All Paris Attackers Identified So Far Are European Nationals, Not Refugees

“It is all EU citizens so far. This can change with the hours, but so far it is quite clear it is an issue of internal domestic security.”
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    All of the attackers from Friday’s massacre in Paris so far have been identified as European Union nationals, according to a top EU official. The announcement further casts doubt on the validity of a Syrian passport found near the bodies of a slain attacker.

    “Let me underline, the profile of the terrorists so far identified tells us this is an internal threat,” Federica Mogherini, the High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy/Vice-President of the European Commission, said after a meeting with EU foreign ministers. “It is all EU citizens so far. This can change with the hours, but so far it is quite clear it is an issue of internal domestic security.”

    The majority of attackers were identified as French or Belgian nationals. An Egyptian passport was also found, but the Egyptian Ambassador to France said it belonged to a critically wounded victim and not a perpetrator. The Syrian passport caused a ruckus, with some politicians in Europe and the U.S. calling for a halt to Syrian refugee resettlement. An increasing number of state governors are trying to defund the settlement program. American officials told CBS News that the passport might be fake, while British-daily the Independent reported that a man was arrested in Serbia while carrying a Syrian passport with matching details to the one found in Paris.



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    • kid_you_not

      No, they were all non-Whites and thus not European. Nice try.

      • Mabelle Vonk

        You have never been in Paris, you don’t know anything.

        • DerpDerpDerp

          And you’ve never been to sarcasticville, evidently.

          • Michael Puffer

            I’ve played Sacrastiball, have you?

          • Mabelle Vonk

            Didn’t mean to be “sarcasticville”, whatever it means.

    • Daryl Sawyer

      The people talking about the fact that the attackers identified thus far are Muslims despite their legal nationality are missing the point. It has been suggested that the attack was the result of letting in refugees. If none of the attackers turn out to be refugees, this disproves it… and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if very, very few of the attackers are refugees.

      The refugees come to these countries fleeing atrocious conditions in their home company. The come looking for a better life. The attackers, on the other hand, likely come from two groups: those who came in to attack their enemies, and those who have been in the country a generation or two, became disillusioned by minority poverty endemic to the West, and thus vulnerable to radicalization. These two groups likely don’t include many refugees.

      It is certainly possible that some terrorists slipped in with the refugees. But even without refugees, these people would find a way in. Very likely, the best potential *allies* in this particular cultural conflict will also come among the refugees: people who have left their countries fleeing sectarian conflict, not wanting their new communities polluted with this cultural poison.

    • Ms D

      um, wow, they were from the region and islamic, travelling to and from Syria where they were trained- it doesn’t matter where they are technically citizens, it does not matter if the papers are real or even if there are any- they cross borders to train in Syria and come back easily with more weapons in the cover of the confusion of mass migrations, they are always from that region culturally, this is splitting hairs to miss the point and fit a false narrative. The problem is coming from there. HENCE THE REFUGEES.

      • Hekmat Alrouh

        Congratulations, you have achieved exactly what Daesh wants, they rely on fear and bigotry to achieve their psychological warfare, malign the world against a helpless group of people (refugees), and create a huge tear in the social fabric in europe. Good job little puppet.

        • Ms D

          no you idiot, admitting this is an islamic and middle eastern based problem is reality, deciding all muslims are to blame is a completely unrelated stupid issue, and not what is happening when you bother to admit there is a risk coming from the region and act on it with intelligence (better and more useful background checks etc) and if you have to lie about facts to feel comfortable because parsing details with nuance is too hard I seriously pity you. Lying about facts to fit a narrative helps nothing, you are spreading ignorance and denial makes people unsafe.

      • DerpDerpDerp

        Ya, they were doing all that while being French nationals.

        Your government has also been openly arming terrorists in Syria. But you know, those refugees are easy targets. I wouldn’t expect you to fight a dragon when there are perfectly good women and children for you to battle.

        It’s the American way, after all. You bombed out Iraq for a bunch of Saudi nationals taking down your towers.

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    • IndyMason

      Look, if you want to help Syrian refugees, give out your address so they can come and stay with you. Don’t tell me that I HAVE to support anyone else, I don’t ask for anyones elses help to support me.

      • Motown

        ..and what about your ancestors; who came here because it was a place that harbored people regardless of their background?

        I imagine that their hope was for an America that could offer them a new future, and hope for their children. how would they react to an America who has closed their borders to those who NEED the same?

        finally, who asked you to support them? America welcomes refugees every day, from all over the world, without your permission. the issue at hand is one of vile racism based on an issue that is being blown completely out of proportion.

        your bigotry is just sad. it has no significance, it’s just sad.

        • Johnny Rep

          Our ancestors were not venomous.

        • Johnny Rep

          I am an immigrant, albeit as an adopted child. There is no such thing as bigotry against dangerous ideologies. This is not about being mean to people who are different. This is about protecting what we have against dangerous elements.

