Chile. Generally speaking, I don’t condone coups, civil wars or overthrows. I understand why they happen, which is different. I think it’s better for the government to change its behavior internally, having found reasons for doing so, and to tend towards greater openness, freer markets and greater freedoms. What I do believe, wholeheartedly, is that socialism should fade away like the failed ideology it is, and that Venezuela should abandon it in favor of more freer markets. If freer markets is what you mean by “the same thing that happened to those other countries”, then I think the reasons should be obvious: because socialism doesn’t work, and all it does is generate misery while creating an oppressive government that enslaves everyone else. Life under most free market dictatorships is also oppressive, but at least not miserable (except for political enemies).

                          Again, I don’t care if it’s a cabal of technocrats, a king or a democratically-elected president … as long as the government is competent, believes in a free economy and respects human rights and guarantees, it doesn’t matter to me who is in power, though I naturally prefer peaceful, harmonious transitions.

                          By the way, the only “oligarchs” in Venezuela are Maduro and those tied to the government.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          I’ve answered everything that can be answered.

                          Your imbecilities are endless and sink of their own weight.

                          You lie all the time and claim you don’t even know an oligarch is.

                          You hate democracy and prefer dictatorships by capitalist stooges.

                          Now you may lie again, sneer at history, for my amusement.

                          Please, I usually have to pay for clowns like you.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Note that Maduro won an open election two years ago that Jimmy Carter pronounced fair and clean, in spite of the oligarch controlled media. Heh, heh, the people weren’t fooled by the fanged clowns.

                        • Piotr

                          The only “oligarchy” controlling the Venezuelan media is the Venezuelan government, who quashes or attempts to quash any who think differently from them.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          You are in front for the prize of the stupidity of the week. Only the dunce who calls himself, “Socialism is Evil”, is close, but then that’s your other avatar, right?

                        • Piotr

                          It is easy to insult when you have nothing else to say. Moreover, it is your stupidity which is self-evident: even by your own definition (that all countries are supposedly ruled by an oligarchy), the Venezuelan government is an “oligarchy”.

                          PS: I can confirm all that “Socialism is Evil” has posted. And no, it’s someone else.

                          PPS: You native language is Spanish, isn’t it?

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          It’s much easier to insult when someone purpose twists truth in the most laughably absurd ways. I’ve said plenty that was accurate and true. Not my fault that you’re a Libertarian with a RWA score so high you are deaf to anything derived from reality.

                          Tell me again how noble the violent insurrectionist against democracy, Leopoldo Perez, is. Tell me about his posturing liar of a first cousin, the notorious Thor Halvorssen, which the Swedish government frantically ignores, Tell me horrible it is that someone promoting street riots and a coup d’etat is being restrained. Tell me about how having a family obscenely rich over many generations does not make Perez the tradition Latin oligarch, but that somehow Maduro is. That was hilarious! You have just enough grasp of English, politics, and economics to twist them into total nonsense.

                          Off course you can confirm everything that Dildo against Socialism said. You both came out the same sphincter.

                          Your native language is bullshit, isn’t it? The same as for Leopoldo and Thor, right?

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Telsur is a lot more reliable than the ever duplicitous CIA and NED, or their crackpot troll, “Socialism is Evil”, ever the lie of the vampire class.

          • Socialism is Evil

            Try making a comment on Telsur as an individual. You can’t, because they don’t want readership feedback. Check out other independent newspaper websites like El Universal and Ultimasnoticias and you are free to make any comments you want. Which one is being more democratic?

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              Heh, it infuriates you when you can’t spew the reactionary propaganda you worked so hard to fabricate.

              • Socialism is Evil

                Spoken like a true Chavista! In your false democracy, only Chavistas are allowed to make comments. Check out the same logic Maduro uses to justify censoring an opposition news channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlWlGaBJtDk

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  Spoken like a true stupido! An imbecile who believes that being informed and thinking for oneself instead of the imbecile’s absurd, shallow posturing, means that one is a Chavista.

                  But I do think it’s unusually thoughtful of you to associate Chavista with brains and knowledge.

                  As I noted before, you’re free to make a jackass out of yourself any time. AlterNet needs a new comment clown.

      • Kuni Leml

        Oligarchs, regardless of what country they infest, are nothing more than economic terrorists and should be treated accordingly.

