NSA Surveillance Reveals Extent Of Israel’s Efforts To Derail Iran Deal Through US Congress

As Obama’s administration painstakingly worked toward reaching a nuclear deal with Iran, the NSA tapped communications between Israeli and U.S. lawmakers, revealing the lengths Netanyahu’s government was going to prevent the negotiations from concluding successfully.
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    The U.S. National Security Agency spied on close ally Israel, exposing how Israelis lobbied U.S. authorities to undermine the Iranian nuclear deal, RT reports.

    The monitoring came in spite of a U.S. pledge to tone down surveillance of friendly states, while the latest snooping even included some Congress members private conversations.

    Former Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee Pete Hoekstra called the interceptions an “abuse of power” and called for an investigation into the allegations.



    “WSJ (Wall Street Journal) report that NSA spied on Congress and Israel communications very disturbing. Actually outrageous. Maybe unprecedented abuse of power,” Hoekstra wrote on his official Twitter account.

    “NSA and Obama officials need to be investigated and prosecuted if any truth to WSJ reports. NSA loses all credibility. Scary,” he added.

    Massive surveillance has continued under President Barack Obama’s two terms, and the revelations of Edward Snowden in 2013 over the extent of the data harvested from civilians did little to dent the spy agency’s activities, according to the Wall Street Journal.

    A “protected list” rapidly pulled together by the Obama administration in the wake of the scandal to safeguard its closest allies from monitoring included countries including Germany and France.

    Israel, however, was not on this list, and was instead placed as NSA’s top monitoring priority, as was Turkey.

    A senior US official said told the Wall Street Journal, “Going dark on Bibi? Of course we wouldn’t do that,” using Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s nickname.

    President Obama endorsed the espionage on Israel because it satisfied a “compelling national security purpose,” further officials told the newspaper, which carried out the report interviewing more than 24 former and current intelligence and administration officials.

    As Obama’s administration painstakingly worked toward reaching a nuclear deal with Iran, the NSA tapped communications between Israeli and U.S. lawmakers, revealing the lengths Netanyahu’s government was going to prevent the negotiations from concluding successfully.

    The harvested communications between the Israeli prime minister and his colleagues created tension between Washington and Tel Aviv, and led to an awkward moment when Netanyahu addressed the U.S .Congress to hammer home his anti-Iran stance.

    Yet the White House was unable to use much of the information gleaned from surveillance as it would have been “politically risky:” exposing a “paper trail stemming out from a request.”

    But, the Wall Street Journal reports that when the NSA was tasked with deciding which information could be shared and which withheld, the agency recognized the conversations they had swept up included U.S. lawmakers, creating an “Oh-s— moment,” an official said, that the NSA was also spying on its own Congress members.

    The NSA dealt with the sticking point by removing the lawmakers’ names from intelligence reports and any trace of personal information.

    Government officials for Israel, Germany, and France declined to speak when asked for comment by Wall Street Journal, which was also turned down by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the NSA.

    Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz said the revelation is “indicative of the Obama Clinton foreign policy and their inability to distinguish their friends from their enemies” and attacked Obama’s stance on Israel.

    “The Obama administration has been the most hostile and antagonistic to the nation of Israel in our country’s history … it’s not surprising at all that the focus of the Obama administration would be on trying to intercept the communications of our very close friend and ally, Prime Minister Netanyahu,” CBS journalist Alan He reported Cruz as saying on Wednesday.

    But U.S. commentators have pointed out the irony of NSA “defenders” being scandalized by spying, when they happen to be the subject.

    This content was originally published by teleSUR.

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    • Tina Marie Deraco

      These legislators are involved in sedition and treason. They belong behind bars! No ally has a right to be involved in our foreign policy; yet Israel & AIPAC (a non registered foreign agent) infest and own many in our Congress. Last August 2015 – one month before they were to vote on the Iran deal – all new members of Congress were offered a 5 star vacation to Israel to meet with PM Bibi. Only 4 chose not to go. Apparently this ritual has been happening for a long time. We already know what senators wrote to Iran and who stood and clapped for Netanyahu last March, like he was their supreme leader. Any American citizen can’t come away without being sickened by the sight of the criminal PM of the Apartheid State of Israel, addressing our legislators on US foreign policy! I firmly believe that the US taxpayers should demand an end to their aid from the US! They already receive billions in loans that go unpaid and even more hidden in the DOD/Pentagon budget. We are literally paying for their society to have free education, free healthcare, state of the art infrastructure; but worse: to illegally occupy the largest, open air prison on earth: Palestine. Our police are being sent to Israel to observe and learn how they torture and murder illegally occupied Palestine. WHY? That”training” has created a militarized, brutal police force here in the USA. We need the names of those who were conspiring with Netanyahu and to know if they have dual citizenship with Israel. No one can serve two masters; especially in our government! Kick these people out or put them behind bars; but I won’t allow them to turn this around on the NSA or the president. They deserved to be under surveillance. I hope the DOJ starts issues warrants for arrest!

    • INFOSWORD

      The one question no one has ever asked is WHY “DO WE LET ISRAEL INFLUENCE OUR FOREIGN POLICY” The Untied States of America is not a proxy of Israel, nor should any US Congressman allow them selves to be bullied by them. Israel would like to drag the US into all of it’s troubles with it’s neighbors, yet we suffer the results of Israel’s arrogance. Why do we still prop up this “Banana Republic”? We don’t need Israel, cut ties, let Israel fight ISIS to do their part for world peace to show the world they can shoulder the burden, instead of crying and winning since Ferdinand an Isabella kicked them out in Spain in the 1490’s for obvious reasons

      • Jeff Weinberger

        Your comment was great until its ridiculous conclusion, which unaccountably conflates the plight of 15th C. Jews with the purveyors of modern Zionism. Those Jews in Spain, as they were elsewhere in the context of the Jewish diaspora, were horribly persecuted, and have nothing to do with the imperialist and apartheid project of Zionism. Like that of many others, your critique of Israel is but a thin veil masking the real root of your critique: Anti-Semitism. Criticism of Israel/Zionism is not at all inherently anti-Semitic. Yours, however, is.

        • Toroidal Prepuce

          Jeff, you spelled antisemitism incorrectly.

        • tapatio

          The leadership of Judaism has been involved in treachery, corruption, barbarity and other crimes for 3000+ years.

          More than 100 countries, over the last 2000 years, have found that, while the poor Jew shoemaker does his work, the banker and merchant who attend synagogue with the shoemaker are engaged in everything from outrageous usury to child prostitution and worse. The Gentiles of the country see “Jew” as blue-collar types always have lumped everyone of a cult.ure together.

          Thus, you have the Rothschilds and their friends yucking-it-up in London and New York after a successful rape of Germany……….while your aunts and uncles are roasting in Adolf Eichmann’s ovens, paying for what the Rothschilds did.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Very helpful perspective.

            Hang the bankers… and the super rich.

            • tapatio

              Yep.

            • Helen4Yemen

              I am angry that I was not commenting here earlier – this is in fact my specialty – it is now at 800+ messages

              http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/are-jews-white/509453/?utm_source=feed

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Woo! I can see why you are angry!

                I’ll help with some comments.

                • Helen4Yemen

                  Thank you my friend – I can always count on you 🙂

                • Helen4Yemen

                  There are so many comments that I did not even get a chance to look at yours – but I will try to find them.

                  I created this table today – and it has scared them:

                  1- Israelite1 x European-1 = Ashkenazi-1 = 50% European
                  2- Ashkenazi-1 x European-2 = Ashkenazi-2 = 75% European
                  3- Ashkenazi-2 x European-3 = Ashkenazi-3 = 87.5% European
                  4- Ashkenazi-3 x European-4 = Ashkenazi-4 = 93.5% European
                  5- Ashkenazi-4 x European-5 = Ashkenazi-5 = 96.5% European
                  6- Ashkenazi-5 x European-6 = Ashkenazi-6 = 98.3% European
                  7- Ashkenazi-6 x European-7 = Ashkenazi-7 = 99.15% European
                  8- Ashkenazi-7 x European-8 = Ashkenazi-8 = 99.57% European
                  9- Ashkenazi-8 x European-9 = Ashkenazi-9 = 99.78% European
                  10- Ashkenazi-9 x European-10 = Ashkenazi-10 = 99.90% European

                  Would anyone would like to step forward and tell me that my calculation are wrong? Waiting …

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    I think it goes like this, depending on how you want to do the rounding off.

                    1- Israelite1 x European-1 = Ashkenazi-1 = 50% European

                    2- Ashkenazi-1 x European-2 = Ashkenazi-2 = 75% European

                    3- Ashkenazi-2 x European-3 = Ashkenazi-3 = 87.5% European

                    4- Ashkenazi-3 x European-4 = Ashkenazi-4 = 93.75% European

                    5- Ashkenazi-4 x European-5 = Ashkenazi-5 = 96.875% European

                    6- Ashkenazi-5 x European-6 = Ashkenazi-6 = 98.437% European

                    7- Ashkenazi-6 x European-7 = Ashkenazi-7 = 99.218% European

                    8- Ashkenazi-7 x European-8 = Ashkenazi-8 = 99.608% European

                    9- Ashkenazi-8 x European-9 = Ashkenazi-9 = 99.803% European

                    10- Ashkenazi-9 x European-10 = Ashkenazi-10 = 99.901% European

                    The only difference is that I carried the calculations out to three decimal places consistently after reaching it.

                    So I don’t see that it really matters, since you made your point in either case.

                    I think that you could cut it off after seven generations without losing anything, since the Ashkenazi inheritance is less that 1% at that point.

                    • Helen4Yemen

                      Thank you, I will cut if off at 7.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        You’re welcome!

                • Helen4Yemen

                  I could not go beyond: “yet at the same time, so did the possibility of experiencing marginalization due to my ethnicity” So sick and tired of these fake people

                  http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/why-it-no-longer-matters-whether-jews-are-white/

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    Oh, aren’t they incredible? it doesn’t matter how much you study and document, they still keep to their fairy tales. I guess they have to. Truth will destroy them.

                    • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Yes, that article was stupid. I dumped those videos of settler terror on them as examples of bigotry they could oppose.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Here’s a very interesting short video I’ve picked up.

                        Why Did Adolf Hitler hate the Jews

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgcdUDlp-i0

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        The Forward used to be a publication worth following, but it begun to feel very tabloidish last many years – it is not even on my rss list. But I read through the comments and there were too many that I would have addressed. The most important issue is the question of “Jewish descend.’

                        https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/white.pdf

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        That’s quite a list, isn’t it? Most of the items are distractions near the periphery of relevance. The fundamental question is whether settler colonialism can be carried out justly. The only possible answer is “No!”, no how many dubious claims of distant ancestry are foggily presented.

                        Ashkenazi include the world’s greatest narcissists, especially those captured by the Zionist miasma.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        So you want me to flay it a little? Sure, why not? If it continues with more childishness, I’m just thank it for being a Zionist intellectual.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Yes, of course! His logic is so weird. I asked him if the Jews of Zimbabwe are related to the Ashkenazi and he said yes, because the Africans too are Ashkenazi – haha

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Let’s see what he says to my mock of, “No, they’re Chinese.”

                        He’s playing crooked. He doesn’t deserve honest answers. You can try giving him mockery, sarcasm, whatever shows that you are laughing at his faking.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It may not know what Ashkenazi means.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        You know that character ARDRigh who was harassing you recently, all his comments are marked:”this comment is awaiting moderation” – and next to it says “show comment” and you can click on each one and read them. I do not understand why they are censoring him since I do not see anything wrong he is doing – and why not just delete his comments.

                        https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/are-jews-white/509453/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It’s confusing in another way. Not all of them are so marked. My guess would be his word choice often runs afoul of their automatic monitoring filter, but I really don’t know.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Thank you for the info.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        You’re welcome! About eight and a half minutes in, this video begins to live up its name with some real hard wallops. You might save it for when you want some extra motivation.

                        George Carlin on Jews TheGreekAtheist Jan 17, 2016

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcK6SulOsVE

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Thank you, I will download it. I downloaded one of the videos you sent me today but I had to shut it off immediately because I cannot stand that woman – Amy Goodman!

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Whatever… nothing that’s offered is anything you’re obliged to accept. Especially Amy, but very often she has good, interesting guests. Other times very dubious ones. That sad simper doesn’t turn me on either.

                        Is it her manner that bothers you, or do you know something about her? She’s not exactly what she plays herself to be. She’s a millionaire now.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Amy Goodman will have on her show Chomsky or Finkelstein but never Ralph Schoenman or Jeff Blankfort or the lady of IfAmericansknew.

                        http://natsummit.org/transcripts/jeffrey_blankfort.htm

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu3AD0huKxU (8 hours long – I have not watched it – am now downloading it)

                        Here she is with Avnery https://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/8/uri_avnery_on_gaza_crisis_his

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                        You were smart to ban Cpt_Justice, he has just posted so many comments in response to mine – I will not block him but will tell him I have no interest in what he has to say.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        In that Democracy Now interview both Goodman and Avnery ignore the fact that the European invaders are by definition totally in the wrong, just like the Mongols invading and demolishing Mesopotamia, or the Crusaders grabbing a kingdom in Palestine. The Zionist overlords will not permit discussion on the dissolution of the thugdom they own.

                        Please note that because of my congenital deafness, any video with speech without captions is very difficult for me.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Ok, thank you for letting me – I will make sure to send videos only with captions.

                        How Amy Goodman is effective for her Zionist cause is not by what she says but by what she does not say. She will never mention that these are foreign Europeans – she will never mention colonialism, but it is ‘the occupation’. Because she thinks she is ‘Israelite’, she makes sure her guests say only what is permitted, that even makes her more dangerous. I have a couple of interesting video – I will fetch them and send them to you in a little while.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Please read this and share with me your thoughts – thanks

                        http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/jeff-blankfort-on-zio-con-wars-palestine-and-paul-jay.html

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Wow! That’s pretty heavily packed! With this Blankfort presents an unencumbered depth of perception:

                        The problem with all these folks was that they are Jewish tribalists. Whether
                        they think of themselves as that or not is irrelevant. They have been
                        so inculcated from childhood with the belief that Jews are the world’s
                        eternal victims and eternal scapegoats, that they will not accept collective Jewish responsibility for anything.

