At UN Human Rights Council, Saudi Arabia Supports Right To Torture & Execute LGBT People

The Gulf kingdom, where homosexuality is punishable by beheading, objected to a report by the special rapporteur on torture because extending human rights protections to LGBT people “lacked any ground in international law.”
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    GENEVA — At the most recent session of the U.N. Human Rights Council, Saudi Arabia objected to a resolution that condemns the use of torture by law enforcement and reaffirms the human rights of LGBT people.

    The resolution, passed during the council’s 31st session, which closed on March 24, condemns the use of torture “and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment,” and urges nations to prevent torture by police or during pre-trial detention.

    While the report is primarily focused on police and governmental use of torture, it briefly references the latest report by Juan Mendez, the special rapporteur on torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, which was issued during the session.

    According to a U.N. press release, Saudi Arabia protested because Mendez’s report “included 65 references to sexual orientation and was an attempt to use the eradication of torture to promote other issues, which lacked any ground in international law.”

    In essence, the Gulf kingdom, claiming to be speaking “on behalf of a number of countries,” was concerned that objecting to police torture might also require its own government to advocate for the human rights of LGBT people.

    In Saudi Arabia, homosexual behavior is punishable by the death penalty. Three gay men were executed by beheading there in 2002. In July 2014, Saudi Arabia sentenced another gay man to three years imprisonment and 450 lashes for meeting men on Twitter.

    Saudi Arabia’s involvement in the Human Rights Council has provoked controversy in the past, especially in September, when the nation was asked to lead the “Consultative Group,” which helps the council appoint human rights experts who serve in a variety of peacekeeping roles around the world. Cables released by WikiLeaks last year revealed that the Saudis made a secret deal with the United Kingdom to ensure their places in the council.

    The HRC has affirmed that human rights are universal, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity, most recently in a 2014 resolution — a resolution which Saudi Arabia voted against.

    Saudi Arabia continues to crack down on LGBT use of social media. According to a March 31 report by Vocativ, the kingdom is considering executing people for “coming out” online.

    “The extreme proposal comes amid a reported surge in the number of homosexuality-related crimes being prosecuted in the city of Jeddah, which officials attribute to a growing use of social media among members of the kingdom’s LGBT community,” wrote Shane Dixon Kavanaugh.

    Saudi Arabia’s objection to any recognition of LGBT human rights may ultimately be a distraction from the kingdom’s overall fondness for torture in all its forms. Amnesty International’s website declares that “Saudi Arabia has one of the worst human rights records in the world.” In addition to routine use of torture, the NGO also cites “public execution, discrimination, intolerance for free speech, possible war crimes in Yemen,” among many other offenses.

    Despite these well-documented violations, Saudi Arabia remains a close ally of the United States. The U.S. continues to arm the Saudi military despite repeated war crimes in Yemen. Few mainstream media sites seemed to take note of the recent crackdown on LGBT social media use, even as similar behavior by terrorist groups like Daesh (an Arabic acronym for the extremist group commonly known in the West as ISIS or ISIL) is widely condemned in the media.

    Speaking to Catherine Shakdam in January, investigative journalist Vanessa Beeley said the special treatment afforded to Saudi Arabia “exemplified America’s exceptionalism.”

    Shakdam concurred, adding:

    “Saudi Arabia’s ‘special friendship’ with the U.S. … has allowed for U.S. officials to pick and choose when to show outrage and when to denounce human rights violations, manipulating international law to the tune of their own political agendas, rather than objectively defending the rule of law.”

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    • Your1Friend

      The world is presently transforming to “non fossil fuel” energy sources and there will be many other energy sources emerging, no doubt about it.

      Where will Saudi Arabia be without the former power of its bloody oil $$$?

      Such change is inevitable.

    • KevinBarrington


    • Alan Page

      A Texan? This guy must be a damn’ Yankee Bernie Sanders-lovin’ socialist. Doesn’t he know Salafist (Wahhabi) Islam is the closest thing to born-again Christianity? Praise the lord (another name for Allah) and pass the ammunition, especially if it has been paid for by the House of Saud. I must take my pills……..

      • Krishna E. Bera

        Austin is a hotbed of progressive (aka leftist) social activism, among other places.

    • Christopher Smith

      Ahhh, the Saudis, who brought us 9/11/2001, who love torture, murder, and mutilation of prepubescent girls–just the kind of subhuman refuse dRUMPf and Rethugs love to the tune of 110 bil weapons deals.

    • Alex Kazmier

      oh brother the comment section is atrocious with abomination lgbtqplus. they bring religion into everything cause the abominations know what there doing is wrong.

    • Silvio Carvana

      OK I am guessing this is a conservative website? I see that all the down votes have been disabled.

      • Krishna E. Bera

        not mine apparently 😛

    • SewerKraut

      Trump is setting up the Saudi’s to attack the Iranians. Muslim on Muslim is the best way to solve the Muslim problem.

      • I suspect you will find the ruling regime in KSA are more likely Jews than Muslims…

    • Alex Kazmier

      great abominations like lgbtqplus deserve that

      • srapplebaugh

        You are an evil, inhuman person…. what is a “great abomination”? Who decides? You? Some mythological figure? Abominations: The noun abomination means a thing or action that is vile, vicious or terrible. Bombing innocent people. Beheading or hanging people because you do not agree with them. Greedy people who put profits over people, animals, and environment. Parents, or other adults, who beat their children or wives…. YOU…. you seem pretty damn deplorable!

      • Queefer Sutherland

        YOU are the abomination. God damns you.

        • Alex Kazmier

          God don’t damn me buddy he only damn abominations like you . Also,why are you bringing religious believes into this huh is your biology speaking to you and telling you what your doing is wrong and you are denying your own biology would seem to be so with that above comment?

          • Queefer Sutherland

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I’m heterosexual, you damned fool. You really exposed your ignorance.

      • Silvio Carvana

        Only because intolerant morons can’t understand the value of diversity. Isn’t that why their answer to everything is violence. kind of like what you’re suggesting then again I see you’re clearly no Einstein.

      • Dolly Roquette

        You are an abomination yourself, not to mention a despicable oxygen thieving excuse for a human being!
        ☣️ ☠️ ☣️

      • Sean

        Don’t feed the trolls people.