        Venezuela should round their Oligarchs up and execute them all as a message to future wanna-be economic terrorists. Sell their properties & business to individuals who have no problems providing goods and services for a reasonable profit.

        • Socialism is Evil

          You remind me of socialist Pol Pot! That’s exactly what he did when there was a shortage of food in Cambodia in the 1970s. He even opened up an extermination camp called S-21 and KILLED all the business owners. He took over their businesses, but unfortunately starvation ensued.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBqOXf8cMGw

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Pol Pot got into business because a pair of American war criminals overthrew the legitimate government and invade. Thanks for telling us what you have planned for Venezuela.

            • Socialism is Evil

              LIke you, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Kim Yong Dynasty, and Castro are all ardent socialists.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                More yammer. Only lying idiots like you were call them “socialists.” You don’t even know what socialism is, you’re just a brain-washed capitalist stooge. Do you pray to banksters?

                • Socialism is Evil

                  You can call them whatever you want, but every one of these facists are self proclaimed SOCAILISTS!

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    You can call them whatever you want, but every one of these facists are self proclaimed SOCAILISTS!

                    You can’t even spell it right.

                    But then you don’t need to, since you’re aiming for other stupid people, who have never watched the working of a U.S. installed dictatorship, the kind of “government” you love.

          • Kuni Leml

            You forgot to mention that Adam, The father of Capitalism, Smith also reminds you of Pol Pot.

            To quote Adam, The father of Capitalism, Smith:

            A power to dispose of estates forever is manifestly absurd. The earth and the fullness of it belongs to every generation, and the preceding one can have no right to bind it up from posterity. Such extension of property is quite unnatural.

            It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.

            We no longer live in a Capitalistic economy; we are closer to Feudalism thanks to the 30+ years of Reagan/Ayn Rand economic policies.

            Until the top marginal rate returns to around 90%, the middle class and shared prosperity will continue their journey to the trash heap of history.

            What you call Socialism is in fact Capitalism. The system of Socialism has NO private property. (Communism is nothing more than Socialism taken over, and corrupted, by Conservatives. Where the wealth generated by those who do the work is redistributed upwards to a small minority while the majority slave away for peanuts.)

        • Socialism is Evil

          You remind me of socialist Pol Pot! That’s exactly what he did when there was a shortage of food in Cambodia in the 1970s. He even opened up an extermination camp called S-21 and KILLED all the business owners. He took over their businesses, but unfortunately starvation ensued.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBqOXf8cMGw

        • Socialism is Evil

          You remind me of socialist Pol Pot! That’s exactly what he did when there was a shortage of food in Cambodia in the 1970s. He even opened up an extermination camp called S-21 and KILLED all the business owners. He took over their businesses, but unfortunately starvation ensued.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBqOXf8cMGw

        • Socialism is Evil

          I guess to you, beating up Oligarch is better than the current situation where the Bolivarian Socailist Revolution just beats up ordinary folks

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMqlW9L1Ee4

        • Socialism is Evil

          I guess to you, beating up Oligarch is better than the current situation where the Bolivarian Socailist Revolution just beats up ordinary folks

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMqlW9L1Ee4

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Looks like something out of Chile, during the Pinochet years.

          • Kuni Leml

            If those alleged ordinary folk support the ruling Oligarchs, then they are nothing less than enemy combatants engaging in combat operations.

            In America for example, those who vote Republican are no less complicit than the enablers that the 9-11 hijack pilots brought along to help them gain control of the planes in order to commit their acts of terrorism.

            • Socialism is Evil

              Sounds like you fully support socialist Pol Pot’s execution of the ruling and upper classes despite the rest of the world calling it genocide. He even executed the poor who bought food from private businesses to feed their families as he deemed that as supporting the Oligarchs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-SI8RF6wDE

        • Socialism is Evil

          I guess to you, beating up Oligarch is better than the current situation where the Bolivarian Socailist Revolution just beats up ordinary folks

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMqlW9L1Ee4

      • Venezolanita

        The more I read new articles like this the more I’m astounded by the idiocy of the american public. I’m venezuelan I was born there and lived most of my life there. I have family still living there. I know the reality of many venezuelans. The long lines to buy basic necessities like toilet paper and soap. It is humiliating to live like this, where to buy diapers for your baby you have to show the birth certificate at the store and both parents have to be present and named on the certificate. Just to buy 1 pack of diapers. That is the reality of venezuela. No where in this article is that reality presented at all. Instead it posts all the claims the members of the government, the same political party who have ruled Venezuela since 1998. Chavez for 15 years and maduro for 2 years.