                        This not only covers the wars that Blankfort poses as examples. This also covers the entire persecution that the Ashkenazi have suffered over the last millennia. Let’s consider Twain’s analysis that the Jews (Ashkenazi) are hated because they are money getters. That is the overriding purpose, the getting of money, which is not the creation of wealth (done only through labor), but the extraction of wealth created by others. It is the placing of the getter’s mark of ownership in place of the creator’s, in other words, a swindle,usually fully legal by manipulated laws, that when recognized arouses anger and hatred.

                        True, many Jews do genuine work, but the ones that don’t, the ones that spend their energies placing their mark of ownership on as much wealth and power as possible are those arousing the antagonism for which all suffer. Because of all that tribalism, the vast majority of Jews can’t see that and fix their persecution problem themselves by eliminating the legal subterfuges and supporting the placement of taxes by which wealth is extracted to a few. They even feel proud of the bandit-thugs among them and so set themselves again for another persecution.

                        ———-
                        Amy Goodman

                        Right! She is arbitrarily unprofessional, and something of a fake (like Rachel Maddow), and perhaps something much worse:

                        Amy Goodman: Another 9 11 Cover Up Suspect and Warmonger

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaTDUgV8cNI

                • Helen4Yemen

                  a cpt-justice is responding a lot to what I commented yesterday at the Atlantic

                  Are Jews white article – if you can help

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    I blocked him. He’s crazy. I think he’s a rat suffering from toxoplasmosis. Give him my diagnosis and tell him he needs to see a vet – fast! – before he meets a hungry cat.

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    Okay. I unblocked.

                    • Helen4Yemen

                      Oh, he is that bad? I wonder why he did not make it to my blocked list. I also keep my blocked list on a file and there are now over 150…

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I only saw him for the 1st time a day or two ago. Maybe he just didn’t get around to harassing you before.

                        A lot of people think that Julian Assange has been taken. I’m watching this recorded interview of him by John Pilger, in which anomalies in the video and what technology can do. I believe it without betting me life on it. I’ve already seen the CIA pull off some very complicated and deceiving trickery.

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anbn3kFL17k&t=216s

                        It’s less than 7 minutes.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Listen: My heart has yet to stop beating, I was all shaken up, even felt like crying, I felt crushed, my reaction was serious grief! I thought you said he was in custody! I would never have thought that I would react the way I did. I looked up news items and I have not seen anything of his capture yet. What do you mean by: “A lot of people think that Julian Assange has been taken.”

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I can understand your feelings. but that suspicion has been around for nearly two months.

                        Did you look at that video? By itself it’s not fully convincing, but it’s weird that the interview never shows Pilger and Assange in the same frame. There are other earlier Youtube videos that add much more detail.

                        Even though Pilger has a sterling reputation, the CIA are killers who could have easily blackmailed him. I always pay attention when people disappear, then reappear, like Christopher Bollyn. Such people are most useful to the CIA if they continue in place as if nothing had happened. They can be used for disinformation and revealing other who had been working with him. Look at the videos. You will see dead man switches and canaries in the mine have been set in place. Wikileaks knows that these people whose secrets they have been revealing are extremely danger.

                        It’s possible that Assange is not dead. They might still be trying to turn him into a spy. If he reappears, I wouldn’t trust him.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I will watch the video and give you my feedback. I was just thinking what one can offer me to be a spy and there is only one answer: nothing. So I am sure that Assange is a much more disciplined person that I could ever be.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It’s not just money. They can threaten to kill your family, your friends.

                        But you are right. There are people who won’t turn traitor, inspite of prolonged torture, such Pedro Albizu Campos, the great Puerto Rican patriot.

                        War Against All Puerto Ricans: Inside the U.S. Crackdown on Pedro Albizu Campos & Nationalist Party

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khkONOYSB8Q

                        Or you could just check him out in Wikipedia.

                        What the US did to Puerto Rican wasn’t as evil as what the Zionists did to Palestine, but it was way up on the evilness scale.

                    • Helen4Yemen

                      I have combined two documents – one by disgusting Uri Avnery boasting about his state and a response by Jeff Blankfort. I too will read them again …

                      https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/the-boycott-revisited-by-uri-avnery-2-files-merged.pdf

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Well done! You present Avnery spinning out the usual hasbara confusion. Then you present Blankfort’s elegant refutation. How do you plan to get people to take advantage of it? I think it would be very helpful to a lot of people.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Well, if only I can get it together. I want to have just one link that contains all the links that I need people to read …if only …

                    • Helen4Yemen

                      “Desertpeace” This is from his blog

                      “I am originally from the United States. I have been living in Jerusalem for 33 years and have dedicated all of those years to try and create an atmosphere that will lead to a just and permanent peace in this area. Israelis and Palestinians have more in common that the outsider might see… I will attempt on this blog to show those similarities and show why I am so confident that one day we will live in peace together. I know it can be done!”

                      “Israelis and Palestinians have more in common that the outsider might see…”

                      That was enough to get me all fired up! It was ten years ago when I came upon this blog, When I read the above, I just was sizzling mad. I wrote to him and he wrote back to me, back and forth. I demanded to know what Palestinians (a people) had in common with a Nigerian, Russian, Chinese colonial settler Jews. I then assembled all our email exchanges and posted them online and it got heated – and he posted his version of our exchanges on his website. I wonder if you are familiar with this website? He does post many good articles – but for me, he did not answer the #1 question: who gave him permission to settle on that land?

                      https://desertpeace.wordpress.com

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        No, I don’t think so I’ll take a look.

                        I can see what you got so fired up. He is oblivious to the fact that it is the Zionist imperative that has caused all the trouble. Is he ignorant? Or just intentionally disseminating disinformation?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Good current featured article, THE CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE AGAINST PALESTINE, except it doesn’t say that the establishment of ‘Israel’ is unjustifiable.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        He does publish many good articles. He is a settler Jew from Brooklyn and yet he posts articles about injustice to Palestine. I did ask him way back then why did he need to be on the soil of Palestine to carry on his activism. Could he not do it from US? All that he would need is internet access. I asked if he was engaged in a physical push-shove with the settlers? He writes many places how emotional he gets when he visits holy sites, etc. Here is from today:
                        __

                        – Who does the land belong to? Certainly not to the ethnic cleansing Jewish occupiers who have displaced the indigenous Palestinian people.

                        – The trees were planted for the benefit of the Jewish European immigrant ethnic cleansers so as to enable them to feel at home in a land for which they had no love, but simply wanted to possess.

                        https://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/only-he-to-whom-the-land-doesnt-belong-to-is-capable-of-burning-it/
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                        Amazing that he published an article that mentions
                        ‘Jewish occupiers’
                        ‘Jewish European immigrant’
                        and does not see himself as one?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I don’t know what to say. Maybe this is his way of assuaging his guilt. Maybe he’s just trying to get Palestinians to trust him. The Talmud says that it okay for a Jew to lie to goyim.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        1 – Max Blumenthal interviewed by Paul Jay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTSA8Vpj_pw

                        2 Gilad attacking Max Blumenthal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yGWiqXE0_g

                        Sorry,#2 has no captions, but Gilad was attacking Max Blumenthal because he had attacked him on video Gilad looks weird on this video. Paul Jay was saying ‘some criticism of Israel is antiSemitic’. Like what? Blumenthal did mention ‘colonialism’ just once in passing. Gilad did mention ‘Jewish descent’. One gets real tired real quick of this very smart operators. Blumenthal wants ‘one state’ but do the Palestinians cherish millions of the world’s unwanted squatting on their land without their permission? What remains unsaid is why are these people on Palestinian land, what connects them to that land? That will never get asked.
                        And why is it always Jew vs Jew? Where the voice of the Palestinians?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Funny, when I accessed #2, closed captions showed up.

                        Yes, Gilad is right. Jay and Blumenthal are both dodging the fundamental question of why Jews are so bigoted and racist, and all the others you posed.

                        Dodging the fundamental questions is a common operation employed in the Zionist con game, another example of which is howling about the cheap missiles out Gaza while ignoring the nakba.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Instructions for Conquering Canaan

                        Numbers 33:50 The Lord spoke to Moses in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho, saying: 51 Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: When you are crossing over Jordan into the land of Canaan, 52 then you will drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their carved images, and destroy all their molded images, and destroy all their high places, 53 and you will drive out the inhabitants of the land and dwell in it, because I have given you the land to inherit it. 54 You will possess the land by lot for an inheritance among your families, and to the larger you will give the larger inheritance, and to the smaller you will give the smaller inheritance. Every man’s inheritance will be in the place where his lot falls. By the tribes of your fathers you will inherit.

                        55 But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then those whom you let remain will be like thorns in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will show hostility to you in the land in which you live. 56 And what I had planned to do to them, I will do to you.

                        , the way his face was doing contortions at the mention of the world ‘anti-Semitic’, how he appeared to express extreme sympathy for Blumenthal.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Sorry, wrong message about Numbers 33

                        I had copied to send it elsewhere — haha

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Thanks! I was wondering.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Did you get this one from me – it is showing as pending?
                        __
                        When I asked him to name what the Palestinians have in common with his
                        god-da-mn-ed settler a–, he said food and language. Of course, you have got to know me over the last year and can expect that I will get sizzling mad when he mentions the food that the Ahkenazi stole from the Arabs. And what language? He said Hebrew was similar to Arabic. Can you believe? Even now, I am getting so angry. I do like his website but rarely visit it.

                        (I have changed a couple of the words by inserting dashes)

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        First time I’ve seen it.

                        I wonder where he got that idea of similarity between Hebrew and Arabic. It sounds like he made it up, which means that he will make up anything.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I think it is sometimes good to visit our archive history now and then to see what is pending or deleted. I just happened to go there by chance.

                        I think Hebrew, like Amharic has some similarities with Arabic, for example the word ‘bet’ means house in Arabic and also in Amharic and Hebrew. The word ‘Ben’ means the son of – eg. Osama Bin (ben) Laden means Osama the son of the Laden. That is why we have the name of Ben-Gurion. But what he tried to aim at was that he -the Ashkenazi- was a Hebrew speaker and not a Yiddish speaker. That was why they had to kill the Yiddish language – so they can say – ‘ you see, we are indigenous, we speak indigenous language of Hebrew.’

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        There are some that claim that Hebrew was bastardized from Greek. The Gospel write wrote in Greek, translating from tales first rendered in Aramaic. But I’m not a linguist, so whether there’s any validity to it I don’t know.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Oh, how I hated to look at Jay’s face while interviewing Blumenthal, he seemed to express the utmost attention and his face was doing all sorts of contortions at the mention of the word ‘antiSemitic’, he tried to express the most sympathy his face could express – frankly I have never seen anything like it. Go back and watch it again and pay attention to Jay’s face.

                        On Blankfort: I have read so much of what he wrote and I do not ever remember him writing about the Ashkenazi being foreign or him having ever used the word ‘colonialism’. I seem to think that Ralph Schoenman and his wife are certainly more open about it. You see, when they hide the most essential part of the conflict but attempt to make it like India vs. Pakistan, i.e. indigenous peoples fighting over a piece of land, that is the worst kind of deception and I do believe even Blankfort engages in it.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Yes, Jay’s facial movements were a show in themselves. I wondered if he had shot himself up with epinephrine just before the interview.

                        The false narrative of two indigenous people feuding is why I often wade in right away with “European ZioNazi genocidal country stealers” right away.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I laughed – thank you for that. Really, he is not even recognizable as Jay when he was doing the facial gymnastics.

                        Some good news: Cpt_Justice agreed to go away.
                        Helen4Yemen to Cpt_Justice
                        I have no interest to continue this exchange with you, I do not want to block you, just accept my wishes and find someone else to follow.

                        Cpt_Justice to Helen4Yemen
                        CONCESSION NOTED. Go troll someone else.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        But the word of a ZioNazi country stealer or an “exceptional American” is not worth very much to indigenous persons.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        How do closed captions show up? Can you tell me?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Run your cursor over the bottom of the cursor screen. A small symbol labeled “CC” will show up in the bottom right. Click on it once or twice until a red underline appears under the symbol. Then you should see the closed captions delivering the spoken words. If that doesn’t work for you, let me know. It would mean that some of operation is occurring that I don’t know about.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Thank you, it worked.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Look at the penultimate paragraph in this article. It contains a very concise explanation between the relationship between white European settler and Indians, also between European Zionists and Palestinians, something I’ll be using next time someone talks about peace with Zionists.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Correction for omitted reference!

                        Look at the penultimate paragraph in this article. It contains a very concise explanation between the relationship between white European settler and Indians, also between European Zionists and Palestinians, something I’ll be using next time someone talks about peace with Zionists.

                        https://popularresistance.org/the-dakota-access-pipeline-and-doctrine-of-native-genocide/

                • Helen4Yemen

                  Remember I used to comment here. I saw this article when it first came but decided to give the man a break, I can see for the first time how has left the word ‘diaspora’ alone.

                  http://www.patheos.com/blogs/writingfromtheedge/2016/12/omg-ive-just-renounced-my-right-to-jewish-national-self-determination/

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    I’m amazed at how refutations you got out so fast. All your work of studying and organizing has paid off!

                    • Helen4Yemen

                      But I do not want to abuse the blogger’s sensitive feelings about him being from Palestine, I will go back and read my comments again and make sure there is nothing there even slightly offensive. But the thing is that I never engage in insults unless one considers ‘white man’ or ‘Ashkenazi’ or ‘Khazar’ insults.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Good idea! I can tone done my stuff a little too.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I was reading the article below and I was surprised when the author mentioned that “the land of Israel” appears rare in the OT. Therefore, I looked up ‘land of Israel” and found 6 times an ‘land of Cannan’ 28 times. Here is my question to you since I do not have Christian background.

                        1- God said he will bring his Israelite from Egypt. Where had they been living before Egypt? What was their original home?

