VIDEO: The Function Of Police In Modern Society: Peace Or Control?

Scholar Sam Mitrani says the police were created to restrain the working class and the poor.
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    • OOOOSICKSIDEBURNS

      3914 words later and still nothing but speculation, racism, hypocrisy and name calling. And that’s only about this thread! If you guess who this pertains to and are correct- you get the satisfaction of knowing you aren’t a jackass!

    • Dom

      Liberal idiots……

    • sidney49

      The communist use bribes, death threats and murder to accomplish their goals.

    • Sen

      .the thing about history facts is you can pick and chose… On the clash in Chicago between officers and protestors a lot of people died – On May 4, 1886, Chicago In Haymaker Square. When officers try to disperse the crowd of protestors crowd, they throw a bomb and it explodes in the midst of the police. ******Eight officers die and 59 are wounded as a result of the bombing and ensuing gun battle between the police and protestors.
      Between 1920-1939
      More than *******40 percent of all Chicago Police Officers killed in the line or performance of duty were killed during this era.
      1968
      During the Democratic National Convention. Several protesters arrive in Chicago with the express purpose of creating disturbances and disruption. Officers respond and clashes occur, leading to 668 arrests and negative media coverage for Chicago and the Department. ******There were 192 officers injured, of whom 49 required hospitalization. Fortunately, no one was killed.
      I guess that’s just how you make people hear you blow things up and kill people.

    • melanie adams

      when i read one of his diatribes, all of a sudden all i could hear was charlie brown’s teacher! he’s just here to troll anyway, and he’s NEVER going to listen to anything anyone on here has to say. in fact, i suspect he’s one of those people that while someone else is expressing an opinion, he’s just thinking about what he’s going to say next. blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah

    • Biggest Balls

      Hey Scott relax before your angry brain hemorrhages. I don’t believe whole heartedly in either SIDE of the SAME FUCKIN COIN. So CALM THE F DOWN and realize you’re angry and your generalizing and you’re taking things too personally. My father was a homicide detective in NYC and he was in the Air Force… but I still managed to wake him up to the manipulative oppressive system of greedy self serving sociopath elites running this WHOLE GOD DAMNED WORLD.

    • Cheryl Trulove

      So I have a Story for Everyone. How about All of the Murders that the PD either Mishandle or Cover Up. Has ANYONE EVER taken on that subject. Well if you are not Afraid to step up try helping The Archangels of Justice take on the Police and the Justice System system.

    • Suzy Yeaton

      Wow. What’s with this guy Scott? Sounds like his head is in the sand.

    • gun_clutcher

      So Mr. Mitrani believes in a volunteer policing system much like volunteer fire depts? Doesn’t sound all that practical does it? So looks like we need to abolish all the police depts here in the states…yeah that’s the ticket. Any time you’re looking for the bottom line solution to the country’s problems consult a college professor…whew..

    • Sam Moffie

      The uber rich never want to be poor. Its that simple.

    • Ky Belser

      As Romans 13 says police are put there by GOD almighty. If you will read it as I hope every one has of will, no one has any cause to fear them at all unless they ” do evil” . Obviously some ôf you do not believe in the Bible Or GOD but logic would dictate that this axiom is true in at least in modern western countries. ( remember that Paul wrote this in the time of great persecution of Nero which I admit is a mystery to me but I choose not to rebel against the word of GOD) . If there was no ” evil” there would be no need for police . The main people In this country any more who complain about police are those who have a propensity of breaking the law, have family members who do, have, or are constantly breaking the law, or the cry baby who gets a ticket and says ” Don’t you have something more important to do?. There is no modern “racial animosity” on the part of police simply because their partners that they work with and depend on for their very lives are of every background. How ever if you deal with people every day who a vast majority of the time absolutely refuse to obey your lawfully directives and obviously have no respect for the law evidenced by their repeated fairly predictable actions as every one can see in videos , one eventually becomes able to reliably by experience and conditioning to at least expect certain things from certain people. If not, you might not even survive. I know that if I get pulled over , I put both hands where the officer can see them. I am pleasant and do exactly what they might instruct me to do. That is the correct way to respond and interact with them. The situation will very predictably end in a peaceful outcome. The other end of the spectrum a very disrespectful person with a chip on their shoulder who is antagonistic, militant ,refuses to abide by any directives ( which by the way turn the stress level down preportionally as you follow them) , run away , fight etc etc etc . One after another video shows those who doing opposite from what the officers clearly and plainly tell them to do. In every single instance of the last several times people were shot by police , the person very very clearly refused to do what the officer told him to do and became a clear and present danger or what any reasonable person would agree if they were the officer to be so. Also in the back ground are seen and heard people who are interfering with and severely complicating the situation further endangering the officer which would infuriate you if you were that officer’s relative or friend. I have written this to both counter this rediculous falacious underlying argument that there is some sort of overall conspiracy by police to subjigate and oppress a certain group of people and to show that the very basis of the protests of late are a conspiracy of lies to further several agendas much too complex to even try to discus shot of writing a book or thesis. I will say that the first person who was seen in this video making these outrageous claims is either a silly moron who has never experienced any real world interaction with any of the group’s referenced or that he is part of an anarchist consortium bent on destroying the credibility and respect for the very organization tasked with the very protection of society from those who would destroy it and possibly our form of government itself .

    • Citizen4liberty

      Getting rid of the police state isn’t going to happen. I saw and thought about the issue before I even had a license. I still believe the only way to make it fair is no quotas no bonus unless for saving a life! No department profit, no fines, no business aspect of any kind. The salaries paid by the city. All police arrest and activities should be approved and held accountable to a rotating civilian committee, same as random jury selection!

    • David A .Hereaux

      Should The Mice Vote For The Cats?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rICTQy5C6c

    • David A .Hereaux

      We aren’t going anywhere if we still have the same people in high government.

      Christopher W. Spada for President in 2016

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBXYVgTTjDY

    • cj1404

      After reading the posts I see your point Harry.

    • Lisa Stilo Playing

      Who’s toes did he step on????

    • Harry

      Ladies and gentleman, it’s obvious based on these posts, that this person Scott, is completely ignorant to reality. There’s nothing you or I can say that would wake him up from his competed ignorant perspective. Please don’t waste your time going back and forth with such ignorance. Your time and efforts can surely be used elsewhere to make change and difference to a system that has flaws and can use good role to make some positive changes. I’m sure he will respond to this message in ignorance as well. I will ignore and move on just as others should.

      • Barbara Brown

        Good plan Harry, I think I am tired of Scott’s ignorance for today. Maybe I will try to help him understand another time but I am not some unemployed hack that has nothing to do all day but spew propaganda as he does. Signing off! Have a great weekend and be safe everyone.

        • Scott McIntosh

          Oh look the Liberal morons banded together and decided they couldn’t deal with arguments that make sense. Typical.

          • Suzy Yeaton

            You can thank the liberals for the public streets and freeways you drive. Are you seriously this ignorant? You appear very foolish. You should really stop before you make a complete ass of yourself.

            • Scott McIntosh

              Now, that is a bunch of bull for sure! It’s the Liberals that impede progress by over-worrying about the environment instead of building infrastructure! You are the one that is foolish and have succeeded in making a TOTAL ass of yourself, Liberalism is a disease.