        There is no democracy in venezuela. How can there be a democracy when the party in control of the government controls all judiciary and legislative branches. Now they are rounding up leaders of the opposition and putting the in jail on trumped up charges of conspiracy. Note that nowhere in the article was there evidence of the claims made by Maduro and his cabinet. None. No names of the conspirators, no details on the coup attempt. Nothing just plain allegations. I know the US has been involved in coups in the past that is not evidence that is occurring today. The problems facing venezuela today are entirely the results of 15 years of failed policy, of over reliance of one natural resource at the expense of every other export product we used to have.

        Venezuela is broke, and failing apart and the people who are suffering are not those that are in power. They have embezzled money for years and built their fortunes out of the ruin of my beloved country. All those humble chavistas are now living in the best neighborhoods in the country, with chofers and maids. They regularly travel to the US that they hate so much. Chavistas are the new oligarchs and the people who are suffering now are the same poor people who were suffering before plus all the middle class who has been brought into poverty after a decade plus of Chavismo. That is the reality of venezuela, and this is is biased and misguided journalism.

        • Socialism is Evil

          Thanks for sharing what actually happens in Venezuela so the world knows of those evil socialists including this ignorant author who glosses over the real suffering by ordinary Venezuelans. Many wonderful and kind Venezuelans have migrated to my country Canada and have shared their personal experiences with us on how the Socialist Bolivarian Revolution (and not the USA) has destroyed their beautiful homeland. Here is one video of a recent Venezuelan immigrant who now lives in Canada. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nxHgjv97Jk

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Heh, the NED strikes again. You thugs working to destroy a government working for the people will stop at nothing. Your oligarchs want control!

            • Socialism is Evil

              Me? I am just an ordinary Canadian who spew my beliefs. The real thugs are the armed motocycle Collectivos, sponsors by the Socialist Venezuelan government to keep control of its people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzBlPlbheck

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Liar. You by your activity here have admitted yourself an unprincipled disinformation agent for the oligarchs. Go back to Canada (if that’s really where you came from) and leave this people far better than you alone. Go back to Canada and redeem yourself fighting the evil capitalist corruption of environment destroyer, Steven Harper.

                • Socialism is Evil

                  Your Anger doesn’t just bring me smiles, but also to the millions of Venezuelans who now live in dire poverty and oppression and will soon face starvation because of socialists like you who push your bancrupt ideologies onto them. Notice that all top free countries in the world are all CAPITALIST countries and all the least free countries (meaning oppressed) are all socialist countries (seehttp://www.heritage.org/index/…. Venezuela is ranked 178 most free, or the fourth from the bottom just slightly ahead of North Korea. In my great country of Canada (which adopts capitalism), we are ranked 6th.

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    Heh, silly liar says he wants to rescue the people from the sick afflictions that issue from his greed freaks.

                    You confusion is legitimate. You actually believe we have freedom when ruled by vampire oligarchs. You are the good little indoctrinee that never grew up.

                    There’s a place in Chicago, Homan Square, where you will be very happy enjoying freedom under capitalism. Also, how about Guantanamo?

                    Who cares what right wing befogger fabricates what statistics. Die yourself blach and go walking in Ferguson, Missouri.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Heh, the NED strikes again. You thugs working to destroy a government working for the people will stop at nothing. Your oligarchs want control!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Heh, the NED strikes again. You thugs working to destroy a government working for the people will stop at nothing. Your oligarchs want control!

        • Socialism is Evil

          Thanks for sharing what actually happens in Venezuela so the world knows of those evil socialists including this ignorant author who glosses over the real suffering by ordinary Venezuelans. Many wonderful and kind Venezuelans have migrated to my country Canada and have shared their personal experiences with us on how the Socialist Bolivarian Revolution (and not the USA) has destroyed their beautiful homeland. Here is one video of a recent Venezuelan immigrant who now lives in Canada. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nxHgjv97Jk

        • Socialism is Evil

          Thanks for sharing what actually happens in Venezuela so the world knows of those evil socialists including this ignorant author who glosses over the real suffering by ordinary Venezuelans. Many wonderful and kind Venezuelans have migrated to my country Canada and have shared their personal experiences with us on how the Socialist Bolivarian Revolution (and not the USA) has destroyed their beautiful homeland. Here is one video of a recent Venezuelan immigrant who now lives in Canada. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nxHgjv97Jk

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          You are describing Colombia, the playground of the vampire oligarch, heavily supported by U.S. money to keep the precious vampires free.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        The more history I accumulate, the more ashamed I grow at the horrible activities my American government participates in no matter how I vote. I sympathize with the feelings of a decent Jewish person born in Israel finding out what really goes on behind the mendacious mask of Zionist mythology. No wonder the U.S. and Israel are allies, they both have no regard for the value of people, only for how they may be deceived and exploited.

        • Socialism is Evil

          You obviously never been to Venezuela before because most of the population rebels against their government, not the USA. Here is a typical street protest in Venezuela AGAINST the government. This happens far more than care to know where government sponsored Collectivos thugs come out in their motocycles to attack the innocent civilians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdF8CMjwFvk

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You work for the CIA, NED, and the oligarchs, right? Screw the people! The oligarchs get the power and the money, eh?

            This looks like the just like the “protests” the corporate rapists and oligarchs engineered with U.S help in Iran back in 1953. Why should we believe you anymore than the other fanged, mendacious clowns? Because you can also organize thugs?

        • Socialism is Evil

          You obviously never been to Venezuela before because most of the population rebels against their government, not the USA. Here is a typical street protest in Venezuela AGAINST the government. This happens far more than care to know where government sponsored Collectivos thugs come out in their motocycles to attack the innocent civilians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdF8CMjwFvk

        • Socialism is Evil

          You obviously never been to Venezuela before because most of the population rebels against their government, not the USA. Here is a typical street protest in Venezuela AGAINST the government. This happens far more than care to know where government sponsored Collectivos thugs come out in their motocycles to attack the innocent civilians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdF8CMjwFvk

        • Socialism is Evil

          The evils of Socialism needs to be exposed. The vast majority of Venezuelan news media shows the brutality of the Venezuelan Socialist government, and yet you believe this author who only comments from the government sponsored Telesur propaganda source. All you have to do is GOOGLE Venezuela and you can see ordinary Venezuelans suffe under the brutality of the Bolivarian Socialist Revolution. Here is another video for you to see what really goes on in Venezuela.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftEve4OD1YY

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Then we will compare those “evils” to the much more vast evils of the corruption you which to replace our democracies. Capitalism is not only utterly evil but by its effects of the great majority of people and utter failure. We laugh at you, clown.

            • Socialism is Evil

              Notice that the most free countries in the world are all CAPITALIST countries and all the least free countries (meaning oppressed) are all socialist countries (see http://www.heritage.org/index/…. Venezuela is ranked 178 most free, or the fourth from the bottom just slightly ahead of North Korea. In my great country of Canada which adopts capitalism, we are ranked 6th. Go figure.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                They aren’t free. They are controlled. That’s why all the major media are owned by the ruling elite and serve the propaganda of the Empire and its manipulator. People like you who think you’re free are the most deeply enslaved of all.

                • Socialism is Evil

                  Oh yes, I forgot in your eyes North Korea is the most free country, and then Venezuela. You read the list upside down.

                  • BamaBubba

                    I’m glad you’re arguing with him, because he’s just making me sick. Those people don’t have aspirin or toilet paper, but of course it’s the big bad USA to blame. People like that make me sick.

                    Good luck with him.

                    • TecumsehUnfaced

                      How can I possibly sicken a brain-washed reactionary and militaristic bigot like yourself?

                      If you want to develop a brain that can contain other than propaganda pap, you might start with War is a Racket by Smedley Butler, a four-star Medal of Honor winner that you know nothing about.

                      • BamaBubba

                        2 star, you shit-for-brains commie.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          A major general! Caught ya! You just admitted that you know about all these invasive military adventures in Latin America and denied them. Ha, ha, you BamaBubbas are just too stupid to acknowledge that wars a racket, and too mendacious to admit that it’s common practice.

                          Thanks for blowing your credibility out of the water, you flaming bigot.

                          Feel free to exhibit yourself some more.

                        • BamaBubba

                          Duh yup, ya’ll jus’ too smart fer the likes ‘o me, pard. But say – olds medley wrote that book a long time ago – 75 years or so. We’re talking just a little more recent, aren’t we?