                        2- He was giving them an already inhabited land called ‘Canaan? Who took possession of their land where they used to live once they moved to Canaan – or were they came from Egypt to Canaan?

                        3- The name of the tribe was ‘Israelite’? Did they rename Canaan to Israel?

                        These are serious questions, because, believe me, I do not know – and would certainly appreciate being educated.

                        https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/apr/18/invention-land-israel-shlomo-sand

                        https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=%22the+land+of+israel%22&qs_version=CEV&limit=500

                        https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=%22the+land+of+Canaan%22&qs_version=CEV&limit=500

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Mythology goes like this.

                        Abraham left the city of Ur in Mesopotomia with his household.

                        Settled in Canaan. Had a son name Isaac,

                        Isaac had two sons, old one Esau or Ishmael, younger one Jacob or Israel.

                        Esau, the older one, was supposed to get a blessing and his birth right from his old, blind father after preparing him his favorite meal, but Jacob conspired with his mother to fake up a savory meal and wear a skin on his chest so he would be feel hairy like Easu to his father, the stole Esau’s blessing and birth right. So even in mythology Jacob (Israel, or the father of Jews) cheated his brother, Esau (Ismael of the father of Arabs).

                        Then Jacob had 12 sons, one of which was his favorite, Joseph. the other brothers had hated how their father favored Joseph, so they bound him and sold him into slavery to a caravan heading toward Egypt.

                        Of course, Joseph got into the Pharoah’s favor. There was a famine in Canaan, and his brothers came looking for food. Of course Joseph forgave his brothers and they ended up getting enslaved.

                        After an indeterminate number of years, they supposedly escaped Egypt led by a guy who was always hearing disembodied voices and then came back to Canaan and did the usual Jewish trick of genocidal country stealing.

                        (Frankly, I don’t think they were ever in Egypt)

                        Then the Hebrews were ruled by judges, but they wanted a thug king. They got a wife stealer named David, who called this thugdom, “Israel”, but when the royal wife stealer died, the Hebrews split into two kingdoms, Israel and Judea, hated each other,

                        That’s it very briefly. There is no historical or archeological evidence for any of it.

                        Any more questions?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I laughed at your question. Just one more. When god was saying I give so and so’s land to you, a) it means that it was never their land b) where were they when god was giving them this land? Had they never had their land? Please forgive me if I sound unintelligent as I ask these questions. I rejected religion at a very young age. And I have often wondered if the Jews would have invaded Palestine had there not been Islam in the world, meaning that they would be going against the Christian world instead of the Islamic world. I wonder about that.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It went something like this. Abraham hallucinated that his god told him, “Kill me a son.” So that’s what he proceed to do. He bound up his only son, and put in on a sacrifice alter. Then his god told him because he was so obedient, he didn’t have to kill Issac. I think that’s when he gave him Palestine, full of cities of people who had no idea that this was going on and would never cooperate. Before his family went down into Egypt, they were never able to take possession of it.

                        I think the Zionists would have killed Christians as easily as they killed Muslims. They actually did start killing a lot of British after 1939, and killed the Christian Palestinians just as easily as they killed the Muslim ones. They were equal opportunity psychopathic killers.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I posted this message at that nice man’s blog. I wonder if he would pull the plug on me. I went over all my comments – and nothing looks rude or insulting.

                        Helen4Yemen robert e litman
                        Do you like your god? I am not being religiously supremacist since I have no religion. But what kind of god do you have? You like him? What if another god had told others to do unto you what your god is telling you to do unto others?
                        __
                        1 Samuel 15:3 “Go and attack the Amalekites! Destroy them and all their possessions. Don’t have any pity. Kill their men, women, children, and even their babies. Slaughter their cattle, sheep, camels, and donkeys.”

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It’s obvious that too much power makes god, like human beings, gratuitously very mean.

                        The priests are the worse. I think it’s funny that all these credulous Jews think they have a marker that says they’re descended from Aaron (the mythical brother of Moses) who must have been a real pervert.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I am enjoying creating pdf documents. This is the diary entry by Herzl when he met Plehve of Russia. There is no other copy online because I typed it from the original book. What we learn from it is that Plehve was very receptive towards Herzl and the reason is because Russia saw Zionism as the answer to remove the Jews they had wanted removed for a long time. Please pass it around. Thanks.

                        https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/when-herzl-met-plehve.pdf

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Got it.

                        What about the Zionist claim that the Ashkenazi were invited into Russia? I never saw any support for that. Did you?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Why on earth would they be invited when the Russians wanted them out.

                        This is from that document:

                        “That was it, I believe, the first critical move in this ‘immortal game’ of chess. For I understood all along that he attached much importance to the forthcoming Zionist congress, obviously because he saw that the Kishinev business was bound to come up there for a frank airing. When that happens I could be in the position of doing him a service by cutting the thing short. “

                        I forgot to explain what that meant. The Kishinev business was a recent pogrom in Russia , the Jews were accused of killing a child or children and so on. What Herzl was promising Plehve was that he would make sure not to have the matter discussed at the Zionist Congress which will be bad for Russia – and in return Herzl was seeking Russian assistance to interfere on his behalf with the Sultan.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Here’s a short article on the structure of the power elite according to the research and analysis of G. William Domhoff. He has come out with an update to his first edition of Who Rules America that I read over forty years ago.

                        I left a comment at the end of it. If and when you have time, I would appreciate your thoughts on the subject.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Where is the link?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced
                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I tried, not an easy read for me, I will try reading it again.
                        Nice website, but not too many commenting.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Not easy? That’s only because you’re not used to this kind of stuff. I’ve been studying it off and on for over forty years. So please take your time.

                        You might check this reference from this article. Just to see what’s in it. It could be very useful, if you want to chain in the responsibility for the misdeeds you’ve been studying.

                        http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/theory/conspiracy.html
                        http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Ok, I will read the links attached to the article.

                        I was so angry when I read this. There is no way the dna test of an Ashkenazi would say they are Palestinian – I just get so angry. If these people could prove non-European dna, first line would be Dershowitz displaying to the world his dna results. Do you notice no Ashkenazi has come forward with a dan test They can’t. Dna test for Ashkenazi can only way 90%+ European. This is what she wrote:
                        ___

                        “For me personally, I have had the great fortune of tracing my matrilineal ancestry to a Palestinian through DNA testing. Likely more than a thousand years ago, one of my very early grandmothers sailed or walked out of Palestine. And even though I’m quite certain I look nothing like her, she is still here in the fingers that are typing these words and in every cell of my body, the same as she is in the bodies of those living Palestinians who also descended from her. “(http://disq.us/p/1ecadlx)

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Hillary was back making some silly speech, her voice irritates to my ears.
                        Just imagine if she had made it – all those years of having to hear her shrills
                        Been looking to post my new creation -have not found one yet –

                        https://worldpeace365.wordpress.com/2016/12/09/hillary/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Thanks for showing me that! It made me laugh!

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Here’s an article where commenters are rabidly playing the ZioNazi con game. They could use you to pour some cold water on their heaving faces.

                        https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/12/06/jared-kushner-dont-waste-your-time-on-an-israeliarab-peace-effort/

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I see. How do they manage it?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        There must have been a reason, I am sure a good reason, why I removed PJmedia, Bloomberg news, and many others from my watch list. Maybe it was the way those commentators were responding – I do not remember. But I have now put back PJmedia onto my watch list.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Maybe their customary obliviousness got to be too much for you.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I have been trying to comment at Slate but was unable to log in, first time that I ever use Slate. I will keep trying

                        http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/12/the_israel_lobby_is_smearing_keith_ellison.html

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        At the start of the comment section, in the upper right, look for a small block labeled, “Load Writer and Member”. Click a check into that block.

                        The go to a comment. Click the like alternative, then you will get login options, using accounts on Facebook, Google, Twitter, and one other that I forget. That’s the only way I can see to login.

                        I have an old Google account that I used to login.

                        Let me know how things go.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Did you ever comment at Slate? I posted a few messages but I did not like the format, the font is so little and I just did not like it and won’t go back there again. I wonder why do they not use Disqus?

                        http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/12/the_faith_of_the_faithless_electors.html

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I haven’t commented there for ages. They keep going down hill. Like you I don’t like their format. You could try hitting ctl + to increase the font size and ctl – to contract it.

                        They have to pay money to use DISQUS. I suspect that they have a favorite they want to give money to instead to maintain their own commenting system. It also means that they control access to the comments, not DISQUS. But then they use Google, Twitter, and Facebook for logging on, so that privacy for their customers is thoroughly compromised.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I just love the way Disqus lets you know when one has commented back to your comments – no matter where. That is really neat. Actually, I do not like to comment anywhere where they do not use Disqus.

                        P.s. I do not see the benefit of having control of comments because they still can delete a user at any time. Actually, it makes their website run faster once the comment section has been handled by another site. Many of their articles had hundreds of responses. I wonder why would anyone choose to comment there? Well, not my business at this point since I have no intention of going back.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        You’re trying to see them as reasonably attentive to what’s best for their company. That reasonableness is breached all the time. Remember stock buy-backs? Those things are terrible for the company, but they do increase shareholder stock value and executive bonuses, which are determined by the increase of share value.

                        Also, remember what I said about their having a favorite that they would like to boost. That can be done by giving contracts outside the company to these favorites. this is what happened with with Bill Gates. His mother was on the board at IBM, and she arranged for him to get the contract for delivering an operating system for the IBM PC. Bill didn’t write it, he stole it, then hired the expertise for modify it and upgrade it as needed. So unless you know all the relationships and connections, it’s very hard to figure out precisely what a company is making decisions not in its interest. The cover up that you will often see is that the company officers are simply making mistakes. Undoubtedly they is frequently true, but in my opinion much more often not, especially since the American corporacracy is hideously corrupt at all levels.

                        Usually, the only way we know about a trick being played is that somebody on the inside blows a whistle on it…. and gets their lives wrecked in retaliation.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Fascinating story about Bill Gates …

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        There’s more to it. Gates rich parents sent him to a private school with a very advanced computer program. That may have been where Gates found out about the software he need to steal to create his Disk Operating System. I bet he also be special tutoring from IBM experts looking to make his powerful mother happy.

                        Thirty years ago I was much more naive. I couldn’t understand why IBM would farm out the operating system of such a revolutionary and potentially lucrative system. Now I look, even hunt for such undercurrents automatically.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        ” his powerful mother happy”

                        What was her position with the company?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        She was on the board, a director. She voted on executive compensation. There may have other elements to the deal. The directors and top executives often conspire together to loot the company. That was a specialty of Mitt Romney.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        How do you know they are complaining about us? is it with more than the usual sickness they employ?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        ketzel • 10 hours ago
                        There are some anti-semitic trolls here who are Jew-baiting. Is this okay at PJM? Helen4Yemen does this all the time, she should be banned, likewise TecumsehUnfaced. Those two aren’t smart enough for Stormfront, so they come here to insult Jews.

                        nolalady ketzel • 8 hours ago
                        Maybe it’s good for some to read their ignorant statements. It could be a wakeup call to naive people to know that such ugly, angry, hateful, vicious people exist. I don’t like them, and am scared of followers, but I don’t know that I would want expressions of free speech blocked.

                        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/pj-media/httpspjmediacomtrending20161209dutch_court_finds_geert_wilders_guilty_of_incitement_to_discriminatio/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        This sounds like the usual stupidity from Zionist trolls equating anti-thuggery with Jew-baiting. The second bigot even tries to gift us with followers besides the the usual calumny.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        To the first one I left this. Probably unnecessary, but I was weak and couldn’t resist.

                        Why do you equate being anti-thuggery with Jew-baiting and
                        anti-Semitism? It sounds like you’re maliciously accusing all Jews of
                        being thugs, a ridiculous proposition that is very anti-Jew. Or are you
                        just trying to shut down the free speech that exposes horrible crimes
                        like Plan Dalet?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I like it – it is good.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Thank you! Have you noticed they really work hard to get me to drop the term, ‘ZioNazi’? They really hate it! I admit that it sounds crude to the untutored, but it is an accurate description of the Zionist inhuman imperative and their conduct. I don’t mind suffering some attacks to get such an accurate term into wider usage.

                        Something else, whenever I’m sparring with these ZioNazi, it’s such a relief when I get a mail notification and find out it’s you. Instead of the noxious spew I always get from the zioNazis, I get something pleasant and reasonable instead.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        i saw your response to the second one. That was very nice!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Have you dealt with one before? He seems quite intelligent on his other comments but the ones to me look childish. He refuses to answer where the Ashkenazi is from?

                        https://disqus.com/by/daniel_schwartz/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I don’t remember him. But even if I’ve met him, it’s not surprising I don’t remember him. The most substantial thing he offered you was grade school mockery. Tell him he’s a bright boy, and that you’re sure his mother must be proud of him…. whenever she changes his diaper. I might even ask his permission to make her happy by telling her wonderful things about him.

                        Actually, the guy is quite clever. He knows he doesn’t have much to fight with, so he avoids it.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Exactly my friend. He knows when to fight and he knows when it won’t be worth it. I posted my 3-Jews picture and asked him if he truly believed that the European or the African could be from Palestine and he did not answer. What can he say? If he said yes, he knows people would laugh at him. But I like to have exchanges with him, because he is smart and does not engage in insults. Here is another one that I thought was cool. What do they have in common? Both indicated their desire not to engage with me. Of course we know the reason since I do not engage in insults and they are just running away to avoid embarrassment. But, yes, I would love to engage with both of them. https://disqus.com/by/disqus_kvVt6ertvz/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        That’s fine! I just lack your patience and kindness in dealing with them

                        I’ll play the bad cop, and you play the good one. But I think they are more scared of you.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        They are both gone never to return.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Helen, you frightened them!

                        But without getting them angry…. very nice.

                        But I confess that I like to shove their cognitive dissonance right up their nostrils. I hope to cause tension that will be relieved by re-examination, but in many (most? all?) cases all I’m probably gathering is evil intent.