    • Your1Friend

      Saudi Arabia, soaked in oil wealth, is one of the evilest and most backward of nations.

      Its perversion only demonstrates the corrupting power of religious fundamentalism.

      • Krishna E. Bera

        money seems to have an effect too

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    • MikeBro

      “Strange Fruit”? Billie Holiday didn’t exactly have this in mind when she sang it, but it’s just as bad.

      • Your1Friend

        I think you are so right on.

    • Perplexed

      Isn’t the West being ethnocentric when it objects to the way that Saudi Arabia punishes homosexuals?

      • Brien

        Explain! The ‘west’ is progressing along the path of rights for all humans. Start there!

        • Starting… the west is culturally (religion tucks under this) conditioned to be just as blind to common sense and worldly facts concerning its own violation of human rights and gender based inequities (Ex. “The Red Pill” new feminist documentary USA takes on talking points of fact). Most interesting to me, is the non medically indicated genital modification procedures forced on minors. Do you agree intact genitals and body autonomy are human rights? (I’m thinking you have not considered or deny its relevancy by not seeing the elephant in your response.) Internationally, females enjoy genital rights .laws that preserve their inherit body and choice for themselves. The USA states `that taking ONE DROP OF BLOOD from the genitals is a serious human right violation. Clearly this stamps the west as being ‘Sexist’ against intersex and males. Furthermore, the west allows and at times protects its abomination of carving into and off healthy genital flesh of non females, to use the body as a billboard, the penis as a signpost of parental, societal, and religious beliefs. Our western ethnocentrism abounds across the west as non medically indicated circumutilation is being coerced and forced on blacks in Africa which carries the appearance of racist colonialism. See VMMC Project.

      • Robin Day

        Painting torture and murder as a cultural difference is disgusting.

      • Silvio Carvana

        That sounds messed up. Correct me if I am wrong. Your argument being that due to cultural perspective killing people is justified? Explain this to me please.

        • Krishna E. Bera

          Crime is defined by society, as are laws and morality. There is no infallible way to judge certain practices as absolutely good or absolutely evil – it is all culturally relative. It truly is a slow long term struggle to change the world.

      • srapplebaugh

        What????? Are you for real at ALL???? Punish homosexuals … you assume that it is a crime. You assume that it is a choice. You are one sick person if you equate homosexuality with rape, murder, stealing….

      • Dolly Roquette

        Humanitarian! In an increasingly global community we shouldn’t accept abominable violations of basic human rights! You are assuming that homosexuality is a choice. If my gay next door neighbour were being beaten to death and audibly screaming for help, as a humanitarian, I would feel morally bound to intervene! We are morally bound in the same way to intervene, in terms of sanctions, embargo etc, with our allied global *neighbours*! IMHO ☠️

    • David Goodwin

      And hillary supports islam. And hillary supports LGBT? Tell me how you can support both?

      • Lee Turner

        As does obama . Corruption abounds ..

      • DT

        Why drag Hillary into this? Try asking every so-called-Christian how they support “christianity” and the LGBT community.

        If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

        That’s in the so-called-christian bible, in Leviticus 20:13.

        How can one support the LGBT community and Christianity?

        • Silvio Carvana

          You can however Christians would prefer you lie about your sexual orientation.

          • DT

            How is asking a person to lie about themselves being supportive?

            I’ve found many so-called-christians have, what I’ll call, a biblical dictionary (for lack of me now knowing what they actually call their version of a dictionary). This dictionary has many definitions that do not align with a standard English Dictionary.

            One example is they call the being that murders “loving.” How is a murderer defined as loving other then this strange “biblical dictionary”?

            Another example is this use of the word “support.”

          • Patricia Ruiz de Zajia

            You said “they have done what is detectable…” But, we are not a judge. Jesus is sign of contradiction. May you never change your believes but Jesus tell us forgive because his father God is the judge. You have to forgive 70 x 7. The Christians people are called to love people but not sins. The different is easy to learn. All Christians is oppose sins, we believe that people can change for love to God. We accept it is a detectable practice but you have to gain souls. If you kill then you lost souls and your own soul also. I forget people that kill Christians and pray they change their hearts . Instead of kill, you have to convert them for Love to God. Bye and have a wonderful day.

            • Silvio Carvana

              quoting fables doesn’t seem practical in this case esp., since they were written nearly 3,000 years ago by superstitious people who lack education or understanding of the world around them.

            • DT

              Patricia Ruiz de Zajia,

              You replied to Silvio Carvana but appear to be actually addressing my comment. (I would have replied earlier had I seen your comment.)

              No, I didn’t say “detectable,” I said “detestable.”

              You say believers are not to judge but isn’t that the whole point to being a vocal so-called-christian–to publically judge others?

              Just look at all the laws concerning gay marriage put forth by the so-called-christians. Their justification is the bible. That’s Judging someone based on the commands of a mythological god.

              Be opposed to sin all you like but keep your opposition to yourselves. If your god tells you not to eat pork, then don’t eat pork, but don’t tell other people around the United States and world not to eat pork. That’s beyond asinine.

        • Carl Reyes

          Leviticus is not Christian, its Hebrew scripture. Christianity, in its truest form, is based on Christ’s teachings, not violence and “righteous” murder…”Those without sin may cast the first stone.”

          • DT

            It’s amazing what kind of BS* rhetoric the so-called-christians will espouse to show the loopholes in their religion and to justify the laws of their alleged god–apparently god’s laws no longer apply to so-called-christians–that they ignore. Such as eating bacon.

            Jesus was a religious Jew and followed the Jewish Law. Jesus said [his teaching] he did not come to change one iota of the law. So according to Jesus, Leviticus still applies.

            OR are you calling your Christ a liar?

            I’ve NEVER heard one argument against homosexuality outside the bible. But now that it’s convenient for your point-of-view, you wish to dismiss all those so-called-christians who for years, legislated homosexual acts.

            *Biblical Swill

            • Carl Reyes

              Sorry, I didn’t intend to justify hate or dismiss the Hebrew scripture, but merely point out how some Christians justify their faith even in the face of hateful biblical laws…which, you’re right can’t be justified if you take into consideration much of Hebrew scripture, but as a gay man who believes in the love taught by Jesus, I myself, like many believers, choose to put more emphasis on scripture to deepen my love, while calling out those who pick and choose scripture to justify their hate. Call me naive. That’s ok. Peace to you.

      • Chris Murphy

        Same way ppl think you can be religious and scientific . Totally contradictory .

        • Your1Friend

          I find your statement to be a profoundly superficial statement; it is almost as dogmatic as those subscribing to religious fundamentalism in its innumerable strains.

      • Silvio Carvana

        Of course you can be supportive of both camps. Terrorists fall in to the extreme zone. Most rational people are not equating the religion and culture with terrorism, we’re talking about only the most radical criminal elements who are armed and targeting specific groups of people. You know kind of like how the GOP is doing here in the US. LOL.

        • Your1Friend

          Good response.

    • C Money

      I love how the Libs support this behavior. I lick their sweet sweet tears.

      • Holly G. Chartier

        What a lovely post. Did that take a while to compose?

      • Silvio Carvana

        Lol, Progressives as we prefer to be called by and large most certainly do NOT support this behavior check your facts Red.

      • Your1Friend

        What superficial and false statement!

    • Joe American

      WTF is wrong with US, certainly we can just missile strike them into the stone age.

      • David Goodwin

        Yeah, when we get an AMERICAN in the WH.

        • Your1Friend

          There are none in there as of January 20, 2017.

          • srapplebaugh

            … just turned the White House into a certifiable nut house!!!

        • srapplebaugh

          Excuse me…. let’s see, you wrote this 6 months ago, and by your dribble, I’d have to surmise that you are referring to President Obama, who, without doubt, is an American. But it hardly matters now — Trump is in the WH as I write this response…. Who are we going to “missile strike them into the stone age” — Saudi Arabia??? You have seen the love fest between Trump and the House of Saud!!! Disgusting. It is all about billions of dollars, and the murders continue….. with USA sponsorship….!

      • Brien

        They are already still there.

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    • NUTTY

      James Wherry is a paedophile. ignore his posts. It has been proven on here with evidence that he supports and is a paedophile.

      • James Wherry

        “nutty,” that you are. I’m an adult married to an adult. That’s not pedophilia.

        • Ken Neubeck

          Is there research that would substantiate your implicit assertion that all pedophiles are unmarried?

          • James Wherry

            Ken, the argument by the neo-NAZ! “Tapatio” is that because I married someone younger than myself, I must be a Pedophile. That’s what “nutty” was posting about.

            Ironically for this Shi’ite website, the Islamic Prophet Muhammad had at least 4 wives with more of an age Duffy than me and my husband. Sooooo….

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      • NUTTY

        Well, it was right.

        • Holly G. Chartier

          Well, no it wasn’t even close to right. But thank you for your stirring words.

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    • James Wherry

      Why limit this to the Muslims of Sa’udi Arabia? The Muslims of Iran do the same. How about the Muslims of Europe?

      France: “First the Saturday People, then the Sunday People”

      by Guy Millière
      August 21, 2016 at 5:00 am (Below is an excerpt)

      The path of Adel Kermiche, born in France to immigrant parents from Algeria, and one of the two men who murdered the elderly priest Father Jacques Hamel, looks like the path followed by many young French Muslims: school failure, delinquency, shift towards a growing hatred of France and the West, return to Islam, transition to radical Islam.

      The French education system does not teach young people to love France and the West. It teaches them instead that colonialism plundered many poor countries, that colonized people had to fight to free themselves, and that the fight is not over. It teaches them to hate France.

      All political parties, including the National Front, talk about the need to establish an “Islam of France”. They never explain how, in the internet age, the “Islam of France” could be different from Islam as it is everywhere else.

      Many French Jews fleeing the country recalled an Islamic phrase in Arabic: “First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people.” In other words, first Muslims attack Jews; then when the Jews are gone, they attack Christians. It is what we have been seeing throughout the Middle East.

      There’s more on this story.

    • James Wherry

      Why does anyone think this has to do with just “Sa’udi clerics?” How about the Muslim clerics in the U.K.?

      UK: Clerics Who Threaten Reformers and Praise Murderers
      by Douglas Murray
      August 22, 2016 at 5:00 am

      Anjem Choudary has gone to jail. He was the most visible part of the problem. But he was not the greatest or deepest problem in this area. That problem is shown when two extremist clerics with pre-medieval views come to Britain they are welcomed by an ignorant British establishment.

      “These people teach murder and hate. For me personally I find it sad that a country like England would allow cowards like these men in. Why are they allowing people [in] that give fuel to the fire they are fighting against?” — Shahbaz Taseer, the son of Punjab Governor Salman Taseer, who was murdered for opposing Pakistan’s blasphemy laws.

      “They have got hundreds of thousands of followers in the UK,” the imam of the Madina Mosque and Islamic Centre in Oldham, Zahoor Chishti, said of the two clerics.

      The conviction of radical Islamic preacher Anjem Choudary — the most prominent extremist in Britain — has been widely welcomed in the UK. For years his followers and he have infuriated the vast majority of the British public (including most British Muslims) with their inflammatory and hate-filled rhetoric. They have also provided a constant stream of people willing to follow through the words with actions. More people around Choudary have been convicted of terrorism offences in the UK than any other Islamist group — including al-Qaeda.

      But Choudary’s conviction for encouraging people to join ISIS should not be greeted as though that is the end of a matter

      Last week we noted here how, after the murder of an Ahmadiyya Muslim in the UK at the hands of another Muslim, some Muslims are “more Muslim than others” and that those outside a particular theological group can be killed is not an idea held only by the murderer. It is an idea with a significant following in the UK Muslim community, as well as among Muslims worldwide. A recent test of this issue was the execution in January this year in Pakistan of Mumtaz Qadri. This was the man who murdered Salman Taseer, the governor of Punjab province in Pakistan. Taseer had opposed the strict blasphemy laws which operate in his country. In Qadri’s eyes, Taseer was an apostate for even thinking of watering down the blasphemy laws that jihadists and Islamists such as the Taliban wish to preserve. And so Qadri killed the governor.

      Of course one would like to think that everyone could unite in condemning the actions of a man such as Mumtaz Qadri. What is striking is how many people fail to do so, and how many Muslim clerics and religious leaders — even in the West — not only fail to do so but have been open in their praise of Qadri and their condemnation of Pakistan for putting him to death. Prominent among the latter group is the imam of the largest mosque in Scotland — the Glasgow central mosque.

      This past month, however, an even more significant event occurred. In July, two Pakistani clerics started a tour of the UK. Their seven-week expedition, called “Sacred Journey,” goes on until September 4, and includes appearances in Oldham, Rochdale, Rotherham and the Prime Minister’s own constituency of Maidenhead. One of the first things that Muhammad Naqib ur Rehman and Hassan Haseeb ur Rehman did when they arrived in the UK was to meet with the Archbishop of Canterbury. The Archbishop welcomed them in Lambeth Palace and claimed that the meeting would strengthen “interfaith relations,” as well as address “the narrative of extremism and terrorism.” One wonders how far the Archbishop got in this task?

      If there is a “narrative of extremism and terrorism,” Muhammad Naqib ur Rehman and Hassan Haseeb ur Rehman can take some serious credit for the fact. Both men took an enthusiastic stand in Pakistan in support of Mumtaz Qadri. That is, they supported the murderer of a progressive Pakistani official. Listen here, for instance, to Hassan Haseeb ur Rehman delivering a hysterical speech in support of Mumtaz Qadri while his fellow cleric, Muhammad Naqib ur Rehman, looks on approvingly from the platform.

      Here is Hassan Haseeb ur Rehman whipping up the vast crowd of mourners after the funeral of Mumtaz Qadri in Rawalpindi, Pakistan. During his speech he repeatedly refers to Qadri as a shaheed [martyr]. Tens of thousands of people attended the funeral, and afterwards rioted, chanting slogans such as “Qadri, your blood will bring the revolution” and “the punishment for a blasphemer is beheading.”

      After Qadri’s execution, Haseeb ur Rehman said on social media “Every person who loves Islam and Prophet is in grief for the martyrdom of Mumtaz Qadri.”

      So what are two clerics who approve of murdering reformers and mourn the death of fanatics and assassins doing touring the UK? Shahbaz Taseer, the son of the Salman Taseer, is among those who has criticised the UK authorities for allowing the two men into the country. “These people teach murder and hate,” he has said.

      “For me personally I find it sad that a country like England would allow cowards like these men in. It’s countries like the UK and the US that claim they are leading the way in the war against terror [and] setting a standard. Why are they allowing people [in] that give fuel to the fire they are fighting against?”

      “They have got hundreds of thousands of followers in the UK,” the imam of the Madina Mosque and Islamic Centre in Oldham, Zahoor Chishti, said of the two clerics. Chishti denied that the event was organised by his mosque and said that he was not aware of the views of the speakers. “When I found out I was upset. I think it was really upsetting and wrong. They come to the UK every year and give messages of love, so that’s why they’re booked on that basis.’

      Elsewhere, the “Sacred Journey” tour has already thrown up another interesting connection. Mohammed Shafiq runs a one-man outfit called the “Ramadan Foundation” in the UK, and is regularly called upon by the British media. He appears to be viewed as a “moderate” Muslim because he has been outspoken in opposition to the mass rape of children by gangs of Muslim men. Despite this heroism, his own liberal credentials (not least as a member of the Liberal Democrat party) have often come into question. Several years ago, for instance, when the Liberal Democrat candidate and genuine anti-extremism campaigner Maajid Nawaz re-Tweeted an innocuous cartoon from the “Jesus and Mo” series, Shafiq was among those who tried to get up a lynch-mob against Nawaz. Shafiq wrote on social media that Nawaz was a “Ghustaki Rasool,” Urdu for “defamer of the prophet.” He warned that he would “notify Islamic countries.” Shafiq angrily denied that these and other messages constituted incitement against Nawaz.

      But now, on the visit of two clerics to the UK who applaud and mourn Mumtaz Qadri, where is Mohammed Shafiq to be found? Why, warmly greeting the cleric who praises the murderers of reformers and glad-handing with the terrorist-apologists and blasphemy lynch-mob, of course.

      Almost everyone in Britain is pleased that the loudmouth Anjem Choudary has gone to jail. Like the hook-handed cleric Abu Hamza before him, Choudary was — as a case — almost too easy. He was the most visible part of the problem. But he was not the greatest or deepest problem in this area. That problem is shown when two extremist clerics with pre-medieval views come to Britain, they are welcomed by an ignorant British establishment. The problem is shown when they tour mosques, they do so to packed houses because they have “hundreds of thousands” of followers of Pakistani origin in the UK. The problem is shown when you scratch the surface of one of the self-proclaimed “moderates” like Mohammed Shafiq and discover that he is happy to pal around with the people who threaten reformers and praise murderers.

      That is the problem for British Islam in a nutshell. And that is a problem we still remain woefully unable to confront.

      Douglas Murray, British author, commentator and public affairs analyst, is based in London, England.

      • Leona Burdett

        If Great Brittain had not used the crazed failed cleric Ibn Wahhab to help them colonize the Middle East and eventually destroy the Ottoman Empire in the 1700s we wouldn’t have the evil heresy called Wahabbism calling itself Islam in so many places now! And the world keeps doing that and aiding terrorists to do their work under the guise of not using their own soldiers to fight wars. That always backfires but the powerful don’t care as long as they can sip the blood and riches from their targets. And. There has never been a legitimate Caliphate since the last of the original four Caliphs and there never will be another until the Madhi,who is Prophet Jesus. But the way things are going now,I hope for that sooner than later. I agree with people questioning the sanity of letting dispicable people enter any country under pretext of religion. Teaching hate inside a religious house of worship is evil. Coming into another land and teaching undereducated jobless or unstable people should not be protected under freedom of religion. Because it’s not teaching a religion, but teaching heresy of that religion. Wahabbism is heresy in Islam. The same goes about other religions teaching hate in the name of their God(s)! Damn fools don’t know how to understand their own Holy Texts! Here’s a clue: the texts can be straight forward as they seem or be, allegorical, or only used in certain historical contexts. So, spewing hateful talk should not be under freedom of speech! God obliterated evil and lascivious populations. He made the differing genders, so he does not condemn the gay people as long as they ( the same as straight people) do not display copulation in public. Lots people did that!

        • James Wherry

          I don’t see any difference between Wahabiism and the Shi’ite Eleveners and Twelvers who run IRAN, today. Both use imprisonment, torture and murder to persecute those of us who are gay.

          The first heresy Muslims confronted were the Kharajites of the Eighth century. The Kharajites quoted the same verses of the Koran, killed anyone who did not convert, and declared any Muslim who did not agree with their views to be “Apostates” – and killed them, too, of course. They were the ISIS and al-Quaeda of their day.

          The rest of Islam promptly slaughtered them. But yes, the heresy rears its ugly head, from time to time.

        • James Wherry

          Leona, by the way, let me be clear about my comment, below: I do not blame Islam or the majority of Muslims for the Kharajites. This was a civil war among Muslims and the prevailing party were the sane moderates and not the Kharajites.

    • GreatGrannyInGeorgia

      Some human rights commission… More like a bunch of barbarians!! The UN needs to go the way of the dinosaur…EXTINCT!

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    • Hugo Spinoso

      it should not be a crime if its not forced upon others, still if saudi arabia condems this behaviour, what would happend if the punishment instead of dead was banishment?

    • SeaNote

      Saudi’s are just your typical primitive Arab Muslim.

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    • Denethor Palantir

      Isn’t Obama currently kissing the pinky ring of the House of Saud?

      • Holly G. Chartier

        What is wrong with your mind?

      • Robin Day

        And the Mango Mussolini thinks he is the most attacked politician in history.

    • Ain’t this information inaccurate (or even wrong)?
      Homophobic laws are a horrible thing. Saudi Arabia’s position on the matter is unacceptable.
      However, it seems to me that this article is misrepresenting their words. By reading the U.N. press release, it does not seems that “Saudi Arabia supports right to torture LGBT people”. (They however support the right to execute them.) In fact, Saudi Arabia simply 1) condemns torture, 2) does not support part of the report of the Special Rapporteur because it seems to push toward pro-LGBT ideas. Saudi Arabia expresses that there is no reason (in its opinion) for rejecting homophobic laws, and reject dissociate from the part of the report that seems to condemn homophobic laws.
      The full paragraph of the U.N. Press Release:
      Saudi Arabia, speaking on behalf of a number of countries in a general comment, said that torture was an act that should not be tolerated. Continuous efforts were being made to prevent the acts of torture. Saudi Arabia, nonetheless, had some serious systemic concerns, including the reference to the report of the Special Rapporteur on torture. The report included 65 references to sexual orientation and was an attempt to use the eradication of torture to promote other issues, which lacked any ground in international law. The draft text did not faithfully reflect the position of the Council towards the report, so the group of countries would dissociate itself from operative paragraph 20.”

      • Robertmark Carlson

        Ooooh you must be right. A heavily Islamic country which endorses beheadings and hangings, firing squads, stonings, whippings, the chopping off of hands, and prison terms for life for minor offenses MUST of course be NOT homophobic at all!! (We are really really sure how ALL Muslims ignore the part in the Hadith which instructs faithful Muslims to toss their LGBTI brothers and sisters off the highest building in town.) That’s right…. Muslims as a whole just LOVE their gay and lesbian friends and family members!! The evidence of this is EVERYWHERE!!! Yes! You make a wonderful point “Bunker D” – Saudi Arabia is very very well known to be gentle, loving, and kindly humble when it comes to LGBTI people……. yeeeaaaaa….. riiiiiiiiight……..

        • My second line is “Homophobic laws are a horrible thing. Saudi Arabia’s position on the matter is unacceptable.”
          Bravo. You failed at reading.

          • Helen Yelen

            Meant for Robert Mark Carlson~~~~
            Darling, You failed at comprehension, and your use of the English language needs a whole lot of work. The whole premise of your statement is nonsensical. You simply repeated lines from the article. Did you miss the fact that their are five headless people hanging in the picture? This and so many other atrocities go on in Saudi on a regular basis it’s sickening! They stone women for adultery, oh yeah, if they’re raped; it’s their fault. Hillary Clinton takes money for her foundation from these people. The US (for diplomatic reasons) pays Saudi money regularly. They will continue to behave this way until The Muslims revolt against it.

      • Helen Yelen

        You failed at comprehension, and your use of the English language needs a whole lot of work. The whole premise of your statement is nonsensical. You simply repeated lines from the article. Did you miss the fact that their are five headless people hanging in the picture? This and so many other atrocities go on in Saudi on a regular basis it’s sickening! They stone women for adultery, oh yeah, if they’re raped; it’s their fault. Hillary Clinton takes money for her foundation from these people. The US (for diplomatic reasons) pays Saudi money regularly. They will continue to behave this way until The Muslims revolt against it.

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    • James Wherry

      Glad to hear MintPressNews is supporting gay rights.

      Or, is it? This pro-Shi’ite website has never condemned Iran for anything, including its deliberate, targeted persecution of the GLBT community. That would include the EXECUTION of 4,000+ gay men and women by Iran since its revolting revolution. “Lifestyles of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people exposes them to horrific punishment, study finds”

      • tapatio

        As usual, this Jewish, gay (self-professed) hasbara troll uses a Jewish owned anti-Muslim hate site as “support” for his lies. Wikipedia has nothing to do with “WikiIslam”.

        LGBTs are not viewed kindly in many societies. More gays are killed in the US than in Iran. Unfortunately, LGBTs in the Muslim world see behaviors in the West and think that they “should” be able to act out in the same ways at home.

        In Missouri or South Dakota, if they flaunted, they would be taken behind the road house and beaten – frequently to death. In the CONSERVATIVE Muslim world the same thing is formalized. In the wealthy Gulf states, allies of the Jewish state and Washington, being LGBT carries a death penalty. In other Muslim states, like Iran, LGBTs must carry out their behaviors in public to violate the law.

        While people should be able to do as they wish in PRIVATE, modern Jews have the idea that any behavior should be just dandy in public……………….

        • James Wherry

          As usual, this Arab Muslim Naz@, tapatio, is SHILLING for Islam and trying to cover their Shi’ite crimes and justify bigotry and violence.

          World Congress of GLBT Jews.

          • tapatio
            • James Wherry

              How about the right to NOT be BURNED TO DEATH by your proclaimed religion, tapatio: Presbyterianism?


              • tapatio

                ISIS is a Saudi Arabian terrorist group. The Presbyterian Church has proudly divested from and boycotts Saudi Arabia and Israel and their Jewish bankster masters.

                Michael Servetus, 500 years ago, preached atheism and hatred of all churches. The Catholic Church and other Christian churches wanted him killed. Just as the Jews murdered Jesus 2000 years ago, Servetus was killed for what he taught.

                THIS was a 15 year old Palestinian boy who Israeli Jews force-fed gasoline and burned to death TWO YEARS AGO.
                THIS was Muhammad Abu Khdeir before the Jews tortured him to death.

                The Torture-Murder of Muhammad Abu Khdeir by Jew settlers was in mainstream media ALL over Europe – though it was NEVER MENTIONED by the JEW OWNED US MEDIA.

                NO CULT that can commit or tolerate such crimes should exist among humans. This Judeo-Naz! Cult is NOT human..






                • James Wherry

                  Michael Servetus was anything but an atheist, but did that justify his butchering?

                  You complain about one person burnt to death TWO YEARS AGO, but ignore the 20 people burnt to death, last week by Palestinian Arabs.

                  • tapatio

                    IF the “suicide bombings” weren’t false-flag attacks by Mossad and
                    other Jew gangs, Jews still murder at least 100 Palestinian civilians
                    for every Jew (combatant or not) killed by Palestinians.

                    • Phil Moreau

                      Antisemitism is a stinky cologne douche bag

                      • tapatio

                        Really STUPID comment.

                      • NUTTY

                        Can’t be anti-Semitic to fake Jew’s. Idiot.

                • John scutaru

                  lies, if anyone does disgusting things like tourture with gasoline and drag the bodies (dead or alive) throughout the Palestinian streets is the Palestinians….and after the death they try and make it look as if the Israelis did it.
                  You are pathetic

                • James Wherry

                  What a list of lies. ISIL was created by the Syrians and Iranians who supported Zarqawi and let his groups operate on Iranian and Syrian soil – to attack Americans.

                  Thanks for trying – AGAIN – to justify burning someone to death. I’ve actually READ the book on Serveetus. He was a pan-theist who saw God in everything and did NOT “hate churches.” He was also “a Spanish theologian, physician, cartographer, and Renaissance humanist. He was the first European to correctly describe the function of pulmonary circulation, as discussed in Christianismi Restitutio (1553).”

                  Your boy Calvin was jealous. “To Calvin, who had written his summary of Christian doctrine Institutio Christianae Religionis (Institutes of the Christian Religion), Servetus’ latest book was an attack on his personally held theories regarding Christian belief, theories that he put forth as “established Christian doctrine”. Calvin sent a copy of his own book as his reply. Servetus promptly returned it, thoroughly annotated with critical observations. Calvin wrote to Servetus, “I neither hate you nor despise you; nor do I wish to persecute you; but I would be as hard as iron when I behold you insulting sound doctrine with so great audacity.” In time their correspondence grew more heated until Calvin ended it.[21] Servetus sent Calvin several more letters, to which Calvin took offense.[22] Thus, Calvin’s antagonism against Servetus seems to have been based not simply on his views but also on Servetus’s tone, which he considered inappropriate. Calvin revealed the intentions of his offended pride when writing to his friend William Farel on 13 February 1546:”

                • James Wherry

                  Oh, I get it. Your NAZ! sympathies are getting I the way about Michael Servetus.

                  “In 1942, the Vichy Government took down the statue, as it was a celebration of freedom of conscience, and melted it. In 1960, having found the original molds, Annemasse had it recast and returned the statue to its previous place.[63]” Source: Wikipedia.

              • tapatio

                OF COURSE, WHERRY. Just everybody’s going to believe that Presbyterians burn people alive. We brewed up a couple of dozen Jewish pop-tarts just this morning – or actually the kids did in Sunday School.

                Seriously, I am grateful for the demonstration of the imbecility of hasbarats and the obvious effects of frothy mix on your brain – little fudge-packee.

                James Wherry and his mail-order Filipino Toi-Boi…………….

                • James Wherry

                  My mother – who you want to pee on – was a presbyterian. Your problem is that you are a NAZ!

                  • tapatio

                    That’s a bit too much of a coincidence, Wherry. In your part of Illinois most are Baptist or some one of the pentecostal/evangelical cults.

                    • James Wherry

                      Your ignorance of Illinois seems like your ignorance of everything else: complete and absolute. You’ll find an abundance of Presbyterian churches. For her part, I suspect my mother was agnostic and did not put much stock in church.

                      • tapatio

                        James Wherry is from the backward, rural part of Illinois. I actually spend a lot of time in that state since my wife has a huge family and most of them are in the outlying burbs of Chicago.

                      • James Wherry

                        Tapatio exposes his idiocy, again. The Quad Cities are the second largest urban area in the state after Chicago. But yes, Illinois has had NAZ!s, so tapatio’s connection comes as no surprise. My guess would be that he and his family marched in Skokie against the Jews who lived there, who proudly showed the numbers tattoed on their arms by his NAZ! masters in WWII.

            • John scutaru

              why would you bring a picture of a Jew which survived Auschwitz and lived all his life after the Holocaust in the Netherlands, a place well knows for large Muslim population and hence has been spreading propaganda about Israel and the Palestinians?
              So the Jew that never lived in Israel is your spokesman?
              You and your whole Mintpressnews are pathetic

              • tapatio

                תזיין את אמא שלך

                Moiche Feiglin




                With God’s Help
                Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
                Mr. Prime Minister,
                We have just heard that Hamas has used the ceasefire to abduct an officer. It turns out that this operation is not about to be over any too soon.
                The failures of this operation were inherent to it from the outset, because:
                a) It has no proper and clear goal;
                b) there is no appropriate moral framework to support our soldiers.
                What is required now is that we internalize the fact that Oslo is finished, that this is our country – our country exclusively, including Gaza.
                There are no two states, and there are no two peoples. There is only one state for one people.
                Having internalized this, what is needed is a deep and thorough strategic review, in terms of the definition of the enemy, of the operational tasks, of the strategic goals, and of course, of appropriate necessary war ethics.
                (1) Defining the enemy:
                The strategic enemy is extremist Arab Islam in all its varieties, from Iran to Gaza, which seeks to annihilate Israel in its entirety. The immediate enemy is Hamas. (Not the tunnels, not the rockets, but Hamas.)
                (2) Defining the tasks
                Conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters.
                (3) Defining the strategic goal:
                To turn Gaza into Jaffa, a flourishing Israeli city with a minimum number of hostile civilians.
                (4) Defining war ethics: “Woe to the evildoer, and woe to his neighbor”
                In light of these four points, Israel must do the following:
                a) The IDF [Israeli army] shall designate certain open areas on the Sinai border, adjacent to the sea, in which the civilian population will be concentrated, far from the built-up areas that are used for launches and tunneling. In these areas, tent encampments will be established, until relevant emigration destinations are determined.
                The supply of electricity and water to the formerly populated areas will be disconnected.
                b) The formerly populated areas will be shelled with maximum fire power. The entire civilian and military infrastructure of Hamas, its means of communication and of logistics, will be destroyed entirely, down to their foundations.
                c) The IDF will divide the Gaza Strip laterally and crosswise, significantly expand the corridors, occupy commanding positions, and exterminate nests of resistance, in the event that any should remain.
                d) Israel will start searching for emigration destinations and quotas for the refugees from Gaza. Those who wish to emigrate will be given a generous economic support package, and will arrive at the receiving countries with considerable economic capabilities.
                e) Those who insist on staying, if they can be proven to have no affiliation with Hamas, will be required to publicly sign a declaration of loyalty to Israel, and receive a blue ID card similar to that of the Arabs of East Jerusalem.
                f) When the fighting will end, Israeli law will be extended to cover the entire Gaza Strip, the people evicted from the Gush Katif will be invited to return to their settlements, and the city of Gaza and its suburbs will be rebuilt as true Israeli touristic and commercial cities.
                Mr. Prime Minister,
                This is the a fateful hour of decision in the history of the State of Israel.
                All metastases of our enemy, from Iran and Hizballah through ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood, are rubbing their hands gleefully and preparing themselves for the next round.
                I am warning that any outcome that is less than what I defined here means encouraging the continued offensive against Israel. Only when Hizballah will understand how we have dealt with Hamas in the south, it will refrain from launching its 100,000 missiles from the north.
                I call on you to adopt the strategy proposed here.
                I have no doubt that the entire Israeli people will stand to your right with its overwhelming majority, like myself – if only you will adopt it.
                With high regards, respectfully,
                Moshe Feiglin

                (Just in case he removes the comment, as they frequently do)


                ראש הממשלה בנימין נתניהו

                אדוני ראש הממשלה
                זה עתה נודע כי החמאס ניצל את הפסקת האש בכדי לחטוף קצין. מסתבר שהמבצע הזה לא עומד להיגמר כל כך מהר.
                הכשלים במבצע היו טמונים בו מתחילתו כי:

                א – אין לו מטרה נכונה וברורה.
                ב – אין מעטפת מוסרית ראויה התומכת בחיילינו.

                מה שנדרש כעת הוא להפנים שאוסלו נגמר, שזו ארצנו – רק ארצנו, כולל עזה!
                אין שתי מדינות ואין שני עמים – יש רק מדינה אחת לעם אחד.

                בעקבות ההפנמה הזו נדרש שינוי אסטרטגי עמוק ויסודי – הן בהגדרת האויב, הן בהגדרת המשימה, הן בהגדרת היעד האסטרטגי וכמובן – בהגדרת מוסר הלחימה הנכון והנדרש.

                1 – הגדרת האוייב
                האויב האסטרטגי הוא האסלאם הערבי הקיצוני על כל גרורותיו מאיראן ועד עזה המבקש לחסל את ישראל כולה.
                האויב בעין הוא החמאס.
                (לא המנהרות, לא הרקטות – החמאס)

                2 – הגדרת המשימה:
                כיבוש הרצועה כולה וחיסול כל הכוחות הלוחמים ותומכיהם.

                3 – הגדרת היעד האסטרטגי:
                להפוך את עזה ליפו. עיר ישראלית פורחת עם מינימום אזרחים עוינים.

                4 – הגדרת מוסר הלחימה:
                “אוי לרשע ואוי לשכנו”

                לאור ארבעת הנקודות הללו על ישראל לבצע מיד את הפעולות הבאות:

                א – צה”ל יגדיר שטחים פתוחים על גבול סיני ובסמיכות לים בהם תתרכז האוכלוסייה האזרחית- הרחק מהשטח הבנוי ואזורי השיגור והמנהור. באזורים אלו יוקמו מחנות אוהלים עד לאיתור יעדי הגירה רלוונטיים.
                אספקת החשמל והמים לאזורים שהיו מאוכלסים – תנותק.

                ב – האזורים שהיו מאוכלסים יופגזו בכוח אש מקסימלי. כל מתקני החמאס האזרחיים והצבאיים, אמצעי הקשר והלוגיסטיקה – יחוסלו עד היסוד.

                ג – צה”ל יבתר את הרצועה לאורכה ולרחבה, ירחיב מאוד את הצירים, ישתלט על אזורים שולטים וישמיד קיני ההתנגדות במידה וייוותרו כאלה.

                ד – ישראל תחל באיתור מדינות ומכסות הגירה לפליטי עזה. המעוניינים להגר יזכו בחבילת סיוע כלכלית נדיבה ויגיעו לארצות הקולטות עם יכולת כלכלית משמעותית.

                ה – מי שיתעקש להישאר ויוכח כי אין לו כל קשר לחמאס, יידרש לחתום באופן פומבי על הצהרת נאמנות לישראל ויקבל תעודת זהות כחולה בדומה לזו של ערביי מזרח ירושלים.

                ו – עם שוך הקרבות יוחל החוק הישראלי בכל הרצועה, מגורשי גוש קטיף יוזמנו לשוב ליישוביהם והעיר עזה ובנותיה ייבנו כערי תיירות ומסחר ישראליות לכל דבר.

                אדוני ראש הממשלה!
                זוהי שעת הכרעה גורלית בימיה של מדינת ישראל.
                כל גרורות האויב, מאיראן והחיזבאללה ועד דע”ש והאחים המוסלמים – חוככות כעת את ידיהן בהנאה ומכינות עצמן לסבב הבא.

                אני מתריע שכל תוצאה שהיא פחות ממה שהוגדר כאן, משמעותה עידוד המשך האופנסיבה נגד ישראל. רק אם יבין החיזבאללא כיצד טופל החמס בדרום, ימנע מלשגר את 100,000 הטילים שלו – מצפון.

                אני קורא לך לאמץ את האסטרטגיה המוצעת כאן.
                אין לי כל ספק שכמוני, עם ישראל כולו יעמוד ברוב מוחץ לימינך – אם רק תאמצנה.

                בכבוד ובהערכה רבה
                משה פייגלין

                • James Wherry

                  The re-conquest of the Gaza Strip is not welcomed by the majority of the Israelis whom you HATE, TAPA-FILTH, but if it is the only way to stop the bombings, then it may happen.

                  • tapatio


                    • James Wherry

                      In the 11 years, Israelis fired BACK at people trying to murder them – mostly rocket launchers. In those same years, dozens of Palestinian rockets killed Palestinian children.

                      I can’t help it, if the Palestinians are incompetent.

            • James Wherry

              You have made it clear that you believe that homosexuals should be murdered if they speak up. It’s kind of like the KKK when they beat up black people forgetting “all uppity.”

              • tapatio





            • James Wherry

              Tapatio is angry with me because I’ve exposed him as a NAZ!. Here he is, praising HITLER for the HOLOCAUST.

              • James Wherry

                Like ALL NAZ!s, tapatio quotes fake Talmud quotes from fake books not found I the Talmud. He’s even tried to “quote” the phoney George Washington and Ben Franklin quotes made up in the ’30’s by the NAZ!s – letting you know what a FILTHY PIECE OF NAZ! TRASH tapatio is.

                Founding Father Quotes


                Once again, you TRIED to lie and tried to deceive the readers with more fabrications. You’ve been exposed, over and over, again. And, honestly, if you have to lie so much about the Jews, has it ever occurred to you that you HAVE NOTHING OF VALUE to post?

                1. Quotes by George Washington? Those are fabrications from the 1930’s.

                2. The “Franklin Prophecies” were NEVER written or spoken by Benjamin Franklin. This fake didn’t appear until 1934 during the RISE OF YOUR NAZ! PARTY IN GERMANY AND ITS JEW HATRED! You’re just repeating what your masters wrote for you, 82 years ago.

                3. Voltaire. He was an anti-Semite of his times. But since YOU quoted him, I assume that YOU ARE REQUIRED TO AGREE WITH VOLTAIRE ON MUSLIMS. Here’s what Voltaire said about the Muslims: ““The Koran teaches fear, hatred, contempt for others, murder as a legitimate means for the dissemination and preservation of this satanic doctrine, it talks ill of women, classifies people into classes, calls for blood and ever more blood. Yet, that a camel trader sparks uproar in his tribe, that he wants to make his fellow citizens believe that he talked to the archangel Gabriel; that he boasted about being taken up into heaven and receiving a part of that indigestible book there, which can shake common sense on every page, that to gain respect for this work, he covers his country with fire and iron, that he strangles fathers, drags away daughters, that he leaves the beaten a free choice between death and his faith: now this is certainly something that no-one can excuse, unless he came as a Turk into the world, unless superstition has stifled any natural light of reason in him.”

                4. General Grant. Yes, he made anti-semetic statements because he was lied to by Jew
                Haters like you. Abraham Lincoln rebuked him and he immediately withdrew the filthy lies.

                Did a lying piece of NAZ! FILTH LIKE YOU really, really think you could get away with your lies, in the face of a good and honest man like me, armed with the FACTS????

              • tapatio

                You finally figured out how to enlarge the graphic you made, eh, tu-rd burglar?

                I will agree, though, that Jews caused the economic catastrophe in Germany, which allowed Hitler to rise to power. But, he killed the WRONG Jews. The Rothschilds and other bankers sat in London and New York laughing while their poorer brethren died.

                • James Wherry

                  For those of you who don’t “get it,” tapatio is COWERING and denying his hatred of Jews. Here’s one of his many, many posts condemning Jews as “Jew filth.” What a pig he is.

                • NUTTY

                  Right on the nail tapaito.

                  • tapatio


            • James Wherry

              As a NAZ!, tapatio justifies human rights abuses, all the time.

              THESE ARE THE PALESTINIANS in the Middle East……………………..

              “A ‘people’ committing, supporting and defending the crimes below ARE A DISEASE and should be eradicated from this Earth………………..” – Tapatio

              Palestinian man forces his own small child to throw rocks at Israelis – then goads the Israelis “Go ahead and shoot him!”


              Palestinian leader: “slit the throats of all Jews” – men, women, and children!


              17-year old Palestinian creeps into 13-year old Jewish girl’s room and murders her: declared a “martyr!”


              Palestinians promote racism and religious bigotry by passing laws against JEWS.


              18-year old thug slashes the throat of 15-year old Jewish child and is declared “martyr.”


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      Hillary Clinton for Prison 2016

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    • SeaNote

      Wild animals don’t carry on like Arabs. They are more civilized.

    • MountainMan23

      With the Saudis overseeing “human rights” at the UN, British and American arms manufacturers can’t keep up with the “need” for more guns, planes, drones, bombs and ammunition. Cool deal the Brits made with the Saudis, isn’t it?


      When the U.S. ponied up with Saudi Arabia decades ago, the U.S. made a pact with the Great Satan. Turning a blind eye to the horrific injustices committed by the Saudis simply makes the United States a complicit enabler in the Saudi inhumanity. SHAME ON the Human Rights Council!