              • OOOOSICKSIDEBURNS

                You can’t have progress without an environment that is inhabitable. Stupidity should be painful, maybe then you wouldn’t enjoy pulling all this bullshizz out of your a$$!!

            • Scott McIntosh

              You mint press folks really drink the kool aid don’t you? Well enjoy YOUR Socialism because I will never adhere to it. I served in the military to fight communism and I’ll be damned if I accept it from you wimps. I will fight you if required.

              • HarryMoseby

                Uh, where exactly did you fight communism? Vietnam? Okay, uh…job well done!

                • Scott McIntosh

                  I served during the Cold War. Ronald Reagan outspent the communists and brought about the collapse of the Soviet Union. Where and when did you serve?

                  • HarryMoseby

                    I helped Ronald Reagan “outspend the Soviet Union.” You served during the Cold War, huh? In……?

                    • Scott McIntosh

                      USS New Jersey (BB-62) 1982-85, USS Truxtun (CGN-29) 1986-1989, USS Bunker Hill (CG-52) 1991. Four (4) WestPacs, Beirut, Lebanon 1983-84, First Gulf War.

                      • HarryMoseby

                        Okay, you win.

                      • HarryMoseby

                        And thank you for your service. (Sincerely.)

                      • Scott McIntosh

                        Thanks for yours!

                • Scott McIntosh

                  Try to come up with more intelligent argument than that please. :-/

                • Tallulah

                  There was NEVER a decisive battle lost by American solders in Vietnam. The war was DE-FUNDED by Congress and the military forced to come home. Followed shortly after by “The Killing Fields” of Cambodia. How’d that work out, Harry?

                • Beverley Davis

                  Yeah that mother f**!!! Johnson sent boys over there to die and you mock them? Think about it….if Kennedy wasn’t such a low life scumbag…there would have never been a Viet Nam.I hope he and Johnson spend a hundred years in hell for every life lost. And i know you must be griefstricken over this…but the USSR collapsed in the eighties. Just in case they didn’t teach that to you in school

                  • linda

                    hey hey lbj how many kids did you kill today.

                • Sue Prator

                  He fought the Red Army in China against Mao Tse Tung back in 1949….lol

            • Beverley Davis

              Eisenhower started the interstate system..Republican…. to improve commerce and getting from point A to point B. So you appear ignorant. Read a history book on commerce.

              • Kelly Campbell

                There were multiple reasons for the Interstate Highway system. In all honesty, I thought that the primary purpose of the system was for the national defense. Not so according to this article from the FHWA. Apparently the primary purpose was a “make work” program.

                http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/originalintent.cfm

                “Original Intent: Purpose of the Interstate System
                1954-1956
                by
                Richard F. Weingroff

                Federal Highway Administration In a July 1954 speech to the Governors’ Conference (forerunner of the National Governors Association), President Dwight D. Eisenhower asked for help in devising a Grand Plan for upgrading the Nation’s highways – Federal, State, and local. (Vice President Richard M. Nixon delivered the speech after a death in the family prevented the President from attending.) The President listed the problems to be overcome:

                Safety – an annual toll of nearly 40,000 killed and 1.3 million injured.
                Congestion – wastes billions of hours in detours and jams amounting to billions of dollars in productive time.
                Courts – civil suits related to traffic clog up our courts.
                Economy – bad roads nullify the efficiency in the production of goods by inefficiency in their transport.
                Defense – “the appalling inadequacies to meet the demands of catastrophe or defense, should an atomic war come.”

                Behind the scenes, one other factor influenced his thinking. Stephen E. Ambrose, in his biography of Eisenhower, cited the public reasons the President referred to, but added one factor:

                [It] was a public-works program on a massive scale, indeed the largest public-works program in history, which meant that the government could put millions of men to work without subjecting itself to the criticism that this was “make-work” of the [Depression-era] WPA or PWA variety. By tailoring expenditures for highways to the state of the economy, Eisenhower could use the program to flatten out the peaks and valleys in unemployment. [Ambrose, Stephen E., Eisenhower: Volume Two: The President, Simon and Schuster, 1984, p. 250.”

            • melanie adams

              too late.

          • Sue Prator

            What arguements that make sense? You are calling Barbara Brown “stupid”. What kind of a no class ass hat are you? You must be living in your Mom’s garage too long.

        • Scott McIntosh

          Help me understand how stupid you are? No thanks, I am not all interested in that!

      • MrsJAB

        Some people are too dumbed down to accept facts

        • Scott McIntosh

          You have NO facts.

      • Scott McIntosh

        You ignore and move on because you have nothing to say other than the same old tired Liberal BS message. So keep moving on.

        • Intruderart

          Cut the shit, Scott. Liberals tell the TRUTH. CONSERVATIVES FEED on.lies, you moron

          • Scott McIntosh

            Your the Kool Aid drinking moron. Like Obama, Reid and Pelosi have EVER told the truth? “You can keep your doctor”, “We will read it after we pass it.” You make me puke. You feed on the lies of ALL media and probably worship hollywood. Liberalism is a disease of the mind. Now go back to watching MSNBC you uneducated twit

            • Jack Trades

              Guys, Scott is a person who needs to have the last word. Take it away, Scott!

              • HumanWrites

                Scott:
                Trickle-down! …WMDs!! …Birth Certificate?!! …Death Panels?!!! …IRS!!!! …Benghazi?!!!! …Ebola?!!!!! …Did I mention Benghazi???? …Proud of my country, ashamed of Republicans.

            • Jack Trades

              Oh, did I mention Scott also is a person who needs to be right? You’re right, Scott!

            • Jack Trades

              Your arguments are so compelling, Scott! Would you be my attorney?

            • andrew tasker

              Scott, post some links to back up what you say, please.

            • Johnny Kareem Gagnon

              If you dug into yourself a little more for the complete truth you would find that your arrogance is the same as it was when you chose to be nothing more than a slave assassin for your many wealthy masters ….. and additives of bullshit bravado flavoring ego crap that made you feel a teeny weeny better than other working class peoples ………. but face it Scott , your not intelligent if you follow someones elses bullshit , especially if it’s just for a way from being known as a general work helper ….. most infantry are no more skilled than a general worker who are assassins trying to make their countrymen believe they are protecting them …… bullshit!

              • Scott McIntosh

                WTF are you talking about? I don’t answer to a master and my Beliefs are that Jesus Died for every ones Sins and the Founding Fathers created a document, called the Constitution, that is designed to make it so all legal Americans can freely pursue freedom as long as they don’t interfere with someone else’s. Blocking the highway? BUZZZ Illegal and violating other peoples right of freedom of movement. I also don’t rely on anything except Faith, my own intellect, resources, wit and the ability to make a living with a gift I was given. For the MOST part police are good an decent people who risk their lives but quite frankly I can defend myself and don’t rely on them very much. If you were robbed, kidnapped or raped the first thing you would do is to cry for help. If you heard someone cry for help and there was a chance you could die would you do it? No, you wouldn’t because you believe it’s all bullshit!