                        But seriously, I think those two will re-emerge where they thing they will be safe.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I wanted to see if Paul Jay of RealNews would do his facial gymnastics in another interview and selected this video at random. It turned out to be an interesting video, no, his facial expression was normal, but he was shaking his head in agreement but you could only see the back of his head. What surprised me was that he does not seem to realize that Bill Maher’s hatred for Islam is driven because his mother is a Jew. Did you know that? But during the interview, Jay was giving some credit to Maher. Just strange.

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKbw4dkGQGM

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I saw a different story once that Bill was sympathetic to Palestinians once, got read the riot act, and got quickly back in line. The ruling powers has little regard for dissent or expose.

                        This is what happened to a FOX favorite

                        Glenn Beck Exposes the Private Fed; Gets Fired by Fox (G. Edward Griffin is a guest)
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB5LK-jihgk

                        But what you say about Bill inheriting his mother’s bigotry may be the actual truth.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        PJmedia is worse than right wing. It is fascist…

                        https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2016/12/10/feliz-navidad-venezuelan-style/

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        It never fails to amaze me. This person started to respond to my comments, but he wanted to comment on Yemen and not really addressing my comment that he was replying to. I then slapped him with the Yemeni stolen babies and other stuff.

                        https://disqus.com/by/menachembenyakov/

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Amazing performance by Glenn Greenwald against Bill Maher – only 2min26sec

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ntHNQIkQSw

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I’ve watched Paul Jay a lot. The interview with Blumenthal was the first where I saw all that grimacing.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Amazing to watch how they react when I put them in a corner.
                        They act like trapped mice. His logic is so hard to make sense of.

                        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/pj-media/israel39s_iron_dome_in_action/#comment-3045649925

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I can’t stand this phony ‘Rob’. He is just another Zionist lie machine. I’ll check back in later.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Haha! Kept posting this question but they cannot touch it with a 100 feet pole – scared of it
                        __
                        Isn’t the Ashkenazi European? If
                        not tell me what the Ashkenazi is:

                        a) Asian
                        b) MEastern
                        c) European
                        d) African
                        e) South American’

                        What is your answer?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        PJmedia is certainly right-wing. I wonder why they let us comment. Here are the titles of some of their recent articlres

                        __

                        Even After Trump, Left Still Using ‘Weasel Words’ to Conceal Truth

                        Actually, ‘Love Wins’ Wants Hate to WinIt’s just another attempt to equate “good” with “left.”

                        Mainstream Media Distorts Donald Trump’s Climate StanceNov

                        Trump Doesn’t Need Cabinet COIN-dinistas Petraeus, Mattis

                        History Will Not Absolve Fidel Castro

                        Judicial Activism Set the Stage for Trump Win

                        Gulag, Western Style

                        The Hysterical Left Is Making NeverTrumpers Reconsider

                        Paying Students to Protest Trump

                        How Trump Can Completely Withdraw U.S. From UN ‘Climate’ Deals

                        Turkey: Even Dead Christians Cannot Escape Islamic Persecution

                        The Environmentalists Versus Trump

                        Finally, Politically Incorrect Women Are Coming Out of the Closet

                        A Conservative’s Letter to His Daughter

                        Will Trump’s Populist Policies Actually Make America Great?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It’s almost like reading a list of titles from the old Onion. I think they let us comment because their customary commenters bore them silly.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Don’t count on it … our days may be numbered as we had faced in the past at many other places … let us just enjoy it while it lasts …

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Let’s make them pay us to come back. We can sneer at whatever they offer. Agreed?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Why I think they will cut me off? Because it is very hard for them to hear that they are not Semites. Since I never engage in insults, one has to wonder why I was stopped from these places? 20 total …
                        1- ABC news
                        2- Al-Monitor
                        3- alternet
                        4- Anti-war
                        5- breitbart
                        6- CNSnews
                        7- Foreign Policy Journal
                        8- Jewish Forward
                        9- MEE (I criticized their author)
                        10- National Interest
                        11- Rawstory
                        12- The Real News Network
                        13- WND
                        14- McGill

                        Jewish websites

                        1- elders of zion
                        2- FrontpageMag
                        3- Harry’s place
                        4- Israel Today
                        5- Isreallycool
                        6- unuitedwithisrael

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Scary, isn’t it? The claws that the Zionists have around the media?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Yet the The Forward hasn’t banned you. Interesting!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Oh, I listed the Forward with the others (see #8). Actually, I remember the Forward favorably, because daily there was an uproar to ban me, and I lasted a long time – like a year. It was the first blog that I joined on Disqus and I did not comment anywhere else for that entire year until after they banned me.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Yes, I see now.

                        All that banning is an unusual confirmation that you are effective, and the con game pushers can’t tolerate you.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Well, there is always another blog around the corner.
                        I will now delete that comment, I do not want anyone else to stumble upon it and see where I was banned …

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Right! You don’t want them to know where they can tell their lies safely without getting pounced on.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        How boring that they are all of the same opinion, no differing opinions”https://disqus.com/home/discussion/httpworldisraelnewscom/assad_israel_is_syrias_only_enemy_world_israel_news_02/

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        There have been a lot of reports on fake news lately. This is one of the genuinely good ones. The mistakes, thoroughly documented, are hilarious.

                        http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-behind-fake-news-mainstream-media-use-fake-videos-and-images/5557580

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        This will make for interesting reading, thanks

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        You’re welcome!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I do not expect to get an answer for this post – and it makes me very angry. I have not heard of a single Jew who had done dna test and shared it in public. In fact, why don’t we settle this matter once and for all and have a Deroshowitz or a Chomsky be willing to do a dna test with a Palestinian and be willing to share the result publicly. It will never happen, because they know they are European. I am now going to use it to hound them. Here is what I posted for which I got no reply:

                        _
                        Name an Ashkenazi Jew who had done a dna test and shared it with the world? He can’t! Any dna test of an Ashkenazi can only be 99% European and no Ashkenazi will risk exposing his fraud of being a descendant of “Israelite’. Otherwise tell me who had come forward to share their dna results?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        That was sharp of you to ask for the actual test. I never did, since at best it could be only a check list with a blurb of no verifiable information, something anybody could easily fake, which would be immediately obvious upon public exposure. Your asking for sharing their ‘tests’ is exactly what they don’t want to do.

                        You might also ask them at some point for the genetic allele tested to establish inheritance and how.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I have posted it many times today and no reply. Please understand that Dorshowitz would have been first in line to share his dna with the public. Day and night, they are told they are Europeans, and out of 12 million white Jews we do not have the dna result of even one? Btw: They cannot post a fake dna saying the are Middle Eastern, because they know people will laugh at them.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Remember, you asked me once where the American Zionists got so much money to push their cause? I didn’t answer to it at the time, because it was too much of a question for a decent chewing in a small amount of time. Here’s something related to that, you might want on your reading pile.

                        https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2016/12/10/published-us-intelligence-secrets-israels-anti-iran-campaign/

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        It will make for an interesting read, interesting that Truthout removed it.

                        This story came online only 4 hour ago and the comments are approaching 1000, I remember the Atlantic doing their best to elevate Hillary and to smear Trump before the election. But I do not get such interest in this story.

                        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/theatlantic/why_didnt_obama_reveal_intel_about_russias_influence_on_the_election/

                      • Helen4Yemen
                    • Helen4Yemen

                      I think the only way I can handle this commenting business is only if I enlist an army that would assist – and it really is not hard to do. I just have not gotten around to getting it started. On the PJ media link below, there is only 1 pro-Palestinian and 7 against him. On the Middle East Monitor one, I used to monitor it quite frequently and got tired – seeing only 1 or 0 responses to their articles. But when I checked today, the Peepsqeek guy is peddling his hasbara. I am not sure how to handle that? If I respond, that I will face a deluge of his comments and to let him peddle lies is hard to do.

                      https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2016/12/09/on-genocide-prevention-day-we-continue-to-fail-to-heed-the-lessons-of-the-holocaust/

                      https://disqus.com/home/discussion/middleeastmnt/canada_palestine_and_the_ku_klux_klan/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Letting them peddle lies uncorrected is hard for me too. Right now I’m throwing in a few comments at your 1st reference.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Thanks my friend, I know I can count on you.

                    • Helen4Yemen

                      You may be interested here …
                      https://disqus.com/by/israeliminx/

                    • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Yes, I see! You’ve have him transfixed! And muzzled!

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Sorry, that link shows an Ashkenazi;s dna test at 99% European and 0 ME

                        This is the link that has the interesting comments

                        https://blog.23andme.com/ancestry/the-uniqueness-of-ashkenazi-jewish-ancestry-is-important-for-health/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        You’re right. Some very weird mathematics here, where the percentage of ancestral overlaps had up to 200%.

                        The important thing that these people forget is that 98% of our DNA is shared with chimpanzees, which may be the reason they sound the way they do.

                        Almost all the comments are disconnected and don’t make sense. I think the reason is that there is no baseline established and justified. Nor are there procedures for sample choice established and justified. It seems to me that the researchers involved can arrive at pretty much any result they think will promote further funding.

                        I mean, the expression of 23% Ashkenazi makes no sense. Which Ashkenazi of all the Ashkenazi groups is the standard group, and how is that standard defined at the level of the DNA, or is it at the level of the alleles, or does it include repeating sequences both transcribed and not transcribed. It looks like a game of deciding what results you want, then cherry picking DNA characteristics and population sample to give you data easily interpreted to what you want.

                        So far, this field to me appears very largely a con game, developed mostly because Zionists had the money to pay coopertaive scientist.

                        Let’s think on this and see if we can’t get a sharper insight on this.

                        Besides, something is slowing down my computer right now, and I have to figure out what the fvcker is.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Ok, hope your computer is up and running to receive this message.

                        I have spent a lot of time today chasing info on ‘ashkenazi dna’
                        What I have learnt so far is that there is ‘ashkenazi dna’ like African dna.
                        The Ashkenazi dna is a sub-group of European dna

                        I remember sharing the link below with you long time ago. (I could be wrong).
                        Can you please study and share your thoughts with me – when you find some spare time. Thanks

                        http://www.pbs.org/weta/finding-your-roots/blog/ashkenazi-jewish-dna-potential-piece-together-shattered-family-branches/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Oh, it’s running, but some of the advertisements that leak through the filter of the private window I use eat up the cycles.

                        Yes, you did give that before. But I don’t trust anything out of Dershowitz. He’s a Neo-con, a right wing Zionist ideologue of dubious integrity.

                        Again, I don’t see a clear definition of what makes kinds of DNA classifications.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        That is the same answer you game me the last time. But the dna for Dorshowitz show him to be 99.% European with 0 ME? What does that mean to you?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It does? Where? Does he believe it? You mean, “Dershowitz”, not “Dorshowitz”, right? Does that 99% European include Ashkenazi? You have me confused.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        There are some things I need to do before I go to bed. Right now I don’t understand it. I think I see what’s being claimed but it doesn’t make any sense. I have no idea for his criteria are for his assignments. Is there a standardized DNA to which every type is normalized? It looks real pretty, but that’s how con games are supposed to look.

                        Let me get back to you later. But I don’t think I’m going to get any deeper with this. There are no sample raw data, or examples of how it’s processed. How does Dershowitz know that he isn’t 83% buffalo?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Ok, have a good night – we will continue to tomorrow.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I think Dershowitz got scammed. He’s very famous as an intellectualizing Jewish bigot, so the fake genealogist knew just what to tell him to make him frothing with delight, and that would make him helpful drumming up more suckers.

                        Those percentages make no sense whatsoever. What are the standards? How are they chosen? What is the sample selection used to create the standards? What arbitrary rules are used in these sample selections? Precisely what is being sampled? Complete DNA chromosomal sequence? (Which doesn’t make sense because of things like variantly repeating sequences and epigenetic modifications) Are specific genes and specific alleles being tested for? Where’s the list? What are the tests employed?

                        At this point I think you might find some reward in searching on, “DNA genealogy fraud”.

                        I think I see what you are doing: researching on whether the Jewish genealogy claims can be genuine, and, if not, devising a solid, easily understood refutation. So please feel free to keep asking more questions. It would be better if you wrote the refutation(s), since you have a better understanding of how to sizzle up reluctant, unscientific thinkers.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I will be sending a few links your way today, take your time, respond only if you can and when you can. For now, I want to share this link where I made many comments today.

                        http://www.patheos.com/blogs/writingfromtheedge/2016/12/omg-ive-just-renounced-my-right-to-jewish-national-self-determination/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Okay!

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Hi, I liked your comments to Richard Cohen. My guess is that he will eventually respond well to you. He seems to be a thinker in a period of change. Give him a little time.

                        Were my comments at all helpful to you? Have you found stuff better? How are you doing?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I doubt that Richard will respond simply because there is nothing that he can respond to without looking silly.
                        ___
                        The first link below has dna results of an Ashkenazi with 99.8% European and 0% ME. The second link has dna results of another Ashkenazi with 99.6% European and 0% ME. I have been looking for this kind of data. It is not possible that the results of any other Ashkenazi could be any different. With this data in had, I wonder how those who present fake dna would counter them?

                        1- http://web.archive.org/web/20141227210638/http://selfhacked.com/2014/12/24/23andme-results

                        2- https://twitter.com/neilhimself/status/278035051210498048

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I received only one link. The ancestry part is just bullbleep! It’s just a bunch of numbers, that any forger can make up.

                        The other tests reporting results for enzyme activities seem to be in regular format. I guess they do that because a fraud is passed more easily among genuine items.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I am not sure that I know what you mean? If they were to forge them then they would make them 99% ME, would they not?

                        I did not know till now that when you copy and paste twitter links that they post as picture – that was the 2nd link.

                        Can you please let me know what you think of the following?

                        1 https://twitter.com/lauraeveengel
                        2- https://twitter.com/abraunberg
                        3- https://twitter.com/somemetaphor
                        4- https://twitter.com/penciljesus
                        5- https://twitter.com/Renata_Dmyt
                        6- https://twitter.com/matttwood
                        7- https://twitter.com/matttwood
                        8- https://twitter.com/BenjaminKweskin
                        9- https://twitter.com/joycem137
                        10- https://twitter.com/emk808
                        11- https://twitter.com/abraunberg
                        12- https://twitter.com/motor_neuron

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        A question while I’m checking out you’re other links: don’t these people consider the Ashkenazi the same as all Jews, all having ancestry in Palestine?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        No, when they say ‘Ashkenazi’ in these dna tests, it means an ethnic or racial group by itself. Take a look at these and share your thoughts with me. I have no doubt that these dna results that I came across are legit but what is surprising and even shocking is how scared the Ashkenazi are to share their dna results because the news they receive is very bad news: 99% European and Zero ME. There are millions of people happyly sharing their dna findings with the world, but there is so little from the Ashkenazi. I keep searching and I have not come accross a dna test of Ashkenazi that even mentions ME. As I mentioned yesterday, the Goldberg’s and the Dershowitz’s would have been out there hollering their dna results had it said they were of ME religion.

                        1- https://twitter.com/somemetaphor/status/613715566440919044
                        2- https://twitter.com/penciljesus/status/779505901896015872
                        3- https://twitter.com/matttwood/status/709278855928754176
                        4- https://twitter.com/emk808/status/304983601190150145
                        5- https://twitter.com/abraunberg/status/288852590211522560

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        First a note: the twitter addresses are passed successfully into DISQUS but disappear when I follow the address to your comment in the the comment thread.

                        No mention of ME in any of them? I would guess that’s because they don’t see a need for that, that Ashkenazi is ME to them by the mythology they’ve been taught, but they are also aware that there is strong disagreement with that. Middle East Jew never shows up as a type in those test reports, right? Just Middle Eastern shows up?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I will share with you dna charts that have ME in them but not for Ashkenazi!
                        Ashkenazi in these dna tests simply means ‘Khazar’ but they cannot say it, but it is a dna category within Europe and by itself is like saying Irish or Italian or Greek. Boy, this is so exciting …

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Okay! I’m looking forward to it!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Wow! Where have I been all along? I spent sometime researching the Ashkenazi dna and I found amazing charts. ‘Ashkenaz’ is a dna type under the category of European like Italian, Greek and so on. The charts are color coded by region where the dna is pointing in the direction of. For the Ashkenazi, it is 99%+ Europe and the ME and North Africa region is totally white, meaning no genetic link to that region. Amazing! Even with genetic dna staring them in the face, they still cling to the myth of having origin in the ME. Shlomo Sand said in one of his speeches that 95%+ of Jews believe ME and no other region to be their ancestral homeland.

                        Look what happened when one of them received his dna test and found out 99% European and 0% ME. He seemed to be in shock! This is what he wrote:

                        “Am I really ethnically Jewish? 23andme says that I’m 91.8% Ashkenazi but I’m 99.8% European. I thought that I’d have some mid-eastern background if I was truly genetically Jewish.”

                        See how he is using the silly expressings of ‘Ethnically Jewish’, ‘genetically Jewish’. What I also found amazing too is that very few of these Ashkenazi dna have their dna results online, they would be terrified to let others know.

                        You were right, Robert did respond – but I may not respond back today – perhaps tomorrow.

                        https://worldpeace365.wordpress.com/2016/12/13/ashkenazi-dna/

                        http://disq.us/p/1efo2km

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Good work! Now we have something very strong to throw at them when they throw out their genetics card. That’s quite a collection of genetic reports you gathered.

                        In those reports I found several of a separate sub-classification of Middle East, which shuts out the Ashkenazi classification from being considered a mislabeled subgroup of Middle East. But I’m a little surprised that the Jewish pressure groups haven’t operated on this. Maybe they tried and were refused. In this case they would be going against the long time identification of the Ashkenazi being Western Jews, and the Sephardi as being Eastern Jews.

                        I still think these genetic profiles could be swindles – still no baseline definitions of classifications, or how percentages are calculated, but they do appear to have something.
                        I wonder how they would match up with your picture collection. Dershowitz certainly matches well with being European.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        “I still think these genetic profiles could be swindles”

                        1- I have no idea why you keep saying these genetic results are fake. They are not! These dna profiles are their worst nightmare. They would be swindles if the numbers were reversed, 98% ME and 0% European. But for them to realize 0% ME must be such a shock!

                        2- I do not know why Dershowitz agreed to do the PBS interview where it was revealed that his dna is 99% European. That number is correct.

                        3- In all the commenting I have done, I have never come across these kinds of charts. The only one that I came across was the one of Dershowitz by PBS and when you said it may not be legit, I agreed, considering that Dershowitz would be the last one to expose is 99% Ashkenazi dna. Now I am finding out that it was indeed his dna profile.

                        4- My side-by-side pictures are now of so little value compared to this amazing and powerful scientific evidence. With the pictures, they could always say that some Arabs do in fact look European – but with this 99.80% Ashkenazi dna and 0% ME, they have no room to play with.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Before you read further, please understand that an allele is a copy or version of a gene. Attribution of genetic heritage is indicated by possession of an allele residing most in certain groups.

                        Those ‘genetic profiles’ are summations with no supporting data. Which genes are tested? Which specific alleles? How specific are the alleles to different population(s)? What do they do, when alleles point in different directions? Chop up the profile percentages according to the different directions the alleles point? What if the alleles point to several subgroups of people? How does that appear in the ‘genetic profile’.

                        Usually, when genuine genetic investigation is done, it looks for very rare alleles with low probability that unrelated people would have them. Or it a may use a collection of somewhat rare alleles of different genes, where there is a very low probability that all of them would match and the people unrelated.

                        Remember your example of a rare genetic allele that many of the Iranian Jews tested had, but none of the Ashkenazi tested had? It established that the Iranian Jews were an interrelated group to which the Ashkenazi didn’t belong. Now imagine the long trip that has to be traveled to get to percentages of ancestry from different groups. I bet you can’t do it. I bet if I sat down with a pencil and paper and a computer for a few days I might come up a scheme of debatable soundness.

                        I think the reason that you never came across these charts was that the generators were not anxious to have them exposed in a way that would provoke scientists to take a hard look. I’m sorry, but it still looks to me like a well designed and executed scam. But so what? Shove at the Ashkenazi frauds and watch them stumble around in confusion.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I had asked Cpt_Justice that I did want any further dialogue with him and he did in fact agree. But he has come back. Amazing that he is saying dna can prove that Ashkenazi are from Palestine. I have to respond with two of the charts and see how he would react. What could he possibly say? That the charts are fake? Then he should provide his chart – which he cannot find one that does not say 99% European and 0% ME. How I now feel I wasted so much precious time in the past unaware that these dna charts exist. And why would Jews like this one dare us about dna? Is it because they know that we do not have these dna results? We are going to find out soon how this CPT reacts to the charts – stay tuned.

                        Note: Unfortunately, the Atlantic does not allow images but only links – good enough for me.
                        _____________
                        Cpt_Justice 5 minutes ago
                        Stop lying. Stop lying about Jews, stop lying about the Middle East, stop lying about history. Your lies grow apace & this one contains the worst of them. You should be ashamed,but, as a bigot, I know you have none. Jews are from Israel, as the DNA & all historical facts prove. Jews are NOT “colonizers” in Israel, &, in fact, cannot be. In further fact, you show that you do not know what the words means when you see it. There was “generosity” on the part of local Arabs – there was the Hebron Massacre. It takes a truly sick hater to pretend that *that* was “generosity”

                        Cpt_Justice 4 minutes ago
                        Thank you for proving that when you start from a false premise you reach a false conclusion. Stop erecting strawmen, stop lying. You see, *everyone* buys this “coming back” fact because everyone knows that it’s true, by both history & blood. The only ones who pretend otherwise are haters & other liars.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I wonder how Cpt_Justice would respond? How can he refute dna results?
                        I am really anxiously awaiting his response! You see, he is now boxed in but
                        would he admit defeat? What can he possibly say? Since this is my first test
                        hitting them with genuine dna results, I can’t help but be excited about it.
                        I wonder, I wonder, how he would respond.

                        http://disq.us/p/1eg4z32

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        If he says it’s a fraud. Challenge him to prove. Tell him that Alan Dershowitz believes it.

                        Cpt_Justice is just blustering.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        He produced 5 links of fake reports and then I replied like this:

                        http://disq.us/p/1eg7lzx

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        He just collects those links with no understanding of what they say. I challenged him to pick one out and support it.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I provided the sources of my info and he still said how does he know they are not fake, right? Then I recreated a spreadsheet of the PBS dna for Alan Dershowitz and it looks like he has fled. I am so excited to be experimenting with what their reaction is going to be. He is probably now consulting with Jewish groups how to handle it, but I will chase him around and hound him. I wonder how the rest who used to provide dna excuses will react? I am now about to slap him with this link that I just created.

                        https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/alan-dershowitz-dna.pdf

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Great! He deserves to get beaten up!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Hahaha! I told you! You see, the reason that I had to ask this person to stop commenting back to my comments was because his comments were coming one after another very quickly. But you see now what has happened. In response to a detailed DNA of Alan Dershowitaz and others, he said “Thank you for admitting that you ignore all facts that disprove your cherrypicked lies.” You see, he did not say, ‘No, Alan Dershowitz is in fact 98% ME, right? Haha. We now got them and got them good. It is going to be a lot of fun.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        They got hoisted on their own petard. They started this DNA stuff, because it was easy to fake, and the scientists were cheap for the propaganda value they got.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I will recruit a group (sooner or later) to assist me with the dissemination of this very vital information. You see what happened to Cpt? He left running. I asked him if he could provide the dna of one Ashkenazi that states his European dna less than 90%? He will never answer it because Ashkenazis are European. I keep searching for more data on Ashkenazi dna, hard to find, because they lose the ME identity and they are no more who they believed to be, the shock must be extreme. I am now searching around for news stories where I can plug in these DNA charts.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Amazing article – the best. Cpt_ has posted many comments –
                        all nonsense. I wonder how he would refute this article

                        http://disq.us/p/1egdubw

                        http://www.thejewishweek.com/editorial-opinion/opinion/call-me-pocahontas#9quREWkJfL3OxWHW.99

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It looks like he’s flailing desperately.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I saved that article by the Rabbi. I always worry that they may delete it. Did you read it? His dna was 99.9% European and 0.1 % Native American. He is now calling himself ‘a person of color’, he is engaged in sermon of love thy neighbor forgetting that his ME dna is nowhere to be found. So funny.

                        https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/all-people-of-color-_-the-jewish-week.pdf

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Yes, now he needs to go to Palestine, and recover the lost souls of the ZioNazis.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        My response to Cpt – I wonder how he would refute the Rabbi’s dna at 99.9% European and posted at a Jewish paper?
                        ___

                        Me: I want you to post a DNA test of one Ashkenazi. Can you?

                        You: I want you to read the articles that disprove your cherrypicking.

                        Me: Your answer should have been, yes you can or no can’t.

                        You: The articles SHOW that these singly picked DNA tests are ANOMALIES

                        Me: That is why we are waiting for you to post your own dna test of an Ashkenazi. Can you? What are you afraid of? Because all dna test for all Ashkenazi would say 90%+ European? If not, show us one that doesn’t.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I doubt if he’s had a test done on himself. Your pushing I think will make sure that he never has one. he’s scared, and wishes you would go away.

                        He’s ignores everything he can’t twist. I told him at least three time to look up the article on junk science in response to his list. He still hasn’t done it.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        The lies, I did not read it, just looked over it. How could they be ME with 0% dna results for the Ashkenazi. They use terminology such as ‘Levite’ ‘diaspora’ ‘Hebrew’. Just horrible. Who reads this junk?

                        – Ashkenazi Levites (the word ‘Levite’ occures 70 times, ‘Ashkenazi 123 times, ‘dna’ 16 times.

                        – pre-Diaspora Hebrews and Diaspora Hebrews

                        – the origin on the Ashkenazi Levite lineage.

                        – Abraham’s children in the genome era: major Jewish diaspora populations comprise distinct genetic clusters with shared Middle Eastern Ancestry

                        – Diaspora Hebrew Levite lineage or that continuous gene flow existed between Jewish communities

                        http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3928

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I don’t think many people do read this. The science and the logic is mangled, e.g.

                        “we conclude that haplogroup R1a-M582 was likely carried into Europe by Jewish migrants”

                        I don’t see how a conclusion could be reached on an event arbitrarily described as “likely”.

                        Then there’s all that terminology derived from mythology and utterly unsupported assumptions such as they have an indisputable group of ‘Levites’. I had Jewish friends tell me that nobody knows what Jewish caste they belong to, unless they’re playing games.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        He is now saying that when they say 99.8 Ashkenazi that they mean “Jewish Semitic” and not European (as you had anticipated). But the thing is the Ashkenazi is added with all the other components from Europe as European. Also, there is a separate category for ME-N-Africa.

                        http://disq.us/p/1eghax0

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I see. Good response! I added one of my own. Maybe we will trigger his paranoia.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Just amazing! To say that ‘Ashkenazi dna’ means ‘Jewish semitic’ while it is added together with the European group? That is what they call being in denial. I told you that they would prefer to fall on the sword before letting go of their fake Semitic identity. And there is a distinct dna group call ‘ME-N-Africa’ under which all the Jews of the ME will fall. Does it mean then that there is yet another ‘Jewish-Semitic’ category different from the rest of the ME? So silly. He did not expect this dna to hit him so hard on his face. Remember, they always said dna-this dna-that. And look at him now!

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        In a few of your collected DNA samples, it’s even worse than that for him. Under the ME-N-Africa group, there’s a subgroup of ME, which has to contain the genuinely Semite Jews and their Semite relatives in Palestine, Syria, and Iraq.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Exactly. I think he has given me good exercise what to expect when I unleash these dna studies. I told him that there are underlines to divide up the categories on the dna charts and that Ashkenazi is always grouped under ‘European’. If this does not convince them, I do not know what will. But these dna studies are my weapon from here moving forward. It is not him that I have to convince but other readers. They can clearly see that his arguments make no sense and he is like a drowning man clutching at straws.

                        http://disq.us/p/1egizks

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Let me know when you work the others over! I hate these barbaric prevaricators. I want to see the carnage you deal them so politely.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        This is from the article I sent to you about the Rabbi. He said:
                        __
                        I am:

                        1- 97.2 percent Ashkenazi Jewish. No shocker, there;
                        2- 0.8 percent Eastern European – I knew there would be a Cossack in there somewhere;
                        3-0.2 percent Southern European, which includes Italy, Iberia and the Balkans. It’s noteworthy that 20 percent of the current population of the Iberian Peninsula has Jewish ancestry;
                        4- 1.7 percent Broadly European – pointing to some more generalized strands of genetic material going back to the hunter-gatherer days when Europe was settled;
                        5-And finally, (wait for it…) 0.1 percent Native American.
                        Call me a mutt.
                        ___
                        1- When he says ‘Ashkenzi Jewish’ the word ‘Jewish’ does not belong in a dna test. He put it there to deceive like Cpt_- to make people believe perhaps it is a ‘Jewish category’ whereas it is a European category and he should have said
                        ‘ Ashkenazi European’.
                        2- I have no idea what he is trying to say with ‘Cossack’?
                        3-His Southern European is only 0.2% -but he is trying to connect himself to the”Iberian Peninsula”, anything away from Eastern Europe as his origin.
                        5- Because of 0.1% Native American, the title of the article was
                        “We are all people of color”. Can you believe how these Ashkenazi hate everything about their Khazaric genes and would love to be anything else, specially ME, but never African. I do not think this man would have disclosed it if his 0.1% was African instead of Native American.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        0.1 percent Native American? That makes me very suspicious. I really wonder what was the testing path that could come up with that, especially for an Ashkenazi rabbi. I still think this DNA testing company is a scam. I don’t see how it could not be at least be a partial scam delivering a resolution impossible to achieve. Also, the price seemed awful low when I saw it, though I don’t remember it. Maybe not, but let them prove it. They are the ones who wanted to play this DNA game with dubious data and unwarranted assumptions.

                        Meanwhile, grind them with it.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I do trust the tests for the simple reason that there is nothing the Ashkenazi wishes more than to be from the ME and these tests have totally demolished his fantasy. These tests go back 500 years. That is right. You remember how I did the Ashkenazi mating with Europeans and how in 7 generations, the European ratio went up to 99%. This is what is you see here to. A very long time ago, there was a Native American ancestor who got into the mix.

                        I have said goodbye to Cpt- if you have time – go read so many comments that he posted and all of them just nonsense. This was my last message to him -I hope he will leave me alone or else I will block him.

                        _________
                        Ok, we can go around 100 times, you wanna be Semitic, you have to be born again of Semitic parents and not of any Ashkenazi parent since they are European. Those are my last words to you. I do feel sorry for you because the Ashkenazi is the only group of people who wants to be another race that he is not a part of. I have had enough with you, you are in total denial, I am wasting my time and therefore I seek no further dialogue with you. I do not want to block you but one more response from you and you are done. Please respect my wishes. Thank you for having those exchanges with me and goodbye.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        You must understand that some people just mail in their dna material to them. Can you imagine a black person receiving back his dna results as 90% caucasian or a white person receiving his dna as 90% black? When people receive their dna, it is what they expect unless they do not know who their biologic parents are.

                        Read these stories, please.

                        https://blog.23andme.com/23andme-customer-stories/jesss-story/

                        https://blog.23andme.com/page/2/?s=ASHKENAZI

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It’s sounding better. But do you believe all those stories????

                        Sorry, I couldn’t resist teasing you.

                        You sound like you are very well set up now, if any of the hasbara trolls try to impeach your genetic reports.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I have no money to waste, but if I sent for my dna, I expect to receive what I would expect, right? How would they know anything about me to make it up? I certainly believe the dna tests to be true. These Ashkenazi test results go against their life-long dreams of belonging in the ME. They are now saying to wait until the dna technology improves where they could go back 2000 years. Haha! What the Ashkenazi wants to say is that 2000 years ago, his dna was solid ‘Semite’. What nonsense, they make me sick. Maybe in the not too distant future, the dna test will come down to $20 and I may consider. But for adopted people, what a wonderful chance. I remember reading about Steve Jobs, how his biologic father who was Syrian used to own a restaurant where Steve used to go for lunch. After Steve was adopted, the couple got married and raised a daughter (Steve’s full biologic sister). When Steve traced where his bio-mom was, he also found his sister who told him his bio-dad was the guy where Steve used to have lunch. That is spooky, isn’t it? To make a long story short, Steve hated the man as a father – while as a restaurant owner he liked him. When hos sister went to see the father and mentioned Steve Jobs, the father told her that Steve was a great guy, he gave the best tip – not knowing he was the father of a world-famous businessman.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I guess Steve’s father was lucky not to be treated by Steve’s employees. But Jobs was much more the genuine article that his competitor, Bill Gates, who was born rich but stole a lot of what made him successful.

                        I’m slowing down and getting sleepy. I’ll be giving you better conversation in the morning.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I am not sure if I 2nd link I sent was the right one,

                        https://blog.23andme.com/23andme-customer-stories/jesss-story/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Yep, you got it right!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        https://i1.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/afro-euro-arab-jews.png?ssl=1&w=450

                        Cpt: “Why are you afraid to say that the “white dude” is painfully obviously Semitic? Just look at his features! He would be first in line at Auschwitz, where your spiritual forbears would shove him, just for looking that way.”
                        ___
                        I think it is so funny that Olmert looks Semitic. I won’t need my images as much now that I have a more powerful weapon, the dna. (I won’t respond to any of his comments anymore).

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Olmert doesn’t look Semitic, he looks corrupt. Is he still in jail?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        The CPT says he refused to go away.

                        Cpt_Justice 12 minutes ago
                        OK, we can go around a million times, and it will still be that Ashkenazi are Semitic. It is you who is in denial, because you are a hate-filled bigot who needs lies to attack Jews with, because the truth is your enemy. I have proven that with tests that you have ignored, trying to obfuscate those truths with non sequitur demands for expensive personal DNA tests, that are meaningless in the face of those self-same studies. I am absolutely not going to respect *any* of your arrogant “wishes”, as I am not bound to knuckle under to any bigot, much less such a lying one. Your threats of “blocking” me are empty, because that will not only not bother me one bit! I would love it, as it will prove to EVERYONE just who is afraid of whose posts. You have *always* had the power to keep me from stomping you: JUST STOP LYING. If I come across you lying, I will beat you down every single time. That’s a promise. If you don’t want me replying to you, STOP LYING.

                        __
                        This is a link of pictures of Muslims that I was creating to humanize a very badly maligned group.
                        https://wordpress.com/post/worldpeace365.wordpress.com/4468

                        __
                        Bye till tomorrow …

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I tossed in a few short comments so get the toads hopping happily.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Here is a very interesting comment you might like to take a look at. This guy seems to be up on a lot of recent research I don’t know about.

                        http://disq.us/p/1eh0lg5

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        OK, you made me laugh with this comment – I consider it a compliment – and of course, I will let you know when the mauling has begun.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Ok, I will now go look at your post. You can also simply ask him that out of the 13,000,000 Ashkenazi Jews in the world, have him provide us with a DNA result.
                        He won’t dare post it because it will simply say 99% European and 0% ME.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Robert asks questions that you’ve already dealt with in your previous comments. I think you’re right to take your time responding.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I do believe Robert is a nice person without a doubt. I have to be very careful when I answer him. Remember how he once answered the dna question saying it was complicated or something like that. If only I had these dna charts – I wonder how he would have reacted. I do notice that he is now much careful not to use words such as ‘diaspora’ because he is well aware that I am watching. You notice how Richard Silverstein did not respond? He can’t – there is nothing that he can say without making a fool of himself.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        This rabbi Zarmi seems possessed by dogma, which isn’t too confusing when he restricts his discussion to dogma, but as soon as he starts talking about history he immediately falls into false narrative to make history conform to his dogma.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        But the shock that he must feel when he is confronted with dna chart!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Never mind the 10 twitter links that I just sent to you – I will check them first and resend

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Do you see what I’m saying? These people think that Ashkenazi means Middle East ancestry. That’s why they happily pass on the ‘report’ that says they are 98-99% Ashkenazi.

                        Then when researchers actually do test for Middle East ancestry for a general report, they cherry-pick the individuals most like to have some ME ancestry, or include Arab Jews as simply Jews.

                        So there are two kinds of testing going on, individual testing and group characteristic testing. I’m not sure that those citing ‘DNA evidence’ know the difference.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Please look at the chart below. Ashenazi is added as European. “Ashkenazi’ in these dna test means an ethnic group. If they could, they would simply call it ‘Khazarian’. When they say ‘Ashkenazi’ it is like saying ‘Italian’ or ‘Irish’ or ‘Kenyan’. You will notice in this chart that 99.8% European is inclusive of the Ashenazi portion of the dna. There is no test done by an Ashkenazi that says ME unless the Ashkezazi (Khazar) cross-bred with an Arab Jew in which case he is no longer Ashkenazi but 50% Ashkenazi – and therefore would expect to see ME in the dna.

                        P.s. You have no idea how important these finding are to me. I have been looking for them for a long time – I just did not know how to search for them. In fact today, I did post them online, and guess what? In fact what I said was how could you claim Palestine if your dna says 0% ME? Nobody challenged them – in fact they run away from them. They are legit.

                        http://web.archive.org/web/20141227210638im_/http://selfhacked.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Screenshot-2014-12-24-11.29.04.png

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Okay, good point! Something you could point out to them, hehe!

                        I bet a gang of rabbis will request a special meeting with the testing service.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I have so much to share with you -cannot describe my excitement-I do not know why I did not search for this info a long time ago, better late than never – will share lots more info with you tomorrow. Goodnight

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I like that! I can imagine that it will cause a lot of sinking feeling among Ashkenazi claiming ancestry in Palestine.

                        I guess you haven’t seen any Arab individual with both photograph and DNA test results made public. A match of high ME DNA percentage with Arab identity and appearance would add even more weight to your presentation.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Yes- exactly! I need to keep searching and if I feel, I will reach out to some Palestinians. But I have been quite angry today and the reason is that after I posted these dna results, nobody would touch them, no one challenged them. The Rabbi was saying to me that one isolated dna has no value. But now I have many – and I will continue to look for more. I think dna will eventually sink them. I know these dna results are real, but I begun to wonder why would people like Bill Maher who had always tried to fool the people that he is not Jewish (despite his appearance that gives him away) agree to do the test? Why did Dershowitz agree do to do it? See what has happened now, I am using them to expose them for who they are. I am still very excited about these dna charts and I will continue to search.

                        P.s. What do you mean ‘with both photograph and dna test results’? I created the photo and dna pictures. If I find a Palestinian dna, I will also create it in a similar fashion.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Okay, great!

                        It doesn’t matter that they aren’t responding now. I bet their who hasbara organization is searching desperately for a clown among them, who will dispute with you. Ask them for Harry Ostrer or Karl Skorecki.

                        This is very interesting. What will they do?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I have assembled some interesting dna charts. I am beginning to understand what the colors mean on these charts: violet=ME, dark-blue=Ashkenazi, light-blue=Europe, yellow=Asia, red=Africa and so on. I was able to spot them from the colors. What I am finding interesting of the Ashkenazi is how tightly they cross-bred with on another. I found some ME as high as 98%. Explore.

                        Amazing that I posted so many of the dna data that I created – and not a single response. Very hard to challenge dna science.

                        https://worldpeace365.wordpress.com/2016/12/15/middle-eastern/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Here is something that may be helpful to you later, that I just read.

                        The General’s Son: From Privileged Zionist to Activist for Palestinian Rights – RAI (1/3)

                        On Reality Asserts Itself, Miko Peled tells Paul jay that his father, a famous Israeli General, was ostracized for saying it was necessary to negotiate with the PLO and respect Palestinian self-determination; but he never gave up his belief that the expulsion of 1948 and creation of a Jewish state was justified

                        Ilan Pappé in one of his books, he mentioned how when the very early settlers came, the very early Jewish settlers came to Palestine in the late 19th century, they couldn’t plant lettuce. They couldn’t plant food. They were dying of malaria. They were sick and the Palestinians, the farmers would come and help them because they were starving and they were sick. In their diaries, those same Jewish settlers were talking about how these aliens, we have to rid our country of these foreign aliens which are the Arabs.

                        So I mean the ideology that the Arabs are the aliens and this land is ours runs very deep.

                        http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=17898#pop1

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Thank you, I read it. I just created this one … getting tired of so much denial despite the dna tests. So far, no one has attempted to dispute them.

                        https://i2.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/pbs-dna-dershowitz-kushner-kline.png?ssl=1&w=450

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It looks good, but the print is too small to be readable.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Yes, thank you for letting me. I have been responding to that guy at Robert’s blog, I wonder how long Robert will take so much of my comments – which crushes his lifelong beliefs of being from Palestine. These dna results are so powerful.

                        https://i0.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/pbs-dna-dershowitz-kushner-kline2.png?ssl=1&w=900

                        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/writingfromtheedge/8220omg_i8217ve_just_renounced_my_right_to_jewish_national_self_determination8221/#comment-3053713356

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I can’t help you here. I don’t know anything about Twiter and Facebook, both of which I stay away from.

                        You might try Tapatio. I think he would be very interested in what you are doing.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        No, I am sorry, you misunderstood me. What I meant to say was that if I posted them, just as I have done with you, then they will come back and put a challenge by saying how would they know these twitter statements are accurate or legit, that anybody with an agenda (not a Jew) could have posted them, that is what they will say? For that reason, I cannot post them. I just shared them with you to show you that the evidence is out there.

                        Tapatio: How is he doing? I have not visited that blog in ages. Perhaps I will now? Is he still fighting with -whatever his name-?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Yep, he still fighting with Wherry. I think it’s funny. They really hate each other.

                        But they don’t fight on every thread. If you want to avoid the unpleasantness, you could contact him on one of those threads where he comment, while Wherry is absent.