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          How did you ever figure that out? I didn’t know that you read beyond comic books.Do you know of any nasty foreign adventures since Butler? There’s a lot! Can you count them?

          • Alan Fernandes
        • Socialism is Evil

          The evils of Socialism needs to be exposed. The vast majority of Venezuelan news media shows the brutality of the Venezuelan Socialist government, and yet you believe this author who only comments from the government sponsored Telesur propaganda source. All you have to do is GOOGLE Venezuela and you can see ordinary Venezuelans suffe under the brutality of the Bolivarian Socialist Revolution. Here is another video for you to see what really goes on in Venezuela.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftEve4OD1YY

        • Socialism is Evil

          The evils of Socialism needs to be exposed. The vast majority of Venezuelan news media shows the brutality of the Venezuelan Socialist government, and yet you believe this author who only comments from the government sponsored Telesur propaganda source. All you have to do is GOOGLE Venezuela and you can see ordinary Venezuelans suffe under the brutality of the Bolivarian Socialist Revolution. Here is another video for you to see what really goes on in Venezuela.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftEve4OD1YY

        • Socialism is Evil

          Check out what happens when you get sick in Venezuela, and you will realize it has nothing to do with the USA, but only to do with the bancrupt socialist ideologies of the Bolivarian Revolution:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB3KtO953i4

        • Socialism is Evil

          Check out what happens when you get sick in Venezuela, and you will realize it has nothing to do with the USA, but only to do with the bancrupt socialist ideologies of the Bolivarian Revolution:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB3KtO953i4

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            You wasted a lot of CIA and oligarch money on silly propaganda that noton will believe. We know how U.S. approved police states operate in Latin America. Shame on you for promoting another one by overthrow of democracy. YOU are the one that’s evil.

            • Socialism is Evil

              I know its hard for you to acknowledge the vast majority of Venezuelans absolutely hates Chavez/Maduro for the economic collapse that they have caused. I suggest you get on a plane to Caracas and talk to the locals there to realize that the CIA doesn’t need to pay anyone to expose the evils of the Bolivarian Revolution. However, when you land in Caracas, be prepared to stay a long time. There are no more regular flights out of Venezuela because the government ran out of money to to pay back the airlines.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Easy, eh? Just comes out of the mendacity CIA handbook. For your type, truth has never been a necessity, only a pain-in-the-neck for clowns like you to obscure. That is why you are here, to hide the truth which you obviously hate.

              • LostInUnderland

                If the majority of Venezuelans hate Chavez/Maduro, why did they vote for them?

                • Socialism is Evil

                  Recent polls put Maduro’s popularity at 20% and falling. He also won by a barely and highly contested majority in 2013. In consideration he revoked the radio and TV licenses to many opposition broadcasters, buys supporters through government subsidies, and rules by decree, even this level of support is questionable. Maduro knows he will loose the next election, and therefore creates a false US Booggieman to blame his failure.

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    By those polls the war against democracy in Venezuela that you, the U.S secret services, and the Venezuelan oligarchy seems to be having some effect. Do you think that it will make the Venezuelan people want to submit themselves again to the vampires of the aristocracy and the U.S.? Many of the people remember what those vampires were like. Do you have any approval polls of the people concerning the vampires? Remember, your vampires just lost their second coup attempt against the freely elected Chavista governments.

                    • Socialism is Evil

                      There we go again, blaming a non-existent US boggieman for the self destruction of Venezuela. For every bad news that comes out of Venezuela (and there are many), your only conclusion is the invisible US boggieman. Venezuelans are sick and tired of this empty tirade that they have experienced for the last 16 years. Even your buddies at Amnesty International has enough of the criminal Maduro goverment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddc7fLeDXoo

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        The U.S. “boggieman” is only invisible to ignoramuses like you. Have you ever investigated the NED part of it?

                        “Criminal Maduro government?” This from a clown incognizant of the vast killing, spying, torturing, and economic sabotage of the U.S. and its Canadian puppet, the viley corrupt Stephen Harper. Ha, ha, hee, hoo! You are funny!

                      • Alan Fernandes

                        well these are assassins, how many have they killed? of course the police should use force against this gang https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPupnrMPbk4

                  • luceChange

                    That’s an awful lot of accusations without providing ANY verifiable FACTS.

                    • Socialism is Evil

                      All you have to do is Google the information.

                      Here is one (of many) news report showing Maduro’s popularity has plummetted to 20%:

                      http://www.voanews.com/content/venezuela-maduro-approval-rating-lowest-point/2583540.html

                      Here is another (of many) news report showing Maduro barely won the election in 2013 where the opposition wanted a recount. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/apr/15/nicolas-maduro-wins-venezuelan-election

                      These accusations are easily verifyable on Google as its common media coverage in Venezuela and worldwide.

                      • Brian Bixby

                        Voice Of America News? Really? The organization that was open.y founded with the purpose of spreading US propaganda for the State Department? That’s your authority? Good grief.

                        • Socialism is Evil

                          The source of the poll is Datanalisis Venezuela, which is the most respected pollster in their country. This 20% popularity number is widely commented in Venezuela news papers and clearly reflected on their public comment boards if you bother reading them (see list of Venezuelan newspapers below that publish the same result as Voice of America). But of course you rather impose your socialist views on Venezuelans even though vast majority has rejected Maduro and his socialist revolution.

                          http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/150102/director-de-datanalisis-revela-que-popularidad-de-maduro-cae-a-22
                          http://www.diariolasamericas.com/4848_venezuela/2864703_maduro-comienza-ano-solo-con-22-aprobacion.html
                          http://www.noticierodigital.com/2015/01/datanalisis-popularidad-de-maduro-descendio-a-22/
                          http://www.noticierodigital.com/2015/01/datanalisis-popularidad-de-maduro-descendio-a-22/
                          http://www.press-report.co.ve/clanek-36766527-popularidad-de-maduro-cae-a-22-segun-encuesta-de-datanalisis
                          http://www.el-nacional.com/alexander_cambero/ano-caida_0_553144859.html

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Took you a long time to round up the propaganda sites funded by oligarch money and outside reactionaries. To our chuckling delight you keep defining yourself.

                          Did you look up how many more hits there are searching information in favofr of the Chavistas? Nah! That would scuttle your lying campaign.

                        • Socialism is Evil

                          If there are so many Chavista hits, explain why you can’t even post ONE on this blog? You should listen to yourself babble nonsense with no proof whatsoever while I have provided dozens of links and references.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          By what you’ve produced, you only want fabricated right wing propaganda and can appreciate only that. I gave you one good reference to help you operate with other than delusion, and rejected it because it didn’t take comments. Your only reason to wish for references is to spew your sickness on them.

                          Everyone’s fortunate that you’re too stupid to find informative articles that take comments on your own. You have no interest in self-education, only in propagating carefully crafted lies.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Just to show that you don’t care about self-education, I’ll pass you another no-comment article to learn from:

                          http://www.thenation.com/blog/199681/what-happening-venezuela

                          Are you going to whine about not being able to dump your propaganda on it? Or are you going to be polite and say thank you.

                        • Socialism is Evil

                          The ability for the general public to make comments on an article is extraordinarly important because it allows locals, especially those who experienced what the author is talking about, to verify the article’s accuracy and authenticity. The fact that none of your 2 referenced articles allow public comments show their source of the information is unreliable and most likely, propaganda. Afterall, both your sources come from no-name extreme leftist websites with very few readership whereas my sources are all mainstream media outlets (government and private) that allow public comments to verify their reporting accuracies.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Yeah, yeah, I thought you were too much of a dildo to say thank you politely for an informational article. Instead, you yammer about not being able to spew you propaganda in a particular place.

                          Why should you worry about reporting inaccuracies, you pour right-wing propaganda antagonistic to reporting accuracy every place you can? Don’t be such a hypocrite. Write a letter to the editor if you see reporting errors.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        So, again you claim that losing an election after spending big oligarch money and failing justifies an coup d’etat, whi establishes you again as an enemy of democracy.

          • Alan Fernandes

            how is public health system in the us? For what i know, they don´t even have it… over 44 million americans without health insurance an 38 million more with insufficient coverage. So i see it is still much better in venezuela
            _

            • Socialism is Evil

              So in your socialist eyes, nobody getting healthcare in America (as in the case of Venezuela) is far better than only 220M Americans getting healthcare. In your distorted logic, all Americans should die of curable diseases because a few cannot afford treatment.

        • Socialism is Evil

          Check out what happens when you get sick in Venezuela, and you will realize it has nothing to do with the USA, but only to do with the bancrupt socialist ideologies of the Bolivarian Revolution:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB3KtO953i4