                • John William Bethell

                  You are full of crap Scott there is no such thing as god and the bible is just a book of fiction religion is for the people who cannot think for themselves. and I have helped police when they were outnumbered in a scrap when I was in the Army If I was robbed I would try to fix the problem myself I am not anti police but I think there are too many who have their own agendas

                  • Scott McIntosh

                    You are entitled to not believe so why push your Atheism on me? You see tolerance just means agreement to you, that is why. Oh and don’t worry, God still believes in you.

              • Scott McIntosh

                By the way, you are the one that is arrogant and stupid not I.

    • Marna Ehrech

      thank you for a great piece. We need this historical perspective.

      • Scott McIntosh

        Moron.

    • Marna Ehrech

      Thank you for the piece. Well done. We need this historical perspective.

      • Scott McIntosh

        When you repeat false statements it doesn’t make them true.

    • Mike7106

      The absolute only way to get America back on track is to break up the media meganopolies by regulation.

      • Scott McIntosh

        Oh yeah sure, get MORE government involved in the media? That is the stupidest idea I have heard.

        • Mike7106

          I’m guessing you never listen to what you say.

          • Scott McIntosh

            I am guessing no one listens to anything you say.

        • OOOOSICKSIDEBURNS

          You never go full retard

    • Scott McIntosh

      This is really lame. The only people that have police problems are the ones that are not obeying the law. If you don’t like the laws then contact your representatives in local, state and federal government and ask for them to be changed. There are two states that have legalized pot with more on the way and it’s STILL against federal law. How much more lawlessness do you want? Stay out of the effing street too and stop ILLEGALLY protesting. You try and block my way while I am on public freeways and streets and I will run your dumb ass over.

      • Charlene McHenry

        This statement is not true. I have personally experienced police brutality from our local law enforcement agency and I was not breaking any laws. I am a 58 year old, caucasian female living in Montgomery County, Texas.

        • Scott McIntosh

          Then take it up with them or hire a lawyer and sue them. Just because you have an issue doesn’t mean there is a systemic problem so yes my statement is still true.

          • Just Me

            Scott, what rock do you live under?

            • Scott McIntosh

              I have actually lived on quite a few places and traveled to over 130 countries. I have never had a problem with law enforcement because for the most part I obey the law. There are instances of Police brutality but I know they are not the norm. Mike Brown was a thug that assaulted a Police officer and got exactly what he deserved. So to answer your question, I am not the one under a rock you are. Do you live in a high crime area? Are you a criminal yourself? Hmmm, things to ponder…

              • kristine08

                You should be on the “no fly” list~

                • Scott McIntosh

                  You probably are on the no-fly list and you definitely were on the “I don’t want a list.” Why don’t you say something intelligent instead of insults? Oh yeah, I forgot you don’t have an effing brain.

            • kristine08

              Smells like pork~

              • Scott McIntosh

                I love bacon but no I am not a police officer.

          • MatthewCooke

            Scott there are 50,000 SWAT raids a year on mostly non-violent drug offenses. I would say that’s brutal overkill.

            And according to a Pew/USA Today poll conducted in August 2014, Americans of all races collectively “give relatively low marks to police departments around the country for holding officers accountable for misconduct, using the appropriate amount of force, and treating racial and ethnic groups equally.”

            • Scott McIntosh

              Maybe if the so-called “Hope and Change” Messiah in the white house would instruct DEA to declassify Marijuana as Schedule I drug (http://www.dea.gov/druginfo/ds.shtml) then the amount of SWAT arrests for drug related offenses would plummet? I live in a state-Washington where the voters voted for both Medical and Recreational use and it’s working fine here. The real problem are the thugs that are in the inner cities that want all the free stuff government is more than willing to provide in order to create more slaves like you morons. The REAL answer is to convince Washington to get the DEA to back off but guess what it will NEVER happen because there is too much money in drug enforcement for the DEA to give up. Get educated about real issues and stop listening to the media drone in your ear about police brutality. The police are enforcing laws and they place their lives at risk every day. I assume if you get pulled over for speeding that you are polite but if you are not then quite frankly a beat down is what you deserve.

              • MatthewCooke

                Two big points made, the first one I completely agree, the 2nd not at all:

                1) Agreed on declassifying Marijuana as Schedule I drug. All presidents democrat and republican since the 70s have been escalating the war on drugs. I would double down and vote to decriminalize all drugs (and allow harder ones consumed at clinics) or do something comparible to Portugal which is having great success.

                I think if we keep pushing on this issue you will find a lot of agreement in the liberal and conservative communities so lets stay together on this.

                2) I completely disagree that police should “beat people down”.That is the attitude of an authoritarian and completely anti-civil rights, anti civility. The job of the police is to keep the peace not escalate violence.

                The courts recently decided against police in a case where someone gave a cop the finger and was arrested for “disorderly conduct.” Free expression is a fundamental American right.

                Further, many police beat downs are not motivated at all. I can send you 100 links to video (not main stream media) evidence where civil rights are violated, mainly against minorities and this has nothing to do with the need for a social safety network for poorest minority communities that exist as a direct historical result of jim crow laws, racist real estate policies that have direct roots to the ending of the civil war.

                Slavery, Jim Crow, and lax civil rights protections in real estate markets have been devastating on African American communities. The crime ridden areas are like war zones with people experiencing PTSD and living in a world that is difficult for people who have not experienced it to imagine. Those communities need our help, not “stop n frisk” and a cycling back in to a criminal justice system which believes in punishment rather than rehabilitation and programs to foster change and healing. These are not lazy people who don’t want a way out and are gouging the taxpayers — that would be big banks and large corporations who steal millions of taxpayer dollars in amounts that actually matter.

                Having said that, I will not stoop to call you a moron – that would be disrespectful and counterproductive. But you do seem ill informed on this point. An erroneous point I see droning on and on all day on American’s main stream media network: FOX news.

                • Scott McIntosh

                  I disagree 100% with the decriminalization of all drugs! Quite frankly I think that is insane and “it works in Portugal” is not an adequate argument. Let Europe be Europe, we broke away for substantial reasons and believe me soon enough they will be clamoring for our help once again to ward of dire military threats.

                  Resisting arrest is NOT a Constitutional right. I don’t think flipping anybody the finger should be a crime. If a police officer is obstructed from the performance of his duties by someone that is not cooperating with legal searches, seizures and arrests in accordance with the 4th, 10th and 14th Amendments then that person should be subdued using appropriate force. The more they resist the more force that is applied. It is the same as in warfare. You must defeat the enemies will to fight and resist. Some of the shootings that have occurred I have not liked seeing and I personally believe that traffic cops specifically should used non-lethal means first if possible. There are however thousands of dead police officers because they hesitated.

                  Your mention of Fox News is yet more proof that you have no idea who I am, where I come from, what I have been through and how hard I work to have what I have. I will say it again, I do not watch the news AT ALL. Why listen to talking heads when I can read and draw my own conclusions?

                  You Sir, are at least not a moron.

                  • MatthewCooke

                    We broke away from England for economic and religious freedom. That doesn’t mean we’re different species. Decriminalizing drugs is about destroying any incentive for dealers to sell and saving money to invest in education and community building. How you keep kids from doing drugs is outlawing advertising it and launching it into a capitalist economy. Keep it well regulated to clinics only. And now you can concentrate on saving the minority of addicts who were before financing the entire illegal drug market. Problem solved.

                    We agree that non-lethal means should be used first if possible. Being a police officer is actually safer than its been in years in the USA today. Training is desperately needed.

                    I don’t watch TV news for my news either. But I have occasionally observe what stories they’re telling and you may be surprised to know that your narrative is much the same as theirs. You will not find my narrative spoken by Obama or any major network.

                  • ladyvader

                    Ponder this for a while.

                    Legalize all drugs. What are the gangs on the street corner going to peddle if people can buy those drugs at the store?

                    Do you have any idea how much money it saves by having less people in prison for a victim-less crime? Less prisons, less corrections offers for those prisons, less social workers(parole officer), less officers on the streets going after petty, victim-less crimes instead of focusing on the big crimes.

                    It increases tax revenue.

                    It’s a WIN-WIN

                    But you’re too stuck in the mud to think long term about anything.

                    • Scott McIntosh

                      That very logical sounding argument is destroyed by one simple fact. Drug addicts can’t hold down jobs so they eventually will have to commit crimes to get the money for their drugs. I am not stuck anywhere except in what is right and what is wrong.

      • jimculleny

        “The only people that have police problems are the ones that are not obeying the law.”

        That’s a very naive statement that runs contrary to even a cursory look at American history. Bone up.

        • Scott McIntosh

          Bone up??? Oh you mean read the revised history that the current corrupt administration in collusion with the media wants us to buy? No thanks I will stick to REAL history. People have the right to protest, legally. Disobey the law and don’t obey law enforcement then you run the risk of getting hurt. Maybe you should just “Bone up” on the law?

          • jimculleny

            No, I meant just read something more that your feedback loop. But I sense it may not do much good.

            • Scott McIntosh

              No, I will continue being a law abiding citizen preparing for the time when the police will be too busy with rioters and looters in the streets. Like I said before your cursory look is flawed because it doesn’t talk about how people actively resist arrest when they have been busted in the commission of criminal acts. If you don’t buy this then my only conclusion is that you are a criminal yourself or you got caught doing something they thought you did and you didn’t act respectfully. Either that or you just read a lot and have no life experience, both are pretty much equally useless. So what’s your beef with the cops?

              • jimculleny

                Scott, Just read some history about our history, Jim Crow, police states, maybe you’ll get it. The police do not just bust criminals.

              • Joe Whittle

                “You try and block my way while I am on public freeways and streets and I will run your dumb ass over.” So, you think running someone over with your car who is not a threat to your life, is being a “law abiding citizen”? Contradict yourself much? Ignorance, hypocrisy and stupidity are working overtime in your small brain. I love laughing at people who are too stupid to realize they are displaying their stupidity publicly. You’re funny. Inability to display nuanced thinking is a clear sign of a small mind. Inability to see/hear the hypocrisy coming out of one’s own mouth is just plain stupid.

                • Scott McIntosh

                  So I guess you think it’s okay to block public traffic illegally then? Try it where I live and find out how fast you are dead wrong.

                  • Joe Whittle

                    What I think is exactly what I said, which I noticed you conveniently ignored and responded with a fallacy instead (as is to be expected from unintelligent ignorants such as yourself). I’ll reiterate for you one one more time, since you are clearly dense, and/or incapable of rational debate that does not depend on fallacy. You are a hypocrite, as made evident by your own contradicting statements. And, as is also evident by your own words, you are clearly too stupid to realize how stupid you look to the world when you blab ignorant contradicting statements and fallacious argument out of your mouth. Everything you say here is invalid since you contradict yourself and cannot respond to rational points without using fallacy. You’re out of your intellectual league, as is painfully evident. I’d almost be embarrassed for you, but you obviously deserve the ridicule intelligent people feel toward you when you make yourself look like an idiot who cannot argue rational points without fallacy. Threatening death to someone who is no threat of life to you, is not only not “law abiding”, it is sadistic and sociopathic. Go home, you’re an idiot.

                    • Scott McIntosh

                      Did you write all of that in your mom’s basement? I think my statements have been pretty clear. I don’t really trust any part of the “establishment.” However, the people that choose to risk their lives for crappy pay I have much more respect for then dunderheads that block freeways and protest in other ILLEGAL ways. Get my drift dunderhead? Now get back in your mom’s basement and play more video games or jerk off to some porn or something. By the way, “go home” doesn’t make much sense when you type it on here does it? I mean just think I could be at home or I could be on the tennis court but either way how the F would you know?

                      • Joe Whittle

                        Lolololol!! I love it!! Speaking of moms, clearly yours never taught you what a logical fallacy is. My guess is she’s as ignorant as you. 🙂 I have a suggestion for you. Why don’t you get your GED and then go to college and learn se critical thinking and rational debate skills. Then you might start to understand why everyone here sees you as an idiot. In the meantime, all of us intelligent people will just keep laughing at you. 🙂 One thing you could do if you can’t get in to college is Google what a “fallacious argument” is. I’ll give you a hint: it has to do with the fact that you’ve spouted everything here BUT address my original point. (Which is understandable at least in the fact that there is no rational counter to my point, because I’m right. You are a self-contradicting hypocrite, which invalidates everything you say here. If you ever want intelligent people to take you seriously, stop being fallacious and exercise some critical thinking and analyze whether the words you say and whether they contradict themselves and add up to logical statements. Or, just keep being you and pissing in the wind while we laugh at your stupidity.

                    • Scott McIntosh

                      By the way, I’ll not be on my computer tonight so anything you type may not be read until Monday because I am rather busy but I will get to you. LOL

                      • Jack Trades

                        Are you a Scot… or are you Irish? I thought Scots were smarter than some of the things you’ve said here…

                • Scott McIntosh

                  Since when is it lawful to protest without a permit and to block freeways? You are the hypocrite, not me.

                  • Joe Whittle

                    Wow, you really are stupid, aren’t you? Astounding. You said you were a “law abiding citizen”. But before that you threatened to intentionally run over anyone who was protesting on a street you were using. You do realize that’s murder, right? You do not have the right to kill anyone else in this country unless they are an imminent threat to your life, which protestors are not-unless they are pointing a gun at you. Otherwise police would shoot and kill every protestor, which they do not. You cannot run over someone intentionally simply for blocking a public roadway, whether they are doing it legally or not, and call that self-defense. Murder is the only offense that warrants capital punishment in any state in this country. In the scenario you described, you are actually the murderer, and so if anyone is going to be legally killed, it would be you (in certain states). You essentially stated you would commit murder, and then claimed to be “law abiding”. Lol. What an idiot. Maybe you need to Google what hypocrite means. You really are a moron.

                    • Scott McIntosh

                      Block my way and find out asshole.

                      • Joe Whittle

                        Hahahaha! Exactly. That’s what I was talking about. What a dummy. Contradicts himself, denies it, then does it again. Everything you say is invalid. You are incapable of logical argument and debate, and critical thinking. Also, I see your mom never did teach you what a fallacious argument is. I was kind of hoping you’d get some education for your ignorance while you were away, but sadly you did not. You are boring. Yawn. Come back when you can pose an argument someone capable of rational thinking and basic logical thought construct might pose.

              • Enid

                As I believe that most police are good and needed Scott I will say we are going into a lot of area where there are those that are taking advantage of their power. On facebook follow this post you will see how some in power are taking children away from good parents on a daily basis: https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-Miracle-For-Two-Sisters/327945754051748

              • MatthewCooke

                The USA has the largest prison population in the world.

                The police grossly over arrest minorities (despite crime rates being roughly equal), arrests and imprisons easily over 50K innocent people (study done by the Innocence Project) and police actually kill more people on the streets than any other democracy on the planet. And if you’re black, you’re 21 times more likely to be shot by a police officer than if white (propublica analysis of federally collected data).

                Historically police enforced slavery, Jim Crow laws, segregation and a slew of other unconscionable laws. Every civil rights organization points out how disproportionately cops stop minorities which hurts relations and self esteem in minority communities and contributes to a cycle of crime and normalization of incarceration when resources are desperately needed for community building, education etc.

                Arrest in the the USA have become so over the top, recently a man was arrested for having a wind turbine on his property, another for his CD cover and album lyrics. We have more non-violent offenders in prison than another other country. We have over 3000 people arrested and serving life in prison for non violent crimes which is unheard of in the rest of the world.

                The average amount of time in jail BEFORE trial is 3 months and often much longer violating the right to a speedy trial. And police brutality and militarization (50,000 SWAT raids per year most on non violent drug offenses) are at an all time high.

                With videos every day revealing overt police brutality where there is most often little to no accountability for the officers people are understandably upset.

                • Scott McIntosh

                  Maybe it’s the minorities that are over-committing the crimes? Where are the stories about mobs of black americans attacking individual white people without any provocation? Your argument is flawed yet again because you are putting the cart before the horse and analyzing effect rather than cause. Typical Liberal thinking.

                  • MatthewCooke

                    Every study done on illegal drug use / sales shows that minorities don’t do or sell drugs at any higher rates than whites, yet minorities are exponentially more likely to be arrested on drug crimes, more likely to get prison time and sentenced at much longer rates.

                    And there is a false equivalence you’re drawing when you ask about mobs of blacks attacking whites. That is horrible but a real anomaly. If / when it happens, the law enforcement apparatus comes down as hard as it ever has.

                    Blacks were kidnapped overseas and enslaved by whites in the USA for 250 years where they were traded and families were torn apart and destroyed. Then there was 90 years of Jim Crow. 60 years of segregation and 35 years of devastating racist housing policy. Now add the war on drugs which is still in full force.

                    So while murder rates are higher in black ghettos is because they have become war zones — and are a direct result of the way we’ve treated African Americans since the 1700s. Whites don’t have that history. So the problems of police brutality hurt African Americans in a totally different way — they compound a history of brutality. That is cause and effect.

                    At the end of the day, we committed a holocaust on African-Americans and have yet to address our moral debt. Not only that, we continue to allow and in many ways encourage law enforcement to treat minorities with brutality as we ignore the cause and effect that created the circumstances that exist in many minority ghettos today.

                    The USA has the largest poverty rate and child poverty rate in any industrialized democracy. And poverty is the largest contributing factor to crime. So as long as we ignore these factors there will continue to be a backlash against police who represent the front lines of hundreds of years of mistreatment.

                    If the Germans treated Jews the way we treat black people in the USA the world would be up in arms. They can’t do that to the USA — because we are too powerful. Why are we so powerful? The industrial revolution — built on the backs of a slave economy. Cause and effect brother. “Either we go up together or we go down together.” – MLK

              • Thomas Hanks

                Moron, I’m as conservative as it gets, but I’m not this ignorant to what’s going on. Children are being mutilated with no knock warrants on the wrong houses. (3 in 2014 alone) I support the police, but not the unaccountability and thin blue line crap going on right now. You have to be literally putting your fingers in your ears and hands over your eyes to not realize Americans rights are being violated on an hourly basis. Supporting good cops is what we should all be doing and eradicating/prosecuting the bad cops which are running rampant. If you don’t like our constitutional rights and don’t think the cops should adhere to them then I get your stance. But at least admit it, I don’t agree with it but I would at least get it.

                • Scott McIntosh

                  OMG, a whole 3 in the entire US that they got wrong? Look at the demographics where those incidents occurred. People with kids should choose to live in safer neighborhoods. I lived in San Diego after the service in 1992 and my apartment got robbed in North Park so I promptly moved. Doh! The thin blue line is there because police need protection from the public, which they do not get. It is automatically assumed that every shooting is bad. Grand Jurys are not influenced by ANYTHING and even when they rule that there is no cause for prosecution of a cop a city still riots?

                  You don’t sound Conservative to me. You sound like an establishment GOP Kool Aid drinking RINO.

                  • Cherdawn

                    Mr McIntosh, You make me laugh. You live in a totally self edifying daze of, “I am right” I am not here to argue with you because you have a mind set, that to me, is scary. My 80 yr old father believed very much like you , until one day he took his 80 yr old self for a walk after 12 am because he couldn’t sleep. He donned his old holey lumber jack jacket, and his 1950’s pants with the patch in the knee. He only had an old tee shirt on under the jacket, which had become yellow and frayed around the neck. It was winter but not too cold I would say about 40. Well he wasn’t cold and he was just going to walk around the block. The cops thought he was homeless and started to arrest an 80 yr old man two blocks from his house! He changed his tune after that! People see what they want to see how they want to see it. My poor old father came home crying, he was so hurt . Yes he became angry and began to see the police in a very different light after that incident.! They had put him in handcuffs an 80 yr old man , two blocks from his home that he owned…in handcuffs! think on that! Oh forgot to mention he was mixed …so he was brown! He sort of looked like ricky ricardo and dean martin mixed together. So you can understand… they Only uncuffed this old man after they went through his pockets and found his house key and wallet no money in it just ID. He kept telling them he lived right around the corner. He fell dislocating his shoulder shortly after that incident, because he was out after dark and was afraid the police would get him again. He died 4 years later.

                    • Scott McIntosh

                      I am truly sorry for what happened to your father, I really am. One incident like this doesn’t mean they are all bad, it just means you are biased and jaded with your experience. Your argument really has no place in the general consensus of whether police are good or bad. Again, I AM sorry your 80 year old father was abused in such a fashion and I sincerely hope you retained an attorney and sued your city and police department.

                  • John William Bethell

                    Are you saying the pigs never get it wrong or never shoot the wrong person if so I think you need to get out of your dream world in into reality I served in the Army for 26 yrs and went to Vietnam and was lucky to not get killed by indiscriminate bombing by the yanks

                • Scott McIntosh

                  By the way in 1992 I made minimum wage so don’t start on about white privilege or any such other nonsense.

              • Beverley Davis

                hey did you see where a genuis in Ferguson blamed the police and firemen for not putting out the fires they started.

                • Scott McIntosh

                  That figures doesn’t it? Personally I think the business should have ALL closed down. People want to trash their own neighborhoods should be forced to live in trashy neighborhoods.

            • kristine08

              You cannot reason with a Tea Bagger.

              • Suzy Yeaton

                Amen to that.

                • Scott McIntosh

                  Liberals never have intelligent arguments, just stupid pictures that anyone can download and false assumptions about their adversaries beliefs. You are such a bunch of pathetic sheep.

              • vertigovibs

                Tea Bagger? Why do liberals resort to name calling? Someday, Kristine, those Tea Bagger’s may save this country.

              • Beverley Davis

                well that proves he’s right. IF a liberal can’t respond with a sound argument they call names. Thanks for proving my point.

              • Jack

                If it wasn’t for the Boston “Tea Party”, you’d be speaking Brittish !!!

                • OOOOSICKSIDEBURNS

                  Because “Brittish” is another language. Wow.

          • kristine08

            Actually, he means go away~

            • Scott McIntosh

              Who the F asked you?

              • Alison Sarah Hungry

                Ooooh, witty rejoinder!

          • MatthewCooke

            People who disobeyed unjust laws: Jesus, MLK, Ghandi, Thorough, any native American ever, etc. etc. In fact, standing up against unjust laws or being arrested for being jewish, black, etc is a hero of civil rights. Those are the people really fighting for freedom.

            • Scott McIntosh

              That is a load of crap. Protesting for thugs that commits strong armed robberies and assault police officers is not doing the work of Martin Luther King. Neither is protesting in the streets and blocking people’s ways to work illegally.

              • MatthewCooke

                Well you make 2 points here:

                1) Civil disobedience is as American as the revolutionary war. Read Henry David Thorough’s “Civil Disobedience” I honestly think you’d love it. It’s a hybrid of today’s left and right thinking.

                2) It’s substantively incorrect to say “assaults on police officers” are what people are taking to the streets to protest. Nobody is protesting someone’s right to protect themselves. They are protesting police brutality with racial bias. That is absolutely one of the many things MLK asked for. And peaceful protestors carry forth that legacy.

                • Sen

                  Martin Luther King Jr. NEVER ADVOCATED VIOLENCE in any form. I know this too be true. I’m an older person and was around in the days of the marches and what I heard come from his mouth was..Nonviolence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals. He believed in civil disobedience in other forms but NOT violence. Too even insinuate he did so is demeaning to his memory.

                  • MatthewCooke

                    The majority of people protesting the police are non violent.

              • Alison Sarah Hungry

                I have honestly never seen this much flagrant idiocy displayed in public so proudly, other than when Sarah Palin is at the microphone. You certainly are enjoying all of this negative attention; how sad. People, please stop addressing this microbe as though it were sentient; all you are doing is feeding the troll. He has no beliefs, and rather clearly, no education nor life experience. Let’s resist the urge to profile him based only on his rants…that would make us no better than the police state we are finding so offensive 😉

                • Scott McIntosh

                  You are the one that is demonstrating idiocy. You think you are fighting the good fight for MLK? He would be disgusted with you. You are not fighting for Civil Liberty, in fact my guess is that you sit on your fat ass at home and try to seem intelligent on here in this small microcosm of people that believe what you do. You are fighting for anarchy not justice! I am ready for the riots and the looting. My bet is you are not.

              • John William Bethell

                I have never seen as much crap written by one man as you write Scott you are a total imbecile American cops should never be investigated by their own police for corruption or other crimes it should be by an independent authority and if guilty they should be prosecuted to the max and put into prison with the people they helped put there

            • Sen

              I don’t think any of those people bombed, or killed people or intentionally destroyed others property or robbed.

              • MatthewCooke

                Neither do the great majority of peaceful protesters to their great credit.

      • Living

        That couldn’t be further from the truth. Ever heard of good and bad people? Well guess? There’s such a thing as good and bad cops. Wow, what lilly white world have you been living in. Oh, also there are cops who also turn a blind eye to bad acts of bad cops. I’m not sure if they can consider themselves “good cops” when they’re protecting bad cops that do bad to innocent people. The problem is when people ignorant of what’s really happening in real world and not a make believe world, get in position to make changes for good, but don’t, because they have no real understanding of reality based on their own limited experience and perspective.

        • Scott McIntosh

          I never said there were not bad cops so you had better back up a little bit. I said that law enforcement on the whole is NOT an evil force and any elements that are bad should be dealt with individually not by uneducated types such as yourself mobbing and deciding on village justice or deciding when you can block freeways and other public access ways. If you don’t like it here than move!

      • peabody3000

        give your trolling a rest. youre the same guy who said police are waiting for more protests to use as an excuse to declare martial law.. putz..

        • Scott McIntosh

          Bullcrap, yoy have no idea WTF you are talking about. Local police will be compromised to the point where the crooked Feds will install their own police force. That is when martial law happens. It’s all part of the plan to corral and slaughter you sheep. So it’s you that are the putz. Go look up Agenda 21 and pull your head out.

          • peabody3000

            im quite aware we are going all orwell. my point was you are contradicting yourself. you think local police are a totally different animal than feds? seriously, if you arent trolling, wake the F up

            • Dick Fucklestein

              Jesus Christ, who are you people? Divide and conquer yourself… well done! Also, get some sleep. It’s dark outside…

              • Dick Fucklestein

                meant this for the comment stream above, but hey!

              • peabody3000

                wow. you, sir, have a gift for irony

            • Scott McIntosh

              When the public doesn’t trust it’s local police force what do you think happens a hole? The state comes in, that is what happens. Then when they are not trusted the feds come in only the feds are hand picked jack booted Obastard hope and change troops disguised as community organizers. They are organizations like ACORN, OCCUPY and the Ferguson protesters. Soon we will see martial law and that is when the REAL revolution starts. Those of us that have prepared for it will fight FOR you because even though we believe you are morons for protesting the way you do we would DIE for your right to speak however you like in any forum. Are you willing to DIE for my right to speak freely? I seriously doubt it.

              • peabody3000

                its not that organized. local police have a ton of power, and its there to abuse as soon as anyone up high decides to. the feds have even more. they all answer ultimately to the same powers that be, who must commit vast resources if they are to pull these strings, but they do have vast resources. it is a dangerous time, and yeah you can puff out your chest about how ready you are and other people aren’t, but only time will really show who is willing to die, or kill, for whatever causes emerge from such circumstances

                • Scott McIntosh

                  Not true. I have already risked my life for my country. Have you?

                  • peabody3000

                    there are a couple of things i have risked my life for. i dont feel any need at all to compete with you about any of that. what is MUCH more important is who can do the RIGHT thing for their country when the big chips are down? if for example you are just trigger happy or blood thirsty, you wont help the cause, youll just make strategic mistakes that are costly for everyone

                    • Scott McIntosh

                      The LAST thing I am is trigger happy. I just want the Constitution adhered to by both government AND citizens. For instance giving illegal aliens citizenship without due process, cause and validation of sufficiency is to me illegal. That doesn’t mean I want to have them gunned down just deported to their source countries and made to use the legal procedure for coming into this country. The system that is at work is one that is creating as many citizens dependent upon welfare and other government programs. The policing “issues” are being used by those same forces to keep our eyes off the real ball until such as time that at least 51% of americans are dependent upon government. Then it will be too late and we will be under martial law because effectively we will have no rights. Over time our rights will continue to be eroded away and those that resist like me will then be labeled the criminals. Can you not see this happening?

                      • peabody3000

                        you say govt assistance programs create dependency. in reality, corporate welfare is what is wiping out the middle class, pushing a handful of people into great wealth while 1000 others are driven into poverty. virtually no one wants to be on welfare, to live that way with barely enough to survive if they could work under their own power. the rare welfare-queen example they show you on the news is just a scare tactic. corporation / wall st friendly govt economic policies are what is emptying out americas poickets. if you are so suspicious of what you being told, good.. dont let them scare you into thinking that your tax dollars are buying crack cocaine for jobless single moms driving beemers. its buying the weapons and intrusive surveillance services we dont need to militarize our own govt against us

                      • Scott McIntosh

                        Oh God please! Not the age old Corporations are bad argument! That argument is old and used up. Corporations supply jobs and unless you want a government supplied job I would suggest you re-think your view about Corporations. Government greed exceeds Corporate greed by many magnitudes.

                      • peabody3000

                        no. its not a corporations-are-bad argument. its a crony-legislation is bad argument. fascism is when corporate and governing political interests merge, and become linked to each other. govt at that point is a profit machine and people are the cash crop. that is when it makes sense to the govt to enforce total control on the population, and when life and freedom arent worth a nickel. that doesnt mean coproations or governments by themselves are bad. intimately combined however, they are the very worst

                      • Scott McIntosh

                        LOL, you realize that there is little difference between real fascism and real communism? If you like Obastard then you are clamoring for both. You can control Corporate greed by closely choosing what products you buy and services you utilize. The idea that government can save the people from so-called Corporate greed or rule is seriously flawed. The people can control Corporations by choosing to not do business with the ones they do not like. The funny thing is that the government that you think will save you keeps on passing laws for american individuals to make their own choices. Obamacare is a primary example and another is the FDA’s Food Act that actually prohibits the sale or transfer of food from neighborhood small farms to consumers. All of the red tape that is being created in the name of safety are as fascists and communists as you can get. Benjamin Franklin said and I paraphrase, Those that are willing to sacrifice a little Liberty for a little Security are deserving of neither and will likely lose both. Government is inherently evil and needs to be made as small as possible. Corporations can be controlled by the people through the power of how much money the people spend. People bitch about Corporations and then they go shopping without a second thought. Anyways we digressed from the original point about policing but I didn’t start that.

                      • peabody3000

                        what about when govt policy feeds us into the hungry mouth of the corporate sector? we’re not talking about whether fair play is good, we’re talking about being taken behind the woodshed by both entities working as a team. im not a democrat, but i sure as fu*k am not republican, or tea party either. they all have their ways of participating in the politics of who-gets-what, and that game doesnt include the general population

                      • Scott McIntosh

                        Okay now listen to this for a moment…If you are not a Democrat, Republican or Tea Party then you are completely outside of the system. So every election do you simply not vote or vote for a candidate from an party with no influence? I would like a revolution to happen but not by thugs rioting in the inner cities demanding to be able to deal drugs, rob people, mass attack people, murder innocents and behave any damned way they want to behave. The Tea Party is the closest organization that believes in small government, less interference in personal lives, law and order and COMMON SENSE. The Liberals on here ALL lack COMMON SENSE and want government to do everything because A. They think most people are too stupid to manage themselves OR B. They are too stupid to manage themselves. Think about that and think about trying to work inside the system until such time as there is a vehicle outside of it that will actually accomplish something.

                      • Ashley

                        “When you repeat false statements it doesn’t make them true.”

                      • Scott McIntosh

                        One other point, I bet you most of the Liberal cry babies on here don’t even vote either. I think if you don’t vote then you should just STFU!

                      • peabody3000

                        liberals this, liberals that, etc etc etc etc

                      • Scott McIntosh

                        Oh don’t even go THERE with me pal! MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC and other media outlets spend ALL DAY and NIGHT BASHING Conservatives! I was willing to engage you in intelligent argument but now you can just go F off.

                      • peabody3000

                        all the bashing is counter-productive.. but there is a real thing called the establishment, that actually represents the interests that you are against, and they are buddied up with the conservative side of politics exponentially more than these libby libs that you are so concerned about, mostly for reasons that were cooked up by the establishment itself. i know it sucks to have to think that maybe you have been drawn into the game of the very dark beating heart that you are warning everyone about, and renounce it as something that only pretends to have your back, but hey i did it, you can do it too

                      • Scott McIntosh

                        That made no sense whatsoever. The “establishment” as you called it is actually George Soros and a guy by the name of Saul Alinsky, who is fortunately dead. The Plan you eluded to in your retarded way is a plan to bring Socialism and eventually Communism to the United States. Obama is the first phase, weaken the system, weaken America in the world, weaken the dollar, weaken the public’s trust in it’s LOCAL resources and most of all weaken the power of the Constitution. Killary is the second phase. All of you liberals will be fat dumb and happy until all of the sudden you are defenseless sheep, oh wait never mind, you already are defenseless sheep. LOL

                      • peabody3000

                        you claim you want an intelligent discussion but if you think soros is in charge of anything, you are off the rails. heres what you REALLY need to do: you need to get a lot less angry, and a helluva lot more cynical. they keep making you angry about libby libby libs so they can use your emotions against you. divide and conquer, they have that game down. dont play along, and look around you at the people on the street, passing you by. they are all normal people. they all want the same things when it comes to what really matters, and they can reason capably no matter what party they claim. political parties are for the kingmakers to use and abuse. everyone else is a pawn. the GOP or tea party wants you to believe they want everyone to be rich. they really just want themselves to be rich, and for you to vote for not taxing them, not regulating them at all, and for other sweetheart deals that defy the concepts of competition and true capitalism. guess what. that doesnt help you. it helps them. only them

                      • Scott McIntosh

                        This is what you fail to grasp, time and time again, because you don’t actually listen to what I say but instead think of ways to convince me that you are right. 1. You are wrong, PERIOD. 2. All establishment Politics is flawed and I understand that. That is why people like Ted Cruz and Trey Gowdy are needed in government. Liberals still believe in Pelosi, Reid and Obama, even though all three have failed MISERABLY. The Tea Party is the only MOVEMENT, keep in mind that is not even a bonafide political party, that remotely resembles what the Founding Fathers laid down as how government SHOULD work and SHOULD function. My favorite pastime online is to pound that point home so I am very glad that you gave the opening to do so. True capitalism is the only way America stays the United States of America and avoids becoming the Union of Socialists States of America.

                      • peabody3000

                        ted cruz? that guy might be dumber than sarah palin, and that is something i dont say lightly. one thing is for sure, i know he SAYS the things you want to hear. in conservative politics, that’s how it works. focus-group the pitch, the public eats it up, then go and do the opposite but put a nice rah-rah-rah label on it so it still sounds like you little people benefit. wash, rinse, repeat. i dont question YOUR motives, but you really need to question THEIRS. and now, since you are indeed only repeating yourself like you said, we can get on with our day. if you want the last word, have at it

                      • Scott McIntosh

                        Yeah well you Libtards always accuse the politicians that actually believe in the Founders system to be dumb. Not one of you could have sat down and written a constitution like we have because you are all self-absorbed narcissistic mental midgets that blame all problems on someone else, refuse responsibility and accountability and are always right even if bold truth is placed in front of you. Congratulations on being a part of what is wrong with this country.

                      • OOOOSICKSIDEBURNS

                        THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK ^
                        GOOD JOB WITH THE OUTSTANDING HYPOCRISY
                        AND INCONSISTENT LOGIC AND THEORY.
                        LOOKING IN THE MIRROR MUST PHYSICALLY HURT YOU.

        • kristine08

          He needs a donut~

          • Scott McIntosh

            You need a douche.

      • Barbara Brown

        You know…..I guess all those Jews in 1930’s Germany should have just “followed the laws” like good little sheep too. Isn’t that right Scotty boy.

        And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.
        Martin Niemöller

        Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.
        Henry David Thoreau

        Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty.
        Thomas Jefferson

        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
        William Pitt

        I believe that every individual is naturally entitled to do as he pleases with himself and the fruits of his labor, so far as it in no way interferes with any other men’s rights.
        Abraham Lincoln

        Force always attracts men of low morality.
        Albert Einstein

        The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
        Edmund Burke

        You sir, are on the wrong side of history in the making……

        • Scott McIntosh

          Actually it’s not me that’s on the wrong side it’s you. Because evidently you believe that the people that work for law enforcement are for the bullshit that’s going on in Washington DC. Well that is further from the truth than you can even imagine. I know quite a few people in law enforcement and they are individually independent minded folks just like you and me. I can’t believe you used some of those quotes too validate vilifying police officers. You should be ashamed of yourself.

          • Barbara Brown

            I don’t have to “vilify” police officers; there are plenty of them out there doing that for themselves. You have no clue what you are talking about, that is evident in ALL of your comments; the shame is yours and yours alone.

            • Scott McIntosh

              You must be a stupid liberal Democrat because you keep on trying to insult me instead of responding with intelligent argument. Personally I think that with people like you all emergency services should be withheld from you. Then maybe you will stop your nonsensical droning about systemic police brutality. L8tr Kool Aid drinker.

              • Barbara Brown

                See, that is where part of your problem is, you think I am trying to insult you when that is not the case. I don’t have to insult you because you are an insult unto yourself.
                And I am quite far from some “liberal democrat” as you so eloquently spew it; in fact I am a staunch libertarian minded independent. I believe in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as the founding fathers intended it. Peace officers….not like the communist, jack boot enforcers of today are what this country needs.

                Is that a problem for you too? You seem to like the Jack Boot Enforcer mantra of today’s police “enforcers”, are you a communist?

                • Scott McIntosh

                  Do I support running over idiots that illegally block freeways and keep people from getting to their jobs? Yes, you bet I do. Do I support police officers that beat people for NO reason? No, of course I don’t but when they say stop or get on the ground and you don’t then prepare to get your ass whipped.

                • Scott McIntosh

                  Libertarians will NEVER repeat NEVER make a real political impact in america other than to siphon votes from REAL Conservatives and get Democrats like Clinton, Obama and probably another Clinton elected to the White House. The Libertarian platform goes too far and would never be adopted by anything more than 40% of the general populace.

                  • ladyvader

                    40% is dreaming, Libertarians, and not Rand or Ron Paul because they’re both GOP members are lucky to get 10-15% of the vote.

                    What are you taking to think it’s 40%?

      • koyote

        so i see you have your sheeple blinders on! awesome. thats your thing and i’m happy for you! what im really getting from this though is that if somebody is in your way on the road and they try to make you stop and think about the flawed system we live in…you will murder them. nice guy.

        • Scott McIntosh

          The last thing I am is a sheep and if you think the system is so flawed then go move somewhere else better, oh wait, it doesn’t exist and if you did move you would have to give up all the free stuff your Messiah in the white house wants to give you. Last time I checked people don’t have right of way on freeways unless you are in California and an illegal alien which could explain everything. Another Liberal with bitches and no solutions, surprise surprise.

          • OOOOSICKSIDEBURNS

            “You ignore and move on because you have nothing to say other than the same old tired Teabagger BS message. So keep moving on.”

      • Robo

        Keep wiping the taste of boots off your tongue. If it’s not hurting others than do what you like. The more laws the more unjust a society. Mala pro se laws that codify what everyone knows is wrong, e.g. rape, murder, theft, as opposed to all the mala prohibita nonsense, e.g. you can’t grow this plant and smoke it.

        • Scott McIntosh

          Umm, actually in my state you CAN grow that plant and smoke it, next ignorant point? BTW, that was the will of the people that spoke in Washington State!

      • Anne Giroux

        I had a police problem and it was not a result of my not obeying the law. Anyone can take a visit at Anne Giroux’s Recovery Fund to learn more on
        how a lack of empathy can impact countless innocent lives. http://www.gofundme.com/dmc8s0 Families deserve better. May the David Crowley’s family rest in peace and their lives lost not be in vain.

        • Scott McIntosh

          What about all the police officers that have been gunned down? Don’t their lives matter? Of course not because only Black Lives Matter. You make me want to puke.

          • Ashley

            Are you implying there are no African American police officers?

      • ScottIsMadAboutHisSmallDick

        Moron.

        • Scott McIntosh

          Child.

    • Sébastien St-Pierre Robert

      Options for how not to get murdered by some guy or by anyone like these three poor souls?
      1. Do nothing
      2. Learn how to defend (protect might be the right word) yourself
      3. Openly become a subversive liberty person so the government can’t kill you without drawing negative attention to itself and learn how to defend (protect might be the right word) yourself

    • Sébastien St-Pierre Robert

      Options for how not to get murdered by some guy or by anyone like these three poor souls?
      1. Do nothing
      2. Learn how to defend yourself
      3. Openly become a subversive liberty person so the government can’t kill you without drawing negative attention to itself and learn how to defend yourself

    • Sébastien St-Pierre Robert

      There’s a lot of us who want to do good, and harm the interests of evil people.
      but there’s a wave that we must outrun, that can swallow us up, just like it swallowed that writer and that producer and their child if indeed what happened wasn’t pure coincidence.

      As the liberty and peace movement, we must
      1. Grow to be as large as we can so as to gain traction, respect and protection
      2. Be very open about our activities so that it is easier to correlate a death to a subsersive activity, and therefore make assassination of boat shakers a non-possibility.

      We have to connect and be strong as a movement, and we will inevitably survive and thrive. Peace out.

      • Scott McIntosh

        What frigging movement are you droning on about? The movement that illegally blocks freeways and roads? The movement that is openly hostile to those of us that respect law and order? You movement is nothing but a BM from the scum at the bottom of societies bucket.

        • Ashley

          “As the liberty and peace movement” as written above answers your first question.

          The movement of the words leaving your mouth would seem to be the same as the ones that leave your a$$.

    • Seems when the Missouri Gov has the duty to call up National Guard and then FAILED to obtain an outcome it Truly is a Police State …………that Gov needs IMPEACHED

    • darlene

      TY for that … very interesting talk . Watch the doc Engines of domination or we need to talk about sandyhook … do you see THEM now ? The state does not take kindly to people powered movements that could possibly change the statis quo for them , no way they will give up power to the people . Look into GANGSTALKING it’s being used right now to SHUT people up . The american dream … you got to be asleep to believe it . Sadly that is the way they want us asleep . tc all .