                        Why be concerned over the usual Zionist impeachment? Let’em howl!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Dustin Hoffman accepted being a Jew at age 80 – and only when he was shown his family history by PBS? I read another article where he said he felt the need to hide his Jewishness because he said Jews are so hated. He had no choice but to appear at the PBS show (finding your roots) because they already had dug up all the information they needed that he was in fact a Jew. Then he sobbed – and only after PBS exposed him did he say: “I am a Jew”. What kind of people are they that for 80 longs years, he carried the shame of being a Jew? Now I am beginning to understand why Bill Maher would agree to be interviewed at the PBS program since he had always denied being a Jew. They had also unearthed his family history. The way it works is that the PBS group first dig up all the information they need on a person such as Maher. Then they contact them to appear at the show. Too late to deny it. Exposed! That was also the reason the others were willing to appear on the show, because their roots were already exposed. Can you ever imagine Dershowitz ever agreeing to exposing himself as having 99% European genes? He would never. It was only after the fact, after being contacted with the info that was already unearthed about his family history. Same with the rest. Remember when I shared the PBS link with you a long time ago and you said it was fake? I agreed, because I begun to wonder why on earth would Dershowitz agree to the most devastating news ever for him – being 99% European? Now I know the reason: because it was already out there – and he had no choice – and the program also allowed him to peddle the holocaust.

                        So much else to share with you – but I do not want to inundate you with too much all at once.

                        https://www.thejc.com/culture/interviews/dustin-hoffman-finally-i-can-say-i-m-jewish-1.1818

                        http://www.timesofisrael.com/dustin-hoffman-finally-meets-his-jewish-roots/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I think that’s kind of sad. I’ve known a lot of people of Jewish blood without them suffering so much drama over it.

                        But I can see that certain neighborhoods would have a lot more anti-Jewish feeling. All it would take is one Jewish bankster foreclosing on people’s homes by fraud and trickery. That can mean a lot of people hurt and talking about it.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Ok, except that there is no ‘Jewish blood’.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Oh my! I’ll have to change that. It’s amazing how certain expressions from early experience can hook in later.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Remember this from a few months back? Robert used the word ‘biologic’ twice, he is speaking of dna. Imagine if I had those charts then! I would have demolished him to a thousand pieces. Since this is how he thinks, I think reading my comments might be a big slap on his face. I doubt the he will let me to continue commenting – now that I have those charts.

                        Reading the comments now was painful for me, because I kept saying:
                        If only I had those dna charts. Remember that article ‘Are Jews white’ came online not too long ago – if only I had those charts. For me, my commenting history is changed. I will only introduce those charts. Not one person has come forward to deny they are real.
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                        Robert Cohen Helen4Yemen • 3 months ago
                        Hi Helen, I understand the point you are making. I agree that Europran Jews did not have the ‘right’ to ‘return’ to Palestine and displace through a settler-colonial project the indigenous Palestinian people. However, I think the biological story of the Jews is more complex than you suggest. I use the word ‘diaspora’ to acknowledge a common identity and connection between Jewish communities around the world. The common connection is real both religiously and biologically for Ashkanazi Jews and the jury seems to be out on how much of our DNA can be traced back to the Middle East. There’s evidence to show today’s Palestinians and Jews share some common ancestry. Thanks for reading my posts and for your comments.

                        http://www.patheos.com/blogs/writingfromtheedge/2016/09/settlement-boycotts-calling-time-on-the-hypocrisy-of-our-jewish-leadership/?repeat=w3tc

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        He’s trying to play both sides of the road, especially with that weird way of defining ‘diaspora’. Don’t let him get away with it!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I think with the dna charts, my job has been simplified. I have seen some comments where it was said that ‘98% Ashkenazi’ meant
                        ‘Ashkenazi-Levant’. Haha. How they tried to string these two words together? No ‘Levant’ or ME or N-Africa or Mediterranean for them. How can they forget that the Ashkenazi dna is clearly marked on the map of Europe? That is why nobody would dare touch those dna tests. Also interesting that we heard lots of talk about dna-this and dna-that but nobody ever posted what their fake dna looks like. They are done with these dna charts – cooked! Even Dershowitz arrived at the BPS office limping knowing his dna result for can only bring humiliation to him at 99.9% European – but had no choice.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I wonder if he will take the bait and respond … haha …

                        http://disq.us/p/1eifrqn

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        You have no idea how angry I am getting when I see everybody run away from my new dna charts. I was hoping he would challenge me on the Dershowitz dna but he simply vanished! I think that is what I would expect from here on.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Helen! You’ve got a challenge: how much grief can you give them before they fight back!

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Maybe you can substitute Potbellied-pig for Ashkenazi in one of your genetic charts to lure them in.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I am eagerly awaiting the next article on Palestine – and see what happens.

                        I can’t wait. I wonder, I wonder, how they will respond? What can they possibly say?

                        You already know that I posted it at Richard’s blog, he has remained quiet. How can

                        anyone say that one whose dna is 99.9% European and 0% ME that his origin is ME?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I am getting desperate for any place to post my dna images. But b/c MEMO does not allow images, I just created the data and posted it. I wonder how Peepsqeek will respond. I am dying to know what he will say. For a long time, he talked about dna. And now?

                        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/middleeastmnt/bds_has_made_major_advances_in_2016/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I think I understand. You put a lot of work into that tool and polishing for use. You may be to trap them into letting you use it. Lure them first into bringing up genetics and then clobbering them with what you’ve got.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I cannot tell you how bad I feel now. Peepsqeek was responding to me even when I was ignoring him but today – he did not want to touch the dna stuff with a 100 feet pole. Wow! You see, it is there in bold, and he did not take the bait. Wow!

                        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/middleeastmnt/bds_has_made_major_advances_in_2016/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I’ve asked him a question:

                        Do you believe that DNA data shows that Ashkenazi are from the Middle East?

                        If he responds to me, then you can answer to him.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        He dodged it! Completely!

                        http://disq.us/p/1eix4nt

                        I’ve shoved it at him again.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Oh my, it looks like only Tapatio and Wherry are left alone to fight it out.
                        I wonder how Wherry can dispute my dna charts – even if he would try.

                        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/mintpressnews/assad_all_western_aid_for_syria_sent_to_terrorist_groups_not_civilians/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Why don’t you say hello to Wherry? Point out your DNA charts?

                        But seriously, I think you did enough just leaving those charts out there for him to catch later.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Say hi to Wherry? I might as well say hi to an insect – seriously! I despise him!
                        ____
                        My friend: can you help me with this question. Look at the maps from PBS.
                        I have also created a new image where I enlarged the part of Europe where PBS has designated as ‘Ashkenazi dna’.

                        For Dershowitz, a portion of Europe is shown in Green, for Carol Kline in blue, for Kushner light blue. My question is: is that area exclusively ‘Ashkenazi’? Do other Europeans also fall on that specific region? What part of Europe is it? It looks to me like West Europe but I thought the Ashkenazi originate in E. Europe. I am also learning that designating Ashkenazi dna as ‘Ashkenazi’ is a new method whereas earlier dna studies just showed them as Europe.

                        P.s. I really would appreciate your assistance in this matter.
                        https://i0.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/ash.png?ssl=1&w=900

                        http://www.pbs.org/weta/finding-your-roots/blog/ashkenazi-jewish-dna-potential-piece-together-shattered-family-branches/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        In each map the area you specify mostly overlaps Poland, which has traditionally been considered part of Eastern Europe. Current Germany and Switzerland are considered Central Europe.

                        I think the Ashkenazi region was arbitrarily chosen. It should include most of European Russia.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Thank you. The question that still remains unanswered is if non-Jew Europeans also fall on that specific area. I will address my questions to PBS and 23andMe and see what they say. But the reason why they have ‘Ashkenazi dna’ is because it is different from other Europeans’ dna.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Oh, the non-Jew Europeans certainly fall over that area too. Ashkenazi were a decided minority in those parts. The reason for Ashkenazi DNA being distinguishable from European DNA is low interbreeding.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I cannot access Disqus Inbox. Can you?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I don’t understand what you mean.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Oh, I think I understand what you mean. After looking at a message, you click the Inbox, DISQUS just hangs. There’s a bug DISQUS that spins it some kind of loop. Similar bugs show up in other software. probably an unanticipated situation.

                        What you do is right click on the tab (or the page) and chose ‘Reload tab’ at the top of the option list. That will pull you away from the loop and let you go back into the Inbox.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        This is what I am getting

                        https://a.disquscdn.com/next/62f36fc/home/img/Pam_Error.png
                        Darn it!
                        Something went wrong while trying to load this feed. Try again in a little while.
                        Please visit Discuss Disqus to learn more.

                        https://disqus.com/home/inbox/This is what I am getting

                        https://a.disquscdn.com/next/62f36fc/home/img/Pam_Error.png
                        Darn it!
                        Something went wrong while trying to load this feed. Try again in a little while.
                        Please visit Discuss Disqus to learn more.

                        https://disqus.com/home/inbox/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It looks to me like there’s something wrong on the internet pathway, some data is being corrupted so the message received violates protocol. But I really don’t know. That’s an area where I have only very sketchy knowledge.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Hi, testing – something is going on my Disqus – I suspect maybe due to the DNA charts

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Same prob. tsting

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Problem somewhat relieved. DISQUS is responding, but slowly

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I am still getting the same problem – testing now

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Still very slow here.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Something is going on with Disqus. I keep getting one incoming notice and when I click, I keep getting your last one:
                        __
                        “TecumsehUnfaced 2 hours ago
                        Problem somewhat relieved. DISQUS is responding, but slowly
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                        I keep trying but no one has come forward to deny the 99.9% dna. Amazing! It simply means they know what their dna is like while they post online claiming to be indigenous to Palestine. Amazing

                        https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/david-friedman-trump-embassy-israel/510905/?utm_source=feed

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I’m okay right now, including the Atlantic. Did you try shutting down your mail service completely, the bringing back up say, 20 seconds later, after everything gets a chance to reset?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        This is using the reply service from inside DISQUS at the bottom of the the new comment page.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        You do notice that I did not present my dna charts – because I wanted first to lure them in – but they do not seem to bite. No one person has challenged my 99.9% dna. Amazing! It means they have always known.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I thought that was what you were doing. It was certainly worth trying. Their not biting was illuminating too. Besides knowing about your DNA charts, we also know that they know their reports by such guys as Ostrer and Skorecki are unsound too.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Can you please reply to this one to see if I am getting new comments. I keep getting just 1 notice of incoming comment and when I click it kept bringing me to this one -yours-
                        ___
                        I have failed – totally failed – to have anyone challenge my 99.9% Ashenazi dna.
                        I wonder if anyone would … we shall see .

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        This is in response to request to see if you are getting new messages. My new messages were shut down for nearly a day before I rebooted the mail server.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I did not have to reboot anything, it came back on its own.
                        Have you noticed not one person is challenging the dna figues of 99.9%?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I think the hasbara have well-connected troops.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Whew! I sent you the following message at the wrong place (Atlantic) and quickly changed it.
                        __
                        This is one of the better charts where it shows the Ashkenazi dna Europe.

                        Nobody is challenging me on the 99.9% because they know their dna as they were peddling their lies. Amazing not one came forward to say ‘prove it’.

                        http://www.shinyshiny.tv/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/jewish.png

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I saw. You got it fixed quickly, You comment was 2 minutes old when I got there, and it had already changed.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Yes, I like that. That’s something you can deliver with a real snap.

                        Did you create that from your charts? Or did you go to their web site to make sure you caught all the classifications? For example, one thing I wonder about is how the Basques would be classified. They are unrelated to the people around, and I seem to remember that no one knows where they came from.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        “Yes, I like that. That’s something you can deliver with a real snap.”

                        Hahaha! I do not get to laugh a lot, but I did with your message above. Thank you for making me laugh. Oh, do I have so much ready for them. These dna charts have now changed the course of history. They have become so timid now, everything has changed since these dna charts emerged (and I have saved so much more) .

                        Peepsqeek: “I am sure that some have the DNA your are looking for and others do not.”

                        Amazing admission. He would have never admitted to anything about Ashkenazi race. He fought hard for so long and now he fell tumbling down. This is something he would never have said. These dna charts have totally humbled these predators. Not one of them is challenging it. All of them are looking for the exit. Anyone I responded at length to the Peepsqeek. There is no more of his arrogance, these dna charts have deflated them. They are finished! They could challenge the genetic diseases, the side-by-side images, but they cannot deal with these dna charts. Impossible! Amazing! Gone is their arrogance now replaced with fear and worry. Amazing.

                        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/middleeastmnt/bds_has_made_major_advances_in_2016/

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                        I typed the the document I sent you and I got the info from the 3rd link below

                        https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/

                        https://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2014/03/26/the-faces-behind-ancestrydnas-ethnicity-regions/ (wow! this one has ‘European Jewish”

                        https://www.23andme.com/ancestry-composition-guide/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I copied your answer to Peepie under the rubric of Helen’s Answer to Nonsense. It seems like that I will save time using it as a resource to deal with Zionists later.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        It is over! For the first time, I see them being humbled, deflated. No way to counter dna. I will go over that site and demolish him to.
                        (the reason I am responding to them so late is because I did not see your message due to the problem with disqus incoming comments)

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Please be careful. These people are extraordinarily dangerous (as you already know). I think your idea of working through bloggers is a good idea. it will blur their focus.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        The file you passed me, https://www.23andme.com/ancestry-composition-guide/, was very helpful. Their technology for their genetic ancestry service seems very valid for the price they charge.

                        They explain that their accuracy will grow greater with time and the increasing number of samples they have, on which to base their calculations.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        My disqus incoming just went away – meaning that unless I come here, I have no way of knowing what comments you are sending- but keep sending them and I will do likewise – when it is up again, we will receive them. I have no idea what is going on – I am thinking due to the dna charts – perhaps I am being paranoid.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        You could try what I’ve done before a couple of times to set up an alternative email: do a search on “email service”, check the latest reports on which ones are preferable and why, choose one, and set up an alternative email account, the set up an alternative DISQUS account. It’s tricky at places, but I don’t remember too clearly since it’s at least 4 years, since I did.

                        But if you keep having problems periodically like today, it would give you an extra resource to work around it.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Yes, the comments are indeed interesting. Have you check out Alison Weir? She Jewish, but the Zionists hate her, and smear her relentlessly.

                        How did land ownership traditionally work in Palestine and when did it change?

                        “[The Ottoman Land Code of 1858] required the registration in the name of individual owners of agricultural land, most of which had never previously been registered and which had formerly been treated according to traditional forms of land tenure, in the hill areas of Palestine generally masha’a, or communal usufruct. The new law meant that for the first time a peasant could be deprived not of title to his land, which he had rarely held before, but rather of the right to live on it, cultivate it and pass it on to his heirs, which had formerly been inalienable…Under the provisions of the 1858 law, communal rights of tenure were often ignored…Instead, members of the upper classes, adept at manipulating or circumventing the legal process, registered large areas of land as theirs…The fellahin [peasants] naturally considered the land to be theirs, and often discovered that they had ceased to be the legal owners only when the land was sold to Jewish settlers by an absentee landlord…Not only was the land being purchased; its Arab cultivators were being dispossessed and replaced by foreigners who had overt political objectives in Palestine.” Rashid Khalidi, “Blaming The Victims,” ed. Said and Hitchens.”.

                        http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        COUNTRY 1948 – 1958 – 1968 – 1976 –

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I had removed The Hill from my watch list – perhaps I should not have. will now start to comment here too

                        http://thehill.com/homenews/house/310848-trump-pick-signals-sharp-shift-on-israel

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Maybe a little late to comment here – but I will try to leave a few comments

                        http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/310745-david-friedman-will-shine-as-trumps-ambassador-to

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Shmuley Boteach? He is one of the most repulsive frauds I’ve ever seen.

                        I’ll take a look.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Haha! I am laughing, because, I almost never read the articles.
                        I know who he is, he is just like Dershowitz.

                        I have no idea why I can’t access my disqus inbox … but I still can manage without it.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Wow! It went through! I have been getting a message:
                        “Oops! We’re having trouble posting your comment.
                        Check your internet connection and try again.”
                        And my internet was working fine – first time I get this sort of message.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I get this too on rare occasion, when there are other signs that the Internet is very busy. Maybe someone is using bit torrent, maybe something else, I don’t know. But it usually passes in less than 5 minutes.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Let’s home you get this one – testing

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Got it! But it’s ridiculously slow. There’s a major roadblock some place. Maybe DISQUS

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Maybe DISQUS is under attack.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Communications with other sites through DISQUS are slow too, but nowhere as much.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        My friend: since we are friends, I want to share this link with you and you may want to share it with Tapatio. I had found another great link about using bold font, but I can’t find it. I think it happens to be true that bold should be used only to highlight a heading – or some one-line text that you want to draw attention to – but applied to an entire paragraph makes it less readable. I always skip over bold-text – always. I have even gone back to my comments and replaced one-line bold text with italic. But of course, the choice is yours.

                        http://overthinkingdesign.com/2014/08/when-to-use-bold-text/

                        _____

                        Do you notice? The game is over! No more are they jumping up and down with arrogance – they are totally crushed with this dna stuff. You remember that guy I was referring to as ‘Mr. xyz’? We had many email exchanges where he was trying to establish that he had links to Palestine. Had I known of these dna charts then, the email exchange would have stopped immediately, because how could he counter dna? Same with Robert. He was an still is saying ‘Jews’ have links to Palestine – but wait till Robert says that again and I splash my dna charts. He can only hide. Just amazing the power that I now feel with these dna charts.

                        ____
                        I now cannot access my disqus incoming comments, can you? It is giving me this:

                        “Darn it! Something went wrong while trying to load this feed.
                        Try again in a little while. Please visit Discuss Disqus to learn more.”

                        https://disqus.com/home/inbox/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I think the overload hits sections of the network before it hits the whole network, You’re probably experiencing overload earlier today.

                        For me, so far, so good. but let’s see what happens with this message back to you.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Thanks for that overthinkingdesign file. Iread it. it’s good. I added it to my tool library.

                        Yes, there is definitely a slow down at this end.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Peepie is still begging me to stomp on him. I think he’s trying to wear out my shoes.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        You see, I am only reading your comments now.
                        Please let me know next time he surfaces –

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Hello, are you blocked on your communications. Note that mine are okay, unless I communicate with you. Then it slows down a lot. Something must not be right with your section of the Internet.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Yes, I remained unable to access my incoming comments. It is working now and I just got this message of 3 hrs ago just now. I have no idea. My interest is actual quite fast.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Good!

                        But response here connecting to you is still a little slow.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        That is so interesting … that you can connect to others at normal rate and to me at a slower rate … I have no idea, but I was thinking the reason could be some deliberate interference.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        That is entirely reasonable too. I’m sure that the ZioNazi hackers have plenty of slack, since they don’t have to hack the DNC anymore.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Oh, oh, they came up with a brand new excuse, oh, oh

                        “The DNA tests you refer to are maternal only. The paternal genes are all ME.”

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It’s amazing how naturally they slide from total BS to total BS. Now you can use

                        https://www.23andme.com/ancestry-composition-guide/

                        to encircle them again with another set of bear traps.

                        Oh, torturing these creeps with truth can be such fun!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Thank you and I always do appreciate your support.

                        I will now use the link you gave to respond to him.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Haha! Here is another one! They cannot produce one dna of an Ashkenazi with less than 99% European – therefore, he fabricated a tale:
                        ___
                        “The DNA testing I believe you are referring to here is based on the latest commercial trend in DNA testing, which uses autosomal testing. I would not use this as right now it is good mostly for tracing ancestral relationships back a few generations. It’s limited beyond that (complicated reasons as to why) and is much more inaccurate as to matching nationality and/or ethnicity than the companies will tell you (actually they do but it is in the fine print). You can take the same test with different companies and get very different answers. And I know my family lineage as both sides of my family have lived in the same islands off the coast of Europe for at least a thousand years. So I would not waste the money on such a test.”

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Hilarious! They don’t have their stories straight. Even our mentally retarded police know to do that before opening their months in public.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I am unable to access incoming comments – I have no doubt it is deliberate, how to contact disqus?

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        The best I can tell you right now is to try this:

                        https://disqus.com/support/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Another thing you can do is go to your DISQUS profile, choose “Channels” and subscribe to the one that says, “Discuss DISQUS”. Maybe there will be a discussion there helpful to solving your problem.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Thanks for letting me know, but I’m not up to trying nail this ever mendacious peep of a greased pig right now.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        What is amazing is that he can no longer say the Ashkenazi are from Palestine. He is now saying if other Europeans colonized US, Canada, etc. but gone are the days when he could say they are ‘returning.

                        something is going on with my incoming comments . it stops me from accessing them for many hours and then I get access to it now and then. Something weird

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Did you get my message about trying this yet?

                        https://disqus.com/support/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Here is something you might want to keep for reference, and read when you have time.

                        How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations
                        Glenn Greenwald February 24 2014

                        One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction. It’s time to tell a chunk of that story, complete with the relevant documents.

                        Over the last several weeks, I worked with NBC News to publish a series of articles about “dirty trick” tactics used by GCHQ’s previously secret unit, JTRIG (Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group). These were based on four classified GCHQ documents presented to the NSA and the other three partners in the English-speaking “Five Eyes” alliance. Today, we at the Intercept are publishing another new JTRIG document, in full, entitled “The Art of Deception: Training for Online Covert Operations.”

                        https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/?comments=1#comments

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Remember CPT_ . He has no idea that I have come with these new dna charts since I last had exchanges with him. He is still stuck at that Atlantic article (Are Jews white) and he posted like 10-20 comments to me today – even after I told him he was blocked. I guess I will now visit that article and post some of my new discovery and SHOCK him.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I see!

                        They you destroyed everything this ‘Charles Bohbot’ claimed to Robert. You forced him to retreat from or modify everything he said, Then destroyed him again. I see that you haven’t responded to his second flailing attempt at recovery. I was tempted to step in and answer to his weak response. But then I figured it was you who got him in that position, so rightly it’s you who should decide how he should continue to collapse.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I could only find this short video by those who did those dna charts at PBS

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B4d_0gqumA

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Look at this comment from the link that I sent you earlier today – just amazing:
                        __
                        Just Middle Eastern • 4 years ago
                        I am an Ashkenazi Jew who had his DNA tested. Both sides of my family came from Germany. The results showed my DNA to be 100% Middle Eastern, 79% Jewish and 21% Palestinian or Bedouin. In other words 21% of my DNA is shared also by the modern-day population which calls itself “Palestinian”, indicating we had common ancestors in ancient times; I would guess Canaanites. My “cousins” are all Jewish or people who had a Jewish ancestor. It will be interesting when Levatine Arabs join the database to see if I find “cousins” listed from that group.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        You’re right. That’s a lulu! According to that, the writer has more DNA in common with chimpanzees than other people.

            • Helen4Yemen
      • tapatio

        Israel and Zionism were spawned by what is now the Rothschild-Bilderberg cartel of predatory capitalists. They also control America’sbanking, economy, media, industry, and entertainment industry. Their “mafia” dwarfs anything the Italian Mafia ever dreamed of, involved in everything from pot sales to murder for the black market body parts industry.

        Below is the Rothschild-Bilderberg Predatory Capitalist Cartel – at the root of the corruption that has taken control of our country, its government, media and commerce. Until that corruption is rooted out and eradicated, America will continue to sicken and, eventually, die.
        These same Rothschilds, that hold controlling interest in the Federal Reserve today, also were patrons of Karl Marx and directed-financed the Bolshevik-Communist “revolution”. That one family name has been connected to more death and horror, over the last 300 years, than ALL other causes combined. The Rothschilds are, of course, Jewish.

        Rothschild Bank
        New Court
        St Swithin’s Lane
        London EC4N 8AL
        United Kingdom

        http://humansarefree.com/2013/11/complete-list-of-banks-ownedcontrolled.html

        (note: The list linked above includes only Central Banks in which the Rothschild/Bilderberg Cartel holds controlling interest. They also hold controlling interest in virtually every major
        commercial and investment bank on Earth)

        Rothschild History
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WfqdcnjvlA

        JFK and the Federal Reserve
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sJzPDOUvZE

        https://ia800308.us.archive.org/30/items/CreatureFromJekyllIslandByG.Edward-G.EdwardGriffin/CreatureFromJekyllIslandByG.Edward-G.EdwardGriffin.pdf

        http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-the-eight-families/25080

        https://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/james_madison-moneychangers_banksters_control_of_government_by_controlling_money.jpg

        http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Nathan-Rothschild-and-famed-quote.jpg

        https://firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/why-the-jews-killed-jesus-jesus-jews-lulz-religion-1344086402.jpg?w=590

        http://shakeandwakeradio.com/1963-JFK.jpg

        *************

        http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/956/598/d36.jpg

        The cartoons in this post are not
        “racist” because they are accurate caricatures of Jacob Rothschild
        and the star of david is the icon of Zionism – a political movement.

        Obama, Netanyahu, Trotsky, David Cameron, Hillary Clinton, Theodore Herzl, ben Gurion and Begin………..ALL are/were nothing but tools of the Rothschild/Bilderberg Cartel, heir to the money changers Jesus is said to have driven from the temple, days before Pilate was blackmailed into executing him – just as JFK was assassinated shortly after launching his project to abolish the Federal Reserve, the Rothschild/Bilderberg Cartel’s most profitable holding.

    • Joe Giron

      Those congress men and senators are traitors,

    • Aer O’Head

      It would be nice if the NSA would inform American citizens exactly which CongressCritters are representing U.S. interests … and which are representing foreign interests. There are more than a few in Congress who should rightfully be standing in line to get Jonathan Pollard’s vacated cell.

      • tapatio

        At present, you can figure that there’s an 85% probability that any given member of the House or Senate is a representative of the Rothschild Bank and/or Israel and couldn’t give a rat’s tushy what you want.

    • TecumsehUnfaced

      Why should we be the least bit surprised? From even before their first assault on Palestine, the Zionists have been vampires wherever they go. Those of our so-called “elected representatives” that serve them are vampires feeding on us also. We need wooden stakes and minds too educated and perceptive to be taken by the mendacious cunning of the Zionist con game.

      • INFOSWORD

        good reply

      • tapatio

        Very good comment.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          TU

          • tapatio

            YW

          • Helen4Yemen

            I am now using an old article from Mintpress, b/c/ I noticed the other place (not naming)
            had deleted my comment to you of yesterday. The guy ArdRigh is a very angry person, look at this comment lashing out at another. http://disq.us/p/1e7cc1b

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              Smart move coming here!

              Now that I have had time to cool down, I can sympathize with him a little bit. There is certainly a lot to be angry about, so much unnecessary suffering caused by power-greed of the ruling vampires.

              Sometimes, I wish I had been born rich, so that I would have some of the financial substance to engineer remedial change. But then I recognize from the way I bought so many bum steers presented to me growing up, that I would be just like them, hollow without knowing it.

              • Helen4Yemen

                He never responded to me even though I replied to his, very unusual, it almost never happened, because my comments are angry. But I still do not like his lashing out – no need for that. But the bottom line is that it was not you he was angry at but almost everyone else.

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  Your conduct was such that he had no reason to abuse you and no way of excusing it to himself.

              • Helen4Yemen

                Look at this guy, his logic about his ‘Israel’ is just like the rest – I had to tell him had enough and not interested in further exchanges

                https://disqus.com/by/NorthSure/

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  Yep! i didn’t want to engage him either.

                  • Helen4Yemen

                    How I hated that woman! But look at her now. In 3 weeks, she looks like a different person, her hair is now all ‘white’ or grey, her face was golden brown then and now no color. I could not help to see so much transformation. And how can her hair grow that long in just 3 weeks unless what she had on was a wig. (please reply when you see this b/c I want to delete it.

                    https://i2.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/hillary-45.png?ssl=1&w=450

                    • TecumsehUnfaced

                      It’s almost as if she stopped taking mean pills. During the campaign she usually looked demonic to me, like in the picture on the left.

                      I think the hair may just rearranged. Note how the hair in the picture on the left is swept rigidly to the sides and how the hair is also rigidly swept and curled in the back. But you probably know more about this than I do.

                      Thanks for sharing.