          • Motown

            Fear of something that is different from you is the definition of bigotry, it has nothing to do with the quality of either side.
            We’ve admitted more Muslim refugees since 9/11 than any other denomination. Where’s the smoking gun? What evidence do you have from those people that gives you the energy to spread fear about their ideologies? Do you have the same prejudices about the other Abrahamic religions?
            I perused the website you cited, and I wonder if you read past the masthead. I wonder if you’ve ever read the old testament. In fact, I wonder about just about everything you say.

            • Johnny Rep

              Practicality is not bigotry.
              Bowl 1: 10 grapes, 2 among them are poisoned.
              Bowl 2: 10 grapes
              Conservative: Lets bring in bowl 2
              Libtards: Lets bring in both bowls (even though Saudi Arabia, and other Gulf States should take them in (until they are able to go home)).
              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322649/The-enemy-Nearly-SEVENTY-arrested-America-ISIS-plots-include-refugees-given-safe-haven-turned-terror.html

              • Motown

                Bigotry is believing that an analogy which includes calling Muslims poisoned grapes is relevant to the real world.
                Are you familiar with how ridiculously rigorous our screening process for refugees is? No one is trying to bypass that process. No one. What people are trying to do is to ban Syrians from applying. A racist gesture that the world will see as fearful, crass, and undermining to the symbol of hope that America claims to represent.
                Statistically, our refugee admission process here in the US is the last thing you should be afraid of dying from when you step out your door in the morning.
                So please, stop fear mongering. Stop these baseless attacks on those who need our help. And stop undermining what has made America what it is.

                • Johnny Rep

                  “…what has made America what it is.” (chuckles) America is going down the tubes; and Europe, where I lived for 14-15 years, is well ahead of us. I am actually moving to another state because where I live is no longer the United States. The 1965 Immigration Act needs to be repealed, and we need to favor some nations over others, as sources of immigration.

      • Johnny Rep

        I’ll take 20. Chain them in my basement and ensure long-suffering…

      • kid_you_not

        I would prefer these dangerous, naive clowns be held directly responsible for any crimes committed by these refugees. Look them in the eye and challenge them to accept it. If they refuse ask them why? They can’t deny that these refugees will cause crime. Why is any American being harmed even being considered? That is on top of the economic harm and social destruction they will cause.

    • Emma Jokinen

      This pretty much sums it up

      • Dave

        Nice try. I hold extremists from any religion in the same regard, scum of the earth.

        • Michael W

          That you feel personally targeted by this statement about broad societal attitudes is extremely telling.

          • Dave

            Yes, generalizing, even about whites, is WRONG.

            • Michael W

              We can go down that road if you want, but… that didn’t actually address my response.

              • Dave

                You are making assumptions, wrong assumptions great sage.

                • Michael W

                  -You responded to the initial comment like someone was personally directing it to you.
                  -Your answer to me did not at all address that
                  -Your answer to this one doesn’t address *that*

                  Name for me a wrong assumption I’ve made? Or just veer off the topic.

                  • Dave

                    Over intellectualizing has really gotten you nowhere in life, has it Michael? You clearly are missing the point.

                    • Michael W

                      So it’s option B, then.

                      • Dave

                        WTF are you on about? Look man, you are clearly not speaking English and over intellectualizing over my comment. Get a life.

    • Dave

      European? LOL! With names like Ismail Omar Mostefai, Bilal Hadfi, Ahmad Al Mohammad, Ibrahim Abdeslam, they might be European on the passport but they are 100% muslim in their actions and birth names.

      • Robyn

        Muslim is a religion, not a nationality. Dumbass.

        • Johnny Rep

          Islam is a dangerous ideology. It should be destroyed like other totalitarian belief systems. http://prophetofdoom.net. Altruism without brains is merely ego-stroking.

        • Dave

          Please read what I wrote again: “European on the passport but they are 100% muslim in their actions and birth names.” 80% of all terror attacks occur in just 5 middle eastern countries, these guys are all Persian descent, not European. Do the math honey.

      • Johari Angela Malik

        You seem to be unaware of the fact that not all Europeans are white Christians… yikes.

    • Dave

      European. LOL! Ismail Omar Mostefai
      Samy Amimour
      Bilal Hadfi
      Ahmad Al Mohammad
      Ibrahim Abdeslam

    • Kahako Okina

      “All Paris Attackers Identified So Far Are European Nationals, Not Refugees”
      This is how our liberal media misleads us. The suggestion is that all the Paris terrorists are ethnic white, Christian/secular Europeans. They were NOT: They WERE MUSLIMS with European citizenship. Another “lovely’ headline from Mint Press News.

      • fr0wn town

        I don’t see your point. If many were French nationals, then it goes to show how poisonous the doctrines of Islam and the influence of IS is to turn these people against their countrymen.

      • Johari Angela Malik

        The suggestion is not that they were white. This night be news to you, but not all EU citizens are white Christians. Not sure why you think “European National” is supposed to be synonymous with “white.” “Muslim” is not a citizenship status. The suggestion is that, contrary to what many politicians would have us believe, Syrian refugees did not cause this terrorist attack and denying Syrian refugees is not a sound method for preventing similar attacks. I can’t believe this needed to be explained…

      • Rubyrocket

        Sounds very much like some 1930’s sentiments- “They aren’t Germans! They are Jews! better get rid of them.”

        • Johnny Rep

          Jews were not bombing and shooting Germans…

          • Rubyrocket

            As far as everyone was concerned, they were stealing babies and poisoning wells.

      • Johnny Rep

        I agree, none of them are, nationally, European; few of them are assimilated; and they belong to a dangerous militant cult. All of them need to be forced out at bayonet-point.

        • Motown

          Who are you to decide that they need to assimilate? Just because their communities are home to a FEW people who are willing to act on the (justifiable) hate in their hearts? The same was said about Italian immigrants, Irish immigrants, Korean immigrants, Jewish immigrants. Because of a few hate filled psychopaths, the entire community gets a damaging stigma.
          Guess what, those hateful individuals dwindle, and what’s left after the stigma has faded are neighborhoods that are rich in beautiful culture, and the nation is better for it.
          You need to stop painting in broad strokes. Bigots like you are creating a stigma too, and it pisses me off to be affected by it.

          • Johnny Rep

            It is generally assumed that new immigrants should want to assimilate. Assimilation is the opposite of alienation. People who deal with counter-terrorism are concerned with radicalization within certain communities. One big-boy word they use is “alienation”. Alienation can produce frustration, frustration can lead to lashing out. Lashing out is what keeps the counter-terrorism folks awake at night.

            The Assimilation / Alienation dynamic is also a two-way street. The people of a nation do not have to accept others (despite the machinations of their political elites). There is no nation that must take in others (Japan provides a perfect example).

            Additionally, German Jews (by the 20s and 30s) were quite assimilated into the German Nation: “Jewish assimilation began anew among Ashkenazi Jews on an extensive scale towards the end of the 18th century in Western Europe, especially Germany” (quoted from https://en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Jewish_assimilation).

            • Motown

              Mass immigrations have never resulted in a majority of immigrants assimilating. And history doesn’t speak kindly about those who demanded it. To propose violent exile to people who don’t meet your expectations is terrorism.

              • Johnny Rep

                Your ideology destroys America (along with the ambiguously American Resident in the White House), mine does not.

                • Motown

                  LOL, my ideology is America. The traditions of immigration and tolerance made this country.
                  Meanwhile, from what I’ve heard, your ideology is difficult to distinguish from that of the North Korean government. It’s an embarrassment.

                  • Johnny Rep

                    Altruism without brains, is ego-stroking. This is a disease of the anti-American Left.

                    • Motown

                      Oh wow. Now you assume I’m a liberal because I’m not an ignorant asshat.

                      I believe in statistics, and history. That is brains. Meanwhile, bigotry and violence are the signposts of emotional radicalism. Nothing conservative about that, at least not in a traditional sense.
                      I do find it increasingly difficult to support the right because it’s rife with people like you. It saddens me. Conservatism is a great thing, and you’re destroying its name through fear and greed.

                      I guess this scenario is no different.

                      • Johnny Rep

                        The problem is recognizing dangerous ideology. I believe that the Left (of course, here I do NOT mean all Democrat voters), gets lost in the ego-stroking of doing something compassionate, when we need to be careful in this instance. Islam is not just any religion, in a relative sense. It combines Religion and Politics in a totalitarian thought process that goes against the values we have in the West. It is the interest of Conservatives (and it should be in the interest of ALL Americans) to preserve those values we hold dear.

                      • Motown

                        There are between 5 and 12 million Muslims in America. They pose no threat to “those values we hold dear”. However, banning a people from applying as refugees in America demolishes “those values we hold dear”. Not only because of the symbol of the Statue of Liberty, but because we aren’t cowards.
                        Most of the Muslims claiming refuge here are running from violent Islamic extremism. One of the goals of these extremist groups is to correct the “lawlessness” that they perceive in countries who don’t adhere to sharia law. In essence, the people you’d like to turn away are running from the thing you most fear about them.
                        Do you get it yet?

                      • Johnny Rep

                        We have no compulsion to take in anyone. That does not, in itself, define a good value. Part of America’s problem is that we have never defined who we are; no wonder we have all this Identity-Politics going on now (thanks to the Democrat clowns). I am against us destroying ourselves, I am American. As this country gets more and more polarized, I believe we will find it necessary to divide it. One section for Americans, one for Communists.

      • Hekmat Alrouh

        So European Nationals = Ethnically white? Hitler would be so proud.

    • Cindy M

      They’re 1st or 2nd generation Middle Eastern Muslims who were born in Europe. Which are NOT ancestral/White Europeans.

      • Milan Smidt

        White… seriously.. Wanna start that one? Only White Europeans are trustworthy? I can’t even be bothered dealing with your stupidity.

      • Rubyrocket

        I’m sorry, would you like to borrow my sweater? I think your racist agenda is showing through.

    • Emy

      And that mean that even grown up in Eu they never change. Those poor me little children that are on the from page all the time , grow up to take revenge.

    • Barry

      See? They were Europeans! White Christian Europeans! Not foreigners. Euros! They were like David Beckham and Yves Montand and those cute Swedish guys in German nightclubs! That’s who did it! Not the migrants or anyone who is not European! Quick, look over there! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain….