Texas Denies American-Born Children Of Immigrants Citizenship

"Even in the darkest hours of Texas’ history of discrimination, officials never denied birth certificates to Hispanic children of immigrants.”
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    For nearly 150 years, the United States, under the 14th Amendment, has recognized people born here as citizens, regardless of whether their parents were citizens.

    But Texas has other plans. In the last year, the state has refused to issue birth certificates to children who were born in Texas to undocumented parents. In May, four women filed a civil rights lawsuit against the Texas Department of State Health Services alleging constitutional discrimination and interference in the federal government’s authority over immigration.

    Jennifer Harbury, a lawyer with Texas RioGrande Legal Aid, who is representing the women, said the deluge of birth certificate refusals began last winter. “I’ve never seen such a large number of women with this problem,” she says. “In the past someone might be turned away, but it was always resolved. This is something altogether new.”


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    According to the lawsuit, the women who requested birth certificates for their children at the state’s vital statistics offices in Cameron and Hidalgo counties were turned away because of insufficient proof of their identities. State law allows the use of a foreign ID if the mother lacks a Texas driver’s license or a U.S. passport.

    But employees at the offices, which are run by the Texas Department of State Health Services, told the women they would no longer accept either the matricula consular, which is a photo ID issued by the Mexican Consulate to Mexican nationals living in the U.S., or a foreign passport without a current U.S. visa. Undocumented Central American women are also being turned away because they only have a passport without a U.S. visa. “They are locking out a huge chunk of the undocumented immigrant community,” says Harbury.

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      • Matt

        If a person is here illegally, it’s a crime at that time. Any baby born to a illegal, that child is here illegal too.
        The 14 th was for children of slaves after the civil war– not for anyone that sneaks into the USA. Yikes

      • Elaine Morris

        They invaded a Country then expect to be citizens.

      • Mom4boysn4dogs

        Went Dallas Texas to vist my x sister in law stayed on Webb chapel ext.for 12 days. Any way it was disturbing the way some of this immigrants act drunk and filthy!!! I don’t have problem with working class ones that are trying to better their situation but what I seen was gross.Which is prenty bad being I am from Orlando Florida and the apartments around there ignore what they do.Prostituion all over there and cops ignore it. What happen to taking pride in what and where you live and your kids are in danger.

        • Elaine Morris

          Jul 10, 2015 – Truth vs. perception of crime rates for immigrants …. And when you look at crime rates and correlate them with immigration populations, immigrants are ….. California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens. … Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers”.

          http://www.pbs.org/newshour/…/truth-vs-perception-crime-rates-immigran...

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        • Elaine Morris

          I know that area very well
          It “WAS” a great place to live. Now? It is dangerous place to be. It’s sad.

          • It’s very sad. The illegal alien moves in and the True American moves out of the area. It’s part of the liberal anti-American infection.

            President – USCERN & Texas Minutemen

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      • Say it ain’t so

        all this mess with texas and i wish the u.s could revoke my citizenship, i’d be a happy camper however now i have to pay $2350 to renounce my us citizenship, sux. wish there was a way where they could revoke it for free.

        • John Barranca

          Just move to Mexico they want you there. When will you leave? LOL

          • Say it ain’t so

            the day you learn to spell “leave” LOL

        • Sillycibin

          Are you watching Europe? These things aren’t a huge problem until they are a huge problem. Heaven forbid we try to avoid it.

        • al_literate

          Just head on across the border. I hear North Korea will help you out. Go on, you’ll like the workers paradise, and you can finally lose some weight! BONUS

          • Say it ain’t so

            not that easy kiddo. this country, because so many people are giving up their citizenship, are charging an arm and a leg to give it up. hence my asking if there was a way to do it for free, i’m still looking.

            • al_literate

              I’m sure Lil Kim will pick up the bill for you. Then you and Kim, and Dennis Rodman can all hang together.

          • Elaine Morris

            Anyone that goes into Mexico without permission is placed in Prison.

      • Mary Bausum

        Seems to me there’s a point that no one’s talking about. There’s a big difference between being issued a birth certificate and issues of citizenship. If you, American citizen, were in France and had a baby, you’d need a birth certificate to bring it back, right? Why would the U.S. accept that some new baby is actually yours without it? Some Texas hospitals won’t even issue the simple statement of the child’s birth–your birth certificate. That’s because they (i.e., someone) knows that then, by U.S. law, you become a citizen. And they just don’t like that constitutional law, so they’re doing what pleases them, not what’s legal. A record of a person’s birth should be accessible from the hospital. If one wants citizenship laws changed, one must tackle the constitution by way of one of the legal paths offered.

        • carlos aguilar

          Wrong, I am a first generation American citizen with a father was who was born in Mexico, my mother was born in America to 2 American citizens. My father was able to acquire his green card but never applied for the citizenship he is still a natural born Mexican citizen.

          We have a constitution written in plain English if you have a elementary education and some intellectual curiosity, you can read it and many works by the authors of all the sections clauses, and Amendments. Here’s what the author of the 14th amendments clause said when debating the clause on the floor of the Senate.

          Senator Lyman Trumball of Illinois – who was one of the main writers of this section of the 14th Amendment – addressed that question directly:

          “What do we mean by ‘subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?’ Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.”

          Sen. Reverdy Johnson of Maryland was just as specific:

          “Now, all that this amendment provides is, that all persons born in the United States and not subject to some foreign Power—for that, no doubt, is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us—shall be considered citizens of the United States.”

          So jurisdiction, if anyone was having a problem with the definition, refers to allegiance.

          Do children born outside of Mexico to Mexican Nationals need a birth certificate? No.

          Mexico’s State Department: Children born abroad

          Pregnancy and birth records: dated ultrasoundscontaining name of mother, laboratory test results, doctor/ultrasound/hospital receipts, pictures of the mother pregnant, pictures of mother and baby immediately following the birth and during the hospital stay.  Baby and mother’s hospital identification bracelets, crib card, discharge orders, paid hospital bill.

          In conclusion when someone wants to criticize America especially if you’re using the constitution to make your argument, research the appropriate material.

          One last thing. If you think America is such a racist, xenophobic, war mongering, greedy capitalist country the great thing is, we will absolutely let you leave and you don’t need to come.

          All these Agents of Dissolution.

        • John Varela

          Am I alone here hating the French???

      • Kathy Nelson

        Texas is following the original intent of the 14th Amendment and doing the right thing. It would be a good idea to have these illegals arrested at the time they make such an application and it is proved that they are in the country illegally. They can be kept in prison until there are enough to fill a bus to the border and their brats can be given to the Mexican consulate to look after and ship home to momma.

        • Fred

          United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled that a child born in the United States of Chinese citizens, who had at the time a permanent domicile and residence in the United States and who were carrying on business there other than for the Chinese government, automatically became a U.S. citizen.[1] This decision established an important precedent in its interpretation of the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark

          • Sillycibin

            A key point overlooked is that the immigrant parents were LEGAL. Illegal immigrants can be looked on as invaders and common law does not recognize children born to enemies on home soil.

          • John Varela

            The Chinese were very important in developing the railways that merchants and capitalism were dependent upon in the evolving United States. It is a disgrace that Whites still use their sense of entitlement in times of fear, need and uncertainty. Chinese railroad workers social security numbers were allocated in the 700 range. For those of you with no Real education we can date these early citizens back to the 1800s as well. Before Poor whites infested the land entirely. There were not always SSN allocations as some states did not yet exist. For example, my SSN starts with 521, a Colorado USA allocation set aside when Colorado became official. The 700 range was set for our hard working Chinese- Americans whom you should have an understanding and respect for.

            • John you’re another racist xenophobic hater. We Americans have had enough. Trash like yourself will be a thing of the past real soon. Has anyone noticed that Luis V. Gutierrez is silent. He must realize that it’s all coming to an end.

              • John Varela

                I hope you come knocking so I can show you what a Real American is boy.

              • Elaine Morris

                Pt 2:
                Judicial watch-
                The bloated federal agency charged with feeding the poor—and eradiating “food insecurity” in the U.S.—blew nearly $7 billion to provide “ineligible recipients” with the welfare benefit and there appears to be no end in sight to the fleecing.

                In fact, the agency, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), has for years violated a measure known as the Improper Payments Elimination and Recovery Act (IPERA) that requires agencies to conduct annual risk assessments to identify programs that make “significant improper payments” of $10 million or more. Not only has the USDA violated IPERA in the last four years, it also refuses to implement a more efficient verification process before doling out benefits by asserting that it would “create barriers for families that need help.”

                Last year the USDA made an astounding $6.9 billion of “improper payments,” according to a scathing report made public this week by the agency’s inspector general. Two programs accounted for a chunk of the money that was wasted; food stamps, officially known as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) to eliminate the stigma of welfare and the National School Lunch Program (NSLP) which cost American taxpayers a whopping $16 billion in 2014. Of the $6.9 billion in fraudulent payments made by the USDA, those two programs accounted for $4.2 billion. Thus, they have been coined “high-risk programs,” according to the USDA watchdog.

                The overwhelming majority of improper payments go to provide ineligible recipients with goods or services, the report confirms. This is par for the course at the USDA and the agency seems to have no intention of cleaning up its rolls. In fact, the agency goes out of its way to cover up wrongdoing in four of its most fraud-infested programs. “USDA is noncompliant with the improper payment requirements for a fourth consecutive year,” the report says. Not coincidentally, a separate probe conducted by the investigative arm of Congress, also found that the USDA needs to improve its verification process for program access. That report, also made public this week, focuses only on the National School Lunch Program, which is notorious for wasting millions of taxpayer dollars.

                Also this week, Congress held a special hearing to address waste, fraud and abuse in child nutrition programs operated by the USDA. At the hearing, held by the House Subcommittee on Early Childhood, Elementary and Secondary Education, witnesses identified misused taxpayer dollars in three of the nation’s largest child nutrition programs, which include school lunch and breakfast. The Forensic Audits and Investigative Service director at the Government Accountability Office (GAO) testified that both programs have been designated as “high-error” by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). In fact, nearly half of the households that received benefits were not eligible because their income exceeded eligibility guidelines, according to the director Jessica Lucas-Judy.

                Judicial Watch has reported extensively on the pervasive fraud and corruption in the government’s various food assistance programs, especially food stamps, which has grown immensely under President Obama. Last year JW reported that the government spent a mind-boggling $80.4 billion to give a record number of people—many who didn’t even qualify for the welfare benefit—free groceries. A few years ago JW uncovered documents that show illegal immigrants also receive food stamps from Uncle Sam under an outrageous initiative with the Mexican government to promote participation by undocumented aliens.
                Judicial Watch.
                —-
                Senior Citizens trying to live on their Social Security were denied as many as 15 times UNTIL they were forced to write to the Governor.

        • Say it ain’t so

          i wish the u.s could revoke my citizenship, i’d be a happy camper however now i have to pay $2350 to renounce my us citizenship, sux. wish there was a way where they could revoke it for free.

        • Elaine Morris

          I was born in Texas. I am still here. The Illegals come here for the American Dream.
          They buy TWO new cars; a new house then they raped every single social agency to pay their bills. In Texas we can have ONE summer electric bill paid. EVERY single agency screamed at Texas Citizens for asking for help ONE TIME. They were totally broke.

        • Elaine Morris

          There is a much easier way: Texas Governor Abbott suggested this:
          Idiots are trying to fight Our Gov. saying, “It isn’t Constitutional”. You idiots! They INVADED A COUNTRY!
          Texas Governor Harboring Illegals Felony
          Gov. Greg Abbott signed the bill, known as HB 11, into law by last year as part of an $800 million border security effort undertaken by the Legislature. Under one provision of HB 11, people who profit from, encourage or induce a person to enter or stay in the country illegally “by concealing, harboring, or shielding that person from detection” can be charged with various felony degrees. The charges depend on the age of the immigrant and whether he or she becomes victim of sexual assault or other crimes.
          The bill also creates the new crime of “continuous harboring” of immigrants for 10 days or more.

          Keep Reading:
          http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/0

          Texas Gov. Suggested anyone Hiring an Illegal should receive a fine of $25,000 per Illegal. If they are housed, the fine goes up to $50,000.
          I have written to my Gov. about the Liberal Judge who thinks we should allow Illegals to come here anytime they want to. The Judge is breaking a law that was never changed. It was ignored. Get him kicked off the bench.

      • DefianceGal .

        Find a way to fix it to where we are protecting our borders.. Quit moaning and whining. We The People need action. We don’t need words and fighting each other because someone has a different opinion than you. This is just nonsense. start petitions. drive those legislators crazy to where they say FINE!

      • Marshall Sattler

        Vote for Trump kick these illegals out of the country.

      • My Constitutionally acceptable solution of Illegal Immigrants, Anchor Baby’s:

        We remove kids with CPS over the dumbest crap already. Some of witch
        does not even involve breaking any laws. Why not remove a child when
        someone comes here to have one thus anchoring them self’s to America. We
        can then promptly deport the (Actual Criminals).

        This would send a strong message. Try to Anchor yourself with a child and we will take that child.

        This gives that child that committed no crime the opportunity to do
        right in a country they were born in wile punishing those that broke the
        law. Why not for once use CPS the way it should be used?

        Unlike a Liberal, I don’t call people racist, stupid or retarded when I disagree. I say why I disagree and offer another solution.

      • Sam Harris

        Texas is such a sh*thole is ridiculous. They are always doing outrageous things.

        • Sam I suggest you put your head back in the sand! #LiberalLogic The great state of Texas is the number 12th financial power in the world. You’re instructed to “Stand Down” with your liberal racist idiotic friends cause Texas will fix this!!

          My opinion on Illegal & Legal Immigration and our lawmakers need for them

          The relentless inactions of our first American of African descent president and his unwillingness to honor his oath to the American people.

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          • Sam Harris

            Yeah well my state beats Texas in the economic department anyway. Texas is a sh’thole that is why it has such a healthcare crisis and has had disasters because of no laws of regulation. Texas has high unemployment and has a lot of people on welfare. So something to be proud of I guess.

            • All lies. Your state just wants handouts. Texas is where everyone is coming to get away from the liberal haters. I guess now you’ll tell us Obuma deported more illegal aliens in 2013 than he did in 2012. All lies.

              My opinion on Illegal & Legal Immigration and our lawmakers need for them

              The relentless inactions of our first American of African descent president and his unwillingness to honor his oath to the American people.

              President – USCERN & Texas Minutemen

              Shannon (N5KOU) McGauley
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              • Sam Harris

                Yeah sorry it’s not we are the 7th largest economy in the world and Texas is still at 12th! :p

            • Sherri Kirkland

              Most that are on welfare are illegal immigrants. When your child goes to school and only three others in his class speak English maybe you will see the problem in a whole new light. I live in Texas. We are being overrun down here. Our schools have everything in Spanish nothing in English unless you ask for it. Our stores are no longer selling items that are American, the music over the loud speaker is in Spanish, the ads for Pizza and grocery store ads come in Spanish. Our local schools are drowning in overcrowding. When is their going to be enough? When? Do we wait until our resources dry up or do we try to recover. If immigration is so great for America then we should be on the top. We are not because illegal and legal immigration are hurting Americans and sucking us dry at every front. We cannot continue to pay more out then coming in. This is common sense.

              • Alfonso Moreno

                Most that are on welfare are illegal immigrants? Wrong! That has been proven false or myth and furthermore, these statistics have fluctuated a bit but remain the same fore the last 13 years…Statistic Verification Source: US Department of Health and Human Services, U.S. Department of Commerce, CATO InstituteResearch Date: August 1st, 2015Welfare Statistics Total number of Americans on welfare110,489,000Total number of Americans on food stamps41,700,000Total number of Americans on unemployment insurance10,200,000Percent of the US population on welfare35.4 %Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment)$131,900,000,000Welfare Demographics Percent of recipients who are white38.8 %Percent of recipients who are black39.8 %Percent of recipients who are Hispanic15.7 %Percent of recipients who are Asian2.4 %Percent of recipients who are Other3.3 %

                • Rick

                  So what! Legal citizens qualify for assistance NOT ILLEGALS! They steal it! Our citizens have every right to get help.

                  • Elaine Morris

                    A friend of mine (senior citizen) was having her Social Security pumped for Fed School Loans that didn’t exist. She tried 14 times to get food stamps; and couldn’t get them vs. The Illegals who received 1.5 Billion Dollars in food stamps and other welfare benefits.
                    It took to Gov. to step in to help her!!

          • Sam Harris

            Stand down on your own because the supreme court will just knock your butts out of the park with it hahahaha they already blocked your abortion law. 😀

        • Elaine Morris

          So? Breaking the law by “INVADING” a country is outrageous?!!!

          • Sam Harris

            Yeah mexicans have been there before white people got there, it’s been their’s more than america’s and they have more of a right to be there than white people anyway.

            • Well I’ve ruled. Mexico has no claim to America (not america). The infestation of all illegal aliens and visa over stayers stops now! True Americans want the laws enforced not ignored contrary to what the anti-American liberal simpleton says.

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              • Sam Harris

                Well you are not the king of Texas so stop with your bs. So your opinion matters not. Damn some of you white folks are full of yourself it’s ridiculous. The only simpletons who I see are those who want to turn America back 50 years so they could enforce segregation. That would be ridiculous conservatives.

                Signed,

                An American Citizen 😀

                • More like anti-American traitor. You’re finished! You’ve been exposed hater! You’re a cancer to America. Spread your lie elsewhere racist! It’s not about segregation. It’s about the Rule of Law. You will no longer be allowed to deflect from the truth!

                  President – USCERN & Texas Minutemen

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                  Join us while we save America and the rule of law for Operation: “Game Over” in Texas. Volunteer or Support our 2016 & 2017 Border Watches. #DonaldTrump 2016 to Make America GREAT again!!

                  • Sam Harris

                    Hahahaha the fact that this country doesn’t belong to you, you don’t have a patent on patriotism and the fact that my family helped establish america is what I find ironic. If anyone is more american that would be me. I am racist? Lol, I am not the one talking about trying to obstruct the constitution like you are. The constitution you swear by if it fits your agenda is the problem and when it doesn’t than it’s anti-american.

                    • This country belongs to real American ultranationalist only. Not anti-American miscreant like yourself. It’s best if you just Stand Down, every time you respond you prove your anti-Americanism. No true American, no American refers to America as (american) shame on you hater!

                      The Texas Minutemen succeeded in the El Paso sector with a new fence and happy landowners. Join us now for Operation “Verboten” – https://www.facebook.com/events/1551377651554467/

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                      Join us while we save America and the rule of law for Operation: “Game Over” in Texas. Volunteer or Support our 2016 & 2017 Border Watches. #DonaldTrump 2016 to Make America GREAT again!!

                      • Sam Harris

                        I am very american 😀 You just don’t like the fact that I don’t share your crazy views. I stand up as a proud american and use my first amendment right for free speech. Why don’t you stand down with your nonsense. I will fight for equality in this country and not have racist views like you carry. If it were for liberals than segregation would still be in effect. 😀

                  • Sam Harris

                    Lol I am a traitor? What planet are you on? You don’t have a patent on patriotism, your opinion matters not to me whatsoever. My family helped discover the USA, that is a fun fact for you. They have been here since 1535. Wayyy before your’s ever expanded here, besides me being native american on my maternal side means thousands of years here :D. Cancer are people like you who want to turn america back to the segregation era of American history. Allowed to deflect that you don’t like hearing historical fact? Lol that is hilarious. I’m racist? I am not the one who as bill maher quoted ” To make America white again”

                    • Your family failed you. You don’t refer to American as american. You’re a disgrace to your fellow American (spelled correctly). If you family helped discover America they’re rolling over in their graves because of your actions.

                      The Texas Minutemen succeeded in the El Paso sector with a new fence and happy landowners. Join us now for Operation “Verboten” – https://www.facebook.com/events/1551377651554467/

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                      • Sam Harris

                        a new happy fence that hasn’t stopped people 😀 if people want to come they will find a way despite a stupid wall.

                        • Sammy let the adults have this. Go stand in the corner!! I just returned from the border. I met journalist from France, England and Belgium. Guess what they did. Interviewed farmers and ranchers about how the NEW FENCE is working. Spread your lies someplace else. Reagan was right, liberal know so much that isn’t true!

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                        • Sam Harris

                          Well I wonder how that could possibly work for England since it’s an island. So no they don’t have an issue with immigrants they way the usa does. So why don’t you got sit in a corner with a dunce hat on and when you are ready you can come back to your desk to learn some actual geography.

              • Sam Harris

                You sir are ridiculous and the minutemen are nothing but a bunch of rednecks. Anyway the fact that Texas is NOT above federal law and are breaking the law not giving the children their birth certificates so it doesn’t matter what YOU rule. That is hilarious by the way. Your opinion matters not. The fact that the state was sued and then a case settled that Texas CANNOT deny children of immigrants illegal or not a birth certificate under the constitution. A true American would know it’s laws and not try to circumvent them now would they? But then Texas’s laws have been overturned by the supreme court in a lot of things. Anyway Texas has to give them birth certificates and Texas is a spanish named state because Mexicans have been there before your people ever got there anyway.

                Signed an Educated American Citizen.

                • You’re talking out your backside. Stick to what you think you know! The Texas Minutemen Observe and Report. You liberals and your pet words have no power any longer. I’ll splain it to you simpleton. The goal is to create “STANDING”! Understand? You demorat liberals are scared that the Rule of Law will prevail. STAND DOWN, we got this hater!

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                  • Sam Harris

                    The minutemen are still a bunch of redneck hicks as I stated. Lawless idiots who think they are doing this country a favor is hilarious. You watch? If you had your way you would be vigilante and I wouldn’t be surprised if you have done that too. The mentality of nut balls like you is what is scary. I stand up sir not down 😉 That is what I do as an American and exercise my freedom of speech 😀

                    • Sam, Sam, Sam, you know not what you speak. The Minutemen are patriots that Observe and Report to border patrol only. Only simple minded liberal haters like yourself would think otherwise. I can understand you being upset with years of liberal demorat lawlessness coming to an end. If we were vigilantes, there wouldn’t be a border patrol fool!

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                      • Sam Harris

                        Shannon are you full of yourself or what? Liberal lawlessness? hahahahaha that is hilarious. I said if you wanted to be vigilantes I wouldn’t put it passed to try to do that. Shannon conservatives like you are the true simple minded thats why texas has progressed much and that is why the USA will continue to progress and not turn backward like you people wish it would.

                        • Sorry I had to out you Sam but I can no longer allow anti-American haters like yourself to spread your lies any longer.

                          YOU’RE DISMISSED!!

                        • Sam Harris

                          hahahahha that is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh I needed it.

          • Sam Harris

            Who say all are breaking the law? There are more american citizens in prison than illegals. That should tell you something right there.

      • I don’t understand why “immigration” is honestly such a serious issue for some people. Personally, I think that Mexico should have merged with the United States, it would have probably been better for both nations in the long run, but as it is, that cannot be so at this point.

        • ChristinaBistes

          You obviously don’t live in a border state. I just went to Ohio & it was like being back in America. And why is it such a problem? Everywhere illegals take over in a city, it gets run down and businesses close and the area ends up looking like a third world country. When they use a public restroom, they throw their used, butt & pee wiped toilet paper on the floor(great hygiene) Our schools have been dumbed down by their refusal to learn English. My tax dollars have to support these moochers. I can’t go through a drive through an order a hamburger & drink because the moron taking my order can hardly put 2 words of intelligible English together. And lastly, they take jobs away from the millions of legal Americans that need the work. I’m a 3rd generation American who came from LEGAL immigrants that made their children speak English even in the home. I would never be so arrogant as to live in another country and expect them to learn to speak with me. And get your facts straight, we’re talking ILLEGAL immigration which is a felony, not legal immigrants.

          • JAENC

            I live in a border state, albeit one that most Americans have no clue is on the US border, nor that we have the busiest international border in the country. I live in Michigan. Illegal aliens may come to Michigan, but they don’t have a lot of luck maneuvering our State agencies. If you aren’t an Amercian, and if you aren’t here legally, we aren’t offering you pie with whipped cream to stay here. What a concept. Of course, most Canadians aren’t the illegal immigrants who clash with Michigan laws. There are some Hispanics, some Arabics, lots of Russians and Poles and others who came over cuz the Eastern Bloc disintegrated, but if you don’t have a built-in ethnic support system to hide you and pay you under the table, you don’t have a wealth of resources sitting there to pander to you and make it seem like staying illegally is a great idea.

            • Alfonso Moreno

              That is a flat out lie. I resided in Kalamazoo and I never had a problem with some of the people who were there illegally. Cherry pickers, farm workers are in the 100k and have been living in Michigan illegally. Take that Crapola somewhere else. That goes with the lies and myths: Most that are on welfare are illegal immigrants? Wrong! That has been proven false or myth and furthermore, these statistics have fluctuated a bit but remain the same fore the last 13 years…Statistic Verification Source: US Department of Health and Human Services, U.S. Department of Commerce, CATO InstituteResearch Date: August 1st, 2015Welfare Statistics Total number of Americans on welfare110,489,000Total number of Americans on food stamps41,700,000Total number of Americans on unemployment insurance10,200,000Percent of the US population on welfare35.4 %Total government spending on welfare annually (not including food stamps or unemployment)$131,900,000,000Welfare Demographics Percent of recipients who are white38.8 %Percent of recipients who are black39.8 %Percent of recipients who are Hispanic15.7 %Percent of recipients who are Asian2.4 %Percent of recipients who are Other3.3 %

              • JAENC

                What? Your accusations that I am lying make literally no sense. I never claimed most illegals are on welfare, in fact I said that illegals have a hard time maneuvering the Michigan agencies. ID is required to apply for any benefits, as well as proof of legal residency. I don’t know who you were responding to, but an apology for what you wrote to me would be appropriate.

      • alfie0077

        They are not ‘immigrants’ they are illegal alien Catholic invaders.
        Invaders should be met at the border with full armament be every able bodied man in the USA.

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          • pat

            Shannon – You can clearly see why these 3rd World people fail in their own Countries, we have too many that are nothing but a Box of Rocks for brains. They want to stay here and yet they spew their hate for this Country and it’s people, especially white people. Then they expect us to want them here. Talk about dumb and dumber!!! They really think that a handful of Democrats are going to keep them here.

            • That’s why Latin America, Democrats, Republicans and illegal law breaking criminal aliens from all countries want the lawlessness to continue and someone like #DonaldTrump threatens this criminal activity. I believe that this is our chance to take our country back from all anti-Americans!

              My opinion on Illegal & Legal Immigration and our lawmakers need for them

              The relentless inactions of our first American of African descent president and his unwillingness to honor his oath to the American people.

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              • alfie0077

                Latin America, Democrats, Republicans and illegal law breaking criminal aliens from all countries just happen to be all Catholic.

        • Sam Harris

          Your an idiot. I am a u.s. citizen and i am catholic. Being catholic is not a nationality but a religion that encompasses many countries. it’s the largest christian denomination in the world. So please get over yourself with your ridiculous nonsense.

          • alfie0077

            So, you have a hundred nations south of the USA. Give me a nice little list of two that are successful and why. I am waiting. waiting. waiting. THERE ARE NONE!

            • Sam Harris

              Brazil and Mexico are actually doing well financially just to let you know 🙂 Mexico is 15th largest economy in the world and Brazil is the 7th largest but California will soon over take them for that title.

              • Best_Reviews

                So let em walk to Brazil then.

                • Sam Harris

                  That is your reply? Seriously? If you are going to ask me questions than have something to talk about not a stupid comment like this.

                  • alfie0077

                    Come up with good answers instead of numbers that are meaningless.

                    • Sam Harris

                      You really are just dumb when you can actually talk to me without using racist terms then I will listen otherwise I will not be replying back

                    • Sam Harris

                      What I stated was not meaningless at all the economies are as I stated, stooge.

                      • Don’t pay attention to #Sam. He is in bed with the illegal aliens and is full of the liberal BS. He is unable to support America or Americans. California the root of all evil. That’s why so many people have moved out of that cesspool.

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              • alfie0077

                FAIL
                The
                Gross Domestic Product per capita in Brazil was last recorded at
                5969.68 US dollars in 2014. The GDP per Capita in Brazil is equivalent
                to 47 percent of the world’s average. GDP per capita in Brazil averaged
                3831.59 USD from 1960 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 6010.79
                USD in 2013 and a record low of 1706.13 USD in 1960. GDP per capita in
                Brazil is reported by the World Bank.

                • Sam Harris

                  It’s the 7th largest economy in the world as of 2015 in the world moron. So sorry not a fail it even beats Texas which is 12th still :p

                  • Sherri Kirkland

                    I bet it does beat Texas, because Texas is only one part of our country. How about pick out any of their smaller districts and Texas will blow them out of the water.

                  • Marshall Sattler

                    But cali is broke it has to borrow money from the feds to keep their socialist programs going,Texas is wealthy look at the debt level. Texas law does not allow debt to be carried past a year. We only allow welfare to be collected up to 5 years maximum.We don’t even pay out more then minimum wage ‘it equals 6.00 per hour.We will not listen to the courts because what we are doing is a void in the law. It states you must be able to ID your kids ,with a legal ID well we don’t accept a mexican ID because it is not a passport or an id issued in the us.

              • Sherri Kirkland

                We give aid to those countries every year. That is the point. We have given them money for years yet they just keep taking it and not helping their people. If they were helping them, then they would not becoming here. Illegal immigrants send most of their pay to their home country. That money is no longer in our system. What do we owe these people? Nothing. The people in the United States need help. We are the ones who have paid into these safety nets for years and are told their is no money left.

          • alfie0077

            Catholic is a cult that has destroyed every nation they kiss.

            • Not to mention that #California is one of the root of evil!

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      • larrymotuz

        If Texas can harm women and children, it will … regardless of the Constitution of the United States. It has proven time and again that it will harm the most vulnerable ‘born’ persons–the most poor, the homeless, the long-term unemployed, the elderly and now newborns–while protecting any ‘person’ as yet unborn.

        Interesting how they officially recognize the fetus as a person but won’t recognize a new baby as one also.

        • Nice try. Illegal is problem. Please try again!

          • larrymotuz

            HOW IS THE NEWBORN AN ILLEGAL? DENYING A BIRTH CERTIFICATE EFFECTIVELY MAKES THE CHILD WITHOUT CITIZENSHIP ANYWHERE.

            • Old Soldier

              And that’s Texas’ fault how?
              The illegal parents should have thought about that before breaking the law. The 14th Amendment was NOT written to be abused.

              • larrymotuz

                Nor was it written to exclude any new born children from its protections. Furthermore, to refuse to document a birth makes it impossible for that newborn to be a citizen of any country … effectively stateless … which is a far greater crime than the one you are so upset about. Being stateless, because no one can be bothered to document your birth, is a condition no one could ever want, especially for a newborn child.

                • CB1138

                  XIVth was mean to apply to slaves brought here against their will, and to their descendants born here. It was not meant to apply to people who intentionally break laws to be hear, and to their children.

                  • catsrock

                    CB1138,
                    The Amendment very clearly states that ALL persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens.
                    Unless you are trying to argue that people whose parents are here without documents are not people, you have no case.
                    The Supreme Court ruled against your argument one hundred seventeen years ago. You lose.

                    • CB1138

                      “All” yes, but also “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”. Being born here is not enough. And the Supreme Court didn’t rule against it. It was a footnote in the decision. That is far short of a ruling. But keep trying because I see the beginnings of reasoning and learning in your comments.

                      • alfie0077

                        Catholics have the dogma. Remove brain, insert dogma and never think again.

                        • CB1138

                          Check out “On the Immorality of Illegal Immigration” by Father Patrick J. Bascio, C.S. Sp. published 2009.

                    • alfie0077

                      Vote for ANY Catholic and you like the following:

                      YOU like to pay for the free Bommacare for every one of the 60 million illegal alien Catholic invaders
                      YOU like Open borders for the illegal alien Catholic invaders so we can have more
                      more more!
                      YOU want Unlimited crime from the illegal alien Catholic invaders. (We need more crime!)
                      YOU want Unlimited pollution and population from the illegal alien Catholic invaders.
                      (The USA can be just as polluted as everything south of the USA!)
                      YOU like the ‘anchor’ ‘citizens’ who will never speak English, and not graduate from high
                      school.

                      YOU will pay for the incarceration in prison. To boot, a momma that will not be deported.
                      YOU will pay for the ‘momma’ debit card from the USDA forever!
                      YOU want the momma to stay in the USA forever and never get deported.
                      Since
                      all the folks you have to vote against are whyte, elected Catholic
                      traitors the race card is invalid., and for the same reason the ‘bigot’
                      card is worthless.

                    • pat

                      They are not under US jurisdictions as meant Constitutionally, and it also states ”and the state they reside in”, they can’t claim residency and are citizens of the Country they came from, under their jurisdiction. This part of the Constitution was meant for slaves. The Bill is Congress HR140 will stop this nonsense.

                  • larrymotuz

                    At the time there was no problem with illegal immigration, so, in that very restricted sense, its object was to ensure that all persons born in the United States –in particular those who were slaves or descended from them, were citizens. Note, however, that some slaves bought their freedom and, upon doing so — well before the 14th Amendment was ratified, these were birthright citizens of the United States. It was slavery and racism that denied not only citizenship, but personhood itself, to enslaved blacks. And it took nearly a century before the second major Civil Rights Act was passed by Pres. Lyndon Baynes Johnson in 1964.

                    The common law right to birthright citizenship extends to well before the Magna Carta, even if freedom did not extend to all.

                    • alfie0077

                      The term ‘illegal immigration’ is not possible in English. the word ‘immigration means legal. They are illegal alien Catholic invaders. Invaders are met at every nation with full arms full military, and full weaponry. Well, now that a third of all elected are Catholic traitors, not so much . Destruction from within destroys every nation. ‘
                      Please give me the name of just one nation south of the USA that is successful…. I am waiting. Failure, total failure is what the Catholics bring to any nation, and for-evermore.

                      • larrymotuz

                        This is one of the most absurd comments I have ever read, alfie0077.

                        I am not interested in your soapbox opinions.

                        • alfie0077

                          I made specific charges. you sidestepped. you have to be a brain ded Catholic.

                          Give me the name of one successful nation south of the USA. All are Catholic so it should be easy for you .

                        • alfie0077

                          Where is the error? One liners come from those that have the dogma and cannot carry out a full thought. Your simple assignment is to tell me a nice successful Catholic nation anywhere south of the USA. You have a hundred nations to choose from. I am waiting.

                        • larrymotuz

                          You brought up Catholics. I did not. I am not a Catholic.

                          You clearly hate them.

                          I don’t talk with bigots.

                        • alfie0077

                          You are not correct. I hate failure. I hate total failure even more. The Vatican is a total failure. A hundred nations a thousand years and not one success at all.
                          Stating the truth nullifies the bigot card.

                        • larrymotuz

                          Where is ‘the’ error?

                          That’s the wrong question. The right question is, “What have I said that is true rather than what I believe to be true?” You will find an infinity of errors in your opinion if you ask that question, just as I have.

                          Thomas Paine was quite correct when he said, “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”

                          Therefore …

                        • alfie0077

                          Thomas Paine also said The Vatican is a dagger in the heart of Italy.

                          Vote for ANY Catholic and you like the following:

                          YOU like to pay for the free Bommacare for every one of the 60 million illegal alien Catholic invaders
                          YOU like Open borders for the illegal alien Catholic invaders so we can have more
                          more more!
                          YOU want Unlimited crime from the illegal alien Catholic invaders. (We need more crime!)
                          YOU want Unlimited pollution and population from the illegal alien Catholic invaders.
                          (The USA can be just as polluted as everything south of the USA!)
                          YOU like the ‘anchor’ ‘citizens’ who will never speak English, and not graduate from high
                          school.

                          YOU will pay for the incarceration in prison. To boot, a momma that will not be deported.
                          YOU will pay for the ‘momma’ debit card from the USDA forever!
                          YOU want the momma to stay in the USA forever and never get deported.
                          Since
                          all the folks you have to vote against are whyte, elected Catholic
                          traitors the race card is invalid., and for the same reason the ‘bigot’
                          card is worthless.

                        • larrymotuz

                          You need psychiatric care, alfie0077.

                        • alfie0077

                          I will go as soon as you tell me a nice successful nation south of the USA.
                          You know where the employment is nice, nice wages, good health care good retirement. Hey, just like the USA used to be before the Catholic traitors started with the wrecking of the USA by getting in all the 60 million illegal alien Catholic invaders.

                        • larrymotuz

                          If the U.S. government had not deposed democratic regimes in many South American countries by planning, aiding and abetting coups d’états, there would be many successful nations there.

                          You have a hate on for Catholics. If you choose to hate, which I find silly, fine. Just don`t ignore the devastation American foreign policy has visited upon these countries.

                        • alfie0077

                          Wow a hundred nations south of the USA and every one of them destroyed by the USA!
                          OOps There are a bunch over across the pond. Try the PIIGS. All but one are Catholic and because of the failure, are called the PIIGS. Greece almost got away, and then it would be just the Catholic PIIS that is failed for sure.

                        • alfie0077

                          You are an expert at sidestepping. Several accusations were made.. you have not responded with any item which was not factual.
                          You must have had some sessions with the pervert in the black sack.

                        • pat

                          Illegal aliens are not immigrants, they are what they are..illegal aliens. Just because you jump a border or overstay a visa doesn’t make you an immigrant. Illegal immigrant, undocumented, whatever is an oxymoron.

                        • larrymotuz

                          A rose by any other name is still a rose. So is a pile of horse manure.

                        • Exactly! Illegal aliens are criminals! $DeportThemNow!

                        • pat

                          An illegal alien by any other name is still an illegal alien.

                    • pat

                      It also states ”under the jurisdictions thereof and the state they reside in”. Illegal alien invaders are not under US jurisdictions as meant constitutionally, no matter where they are born they are automatically Mexican citizens. In addition states ”and the state they reside in”. Illegal alien invaders CAN’T CLAIM RESIDENCY. Therefore, there citizenship in this Country is not valid and that is the basis of Bill HR140 that will stop this nightmare birthright citizenship when it is passed.

                      • larrymotuz

                        No> no Mexican citizen can show up with a child without any birth certificate and expect Mexican authorities to take their word for it that this is their child. Deny birth certificates and you are literally creating stateless persons.

                        • So be it! The lawlessness stops in Tejas! No mas!

                        • larrymotuz

                          Stop the lawlessness: Issue Birth Certificates!

                        • pat

                          No problem, stamped NOT A U.S.CITIZEN.

                  • larrymotuz

                    At the time there was no problem with illegal immigration, so, in that very restricted sense, its object was to ensure that all persons born in the United States –in particular those who were slaves or descended from them, were citizens. Note, however, that some slaves bought their freedom and, upon doing so — well before the 14th Amendment was ratified, these were birthright citizens of the United States. It was slavery and racism that denied not only citizenship, but personhood itself, to enslaved blacks. And it took nearly a century before the second major Civil Rights Act was passed by Pres. Lyndon Baynes Johnson in 1964.

                    The common law right to birthright citizenship extends to well before the Magna Carta, even if freedom did not extend to all.

            • Just be prepared, the lawlessness is almost over!

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              • larrymotuz

                I think this organization is ‘out to lunch’. And that’s phrasing my view very euphemistically.

                • I know change scares you. The thought of the lawlessness you’ve become use to will soon be over. That must upset you!

                  • larrymotuz

                    What scares me is people who act in ignorance about the common law of ‘jus soli’ that the United States sought to preserve in fashioning the 13th and 14th Amendments.

                    You do not understand the meanings of the 13th and the 14th Amendments, their history, nor what they were intended to reverse or nullify.

                    You would like to end ‘jus soli birthright’ citizenship. Whereas you could be proposing ‘filiated’ citizenship (a.k.a ‘just sanguinis’) [like that of many Scandinavian countries where ‘birthright’ citizenship is bestowed only upon those born of ‘born or naturalized’ citizens].

                    I have no objection to ‘jus sanguinis’ restrictions on citizenship. I object very much, however, when birth certificates are not issued to a newborn, for that can make that newborn a child without a country. This is an issue you appear to have swept under the rug in the rush to deny any recognition of these children as born in the United States.

                    • Your fear shows!

                      • larrymotuz

                        I have tried to talk sensibly with an idiot.

                        My fault for even trying to point to you what you might be able to do … which clearly you cannot comprehend.

                      • larrymotuz

                        Second post: JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ABOUT 60 PER CENT OF AMERICANS WOULD LOSE THEIR CITIZENSHIP IF ‘JUS SOLI’ WAS ABANDONED.

                        Clearly, you have not thought of the repercussions: the unintended consequences of your rather shallow thought about such impacts and effects on American. Those must be addressed.

                        You can’t address them because you do not even know the law that you are challenging or the impacts your ignorance would cause.

                        • Your weak attempts at deflection won’t work with us true Americans. We don’t want citizenship passed on to any illegal law breaking criminal aliens no matter where they’re from. We only want people that swear loyalty to America and Americans. We want the visa over stayers gone as well! We want America back!

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                        • larrymotuz

                          True Amercans? My ancestry in the Americas goes back some 10,000-12,000 years by descent.

                          You are the illegal alien.

                        • Then you’ve fallen as an American. You bring shame to Americans and America. You should be ashamed of how you’ve turned your back on Americans so your liberal conspirators can destroy America. You really need to have the #Ameriphobia looked at!

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                        • larrymotuz

                          Grow up! You reason like a child.

                        • pat

                          Sorry, we’re not the ones subject to deportation. America is our Country like 99% of the world refers to it as such. It’s on a Continent, it’s not a Continent. Only illegal alien invaders choose to use the Anti-American rhetoric that just because we are referred to as America that gives you a right to be here…guess what..NOT. That’s why you’re subject to deportation and we’re not. That’s another reason you shouldn’t be here, you will never assimilate to the American way when you try to demean this Country and it’s people. We are the Native Americans of THIS country, get over it.

                        • Pat they are so afraid that the lawlessness they become use to will soon be a thing of the past!

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                        • larrymotuz

                          Why would you think I am subject to deportation when my family has over 10,000 years of settlement in America — some 9500 years before you and yours.

                          Grow up.

                        • pat

                          Because illegal aliens use the same old rhetoric, they think because they are born on the continent they should be American citizens of this Country.

                        • I’ve heard all the excuses! It’s all BS!

                        • What a lie. The Indians haven’t been here that long. I think stick to writing children’s books!

                        • larrymotuz

                          Just shows how ignorant you are.

                        • pat

                          Now, let me ask the question were you born in the Country UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?? Not the Continent, Since we have been been a Country for 9500 years my guess is you are using the typical illegal alien line, ”we’re all Americans” because they come from the Continent. Too bad illegals don’t know the difference between a Country and a Continent.

                        • larrymotuz

                          First, I am not an American citizen and I would decline any opportunity to become one. Nor, second, do I live in the United States. I do, however, think the problems that you have with refugees are serious.

                          I also think that they need to be properly addressed. I don’t believe that Texas can either confer or deny citizenship to anyone, and I think that when Texans think this way and take matters into their own hands, then they are doing more harm than good. There are constitutional processes that must be brought into play … and that no one is appearing to bring into play.

                          I probably know more about your country than most Americans do.

                          I wish you and yours well, but I fear that an age of insanity has overtaken your politics.

                        • catsrock

                          Shannon,
                          “True American”? You?

                        • pat

                          There is no doubt in my mind that your figures are wrong. The total of first generation and 2nd generation with at least one parent not being born here is about 60 million, that means 250 million are native born and at least 2nd generation. Also, no doubt in my mind that once the illegal aliens are forced to leave, this country will be a much better place as it was before the millions invaded.

                        • larrymotuz

                          None of these would be citizens by descent if you insist upon juris sanguanis. There are third generation non-citizens in Switzerland who have no citizenship as Swiss. That is what juris sanguinis — citizenship by descent — leads to.

                    • pat

                      They can go back to their countries, where they belong and get a birth certificate or Mexican Embassy. The US and Canada maybe the only developed countries that allow this anyhow, now, the illegals pop them out to get citizenship.

                      • larrymotuz

                        Their countries will not accept them without proof of birth to citizens. And, since you are for not issuing such proofs of descent (i.e., birth certificates), you are majorly adding to the problem of stateless persons.

                        Cognitive dissent is a barrier to treating people as the human beings they are. Denying birth certificates only harms newborns.

                        • Well I guess the children inherit their parents sin. CASE CLOSED!

                        • pat

                          Oh please, documentation of birth can be given without citizenship.

                        • larrymotuz

                          When birth certificates are not issued, what documentation are you talking about.

                        • pat

                          One that’s stamped..NOT A U.S. CITIZEN.

                        • larrymotuz

                          Which is not for Texas to decide, Pat.

                          If you wish to move a Constitutional amendment, then do so.

                          Otherwise you are playing with fire.

                        • We are creating Legal Standing, thanks to the illegal aliens having anchor babies. The lawlessness is almost over!!

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                        • larrymotuz

                          But isn’t.

                        • Tell the illegal aliens to not break our laws and they won’t have to worry about it!

              • catsrock

                The lawlessness is almost over? Does that mean, Shannon, that you are going away and taking your hate group with you?

                • Twist it all you want. Observing and reporting isn’t hating. We help law enforcement with our eyes. Spread you anti-American trash somewhere else. You been exposed!

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            • Warren Serkin

              Just how uninformed and/or dense are you. The child takes on the citizenship of it’s parents. If the parents are from China, the child is Chinese. If the parents are from Mexico, the child is Mexican. What’s so hard about that to understand.

              • larrymotuz

                Far more informed and intelligent that you are about the difference between ‘jus soli” and “jus sanguanis’ and how to change things. But, all I get is bleats by the emotionally driven who don’t care to try to think anything through. 60 per cent of existing Americans would lose citizenship under jus sanguinis…unless that was prevented, and none of the idiots beating their drums have a clue about how to fix that.

                • Sometime you JCFS! Americans wouldn’t be effected because one of their parents would be a US citizens. We want the illegal aliens to stop receiving birth right citizenship! Our founding fathers wouldn’t have wanted this invasion to take place.

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                  • catsrock

                    Shannon,
                    Our Sacred Founding Fathers most certainly would not have wanted the likes of you speaking for them. Also, can you share with us what the men who wrote the Constitution actually said about “illegal aliens”? That they would have included among the powers of Congress the power “To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” (Article I Section 8 clause 4) indicates that they saw as potential citizens the people you dismiss as “illegal”. In other words, citizenship and residency are determined ‘jus soli” not “jus sanguanis’

                    • Nice try traitor! You’re anti-American. Everyone can see it!

                    • pat

                      You will lose, Americans are not going to tolerate it anymore. We realize that many of these illegals want to take over, they have no loyalty to this Country.

                      • catsrock

                        No, Pat, it’s you who have no loyalty, or respect, for this country

                        • The day of liberal American haters is almost over!

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                      • Your racist comments won’t help you here. We secured the El Paso sector and lawless supporters like yourself can only call true Americans names rather than support Americans and America. Shame on you racist. The founding fathers would have given all our volunteers medals!

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                      • alfie0077

                        You can say it. They are illegal alien Catholic invaders. That makes it more clear! Think carefully before you cast your next ballot.

                • Warren Serkin

                  There you go ASS-uming again. I’m well aware as to the meaning of Jus Soli (of the soil) and Jus Sanguanis. It’s easy to fix. Any born of parents who are here illegally are not U.S. citizens but are citizens of the country their parents are citizens of. If we stop giving away free citizenship (which, by the way, the 14th amendment was never meant to apply to) pregnant illegals would stop coming here to drop kids and to leach off the U.S. Citizens. All it would take to change that would be a re interpretation of the amendment by the U.S. Supreme Court since the 14th was originally intended to apply only to Native Americans and to the children of slaves and not to Illegal Aliens. Nice try, thanks for playing. And your 60% figure is way over bloated.

                  • catsrock

                    Warren Serkin,
                    Actually, Native Americans (aka the indigenous, ab-original people also referred to as “American Indians”) who lived on, were recognized as members of a tribe, who were born on reservations were excluded because the reservations were seen as separate nations. Congress made all “Native Americans” citizens under the same rules that applied to everyone else in 1924, Indian Citizenship Act.
                    If the 14th Amendment applies only to native born people and former slaves, then you’ve pulled the rug out from under yourself. “Native born” mean born here. “Illegal aliens” were not excluded because no such classification existed until 1924.

                    • pat

                      Actually the Indians were given a choice of citizenship, some are not citizens by choice that’s why we have no jurisdictions on reservations.

                      • catsrock

                        pat,
                        The United States has jurisdiction. American Indians/Native Americans are American citizens as per the 1924 Indian Citizenship Act: “all non citizen Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States be, and they are hereby, declared to be citizens of the United States”. Tribal lands, aka “reservations”, are considered within the territorial limits of the United States and are designated “domestic dependent nations”. The United States has jurisdiction over the Indian Nations as established by the Indian Appropriations Act of 1871. And no, American Indians cannot choose to be or not to be citizens. They are stuck with citizenship by birth just like all the rest of us who are citizens because we were born within the territorial limits of the United States.
                        Now what does that have to do with the citizenship status of persons born here?.

                    • Warren Serkin

                      I do believe you know full well that, when I referred to Native Born, I was referring to “Native Americans” and not just to anyone who had the good fortune to be born here.
                      Just belied your own argument. If, as you say, there was no classification for “Illegal Aliens” when the 14th amendment was written, it doesn’t apply to them and doesn’t give them birthright citizenship.

                      • catsrock

                        Warren Serkin,
                        Do you have any idea how stupid what you posted is? Give this another week and you’re looking at a puissant county clerk in Texas facing jail time for contempt.

                        • Warren Serkin

                          I certainly have a good idea how stupid and idiotic your posts are. Of course, you’re looking at things through a twisted, warped, liberal viewpoint, so I’m not surprised in the least.

                  • larrymotuz

                    Sorry, I didn’t see your reply until just a minute ago, though you posted it 18 days ago.
                    Many of the ‘illegals’ do not even have the ‘documentation’ that could verify that they are, indeed, citizens of any country. A lot arrive after having passed through other nations, and their country of origin is highly unlikely to agree, without substantive proof, that these are ‘their’ citizens.

                    Many economic and social refugees are precisely in that situation. Nobody wants them, and they cannot even prove that they are citizens in their countries of origin.
                    Others might be shipped back where they will be killed for having the wherewithal to have left.

              • larrymotuz

                How uninformed and dense you are. You actually believe that, in most countries, all you have to do is show up with a child and claim it’s yours for that child to be granted citizenship.

                Without a birth certificate showing a newborn is theirs, the child is stateless and without citizenship until it can be proven to the satisfaction of the parent’s country that this is their child. For all the state knows, they could have kidnapped this child.

                You probably consider that far-fetched, but all that shows is how little you actually know about what is required under the laws of most countries, including your own.

                • Warren Serkin

                  No, dimwit, that;’s not what I believe but the problem doesn’t belong to the citizens of this country to solve. If you come here illegally and punch out a kid, it’s on you to prove to your home country that the kid is yours. Besides, the 14th amendment was never meant to apply to the children of those here illegally but only to Native Americans and the children of slaves. We could change that very easily by have the Supreme Court re interpret the amendment. Take away all financial and social support from those here illegally, make the job applicant for ANY JOB prove that they are here legally and have a right to work, eliminate “birthright citizenship” and they’ll stop coming here and those here already will leave. Try again. On the other hand, if you really want these illegals to stay, why don’t you, out of the kindness of your liberal bleeding heart, let them all come to your house and you can open your fat wallet and provide them all with clothing and food.

                  • catsrock

                    Warren Serkin,
                    The 14th Amendment was meant to apply to ALL persons born or naturalized in the United States. Being born in the United States makes one a citizen. That’s what the Amendment says
                    Oh and FYI, the Dred Scott decision (1857) deprived all persons considered “black” of citizenship, not just slaves. The Court held that African Americans, whether enslaved or free, could not be American citizens and therefore had no standing to sue in federal court, and that the federal government had no power to regulate slavery in the federal territories acquired after the creation of the United States. The intent of the 14th Amendment was to ensure that no court within the United States, including the Supreme Court, could ever deprive an entire group of people of citizenship on arbitrary grounds. The intent of the 13th Amendment was to abolish slavery in the entire of the United States, including territories, by reestablishing the power of the federal government to regulate slavery everywhere the federal government had jurisdiction.
                    That the Dred Scott decision deprived all persons of African descent, not just slaves, of citizenship blows your argument out of the water before you even start.

                    • pat

                      Sorry but the 14th Amendment states that ”under the jurisdictions thereof, and the state of residency”. That is the basis for Bill HR140 To stop birthright citizenship. Illegal aliens are not under US Jurisdictions constitutionally, they can’t vote, they can’t join the military and other rights of US citizens. In addition they can’t claim residency when they are illegal aliens. The reason for this paragraph was to include slaves and for that reason only. No since in arguing because we will get it passed and stop the anchor baby business.

                      • catsrock

                        pat,
                        Non-citizens can’t vote, but they can join the military and they cannot be denied due process or equal protection regardless of their status. Amendment XIV Section 1.
                        Bill HR140 is unconstitutional on the face of it. You cannot amend the Constitution by statute. HR140 was first introduced by Steve King of Iowa in 2011 and reintroduced every year since.. It has gone nowhere.

                        • pat

                          They can’t freely join the military, they have to have a green card legally. Bill HR140 IS NOT unconstitutional, it was not meant to include illegal alien invaders and it will get passed, wait and see. Americans have a voice now and over 70% want them gone and they will be gone.

                        • Does it make since to illegally cross into the United States then join our armed forces or does going into the US Embassy and trying to qualify for our armed forces and not illegally crossing our border. The truth is that they are coming no matter what. They know we don’t have enforcement on our borders.

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                        • Sam Harris

                          Nope they do not. An illegal alien can obtain citizenship by going in the the U.S. Armed services FYI.

                        • pat

                          YOUR WRONG!

                        • Sam Harris

                          Lol No I am not

                        • They shouldn’t be allowed to join in the US after coming in illegally! I would be willing to allow them to be interviewed in a US Embassy in their country. The correct way!

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                        • Sam Harris

                          Well they are legally able to so if you have a problem then challenge the federal government which you would lose anyway.

                        • I don’t have to change federal law. It’s already illegal to help illegal aliens in any way!

                        • Sam Harris

                          Hahahaha they help themselves they don’t need handouts most of what they warn is through hard work unlike lazy Americans.

                        • Another troll everyone! Everyone see you for what you represent.

                        • Sam Harris

                          lol whatever

                      • Well we true Americans are putting a stop to it!

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                  • Sam Harris

                    They will never remove birthright citizenship because that could pose a problem for many americans who have been here for generations or for those who legally came here. It won’t ever happen it’s in the American constitution.

                    • Warren Serkin

                      What are you babbling about. Removing the current Jus Soli would only effect those who came here ILLEGALLY and then dropped a kid, not out of any feelings for the kid but just so they could eventually stay here and steal benefits they have neither earned nor deserve.

                      • Sam Harris

                        What benefits? I work in the social welfare system. Illegals are not entitled to benefits. I’ve seen more lazy Americans with their belief they are owed something! Stop living on cloud nine buddy.

                        • Warren Serkin

                          You’ve obviously never heard of identity theft. Illegals are not legally entitled to benefits but they certainly have ways of getting them, entitled or not. Because of Jus Soli, the children have all the benefits of a citizen which, I believe, they shouldn’t be entitled to either.

                        • Sam Harris

                          Americans steal other Americans’ identities. It’s a world wide problem bud. Majority of undocumented are hard working. I work with them every day and I’m Hispanic.

                        • Warren Serkin

                          You’re another one of those clueless fools who don’t know the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL aliens. I suppose you’re going to convince me that the odious piece of scum who killed that woman in San Francisco was nothing but a hard working ILLEGAL ALIEN. BTW, were you aware (probably not) that the majority of LEGAL HISPANICS in the U.S. are anti illegal immigration as the illegals are taking jobs from them.

                        • I’m surprised by the Latin (75% to 80%) support that #DonaldTrump is getting!

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                        • Illegal aliens use other peoples identities every day. Sam you’re the ant-American trash that’s destroyed our country. All you want to do is deflect and make excuses for the illegal aliens. I’m sure your parents wonder where they went wrong?!?

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                        • Sam Harris

                          hahahaha last I checked online stores got targeted for millions of customer’s ids and their financial info. That was done in another country. Are you that stupid to think identity theft is done only by “illegals” not all of them are used by them nitwit. They are people who are desperate to be lazy and not work while wrecking someone else’s life.

                        • Sam Harris

                          Actually my mother did very well since I am very educated person most likely even more so than you 😀

                        • pat

                          WRONG AGAIN, MILLIONS ARE GIVEN TO ILLEGAL ALIENS IN WELFARE IN MY STATE. I ALSO KNOW PEOPLE THAT WORK IN WELFARE OFFICES.

                        • Sam Harris

                          Hahahaha by law they cannot get welfare at all. If the kids yes cause they are citizens therefore are entitled to benefits. Also Texas has a lot if people on welfare and a crappy health system so everyone suffers. But my mother and system are welfare eligibility specialist and no they don’t get cash aid. But I see plenty if lazy Americans who don’t want to work and then throw a fit when they don’t get their way. Americans have a sense of entitlement its disgusting.

                        • Sam you’re just a troll.

                        • Vincent Mcelroy

                          You are a lying liberal! Anchor babies get welfare and Medicaid! And E.IC. getting monthly checks doesn’t mean you are employed in the welfare system!~

                        • Sam Harris

                          The babies are u.s. citizens they have a right to benefits but their parents do not get nothing and I mean “nothing”. Actually my sister and my mother are welfare workers who distribute them all the time. The most people who bilk the system are indians from indian fool. I did determine eligibility for federal programs and yes I can say that U.S. Citizens are whiny demanding people who abuse the system. You should look at stats the most people on welfare are white people FYI. So sorry to burst your bubble it’s not illegals or their children abusing the system.

                    • Wrong again Sammy! You’ve been placed in “TimeOut” for not supporting Americans or America!

                      My opinion on Illegal & Legal Immigration and our lawmakers need for them

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                      • Sam Harris

                        hahahaha on time out? what are you in grade school? If you had your way you would destroy this country in a heart beat with idiotic gun toting mentality.

                      • Sam Harris

                        Wrong Shannon are you just reading the Texas constitution? Or do you need for me to clarify Ju Soli and Ju Sanguinis? Learn your federal laws you twit.

                  • Sam Harris

                    Mexicans are native American or mixed at least. They have more of claim to be here than your sorry butt.

                    • Warren Serkin

                      Wrong, again, dimwit. There never would have been any “Mexicans” in the U.S. Southwest if they hadn’t been defeated and enslaved by the Spanish Conquisadores and then dragged there as slaves to build the missions along with the real Native Americans. Get your facts straight, pendejo.

                      • Sam Harris

                        Wrong moron 20 tribes are legally recognized on both sides of the border. Indigenous Mexicans can cross the border in between and I have indigenous Mexicans come from Mexico and don’t know spanish. You can’t fix stupid. I studied native history of North America and I’m native American.

                        • Warren Serkin

                          The “Native American” Indian tribes owed allegiance to no country and were citizens of no country. They only belonged to whichever tribe they were in and were never Mexican citizens nor U.S. Citizens until fairly recently. You may have studied the history of Indians in this country and in Mexico but, as your posts indicate, you obviously didn’t learn much. The government of Mexico actually had a bounty on Indian scalps. Besides, the conversation was about Mexicans and not Indians. Do try to pay attention and stay on topic.

                        • Sam Harris

                          Actually the yaqui are an example of belonging to both sides and for the fact they are recognized on both sides. 😀

                        • Warren Serkin

                          Of course, being an EX-PERT in Indian history, you also know that they weren’t recognized by the government of the U.S. until 1978.

                        • Sam Harris

                          They also weren’t given u.s. citizenship until 1924 under the snyder act either. That tells you how hypocritical U.S. government was and still is.

                        • Warren Serkin

                          I can’t, and won’t, argue with that. The U.S Government (regardless of party) are a wholly owned subsidiary of those donating campaign funds to it. It’s been a very, very long time since we’ve had a government for, by and of the people. I was stationed at Davis Monthan AFB in Tucson, Az and used to drive up to Phoenix periodically. There’s an Indian reservation about halfway in between (don’t know which tribe) and it always completely disgusted me to see how these poor “Native Americans” were still being forced to live by our wonderful government. I was on a business trip to Iowa and stopped by an Indian Casino just north of where I was staying. On the way to my car, I stuck up a conversation with the parking attendant (a member of the local tribe). As I was leaving, I told him it made me happy to know that the Indians had figured out a way to legally and financially scalp the white man. As I was driving off I looked in the rear view mirror and he was laughing so hard, he almost fell over.

                        • Sam Harris

                          I have to admit Warren I really liked your answer to him and couldn’t completely agree more with your statement.

                        • Warren Serkin

                          I consider myself to be a liberal conservative or a conservative liberal, take your choice. I’m conservative on some issues and liberal on others. The one factor that determines where I am on any particular issue is, what does this issue have to do with U.S. Citizens. Is it beneficial to them or detrimental.

                        • Sam Harris

                          It’s both honestly. The thing in that illegals have brought money to the economy but in the fly of things and coming here illegally and not doing things properly is what isn’t fair. However working with these people they are incredibly hard working. My great grandfather was a brasero which was a government program with mexican workers that helped with the crops, he would work and go back and forth. My grandmother is a legal citizen but at that time her parents were here when my great grandfather decided to stay past his time honestly and he sent for my great grandmother and they stayed here and this was back in the 1930’s so yeah eventually he became illegal, not a proud moment for me honestly. I mean what is Trump going to do trying to send children back? Including my grandmother who’s been here for 83 years and has never lived in Mexico? I think if the government relaxed it’s strictures on immigration people would do it the proper way. I have heard it taking up to 10-20 years just to be able to come here. It’s very easy for certain people from other countries to come here that have a visa waiver program but not so easy for others. So we need new entry requirements honestly. I think that would fix a lot more issues because about only a few thousand visas are granted a year in Mexico. So you see a problem right there. The USA just bs’s on visa requirements but they need to get their act together.

                    • There were no laws idiot! I’ll make it basic for you; there were losers, that’s them and there were winners, that’s us! Now get over it! We paid for this country!

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                      • Sam Harris

                        hahahaa your winners? no you are idiots there is a difference. so stealing land and breaking treaties was something to be proud of huh? You are really sad human being.

                      • Sam Harris

                        No dear your people stole this country they didn’t pay for it, lol.

                • pat

                  You may get a birth certificate in other Countries or some form a paperwork but it will declare that they are not Citizens of that Country. All you need is some form of documentation showing you gave birth…come on.

              • Warren liberals can’t think as fast as us. Feel sorry for him. He doesn’t have a teleprompter!

                • alfie0077

                  There is no such thing as ‘liberal’ nor ‘conservative’ in a voting booth. these are smoke words put out by politicians to keep the fog.
                  The term to be used is CATHOLIC. Traitors all.

                  ‘god before country’ really means ‘Vatican before the USA’. the Catholics have made their choice, and it is NOT the USA. This is treason. The Vatican is a foreign hostile NATION that is a friend to NO nation. The Vatican kills every nation it kisses. The death is forever. just look south, a hundred nations, a thousand years, and not one success.

            • pat

              If a US Citizen has a baby out of the Country , they automatically are US citizens. About the only other developed country that allows birthright citizenship is Canada. No other developed Countries allow birthright citizenship.

              • larrymotuz

                You are repeating back essentially what I told you before about jus sanguanis. Why don’t you read about it?

              • The illegal alien supporters want this to continue. There is now respect for Americans or American law. It will take real leadership to make believers out of these lawbreakers. That’s why #DonaldTrump scares them so. They can’t buy him or offer his kids jobs. The business as usual in Washington is in jeopardy!

                I’m surprised at the Latino support that Mr. Trump is receiving. I rate at 70% to 80% from the social media networks. Unbelievable!

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                • Sam Harris

                  My ancestors have been in North America for over 500 years Shannon McGauley so they were here before “America existed” or before “pilgrims” so I am not illegal especially when new spain gave land to my family. So shut your gop trap no wonder our country is f’ed up we have idiots like you spouting nonsense.

                • Sam Harris

                  The world laughs at americans and think they are full of it and dumb because people like you just prove them right.

              • Sam Harris

                These kids are citizens by Ju Soli which means nationality by being born on american soil. Therefor have a right to american citizenship automatically. Many countries have this type of system in adopting nationality laws.

                • Vincent Mcelroy

                  Actually , you are wrong! The 14th amendment was for giving citizenship to former slaves that were bor5n on American soil!
                  Not invaders from other countries! Liberal judges misinterpreted the meaning of that amendment! If we return to the true interpretation all anchor babies will no longer be citizens!

                  • Sam Harris

                    Wrong the clause was used to to include U.S. Citizens it wasn’t all about american citizens. I suggest you look at the case of the United States v. Wong Kim Ark that states anyone born in the U.S.A are American citizens by Birth. Go fly a kite please since it will make you feel better.

                    • Sherri Kirkland

                      He was here legally, not illegally. They are not under our jurisdiction, because when a Illegal immigrant kills an American we cannot execute him, even if the state they live in, that is the law. People from other countries are sent back to their countries when they kill an American. If they are under our jurisdiction then how’s come we cannot execute them under our laws?

                      • Marshall Sattler

                        We do in Texas ,in fact mexico was pissed off when then Perry signed the execution order.

            • Best_Reviews

              That is not true. Only the US gives birthright citizenship. If a Mexican national gives birth in Costa Rica or anywhere in South/Central America the baby still gets Mexican citizenship just fine.

              • larrymotuz

                Canada gives birthright citizenship. So do many other countries, though this is a minority among all countries. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

              • larrymotuz

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

                Furthermore, without proof that this is their child — a certificate of birth — most countries will not simply take the word of people saying that this is their child.

                Partly, that’s to dissuade trafficking in children.

                Partly, it’s to prevent children from being stolen and then claimed as one’s own for purposes of gaining that child’s citizenship.

                Partly … {Well, I think if you give this any thought, you can come up with some good reasons why other nations might not take the word of people presenting children on thier being the parent or parents of those children.]

        • pat

          Not an illegal alien baby as a citizen, shouldn’t be. By the way, you can’t claim a fetus on your income tax returns. That’s a whole other subject, while i’m pro-choice i find the illegal alien invasion a more important issue because it really is the beginning of the attempt to take over our Country by this Traitor President. Musilim woman as head of Immigration, Ex La Raza Exec as head of Domestic Policy, Deals with Iran, something is wrong with this picture.

          • larrymotuz

            Who ever said one could claim a fetus on tax returns?

            President Obama has sold out to corporatism, not to Muslims.

            When you decide that someone is unsuited for a office in government because of their foreign name, that makes you a bigot, Pat.

            Enuff.

            • When and illegal alien family claims 15 kids and receives $15,000 on a tax refund, something is wrong.

              • larrymotuz

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          • Now the illegal law breaking criminal aliens are victims!

      • fishfry001

        This needs to be national policy, like, yesterday.

        • catsrock

          fishfry,
          Eliminating birth right citizenship will require a Constitutional Amendment. It is not as simple as a policy change. And nothing can be done yesterday

          • Or an illegal executive order!

            • catsrock

              This country has always granted birthright citizenship. And just so you know, the 14th Amendment—which affirmed what had always been the case—was not an executive order, illegal or otherwise.
              Why are conservatives so stupid.

              • Brock Henderson

                What you stated is factually incorrect. Go pound sand.

                • larrymotuz

                  Both the U.S. Constitution and the Civil Rights Act in the 1860s both extend citizenship to anyone born in the United States. The 14th Amendment, which you appear not to know, reads very clearly: “”All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to
                  the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

                  Ignorance of the Constitution breeds ignorance in most other important areas like law and civil rights.

                  • Brock Henderson

                    And by making that statement, you are making clear your deliberate attempt to obscure and evade the true issue of debate – jurisdiction. A border-hopper is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Michigan Sen. Jacob Howard most surely was speaking of the offspring of such invaders of our borders when he pinpointed “foreigners” as an exception demographic to the Citizenship Clause.

                    And anyway, the 14th Amendment was never constitutionally ratified. Or did you not know that?

                    • larrymotuz

                      Jurisdiction has nothing to do with being born alive and then being denied identity or status as a person.

                      And, of course, the 14th Amendment was ratified. Use your mind!

                      • Brock Henderson

                        Nope. “Ratification” by force and at gunpoint is a tactic of brute totalitarianism, symptomatic of a government that has abrogated a former guarantee that it would never abuse the power entrusted to it. After Appomattox, the United States as individual governmental entities were no longer free to either ratify a proposed constitutional amendment or not. For the 14th, which was proposed for the express purpose of exerting authoritarian control over the American people by usurping the issue of citizenship, it was either ratify or die. That’s not constitutional ratification.

                        • larrymotuz

                          It was nonetheless ratified. What you are ignoring is the elephant in the room: namely that the South did not wish to have American citizenship given to blacks. This had nothing to do then with illegal immigrants, and you are way out of bounds in suggesting that it did.

                        • Brock Henderson

                          Honey, it was “ratified” by the Reconstruction governments occupying the Southern states at military gunpoint. Come back when you can show that that’s legitimate ratification as per the design of the U.S. Constitution. And yes, it is being used today by the Open Borders-Mass Immigration Left to facilitate the invasion and demographic takeover of this country by revanchist minorities.

                        • larrymotuz

                          Don’t call me Honey!

                          And you are still ignoring the elephant in the room: the reason the South did not want to ratify … which I repeat had nothing to do with illegal immigration and everything to do with racism and denying equality to slaves and the children of slaves.

                        • catsrock

                          Brock is also ignoring the other elephant in the room. And that’s Article I Section 2 clause 3. Representation in the House of Representatives is determined by population. The slave owning states wanted their slaves counted so as to increase their number of representatives in the House. But at the same time, they wanted to consider their slaves not as human beings but as livestock. The three fifths of a person was a compromise. The 13th Amendment rendered that compromise null and void. Except, former Confederate states made it fairly clear (in their vehement opposition to both the 13th and 14th Amendments) that they had every intention to maintain the status quo antebellum. The answer to that was to reverse Dred Scott, guarantee that all persons born or naturalized in the United States were citizens with all the rights and privileges of citizenship. The 15th Amendment made clear that these included the right to vote. There were also other provisions that did not sit well with Confederates. Like penalizing Confederate states that denied eligible voters the right to vote (Section 2), barring former Confederates from holding office (Section 3) and the declaration that the United States will not be responsible for any debts incurred during the war by the Confederacy nor would the United States honor any demand for reparations (Section 4).
                          Neo-Confederates such as Brock Henderson just can’t accept the fact that the Confederacy lost the war 150 years ago. The Confederacy is dead dead dead and done.
                          End of discussion. And, please oh Lord God Almighty, a final end to all efforts to bring the damn thing back.

                        • larrymotuz

                          Thank you ever so much for filling in the gaps in my knowledge, catsrock.

                        • catsrock

                          Brock, honey, it was ratified by the legitimate governments of the southern states as of 1865-1868. And it hit the threshold for ratification, as of July 9, 1868, even without the former Confederate States. You keep forgetting that the Confederacy lost the Civil War. When you lose a war, there’s a price to be paid. You don’t get to act like you won it.

                        • Brock Henderson

                          And you can pretend all you want that under a federal constitutional union, an occupying force can take over control of a government but said government will still be legitimate. It’s quite obvious that just like the Radical Republicans of yore, you hate Southerners, and killing them and raping their land really sends an orgasmic thrill up your leg.

                        • catsrock

                          Brock Henderson,
                          If you are referring to the Civil War, your side lost. One hundred fifty years ago. Everyone connected to that war is dead. There is no one alive who remembers it, fought in it. lived through it. Everyone is dead. And your side lost.
                          Authoritarian control? The express purpose of the 14th Amendment was to ensure that Americans, regardless, would not be deprived of their citizenship or their rights as citizens by any state. The Civil War rendered moot the three fifths of a person rule with regard to apportioning representation in the House (Article I Section 2 clause 3). The 14th Amendment ensured that the former Confederate states would not take advantage of the subsequent increase in numbers while at the same time denying free blacks and former slaves the right to vote and hold office. It took another hundred years to ensure that the descendants of those free blacks and former slaves were actually granted their rights as citizens. And you want to call that “tyranny”? What kind of idiot are you?

                        • Brock Henderson

                          It’s strange, catsrock, that the definitions of the Enlightenment idols of “liberty,” “freedom,” “equality,” and “democracy” seem to change so fast, and their enforcers become so self-righteous, that large regions and populations eventually find their property, land, and persons decimated for the crime of not submitting to the new moral crusade du jour. Yes, sweetheart, that is tyranny here in America because of its original structure as an independent nation. It was created as a federal union of several semi-sovereign states, not one single unitary state, and the states retained for themselves all rights not explicitly granted to the new federal government. Did you know, by the way, that James Madison led the way at the Constitutional Convention in TABLING a motion to include an amendment to the proposed constitution that would explicitly allow the feds to suppress a state’s effort to secede from the union? That’s right, the government doesn’t have the constitutional right to suppress secession! Sorry!

                          But in any event, the Confederacy isn’t my side. I guess you just reflexively call people “neo-Confederates” when they criticize the Almighty American government’s actions during the “Civil” War. I’m on the side of the civil law, and obedience to it at all levels, in lieu of God’s Law, which is what I truly believe should govern. I’m actually an altar-and-throne medieval Euro-monarchist. The Catholic Church I belong to spoke out against the race-based chattel slavery of the American South. Take that into consideration when you stop hyperventilating, and maybe you’ll see that I’m not exactly “on the Confederacy’s side.”

                        • catsrock

                          Sorry Brock, but you are a Neo-Conservative—–“created as a federal union of several semi-sovereign states, not one single unitary state, and the states retained for themselves all rights not explicitly granted to the new federal government”. That’s the Confederate position. And FYI, states don’t have rights. People have rights. States have powers—Amendment 10—“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States . . .” Amendment 9 is about rights and they are clearly what people, not states, have.
                          As for Madison tabling an amendment that would have banned secession, Madison, in spite of being a Virginian, was a Federalist and firmly rejected secession as an option:
                          “I return my thanks for the copy of your late very powerful Speech in the Senate of the United States. It crushes “nullification” and must hasten the abandonment of “Secession”. But this dodges the blow by confounding the claim to secede at will, with the right of seceding from intolerable oppression. The former answers itself, being a violation, without cause, of a faith solemnly pledged. The latter is another name only for revolution, about which there is no theoretic controversy” Letter to Daniel Webster 1833
                          Article VI clause 2 makes highly problematic the very idea that the Constitution permits secession: “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States . . . shall be the supreme Law of the Land”.
                          Secession was thrown about as an option during the Nullification Crisis of 1832 wherein S Carolina decided it could nullify federal tariffs. The outcome was that it could not. May 1, 1833 President Andrew Jackson: “the tariff was only a pretext, and disunion and southern confederacy the real object. The next pretext will be the negro, or slavery question.”
                          This whole question was decided by the Civil War. And your side lost. You want to dodge the issue by calling yourself “an altar-and-throne medieval Euro-monarchist”, go ahead. That side lost as well, back in 1783. We are not ruled by any king. Nor are we ruled by any church.

                        • catsrock

                          Correction,
                          Actually, if we consider American history as an extension of British history up through to the end of the 18th century, then Catholic theocracy as the governing principle of Great Britain and its colonies was on the losing side when Charles I was deposed and executed and replaced by Oliver Cromwell, the Monarchy replaced by the Commonwealth in 1649. Or maybe we can back it up to the death of Mary I, Queen of England, in 1558. Or King Henry VIII breaking away from the Catholic Church in 1537.
                          Regardless, the United States is neither a Confederacy nor a theocracy under the control of the Pope.

                        • Brock Henderson

                          The position you stated is the position of the Constitution of the U.S. The Federalist Papers fully affirm it. Again, without any substance to back up your baseless assertion, you maintain that the Confederacy is “my side.” Here, let me clear the air for you, since it stinks of your knee-jerk hyperventilated carbon dioxide, poisoned with secularist totalitarianism: The Confederacy had no right to secede. There. Happy? You’ll never be able to point to a clause in the Constitution prohibiting it, but it can also be said indubitably that the Constitution was not designed to allow secession. The crux of my scathing critique of the Union government – yours and mine in the present day – is that it was not constitutionally allowed to militarily suppress that secession. Lincoln’s predecessor James Buchanan, a much better president than Lincoln, stated as much right before he left office. And the side of medieval monarchism lost in 1783, you say? Do you have no education in Western history? Let’s see, what was the British government in the late 18th century – oh yeah, a Protestant monarchy with a democratic Parliament! That’s got medieval altar and throne written all over it!

                          Moron.

                          What’s most important, though, is your frightening philosophy you have revealed. Is the side that wins always the side that’s right? That’s the mind of a criminal talking, friend-o.

                        • catsrock

                          The auto-spell correction feature here is driving me nuts. Brock Henderson, you are a Neo-Confederate. “Neo-Conservative” is something else again

                    • The illegal law breaking criminal aliens and their supporters will fail. Americans will prevail!

                      • Brock Henderson

                        ‘Fraid I don’t share your optimism, Shannon. But you seem to be a man of good intentions. I hope YOU prevail.

                  • subject to the jurisdiction thereof That is what we will argue before the Supreme Court. Kinda scares you don’t it!

                    • larrymotuz

                      Given the history in British law of the words “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”, those who are resting their case on those words have a very hollow case indeed. The history was to protect the citizenship rights of children born abroad to the citizen (then always the father) whose children were born abroad. It had nothing to do with illegal immigration. It was also common law that citizenship existed as a ‘birthright’ if you were born in Great Britain irrespective of the descent or citizenship of the parents. Indeed, this birthright did not exist if and only if one was officially a foreign person working at a foreign embassy.

                    • catsrock

                      Shannon,
                      No. It doesn’t. What would surprise me is you guys finding a lawyer actually dumb enough to take your case.

                      • Already done mijo!

                      • pat

                        The Bill is already in Congress, you keep forgetting the line…”and in the state they reside in”, and they can’t claim residency so tell them all now to stop using their vaginas and kids as tools for citizenship.

                        • catsrock

                          Pat,
                          The amendment reads “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof [of the United States], are citizens of the United States, AND [emphasis added] of the State wherein they reside”.
                          In other words, being a citizen of the United States, either by being born in the United States or naturalized, makes one also a citizen of the state in which one lives, and “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States”.
                          Doesn’t matter if the bill is already in Congress. It is unconstitutional on the face of it. Further, that the child is a citizen does not confer citizenship on the parents. And, to claim residency, the only thing one has to do is to provide evidence that one lives where one lives.
                          No, puissant county clerks do not get to decide who is a citizen and who is not. And puissant county clerks cannot refuse to issue a birth certificate for a person born in that county.
                          Word of advice, Pat. Learn to read. In this country, it’s a useful skill

                        • pat

                          WORD OF ADVICE CATSROCK – Never underestimate the power of the American people. They can’t claim residency period, their residency is in the Country they came from not in any state. This was meant for slaves and we will stop birthright citizenship, trust me. The constitution of the United States does not grant citizenship at
                          birth to just anyone who happens to be born within American borders. It
                          is the allegiance (complete jurisdiction) of the child’s birth parents
                          at the time of birth that determines the child’s citizenship–not
                          geographical location. If the United States does not have complete
                          jurisdiction, for example, to compel a child’s parents to Jury Duty –
                          then the U.S. does not have the total, complete jurisdiction demanded by
                          the Fourteenth Amendment to make their child a citizen of the United
                          States by birth. ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO COMPLETE JURISDICTIONS OF THE USA. GET IT!!!!

                        • catsrock

                          Last time I checked, Pat, I was an American person and my native language is English.
                          1) “Resident” definition “living in a particular place” Merriam Webster.
                          People are “residents” where they live, not where they came from. Because they are no longer there. Because they are here. “Wherein they reside”. If someone is born in the United States, then here is where they came from, not somewhere else.
                          2) “allegiance” definition ” the obligation of a feudal vassal to his liege lord; the fidelity owed by a subject or citizen to a sovereign or government ; the obligation of an alien to the government under which the alien resides” Merriam Webster. You do not get to decide “allegiance”. It comes with where you live. Laws applicable where you live apply to you. You do not decide. The government does.
                          3) “jurisdiction” definition “the power or right to make judgments about the law, to arrest and punish criminals, etc.; the power or right to govern an area; an area within which a particular system of laws is used” Merriam Webster. Persons living, residing, physically present within a specific area are subject to the jurisdiction of the governing agency. The one exception are diplomatic personnel who will be sent home if they abuse that privilege.
                          Pat, people like you, so ill-informed and so stupid, make it exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, to underestimate what I assume you would define as the “American People”.
                          Oh and just so you know, jury duty is limited to those eligible to vote. That’s why voter registration lists are used to select jurors. If you are not eligible to vote, then you are not eligible for jury duty, but to argue that not being eligible to vote or not being registered to vote means that you are no longer under the jurisdiction of the governments of the United States, the various states, counties, cities et al and therefore not obligated to obey any laws is idiotic beyond comprehension.
                          What that would mean is that people here in the United States illegally are not subject to any laws, cannot therefore break any laws, cannot be arrested for any crime and cannot be deported. Because US (including state, county, city) laws do not apply to them

                        • You tell him Pat!!

                        • pat

                          Idiot – They can’t claim residency legally. Word of advise, learn about the Constitution because i took this from a Constitutional expert. They are not under US Jurisdictions Constitutionally., they can’t join the military, they can’t vote. You will see sooner than you think, they will go home and legally this is not their home. We will win, no doubt about it!

                  • pat

                    You’re ignorance, it’s being challenged because Constitutionally meant illegal aliens are not under US Jurisdictions and you forgot the continuation of that line ”and the state they reside in”, they can’t claim residency. We will win, BILL HR140 will be passed.

                    • larrymotuz

                      You have no grasp of the law nor what is involved in altering it. Anyone resident in a country is under the jurisdiction of that country, illegal or not.

                      • pat

                        WRONG!

                        • Wrong mijo….. If they were subject they wouldn’t have access to their consulate member. I suspect that you have illegals close to you or employ them.

                        • larrymotuz

                          You are armed with the self-confidence of ignorance, pat.

                        • pat

                          Truth hurts doesn’t it. Americans have the right to want illegal alien invaders of our Country gone. Jurisdictions constitutionally would mean they could join the Military, Vote, have no allegiance to another country, could claim residency. They will be gone, just a matter of time.

                        • larrymotuz

                          They are hardly ‘invaders’. They are economic refugees, fleeing abysmal, often brutal conditions in their homelands, risking everything to escape, including their lives.

                          But refusing to give newborns identity papers such as birth certificates is not an answer to that problem. All that does is leave their children stateless, for, without any official proof that these are their children, their home countries will not acknowledge them.

                          And, I repeat, anyone present in the United States — except for foreign diplomats (and foreign workers attached to foreign embassies) — is subject to the jurisdiction of U.S. law and U.S. courts.

                        • They are invaders. Stop deflecting! They are illegal law breaking criminal aliens today and they will be tomorrow!

                          We must also rid ourselves of anti-American people that don’t support America or our laws! Don’t worry we caught #JebBush telling everyone in Spanish that he would grant all amnesty if elected.

                          You’re going to find out how many Latins support #DonaldTrump because they are tired of the lawless ness as well

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                        • larrymotuz

                          They are socio-economic refugees in any reasonable optic about why they enter into the United States. Calling them ‘illegal’ hardly changes that reality.

                        • Mijo, calling them undocumented immigrants, undocumented Americans or refugees is bullshit!. A bank robber is a bank robber, not an unauthorized withdrawer. What do you take us Americans for? An illegal alien is an illegal alien period! They don’t belong in our country. I can understand you being upset with their days of lawlessness rapidly ending.

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                        • pat

                          Yeah well, the US is now in economic distress and we are one of the most generous Countries in the world but not a dumping ground for 3rd world countries. There are plenty of Countries that have economic hardship, just because they border us doesn’t give them the right over millions of others to break our laws especially those who apply legally. Bottom line, they have no right and we will see to it that they leave! Second, again If they were under US Jurisdictions as Constitutionally meant, they would be able to vote, go into the military. Again, they are illegal alien invaders and they are subjects of the Countries they came from, not ours or their anchor babies. We will win this battle for sure! Americans should not have to lower their standards of living to accommodate illegal alien invaders.

                        • larrymotuz

                          I am not opposed to your ‘winning’ this battle, Pat. But I am opposed to ‘how’ many on the right want to ‘win’ it.

                          And, no matter how you cut it, this issue is far more complex than many think it is … and that includes the negative effects that simple expulsion would have on the American economy.

                          There is no reserve army of the unemployed wanting to take the work they do for the wage rates they take and the working conditions they endure.

                      • Wrong! The Supreme Court will finally rule on this! The illegal aliens will fall!

              • My gosh….. Please try to keep up!

                • catsrock

                  Sorry Shannon, but keeping up with bigoted ignoramuses is not my idea of a good time.

                  • Just be thankful that this true American is even giving a xenophobic anti-American racist hater like yourself the time of day! The illegal law breaking criminal aliens are taking advantage of a vulnerability in our law. It’s traitors like yourself that hope for full government control and the fall of these United States. That’s exactly why someone like #DonaldTrump scares you. True Americans will put their full support behind him to hopefully stop the business as usual in Washington. It’s Americas turn. It’s Americans turn. Time for the lawlessness to stop. PAT for VP!

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              • Old Soldier

                The 14th amendment was NOT written to be abused.

                • catsrock

                  And?

              • CB1138

                No that’s not what Shannon meant. You are the stupid one. He meant that Obama issues illegal executive orders, or issues a “policy” that is not even an executive order and uses that to override duly enacted laws. So the next President, perhaps a Republican president, can just extend that behavior, and then the next President, of whatever party, takes it a bit further, and before you know it we are in a dictatorship. Think about it.

                • catsrock

                  CB1138,
                  Shannon’s opinion of President Obama is irrelevant to the discussion here. And what the two of you know about executive orders is next to nothing. And neither of you is qualified to rule on the legality or illegality of any executive orders issued by any of our presidents
                  Executive orders can be overridden, unfunded. or otherwise crippled by Congress or ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. It has been done. Further, every single president since Washington has issued executive orders. Two hundred thirty two years later and we are still not a dictatorship.
                  Again my question. Why are conservatives so stupid?

                  • CB1138

                    I guarantee you that I know more than you do about Executive Orders. And I guarantee you need to learn how to think. It can be taught and learned.

                    • I was amazed today to how many #Latins in Laredo were supporters of Donald Trump. 75% to 80%. Very surprising!

                  • The same as we don’t issue certificates to illegal aliens that don’t have proper id! God bless Texas!!

                    IF Obuma can refuse to enforce the laws that he took an oath to support Texas can do what they are doing. Only difference is Texas is doing it for Americans and America!

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                    • alfie0077

                      Hooray for you… Stick up for Texas, Perry the Catholic traitor certainly will not.

                      Vote for ANY Catholic and you like the following:

                      YOU like to pay for the free Bommacare for every one of the 60 million illegal alien Catholic invaders
                      YOU like Open borders for the illegal alien Catholic invaders so we can have more
                      more more!
                      YOU want Unlimited crime from the illegal alien Catholic invaders. (We need more crime!)
                      YOU want Unlimited pollution and population from the illegal alien Catholic invaders.
                      (The USA can be just as polluted as everything south of the USA!)
                      YOU like the ‘anchor’ ‘citizens’ who will never speak English, and not graduate from high
                      school.

                      YOU will pay for the incarceration in prison. To boot, a momma that will not be deported.
                      YOU will pay for the ‘momma’ debit card from the USDA forever!
                      YOU want the momma to stay in the USA forever and never get deported.
                      Since
                      all the folks you have to vote against are whyte, elected Catholic
                      traitors the race card is invalid., and for the same reason the ‘bigot’
                      card is worthless.

                • Thanks CB1138

              • pat

                You’re not to bright if you read it as i explained earlier. They are not under US Jurisdiction as meant Constitutionally and can’t claim residency. You’ll see when Bill HR140 is passed. Don’t need an amendment, it’s interpretation.

        • alfie0077

          like a hundred plus years ago.

        • alfie0077

          This should have been recognized by the citizens a hundred years ago.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you like the following:

          YOU like to pay for the free Bommacare for every one of the 60 million illegal alien Catholic invaders
          YOU like Open borders for the illegal alien Catholic invaders so we can have more
          more more!
          YOU want Unlimited crime from the illegal alien Catholic invaders. (We need more crime!)
          YOU want Unlimited pollution and population from the illegal alien Catholic invaders.
          (The USA can be just as polluted as everything south of the USA!)
          YOU like the ‘anchor’ ‘citizens’ who will never speak English, and not graduate from high
          school.

          YOU will pay for the incarceration in prison. To boot, a momma that will not be deported.
          YOU will pay for the ‘momma’ debit card from the USDA forever!
          YOU want the momma to stay in the USA forever and never get deported.
          Since
          all the folks you have to vote against are whyte, elected Catholic
          traitors the race card is invalid., and for the same reason the ‘bigot’
          card is worthless.

      • Andy

        they know they are braking a Federal Law if we brake a Federal Law we go to jail BUT they get rewarded.
        That does not make any sence at all They sneak in here and get all kind of benafits and we pay that with our taxes
        I still stand by my other posting
        Now you tell me why I dislike Mexicans and all Hispanics???????

        • Wroots

          You mean “break, breaking”. Brake, braking is something you do to stop moving.

          • Jay Kauffman

            Like his brain

        • Andy

          Wroots sorry but how perfect are you

        • Bill Rood

          Most come here for jobs, and if they work they pay FICA taxes. However, they can’t collect Social Security with invalid SS numbers, so they pay but will never benefit. So much for the drain on your taxes.

          The newborn children affected by this have committed no crime — so do you now believe in bills of attainder as well? The child’s citizenship will not prevent the parent from being deported, and many such parents have indeed been deported. At that point, they must choose whether to abandon the child or take it with them. The child may return when it is an adult, because it is still a citizen.

          • Very few work on the books and don’t pay FICA. Bill turn of MSNBC. Studies indicate if our laws are enforced the US will save billions. #DeportThemNow

            • Bill Rood

              Very few work on the books and don’t pay FICA.

              This sentence is unintelligible. Those who work on the books clearly do pay FICA. Did you mean, “Very few work on the books so most don’t pay FICA?” What do you base that statement on? Here’s a non-MSNBC source (AP and USA Today) that supports my statements: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2008-04-10-immigrantstaxes_N.htm

              I don’t really watch MSNBC except to curse Al Sharpton while waiting for Nightly Business Report and DemocracyNow! to come on the PBS station. Where are you getting your information? Rush? Breitbart? You’re swallowing lies designed to make you angry. Look at the link above for the truth.

              I’ve seen many reports of raids on local meat packers where they round up many undocumented workers. For sure, the meat packers are collecting the withholding taxes and sending them to SSA and IRS.

              • RichardBond

                You have apparently never examined the APs position on immigration they are not an unbiased source and the person they use on immigration stories is actually an advocate for amnesty and the absence of border controls.

                • Bill Rood

                  they are not an unbiased source

                  Did I say AP is unbiased? I did not. There is no such thing as an unbiased source. I was simply answering Shannon’s stupid crack about MSNBC, which I agree is shamelessly biased, and which I never cited.

                  On the other hand, you have done nothing to refute the substance of the article I linked. You might have complained that their interview with a self-employed undocumented worker who makes a point of paying his taxes is anecdotal and for every one of him there are probably a dozen who report nothing. Instead, you cite some irrelevant position the AP has taken on something totally unrelated to taxes paid or benefits collected.

                  • Go ahead and say Bill Rood…………… “If it’s on the internet or MSNBC it has to be true”!

                    • Bill Rood

                      USA Today is print media, so the referenced story was not just “on the internet,” and it certainly wasn’t MSNBC. Oh, I understand. You think only Rush, Breitbart and Fox are reliable sources. But keep up the blather about MSNBC, which I never cited as a reference or source.

                • He probably works a crew of wetbacks!

              • Whatever American hater. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Go stand in the corner and continue to watch you liberal anti-American MSNBC!

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          • RichardBond

            The paycheck only has a minor portion removed for FICA. The entire paycheck with the job should have gone to an American citizen or legal. The FICA amount as well as other taxes on a low income check is miniscule compared with the public services paid by other tax payers an illegal alien receives while working in the U.S.

            • Bill Rood

              The FICA rate is 7.65% payable by the employee and 7.65% payable by the employer. Where on earth did you get the misinformation that the rate is 3.6%?

              • RichardBond

                You are missing the point if they are not here legally they should not be working and should not be able to get work or be paid at all. The job that they are in should have gone to a citizen or legal immigrant. To wheedle over not getting their FICA back overlooks that they still got the job and thus the larger part of their check.

                • Bill Rood

                  You originally stated it was 3.6%, but it’s 7.65% and the employer pays an equal amount. Most economists, especially the free market fundy types conservatives love so much, claim that the FICA tax employers pay would be added to the workers’ wages if the employer didn’t have to pay it. Income tax is also withheld, and most undocumented workers are afraid to file a return to get a refund.

                  I’m not whining, nor am I even saying the undocumented aliens should not be deported. I am simply refuting your distortions and outright inaccuracies.

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              • It’s illegal for illegal aliens to use a fake social security number. So the liberals allow the law breakers to get TAX ID numbers to get around our laws. They file income tax returns using this method now. Some of them get $12,000 to $15,000 back on their return. No IRS audits on illegal aliens with TAX ID numbers. Why?

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          • pat

            So they steal the SS numbers or make them up. The ones that file claim 6 kids in Mexico, that’s proven. Not to mention our Federal Laws prohibit the hiring or harboring of an illegal alien but again, this lawless government does what it want. They should be in jail for invalid SS numbers,any citizen would be.

            • Bill Rood

              The ones that file claim 6 kids in Mexico, that’s proven.

              The ones that file for what? Ie, what benefit is it you’re claiming undocumented aliens file for? Or, are you talking about income tax returns? Where is the proof you claim of whatever it is you’re claiming? You need a SS number for each dependent, so wouldn’t that be fraudulent?

              Federal Laws prohibit the hiring or harboring

              So why aren’t the employers being prosecuted?

              If some specific person is breaking a law by fraudulently claiming benefits or an income tax refund by using false or stolen SS numbers, that person needs to be prosecuted. Denying a birth certificate to an infant does nothing to deter the parent from breaking any laws.

              Also note that denying a birth certificate and denying citizenship are two different things. If our Federal courts rule, or Congress passes a law upheld by the courts, that a child born in the US of undocumented alien parents is not a citizen, that does not mean the child should be denied proof of when and where it was born. The child may need that proof when it is returned to its parents’ country, and the 14th Amendment guarantees equal protection of the law for all “persons,” whether citizens or not.

              I personally think we should not tamper with birth-right citizenship, but I’m OK with denying citizenship to children of undocumented aliens if after full debate our Congress decides to make that clarification and the Federal courts uphold it. Denying birth certificates is the wrong way to go about it, needs to stop, and I’m confident the Federal courts will stop it.

              • pat

                They file using ITIN numbers the government gives them. The IRS stated they are claiming children in Mexico and millions have been refunded to them. It’s all against the law but our lawless government doesn’t care. We don’t prosecute the Employers because we have a lawless government. Give them birth certificates and stamp them ILLEGAL ALIEN NON-CITIZEN. These states are doing what they have to do to get the message through. Time for them to leave!!!

                • Bill Rood

                  Thanks for clarifying what you were talking about. Income tax is a sticky wicket because people are required to file a return but also have a right not to self-incriminate. As a result, the IRS can’t report people filing with ITINs to INS. I agree the government should enforce the law, which would seem to require the children in Mexico have SSNs in order to be claimed as dependents. The government shouldn’t be giving ITINs to a child who is not required to file a tax return, and if they’re using stolen numbers, that’s fraud and identity theft. The main takeaway here is that I agree laws need to be enforced.

                  If the majority of American people through their Congress choose to enact a law denying birthright citizenship to infants born of undocumented aliens, I’m not going to get my knickers in a knot over it as long as some care is taken in drafting such a law. Eg, there must be a defined start date in the future. Otherwise, the law is ex post facto. We don’t want the citizenship of people whose ancestors have lived in the US for generations to be challenged so that they have to dig up documents from the distant past to prove an unbroken chain of citizens and legal residents.

      • SILVERSTRICK

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        • Howard Hudson

          Sadly, businesses do not have to provide you with a paid platform for your speech. The “freedom of speech” you refer to is based on government limiting your speech, which has not happened.
          Facebook exists to make money, not as a public service. They can limit your speech for any reason they want to.

      • GR Arnold

        Interesting the article mentions “the darkest hours” … Seems this never abated.

      • RichardBond

        Whoever wrote this is badly informed and has not done adequate research. The 14th Amendment does not confer citizenship on those people who have entered the country illegally. That came 30 years later in a court case in which one of the judges deliberately misinterpreted it.

        • GR Arnold

          I agree. Scroll down and check my comment on this very issue. Good post on your part!

        • Wroots

          The Citizenship Clause is the first sentence of Section 1 in the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which states that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” This clause represented Congress’s reversal of a portion of theDred Scott v. Sandford decision which had declared that African Americans were not and could not become citizens of the United States or enjoy any of the privileges and immunities of citizenship.

          • RichardBond

            You are making my point “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside.”

            That says “subject to the jurisdiction” that means willing to obey it’s laws. It does not say “within the jurisdiction”. Illegal aliens are in defiance of American laws and are outlaws. It took thirty years for a corrupt Supreme Court Justice to reinterpret the Citizenship clause to mean within rather than subject to.

            • Howard Hudson

              If we jail immigrants for any reason they are “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. The ONLY people who are not are children of diplomats if those children are born within the United States, because diplomats are not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. It’s all in the Congressional Record for those acts.
              Seriously, you are describing a fantasy if you think the US would ever give up jurisdiction over anyone other than diplomats. How would we levy parking fines, punish criminal acts, collect taxes, and any number of other legal actions that require some form of jurisdiction?

              • RichardBond

                The United States has always had the right to prosecute violators of it’s laws within its territory. They do not need to have conferred citizenship in order to do so. They also have the right to forcibly remove even diplomats. A citizen of another country has recourse to their consul to request reconsideration from the United States. A citizen subject to the jurisdiction of the United States as of passage of the 14th Amendment would have the decisions of United States. A person born in the United States whose parents were legally in the United States had the right to citizenship. A person whose parents were not here legally would still have recourse to the consul of their parents country. The interpretation changed in 1898 due to Horace Gray’s desire to cover for Chester Arthur. Few people are stateless the child of illegal aliens usually has their parents citizenship available.

                • Howard Hudson

                  “has always had the right to prosecute violators of it’s laws” annnnnnnnd that’s called “jurisdiction.” Done and done.

                  • RichardBond

                    This is just smug stupidity on your part but it is wrong. Any country can enforce it’s laws within it’s territory the question is allegiance. An illegal alien does not held allegiance to a country where they are not legally present. Their children obtain their citizenship as parents. It was not until Gray’s opinion on the 14th Amendment that birthright citizenship was stretched to include the children of illegal aliens. Read Feere his background on it is better than yours.

                    • Howard Hudson

                      Feere commits legal error in two ways: He says, “These advocates also argue that ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ simply means being susceptible to police authority (i.e. being required to follow laws and pay fines for violations). But such an interpretation creates a redundancy in the 14th Amendment, as all people born in the United States are subject to the laws of the land. ”
                      Children of diplomats are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, they are subject to the jurisdiction of their home country, and enjoy “diplomatic immunity” within the United States, EVEN if they break US law. This is also true for US consular and embassy staff in other countries and is based on customary international law and the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, to which the US is a signatory. The only likely consequence for such persons is expulsion from the host country. There is no redundancy and Feere is flatly wrong on that point regarding who is or is not “subject to the jurisdiction.” He commits a logical error when he equates people born in the United States with subject to the jurisdiction, because, as I explained, children of diplomats (and prior to the Nationalities Act, “Indians not taxed”) were NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the United States even if born within the US.
                      By the way, CIS is not a “policy-neutral” think tank, nor is FAIR, or NumbersUSA. They are utterly anti-immigration, even legal immigration, all founded by John Tanton. Now they are attacking your fellow US Citizens, with this line of reasoning. For a more balanced viewpoint, check out the Migration Policy Institute, or MPI.
                      I do not mind explaining these things to you, but your arguments could use some additional primary research. Don’t rely on what someone tells you something says, read it yourself and form an opinion based on that.

                      • RichardBond

                        Your suggestion that you are a better immigration expert than Jon Feere or expert and that the Migration Policy Institute is unbiased are both extremely funny.

                        • Howard Hudson

                          Glad I could make you laugh. We’re here all this week, tell a friend! Don’t forget to tip your waitstaff!

                          And, I have no idea of Feere’s experience, but I bet I am at least as good as he is. I did not forget about children of diplomats. I know what jurisdiction means. Courts agree with me, and 6 out of 8 Supreme Court justices agree with me. But, opinions vary.

                          You read too much and too little into my comment, I said “for a more balanced viewpoint.” Anything less racist than CIS is “more balanced.”

                          You are free to make up your own mind, and it sounds like facts and logic won’t butt in on your conclusion, but it should be YOUR opinion, not mine, and not Feere’s. Just think about it.

                    • Howard Hudson

                      Not so much sophistry as the actual definition of jurisdiction. Here is what Black’s Law Dictionary, 4th ed. had to say: ”
                      “Jurisdiction: … It exists when court has cognizance of class of cases involved, proper parties are present, and point to be decided is within issues. Noxon Chemical v. Leckie, CCANJ. 39 F.2d. 318 at 319.” etc. There is nothing about allegiance. As a legal defense, saying “I do not owe allegiance to the United States” is generally a lousy defense strategy. However, for diplomats and their families, it is absolutely solid.

                      • CB1138

                        A nation has jurisdiction over anybody who harms its citizens anywhere in the world. So “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” must mean more than what you assert.

                        • Howard Hudson

                          Can you cite ANY authority for that statement? Other than piracy, what you describe has never been the case. For example, if you are mugged in London, England, a UK court would prosecute that perpetrator, not the U.S.

                        • CB1138

                          It is something you would learn in the first day of an international law course but you can figure it out. If an American is murdered in London, the U.S. govt can request that the killer be extradited to the U.S. to face trial. In the situation of a mugging, the U.S. wouldn’t bother.

                        • Howard Hudson

                          OK, so if the US has to ASK FOR extradition, in order to try someone, then, the US does not have jurisdiction. The US would have to ask that the UK grant extradition, and it can be denied. Jurisdiction is covered in civil procedure for first year claw students in the US (or criminal procedure, if that is offered to 1Ls), and would have to exist for a court to hear that matter.
                          If that killer were standing in a US court, and charged with committing a crime somewhere else, say London, there would be no charges that could stick. The state must prove the location occurred within the bounds of that governmental body. Otherwise, a motion to dismiss would be granted. Refresh your understanding of jurisdiction and venue and let me know if you still believe what you stated earlier.
                          Exceptions are piracy, and special cases like the Nuremberg trials, which were so extraordinary, they created a new form of international law, and a movie.
                          But regardless of this legal sideshow, these children are US Citizens under current law. That’s the real problem with Texas’s actions. It’s illegal and mean-spirited.

                        • CB1138

                          It’s good that you are reading up on things, Howard. If Sid robs me with a gun in NYC and flees to London, the United States has jurisdiction but still has to request that the U.K. apprehend and then extradite Sid. So a country can have jurisdiction, but the perpetrator is “out of the jurisdiction.” But if the U.S. can lure Sid offshore beyond the territorial waters of the U.K., them the U.S. seize Sid on the high seas without asking permission of any government. As for the XIVth, my position is that a footnote in a Supreme Court decision does not constitute law and the whole situation of considering children of illegals to be citizens is based on erroneous thinking.

                        • Howard Hudson

                          Well, if your going to change the fact pattern, I guess you can support any conclusion. You created a crime in the U.S. so, yes, jurisdiction attaches even if the alleged perpetrator flees. That’s not what we were talking about.
                          Also, if you read the opinion, it’s not a footnote. It is the question presented to the court and is the basis of the opinion. Look at the bottom of page 667 in the U.S. reporter. “There is … little ground for the theory … inconsistent with the ancient rule of citizenship by birth within the dominion.”
                          And, 6 of the 8 justices agreed.
                          What have you got that beats Wong Kim Ark? Read the opinion before you reply. 169 US 649.

                        • CB1138

                          Okay run the same fact pattern with Sid in London kills a U.S. citizen and flees to Turkey. U.S. still has jurisdiction but must request extradition from Turkey. Unless U.S. lure Sid to a boat outside the territorial waters of Turkey. It has been done. Wong Kim Ark concerned the child of people who were legally present in the United States so your quote must be understood in that context. And forgot the next sentence: “Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to citizenship.” So, I am done educating you. No more replies to your posts.

                • catsrock

                  RichardBond,
                  It did not change. Birthright citizenship was reaffirmed by the Wong Kim Ark decision of 1898. Birthright citizenship has its origins in British Common Law dating back to at least 1608. For the British to have put restrictions on emigration to the colonies or to have rendered immigrants stateless people would, in the 17th and 18th centuries, have been insane. Labor shortages were a major problem in the colonies and the primary force supporting slavery and the Transatlantic slave trade. Restrictions on immigration in 19th century America would have rendered industrialization, economic development, and sea to shining sea expansion virtually impossible.
                  In the 21st century an aging and increasingly urbanized population creates significant labor shortages in specific sectors of our economy, most notably in agriculture and constructtion. State imposed restrictions in Alabama and Georgia in 2011 resulted in over a billion dollar loss in agriculture in those states.

                  • RichardBond

                    You are wrong on both the law and the employment statistics. Unemployment and underemployment is high in the American construction fields. The presence of cheap labor has delayed the use of farm mechanization.

                    • Bill Rood

                      Catsrock is correct about British Common Law. In fact, the Wikipedia article on Wong Kim Ark mentions an 1844 New York state case, Lynch v. Clarke, in which it was held that a woman born in New York City, of alien parents temporarily sojourning there, was a U.S. citizen. While I don’t believe it was a SC case, it illustrates that before 1857, the British Common Law pinciple of jus soli (birthright citizenship) was the generally accepeted norm.

                      • RichardBond

                        The British have had the good sense to change their law. It is high time we did as well and we do not need to change the 14th Amendment to do it.

                        • Bill Rood

                          The British have the good sense to be surrounded by water, but I do question the long term wisdom or justice of what they’ve done. Have you considered the justice of what is occurring in the Dominican Republic? Most of those people were born in the DR. Many don’t even speak French.

                          Yes, a SCOTUS decision could probably rule children of undocumented aliens as non-citizens, but have you even thought about the can of worms that would be opened? Imagine decades from now people who speak no language other than English having their citizenship falsely challenged and deported because of missing documentation that has never before been required of people with US birth certificates.

                          I say enforce existing laws, including prosecution of people who employ undocumented workers (including as independent contractors). That’s the only way to stop it.

                    • catsrock

                      RichardBond,
                      I am well aware of the underemployment and unemployment in construction. I am also well aware that construction goes in cycles. And I am very well aware that construction work is hard on the body and past a certain age, it is no longer a viable occupation. That’s why the need for an influx of younger people aka immigrants. Just so you know, my dad worked construction. He had to quit when he turned fifty five.
                      As far as agriculture goes, obviously you don’t live in a rural area or you would know about all that massive equipment that farmers use and that clogs up county roads in the spring and fall. It’s just that there are some things that can’t be done using all that massive equipment. Hence the need for migrant workers. I once signed up to detassel corn. It’s the kind of thing that can’t be done by machine and ends up being done by hand by high school kids and migrant labor. I lasted three days

                • Bill Rood

                  Your phrase “interpretation changed” implies there was a nationally recognized interpretation of the 14th Amendment prior to 1898 that denied citizenship to the children of aliens who were born in the US. That is not the case. There were likely multiple opinions amongst Americans as to whether such children were or weren’t citizens. In fact there was a Federal circuit court decision in 1884 ruling that Look Tin Sing, who was born in Mendocino, was a citizen even though his parents were not. The decision was not appealed and stood. There may have been other contrary rulings in other cases, but I don’t believe any reached the SC. If you know of a SCOTUS decision prior to 1898 with a contradictory interpretation, please cite. If you don’t, then your statement that the 1898 decision changed “the interpretation” is false, as SCOTUS had never before weighed in on the matter.

                  The wording of the 14th is clear and unambiguous. The 1898 SC decision simply clarified and settled on one interpretation of what it meant to be “subject to the jurisdiction,” and essentially decided it applied to all infants not born on Indian reservations and not the children of diplomats.

                  • RichardBond

                    You are not a better jurist than Jon Feere . The decision did not address children of illegal aliens. The current executive branch is based on the opinion of Justice Gray. It is not necessary to change the 14th Amendment to end birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens.

                    • Bill Rood

                      I was criticizing your use of the phrase “interpretation changed,” not the jurisprudence of Jon Feere, whoever he is. Does he sit on SCOTUS? Nor did I say anything about undocumented aliens or whether the 1898 decision applies to them. So, which pre-1898 SCOTUS decision are you going to cite that Wong Kim Ark reversed?

                      You are correct that it would not be necessary to change the 14th Amendment to end birthright citizenship for the children of undocumented aliens. All it would take is a supremely misguided SCOTUS decision that would create far more problems than it would solve, because there would be challenges to citizenship that would be very difficult and expensive to resolve. Eg, the citizenship of many Latinos born before any such SCOTUS decision could be questions along with their children and grandchildren. I can imagine some searches going back to 1848.

                  • RichardBond

                    Look Tin Sings parents were here legally

                    • Bill Rood

                      As were Wong Kim Ark’s. That has nothing to do with your claim that the 1898 decision changed the interpretation of the 14th Amendment. It did nothing of the sort. It standardized the interpretation to include all people born here, even those of transients, though it said nothing one way or the other about the children of people who entered illegally.

              • Bill Rood

                In addition to diplomats, I believe Native Americans who live on reservations not subject to US law were examples of people “subject to its jurisdiction” at the time the amendment was written. Not sure whether that’s the case today.

                • catsrock

                  Bill Rood,
                  Indians not taxed, that is, Indians who were members of a tribe and who lived on a reservation were not granted birthright citizenship because the reservations were considered separate nations and therefore the people who lived there were not under the jurisdiction of the United States That was changed by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. Native Americans are considered citizens by the same rules that apply to everyone else. The Act granted them dual citizenship if they were members of a tribe. The primary purpose of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment was to render null and void the Dred Scott decision of 1857. The simplest, easiest, least complicated way to do that was to grant birthright citizenship to all persons born in the United States (and that included territories). The two exceptions as of 1868 were diplomatic personnel and their families and Native Americans living on reservations (Indians not taxed). As of 1924 (Indian Citizenship Act) that changed so that now only diplomatic personnel are considered “not under the jurisdiction of”.
                  Previous to the Dred Scott decision, birthright citizenship was granted to everyone although full rights of citizenship were not necessarily extended to everyone. That practice was British Common Law dating back to 1608

                  • Bill Rood

                    Thanks for clearing up my uncertainty with such an enlightening post.

                • Howard Hudson

                  That was the case for “Indians not taxed” at the time of the 14th Amendment but since October 1940 all Native Americans are now US citizens as well as members/citizens of Indian nations and tribes. (Nationalities Act)
                  As a historical footnote, some are covered by the Jay Treaty with Canada and have dual US/Canadian citizenship by law. Many Indians who wanted to fight fascists in WWII enrolled in the Canadian Army, because the UK was at war in September 1939 and the US did not enter the war until December 1941. They served valiantly and earned several commendations.

              • CB1138

                Anybody present in the United States is “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”. Therefore, the phrase must mean something more. In the context of illegal immigration, it means illegal migrants are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. They remain subjects of Mexico or wherever they are from. Courts should not interpret any clause in a Constitutional Amendment to be a nullity, so they have to deal with the “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” as something more than mere physical presence in the borders of the U.S.

            • Wroots

              If you take a look at US citizenship laws you will find it applies to US territories as well as US territorial waters and the parentage matters not. I think there is an island in the South Pacific where this does not apply. My cousin was automatically a US citizen as well as being a British citizen (because he was born to British parents). To confirm/officialize his citizenship he had to have lived in the US for maybe two or three years (I can’t recall exactly how long) by the age of 18 to 21 (again, I cannot recall the exact age), and at that point he would have had to have made a choice between British and American citizenship. I believe this changed round about 1981 when the requirement to have resided for some years in the US was eliminated.

              • RichardBond

                I think you are right on the point of your cousin being eligible as you say. I am from a United States territory and my father also worked in American Samoa. The territory was originally acquired under a lease and it’s status is subject to litigation in international law. There for Samoans born in Samoa are treated as American nationals but do not become citizens until moving to the fifty states. Under current practice the parents immigration status does not matter but that extension to the children of illegal aliens is not actually protected within the Constitution. http://cis.org/birthright-citizenship

                • Wroots

                  Thanks for the link. That was quite a long but interesting read! The birthright citizenship map is quite an eyeopener. Only North, Central (excepting Costa Rica) and South America (with the exception of Suriname), and Barbados support birthright citizenship. Any idea why this birthright is limited to the Americas?

                • catsrock

                  The extension to the children of illegal aliens is most certainly protected by the Constitution. The 14th Amendment says ALL persons born, not some persons born. The Supreme Court reaffirmed the matter in 1898 and that decision has since never been questioned

                  • Brock Henderson

                    And that was a constitutionally incorrect ruling, and in point of fact it has been questioned, and by that I mean fully refuted. That’s enough lying for one day, little boy.

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            • catsrock

              “Subject to the jurisdiction of” means exactly what it says. It means “subject to the jurisdiction of”, which refers to where you are. If you live in a state, regardless of your status as immigrant or citizen, you are subject to that state’s jurisdiction. If you are just passing through, you are subject to its jurisdiction. Your willingness or ability to obey the laws of that state is irrelevant. You are still subject to its jurisdiction.
              Clive Bundy was born in the United States and has resided in this country his entire life. Yet he is unwilling to obey its laws. Does that mean that he is not a citizen?
              And besides, we are talking about persons born in this country, not their parents. Being born is not a crime.

        • Wroots

          By the way, my cousin was born within US territorial waters to non-American parents on a ship bound for Europe. He automatically became an American citizen because of the unfortunate fact of being born within US territorial waters. He never lived in the US nor did he ever set foot on US soil.

          • RichardBond

            Acceptance of dual citizenship is even more recent than the reinterpretation of the 14th Amendment which happened in 1898. You traditionally obtain your parents nationality with the option of making a switch at majority. The United States did not traditionally allow people to hold dual citizenship ordinarily. Someone in the situation you describe is likely to have taken their parents citizenship. This would have been their citizenship rather than American citizenship.

            • catsrock

              And?
              What has your post to do with people born in the United States?

        • Howard Hudson

          “The 14th Amendment does not confer citizenship on those people who have entered the country illegally. ” Correct, but irrelevant. The article talks about children born in the US. Other sections of the Immigration and Naturalization Act do confer citizenship on persons who entered without permission, though there’s a ton of paperwork.
          “That came 30 years later in a court case in which one of the judges deliberately misinterpreted it.” Wrong and irrelevant. If you are not a Supreme Court justice, how can you tell what the interpretation should have been? Do you hate America or something? This is the system we have. Besides which, the Wong Kim Ark case does not grant citizenship to anyone who entered without permission, it clarifies that these children born in the United States ARE ALREADY CITIZENS. By the way, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), was a 6 -2 decision (McKenna recused himself), so several judges deliberately misinterpreted it, if you are even remotely correct. Which of the six were they? No answer? Not surprised.

          • RichardBond

            The place where the extension of citizenship to the children of illegal aliens appears and originates is specifically in the opinion on it written by Horace Gray. It is not within the Wong Kim Ark Supreme Court decision itself. The extension is not protected by either the Constitution or the Wong Kim Ark decision. The practice hangs on the opinion of one judge. My great grandfather was a federal judge who practiced before and brought cases to the Supreme Court. I do not intend to waste my valuable time further. http://cis.org/birthright-citizenship

            • Howard Hudson

              Fair enough. But you should read the decision yourself, instead of relying on groups like CIS. Justice Gray wrote the opinion and 5 more justices joined it it. That reflects a clear majority of the court. Two justices dissented, and lost. CIS is on the side that lost. That decision of the court has NEVER been questioned in over 100 years. And, it isn’t “one line,” it is pages of legal explanation to give guidance to lower courts in similar cases. It is a very solid opinion.

              • RichardBond

                They agreed on some things and disagreed on others. They agreed that Wong Kim Ark was a citizen but his parents were legally present. Horace Gray wrote the opinion which broadened it to the extent that it covered the children of parents who were not legal. CIS would have extended citizenship to Wong Kim Ark also. It in fact has been repeatedly questioned in legal and history academic journals it has not been taken to Congress yet.

                • catsrock

                  Wong Kim Ark’s parents were not in this country legally. They were Chinese and excluded.

      • Barbedwire

        Ex: dishonest reporting – “Texas denies….immigrant…”???? The title leaves out the “little” most important factor??? ILLEGAL. If the courts do some research, as I did years ago; the amendment was interpreted incorrectly in 1898. It pertained to slaves. This amendment does not PROVIDE CITIZENSHIP TO ANCHOR BABIES, babies born to illegals, who manage to drop their child in the U.S. It creates an illegal family, so it is being interpreted contrary to current Fed. Law of illegal immigration. No other country provides citizenship in this manner, and it is something, basically, the U.S.A. can NO LONGER AFFORD. If the lawsuit is honest, the current practice of anchor babies WILL BE ELIMINATED, once and for all, thank God.

        • GR Arnold

          I agree. The best thing we ever could’ve done in Texas was to elect an aggressive former state Attorney General as Governor, like Greg Abbott. He’s never been afraid to stand up to DC. I hope this sets a precedent that will hopefully be irreversible.

      • Americadies

        Animals come here to drop their residue and we should care for them?

        • mulga mumblebrain

          Is that you, Donald Trump?

          • Americadies

            Silly liberal doe not like to hear facts.

        • Wroots

          What about the animals that came here, dropped their residue, and killed off millions of native Indians? You forget perhaps that all Americans who are not native Indians are nothing but immigrants.

          • RichardBond

            To make a statement like this and think you can get away with is an indicator you do not know many native Indians. Most are low skilled and are in areas with higher than average unemployment. The existence of a status quo which has weak enforcement against illegal immigration damages them.

            • Wroots

              Actually, no one knows the number of American Indians who were killed off. Not even they themselves. The highly varying estimates I have seen are up to 20 million.

              Yes, it is true that many immigrants from poorer countries are low-skilled, but so what? There are many low-skill jobs to be done. They are very often jobs that higher-skilled people refuse to do. The areas with higher than average unemployment are likely to be poorer areas in general with lower rents, so they are likely to attract people who cannot afford more expensive places to live. This is one of the main reasons why you end up with higher unemployment in poorer areas.

          • SilentBillyBob

            You also fail to acknowledge Native Americans themselves migrated across the Bering Strait thousands of years ago. This has been proven through genetic similarities between Plains Indians and Japanese. Thus, they are immigrants, too.
            So, where do you draw the line?
            I tend to draw it where there is a sovereign nation with laws against incursion.

            • Wroots

              Actually, it hasn’t been proven conclusively at all. There were always two theories – one involving crossing the Bering Strait when it was frozen, although why anyone would tackle such a journey with nothing to eat but ice along the way, no destination in mind, and no idea of the length of such a hike, is a mystery. The other theory is that Asian people crossed the Pacific to central and south America and migrated northwards. Recent carbon-dated findings in South America suggest that humans existed there 40,000 years ago, which is 30,000 years earlier than the Bering theory.

              So, where do I draw the line? In the case of the Americas, humans are apparently not indigenous, so the first migrants arrived and did not displace existing populations. Europeans arrived in the Americas and killed off 85-95% of the population. So it was okay to do that because what are now countries had not declared themselves to be sovereign states? The notion of sovereign states is ours. It wasn’t theirs. It was us who carved up the land, created borders, and politicized it.

              • SilentBillyBob

                “Actually, it hasn’t been proven conclusively at all.”

                It seems you’ve missed the memo. Genetic profiling has pretty much proved it VERY conclusively.

                “In the case of the Americas, humans are apparently not indigenous, so the first migrants arrived and did not displace existing populations.”

                You just mentioned a population in effect 40,000 years ago. Were they not displaced as well?
                Populations have been displace on every continent save one: Antarctica. The end result usually being the “indigenous” population is completely eradicated.
                Saying Native American populations didn’t displace a pre-existent population is foolhardy at best, and I personally take it to be a disingenuous statement for discussion.

                • Wroots

                  I didn’t say that the first arrivals in the Americas were not from Asia. I only said that the Bering Strait theory had not been proven to be the migration route or even the only migration route. As for Asians being displaced from Asia 40,000 years ago, who knows by whom or by what? Who knows how they arrived or who they might have displaced? No one knows this. Absolutely no one. All we know is that humans arrived somehow. In fact, the ice-free corridor by which scientists have believed for the past 50 years that people of Asian origin arrived is now being disputed:

                  “Recent studies demonstrate that Beringia and the unglaciated areas of North America remained separated by the continental glacier until about 11,000 BP (12,550 cal BP) when the glaciers had melted enough to enable people to move from eastern Beringia southward into the lower latitudes of North America (Rutter 1984, Clague et al. 1989, Jackson and Duk-Rodkin 1996, Jackson et al. 1997). Because the ice sheets blocked this southern route, the North American continent south of the glaciers could not have been colonized by humans on foot until sometime about 11,000 BP (12,550 cal BP). Support for this conclusion has been presented by paleontologists working in central Canada. They have found no animal bones dating between about 21,000 to 11,500 BP (until 13,050 cal BP) in the region formerly believed to be the ice-free corridor (Burns 1996). This demonstrates fairly conclusively that the ice-free corridor did not exist and that the glaciers prevented the area from being inhabited by animals during the last Ice Age. This evidence precludes a mid-continental route for human entry before about 11,500 to 11,000 BP (13,050-12,550 cal BP).

                  While this geological research has been taking place in Canada, important archaeological evidence has been accumulating at sites across North and South America. There are numerous sites throughout the Americas believed by some researchers to be older than 11,500 BP (fig.1). While the age and cultural origin of these sites are considered controversial by some researchers, this growing body of data strongly supports the concept that humans were widespread throughout the Americas prior to the melting of the continental glaciers approximately 11,500-11,000 BP (13,100-12,550 cal BP).”

                  The above is from: http://www.athenapub.com/10Dixon.htm

                  Now, if there were no animal remains, there were no human remains either (since humans are animals); therefore, there were no humans to displace.

                  Remains dating back 30,000 years have been on display in Brazil: http://news.discovery.com/history/did-humans-arrive-in-americas-30000-years-ago-131014

                  And this: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2000/feb/11/archaeology.internationalnews

                  According to Stephen Shennan, professor of archaeology at University College London, “there has been a degree of nationalism because the north Americans cannot believe that they do not have the oldest site.”

                  “There is a feeling that it’s a blow against US imperialism. The evidence is open to different interpretations, so people tend to choose their favourite interpretation in terms of their biases. There is a certain tendency to cast aspersions on other people’s excavation techniques.”

                  Yes, well, say no more. We all know how that works. The thing is that the Bering Strait theory is most likely wrong, at least until the ice melted, and when the migrations across the Strait were supposed to have occurred, there were already populations living throughout the Americas. So no exceptional oldest sites in the US after all.

                  • SilentBillyBob

                    “I didn’t say that the first arrivals in the Americas were not from Asia.”

                    Well, yes you did… twice:
                    “You forget perhaps that all Americans who are not native Indians are nothing but immigrants.”
                    “Mind you, all Americans excepting Native Indians are immigrants.”

                    Such statements predicate that Native American Populations were indeed indigenous. Which, clearly, they were not.
                    So, which is it? You are trying to have your cake and eat it, too.

                    And as to the rest of your blathering; genetic profiling has very conclusively shown American Indian populations to be the result of migration from Asia.
                    It matters not if the mechanism were the Bering Strait, canoes – or grape leaves.

                    What is unknown, and may never be known, is WHO the Native Americans displaced.
                    There was a time when NAM did not have a human population, but it is increasingly looking like the Native Americans DID displace a human population when they migrated to NAM.

                    • Wroots

                      Yes, you’re right, but you know that I was speaking from the modern perspective of immigration and not from that of untracked (no paperwork) natural migrations of ancient tribes. You know perfectly well that I did not mean that the Indians of the Americas were not originally migrants from Asia (and possibly elsewhere), but that they had been in the Americas for tens of thousands of years before they were killed off in very large numbers starting 500 years ago by Europeans (British, French, Spanish and Portuguese). It is by no means clear (yet) that there were populations already living in North America when Asian migrants arrived. As far as I am aware, all DNA testing of ancient remains has resulted in Asian connections, with more recent remains of chickens possibly being of Polynesian origin.

                      By the way, it DOES matter whether the mechanism for the arrival of wanderers from Asia were the Bering Strait, canoes – or grape leaves. It MUST matter, otherwise scientists wouldn’t have wasted their time disputing it for the past umpteen decades.

                      PS By “NAM”, do you mean North America? I googled it and it seems to be nothing but an acronym for the Non-Aligned Movement, National Association of Manufacturers, and Nederlandse Aardolie Maatschappij.

                      • SilentBillyBob

                        …”you know that I was speaking from the modern perspective of immigration”…
                        What happened 500 years ago has no correlation to the modern perspective of immigration, either.
                        AGAIN, you are trying to have your cake and eat it, too.
                        EITHER, the European invasion of the Americas, AND the migration of Asian peoples across the Pacific – OR you simply concern yourself with immigration in the United States since it’s founding.
                        You are cherry-picking which of your “facts” to have a hissy-fit over.

                        “By the way, it DOES matter whether the mechanism for the arrival of wanderers from Asia were the Bering Strait, canoes – or grape leaves.”
                        In the context of this conversation, it really doesn’t.
                        The fact has (and will have) historical significance. I don’t say it doesn’t matter.

                        But, if the entire point of discussion is the displacement of pre-existing populations, it matters not how the people migrated.

                        “PS By “NAM”, do you mean North America?”
                        Yes, it is a commonly used acronym in global operations – the same as ACP, APJ (or APAC), CEC, EAS, ECS, EEC, EMEA, LAC, MEA, PIF, or SEA.
                        This is by no means intended to be an exhaustive list. It is what I can think of off the top of my head. You will forgive me for any missed.

                    • Wroots

                      Just a quick question re your statement, “but it is increasingly looking like the Native Americans DID displace a human population when they migrated to NAM.”

                      Please could you provide a link to this? “Increasingly looking like” would seem to suggest that you are keeping track of anthropological discoveries. I’d be interested to read the research.

          • Indians are immigrants as well!

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            • Wroots

              But what Indians? You need to be more specific. American Indians or East Indians? European invaders arrived in the Americas only five centuries ago so their history is short (much shorter, in fact, than human history on other continents where they count in terms of tens of thousands of years). American Indians have lived in the Americas for at least 40-50,000 years. I think they’ve earned the right of precedence since they have been in the Americas (but not necessarily for quite that long in what is now known as the United States) around 100 times longer.

          • Americadies

            To the victor go the spoils.

      • Karole Conaway

        They are not legal immigrants! They are illegal immigrants. Obama’s goal is to turn this country into a third world country and the only ones who will benefit from that are the elite corporate b&%#*@ds who will be able to pay a much lower wage to everyone in the country. That is what the illegal immigration crap is all about. That and bringing members of isis into the country to kill American citizens!

        • SILVERSTRICK

          WASHINGTON D.C JEWS AGENDA IS TO CREATE CHAOS AMONGS MINORITIES WHO ARE IGNORANT OF LAW AND ORDER, AND FOCUS THE ATTENTION OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ON THESE ISSUES IN ORDER TO CONTINUE WITH THEIR SATANIC AGENDA OF DISMANTALING THE REPUBLIC, SO FAR THEY HAVE DONE A TREMEDUS JOB OF DISTRUCTION,AS THEIR MAIN WEAPON OF MISSINFORMTION AND SELECTIVE TRUTHS CONTINUE TO KEEP THE TAX PAYER FROM UNDERSTANDING THE TRUE EVIL OF THESE GODLESS TRIBE

        • Wroots

          The US is already a third world country. Every country on Earth has a first (rich) and third (poor) world within it. The thing is that with the steady decline of the US middle class and the astronomical growth of the class that is classified as poor/living below the poverty line (currently over 50% of Americans), the third world in the US is growing. Just like in the third world countries you have in mind, the wealth in the US is concentrated in the hands of the few.

          If you removed all illegal immigrants, you would still have the same economic, social and environmental problems you see today. And very soon now as the US becomes more and more globally isolated by BRICS, AIIB, and the EEU, your problems are going to worsen.

          As for ISIS killing American citizens, why should they bother when your police forces are doing such an excellent job of wiping out Americans? In March 2015 your wonderful cops killed twice as many American citizens as were killed by UK police in the whole of the 20th century.

        • Howard Hudson

          OK, they are not IMMIGRANTS because they were born here. Immigrating means moving to somewhere new. Peruse a dictionary or look it up in Title 8 of the US Code. It’s probably in 8 USC 1101, the definitions section.

          • They are illegal aliens criminals! Get it right!

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      • SilentBillyBob

        It’s about TIME!
        The 14th Amendment completed its mission 100 years ago. It should have been repealed when we entered the 20th Century.

        • Barbedwire

          Since it pertained to SLAVES, yes, no longer valid.

          • Wroots

            No, it didn’t. It refers to “African Americans”, not “African slaves”.

            The Citizenship Clause is the first sentence of Section 1 in the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which states that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” This clause represented Congress’s reversal of a portion of the Dred Scott v. Sandford decision which had declared that African Americans were not and could not become citizens of the United States or enjoy any of the privileges and immunities of citizenship.

            • Bill Rood

              It refers to neither “African Americans”, nor “slaves.” It applies to all people born in the United States and subject to its laws. Adding the parents’ citizenship to the qualifications would open all sorts of cans of worms, such as challenges to citizenship that would have to investigate several generations of ancestors to determine their citizenship of lack thereof. It is what it is and must not be changed.

              It being what it is, Texas’ denial of birth certificates is unconstitutional and a deliberate violation of the civil rights of the child. This is illegal and may in fact be a felony. Whatever the penalty is, the people responsible need to be held accountable according to Federal law.

              • Wroots

                You’re right. It doesn’t specifically refer to either African Americans or slaves, but the point is that the clause represented Congress’s REVERSAL of a portion of the Dred Scott v. Sandford decision which had declared that “African Americans were not and could not become citizens of the United States or enjoy any of the privileges and immunities of citizenship”.

                You’re also right when you say that Texas’ refusal to give birth certificates is unconstitutional and therefore illegal. Birthright citizenship only exists in the Americas. If people want to stop this they have to work towards changing the law, not to violating it.

              • larrymotuz

                I think it should qualify as identity theft and punished accordingly and severely.

                • Bill Rood

                  I see your point. Denial of a birth certificate is in essence denial of any identity whatsoever, turning the child into a non-person in both the child’s country of birth and in the parents’ country of origin as well, which likely will require documentation of the birth for its own bureaucratic purposes.

        • Wroots

          But wouldn’t repealing it mean stripping American Blacks and their children of citizenship?

          • SilentBillyBob

            Of course not. Many laws are repealed after they have served their purpose.
            Repealing them does not retroactively “undo” their effects.
            Why would you think that?

            • Wroots

              Wouldn’t it create a legal loophole for lawyers to argue that African Blacks’ offspring have no rights to citizenship? I’m not so sure that the law has served its purpose. If it were repealed, wouldn’t you be back in the pre-law situation where African Blacks don’t have the right to citizenship?

              • SilentBillyBob

                No. To all of your posits: No.

                You appear to have absolutely no understanding of retroactivity in US (or even global) legal structure. It simply is not allowed; except is specific, special circumstance.

                Repealing the 14th Amendment wouldn’t even strip the Illegal anchor babies of THEIR citizenship. It would simply prevent more illegals sidestepping US immigration process.

                • Wroots

                  You are probably more than right when you say I have no understanding of retroactivity in the legal structure. Hence my various questions. What I don’t understand even more than that is why repealing the law would make a difference if it only applied to African Blacks.

                  The question I would like to have answered is why people are able to “sidestep” the US immigration process. How do they cross the borders? Of course, I know that people slip into the US clandestinely as they do across many countries’ borders, but I refer to legal border crossings. I am by no means certain of this, but I may have been an “illegal” myself once. It never occurred to me that I would need a permit/visa. I had never even heard of such a thing before so I acted in total ignorance. Previously, I had worked in the Canary Islands (Spanish) and in Spain for a total of 18 months and I was not required (as far as I know) to have a visa. I didn’t know any differently, and no one asked – and that was under Franco’s regime when I would have expected things to be more tightly controlled. Re my legality in the US, my Canadian fiance was studying at a US university. Did he have a student visa? No idea. I didn’t know about such things so I didn’t ask. I joined him when he was writing his dissertation for his PhD. I cannot recall whether I obtained a visa before travelling to the US. It was a long time ago – 45 years. I worked, opened a bank account, got married there, and then left the US 14 months later when my husband graduated. No one at all ever asked me for any documentation apart from my passport when I entered and left the US. I am not claiming ignorance as an excuse if I was indeed an illegal at that time, but, on the other hand, you’d think that the authorities would have done a better job. Maybe things were just more relaxed in those days and I am not in the “visible minority” category. These days, I am sure that most “illegals” know exactly what they are doing when they enter the US without the necessary papers and with intent to remain, but the authorities know this too, so surely you cannot blame it all on illegal immigrants. US immigration needs to do a much better job. BTW, per capita, the US has the highest percentage of illegal immigrants in the world. Three times higher, in fact, than the other most popular target countries such as Germany, France, UK, and Italy.

                  I have a question for you re anchor babies. If illegal immigrants – let’s say a married couple – have a baby in the US, and if that baby is automatically a US citizen, does that give the parents the legal right to remain to look after the child? I ask because there have been cases in Canada where the parents (non-citizens) have been deported and older children who are Canadian citizens by birthright have been allowed to stay in Canada.

                  • SilentBillyBob

                    Just so you know, it has been hours since I replied to this particular post. It was a long reply, addressing most, if not all, of your questions. I actually took the time, since your questions this time were of a more sincere nature, as opposed to previous questions which appeared to be “asked” solely for the purpose of pointed out how terrible you think the US to be.

                    Perhaps you can petition the MintPress gods approve the reply.

                  • SilentBillyBob

                    Just so you know, it has been hours since I replied to this particular post. It was a long reply, addressing most, if not all, of your questions. I actually took the time, since your questions this time were of a more sincere nature, as opposed to previous questions which appeared to be “asked” solely for the purpose of pointed out how terrible you think the US to be.

                    Perhaps you can petition the MintPress gods approve the reply.

                    • Wroots

                      This is the reply referencing the “long reply” you sent to me. It didn’t make an appearance until after this one. No idea why. Anyhow, in the absence of your long reply I wrote a long one to you that I then accidentally deleted. It was mainly focussed on my work experiences over the past 25 years with new immigrants (parents and kids) in multi-ethnic inner city schools in Canada, and their problems with isolation caused largely by white Canadians’ covert racism. I also mentioned my doctor’s experiences with the suffering, which includes deep depression and other mental illnesses, that new immigrants’ experience due to being isolated from community life. No matter how much they attempt to integrate into the community, they are excluded. My doctor said that four out of five of his new immigrant patients have nothing physically wrong with them, but they are super-distressed by the isolation, and sit in his office and cry. He is now working on a programme with the federal government to assist new immigrants with their integration when they arrive in the country. Well, this is for legal immigrants. Stir into the isolation mix the fear of deportation or prison and the illegal immigrant is likely to be more of a mess.

                      I once helped a Somalian woman up a flight of steps with her baby in a stroller and two small children hanging onto her. I chatted with her for a while. Her husband and family members had all been killed in the fighting. She was pregnant at the time but managed to escape with the two children, and they were subsequently granted refugee status in Canada. I asked her how she liked Canada and how she was getting on. Her eyes filled with tears and she told me that she would rather return to Somalia and the war than live with the isolation in Canada.

                      One thing I would wish is that people would realize that it’s no fun at all to be an immigrant. I speak from experience because I am one. You’d think that because I share the same heritage as many Canadians, the same (more or less) first language, and even the same head of state (QEII) that I would blend in. Physically I do, but culturally I don’t. Even though I have gone home for one or two months a year for the past 30 years, I still miss home a lot and on occasions I have been desperately homesick. I know for a fact that many immigrants also miss their country of origin and many would like to return but are unable to do so. The state of a country in the aftermath of war is one reason for their inability to go home. No homes, infrastructure destroyed, no work, no livelihood. Some have enough money to travel back home for at least a family visit/reunion, but many do not.

                      I feel sorry for them. Home is always home, the heart is always with the home country and not with the adopted country, and the feeling of always being a fish out of water is a normal state. Not fun.

                      I live in an area that is predominantly French Canadian with around 40,000 Native Indians and Inuit. A lot of French-speaking Africans move into this area as well. I find that they often look downwards and their expression suggests that they expect me to be unaccepting of them. It’s so sad. I make a point of smiling and saying hello to them, and the transformation in their demeanour is instantaneous. It’s good to make people feel welcome, and the returns are that they then greet me on the street and this is something that generally improves the feeling of friendliness and tolerance in the neighbourhood. I would always choose to live in a multi-ethnic community over one of those soul-destroying white bedroom communities in the ‘burbs.

                      So you see from my work and choice of living environment, I am not racist and I have a great deal of sympathy for the plight of immigrants (myself included), whether they are legal or illegal. Also, I have experienced three nasty racist incidents in Africa, Asia and Central America where insults and objects (sticks and stones) were thrown at me, and also another one where I was threatened with an axe – one incident on account of being white, one for being European, and two because I was assumed to be a “Yankee”. The latter two were the easiest to cope with because the aggression stopped as soon as I said I was British and not American. Every racist should experience what it’s like to be racially targetted. It’s really ugly.

              • What is your need to keep making this a black and white thing. Get with the program. It’s about illegal law breaking criminal aliens and the anti-American trash that supports them.

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                • Wroots

                  Do you have trouble reading?

                  This is from your very own 14th Amendment:

                  “The Citizenship Clause is the first sentence of Section 1 in the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which states that “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” This clause represented Congress’s reversal of a portion of the Dred Scott v. Sandford decision which had declared that African Americans were not and could not become citizens of the United States or enjoy any of the privileges and immunities of citizenship.”

                  The African American clause is what changed things in the US Constitution. Last time I looked African Americans were Blacks – hence the “Black-White” references.

                  • They are Americans of African descent. In other words just Americans. That’s our problem in this country. Everyone wants to segregate and be special instead of equal.

                • SilentBillyBob

                  Wroots is what is known as an instigator or agitator.

                  He either likes to make crap up, or take actual facts and bend them to his agenda.
                  All for the sole purpose of being a divisive troll.

                  • Wroots

                    No, m’dear, this is not true. I try to find out the reasons for things being as they are because “. they don’t suddenly happen out of the blue. You’ll notice that I have asked a number of questions because I did not know the answers. I don’t need to make things up. I didn’t make up the clause from the Constitution that I posted, and I didn’t make up the events surrounding my cousin’s birth in US territorial waters. Neither did I make up the figures about the number of citizens killed by US cops in March 2015 compared with those killed by British cops in the whole of the 20th century. The reasons for people emigrating are in reputable online reports. How about what I said about US Immigration being a mess? Isn’t this the truth? I mean, why else would the US have three times as many illegal immigrants per capita than other top would-be-immigrant target countries such as the UK, Germany, France, Greece, and Italy? I can only surmise that US authorities are inefficient.

                    But maybe you think my comments about the US already being a third world country rankled. Well, try googling “US heading to be a third world country”. You’ll only find about 877,000,000 results so it might take you a while to read through them, and I can assure you that I didn’t write a single one of them.

                    So, please, do tell me in detail what you think I invented. Could it be that people would prefer to believe that I am making things up rather than to face the truth?

                    Now it’s my turn to guess. Were you standing on your jump-to-conclusions mat when you wrote, “HE likes to make crap up”?

                    • SilentBillyBob

                      “You’ll notice that I have asked a number of questions because I did not know the answers.”
                      I particularly noticed you asked the same question TWICE. You didn’t like the first answer because it did not fit the narrative of your agenda. So you asked the same thing again. Did you really expect the answer to change in a few hours?

                      “I didn’t make up the events surrounding my cousin’s birth in US territorial waters.”
                      I don’t know if you did or not. With your activity on this board, I see no reason to to rely heavily on your morals or ethics. You clearly have an agenda, and you are clearly divisive.
                      Such people are generally not among those who inspire much trust in me.

                      “I mean, why else would the US have three times as many illegal immigrants per capita than other top would-be-immigrant target countries…”
                      Because we have had multiple administrations who have not enforced the laws they swore to uphold. One of the worst offenders in US history is currently in the Whitehouse.

                      Added to which, we share a border with the main offending country that is similar in length to the borders of ALL FIVE of the countries you listed; COMBINED.

                      “I can only surmise that US authorities are inefficient.”
                      I do not contest this statement in the least.
                      Welcome to the bureaucracy.

                      “But maybe you think my comments about the US already being a third world country rankled.”
                      No. First, I’m not rankled. It takes a lot more than inept agitator to bother me.
                      Second, I’ve worked on 4 continents. I’ve SEEN third world.
                      Our worst is nowhere close to real 3rd world.
                      Further, we roll out the welcome mat to anyone, even those here illegally. The only people that actually know hunger or lack health care are the ones who socially isolate THEMSELVES. And, there is usually a soup kitchen and someplace to sleep within blocks of these very indigents.

                      “So, please, do tell me in detail what you think I invented.”
                      Well, for the purpose of staying on topic: Your continued “questioning” (insistence, really) that repealing the 14th Amendment would somehow strip African-Americans of their citizenship.
                      Any numbskull with a milli-gram of sense would know that would not, could not, happen. Yet, you continued to try and push the idea because is brings about a knee-jerk negative reaction.
                      This is the very definition of divisiveness.
                      The reality is, whitey got over being racist a few decades ago. The only people keeping racism alive are the “victims”, and clueless international yahoos such as yourself.

                      “Now it’s my turn to guess. Were you standing on your jump-to-conclusions mat when you wrote, “HE likes to make crap up”?”
                      No, it’s a generally accepted convention of English. Since there is no Neuter gender, when gender is uncertain or irrelevant, masculine gender is used – unless speaking of ships, planes, dirigibles or other means of conveyance. Then, for whatever reason, the feminine gender is preferred.
                      I don’t care if you are male or female.
                      You are simply a pot-stirrer.

          • Nice attempt! Try to stay on topic. Think like an American! It won’t hurt. I promise!!

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            • Wroots

              Thanks, but no thanks. I’d rather not think like an American. I’ve known too many American thinkers to even try to do that.

      • Frankdidit

        Geeeeeeeeee, take a look all,I see Greg is awake and can even complete a sentence. Obummer is the empty suit in the White House. Got it!!!!!!
        Thanks for the reply.

      • catwalknumber2

        Texas is doing a good thing, because illegal aliens all over America are taking advantage of America’s birthright laws, they are here illegally, there are no way their children who are born here should get an automatic American citizenship! stp illegal immigration over population in America, it would help stop them from taking over America as they had planned! Illegal aliens take advantage of this, also because it help them get a lot of benefits from our government freebies, and get in the front of lines of poor American citizens forthese benefits, it helps millions of them to get into our low income housings, sec. 8 programs, just leaving Americans on a long waiting list, a 10 years or more waiting list! our lawmakers could care less about all of this, all of their benefits are being paid for by American taxed dollars! America wants to give illegal aliens two much things in America, and it is making illegal immigration difficult! American birthright laws need to be stop to illegal aliens all over America period, also driver license, government freebies, and America should have no sanctuary cities for illegal aliens period!!!! illegal aliens should not have no rights in America, therefore they should not be able to sue any one at all in America, America needs some one in congress that is not afraid to say no to illegal aliens in America, America needs some one who will stop allowing illegal aliens to ride on the back of their children, illegal aliens should not be able to use the excuses about them being separated for their families, and allowing that excuse for their children, that they come to America at no fault of their own! because of this they should get rewarded, our laws and immigration laws needs to be strongly enforce now!

        • alfie0077

          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.

          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

          • Karole Conaway

            The muslims coming into the country illegally across our southern border would be very upset to hear you call them catholics. They might even chop your head off.

            • GR Arnold

              But he’s not very far from being 100% correct. I know some good Catholics but almost ALL of them are liberals to some identifiable degree. I’m convinced Satan is indeed trying to infiltrate the Catholic church and has been for some time now.

              • SILVERSTRICK

                SATAN IS NOT TRYING TO INFILTRATE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, SATAN IS SITTING RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE CATHOLIC POWER STRUCTURE BEGINING WITH A JESUIT JEW AS A POPE, ALL LARGE CONGREGATIONS THAT ARE GEARED TO EXTRACT 10% OR MORE FROM THE TOP OF ALL BLESSINGS GOD GIVES TO HIS BODY OF BELIVERS ARE JEWSAND THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE DECIVED THE BELIVER THAT THESE IMPOSTOR JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN OF GOD, WHEN IN TRUTH THESE CRIMINALS ARE SATAN’S KIDS, GOD DIVORCE HIMSELF FROM THE TRUE BIBLICAL HEBREWS OVER 490 YEARS PRIOR TO THE COMEING OF JESUS CHRIST, THAT WAS THE REASON WHY ISRAHELL WAS DESTROYED BY ROME TO ITS FUNDATIONS.
                BUT NOT BEFORE THE CHRISTIAN BELIVERS WERE DELIVERD FROM THE DESTRUCTION OF ROME BY GOD GETTING THEM OUT OF ISRAHELL IN THE YEAR 50 AD. 20 YEARS BEFORE ROME DESTROYED THE GODLESS HEBREWS,AND THEIR NATION, WHAT HAVE IN ISRAHELL NOW ARE IMPOSTOR CONVERTED BEASTS FROM EAST EUROPE WITH MEX EUROPEAN AND MONGOLIAN BLOOD, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THE GODLESS FALSE TEACHERS ARE NOT TEACHING THE IGNORANT BELIVERS

                • alfie0077

                  no need to holler all the time.

        • alfie0077

          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.

          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

        • Wroots

          I wish we could kick out the American aliens overseas that are unwanted in our countries. The estimate is 8 million, but it could be more because the US is pathetic at tracking anything to do with emigration and immigration. Maybe if the US stopped smashing up other countries and rendering so many millions of people destitute, you would have fewer of both the legal and illegal immigrant persuasion. Mind you, all Americans excepting Native Indians are immigrants.

          • Idiot

            • Wroots

              Your ignorance of the reasons for immigration is showing. Try reading this:

              https://www.weareoneamerica.org/root-causes-migration-fact-sheet

              An excerpt – “Root Causes of Migration: Globalization is not the only factor affecting global migration: U.S. economic and foreign policy decisions-such as the war in Iraq or NAFTA-have fueled migration and immigration. This has created an influx of both economic and political refugees here in the U.S. In many ways, American foreign policy has created migration flows, but American domestic policy has failed to create a system to account for the consequences of its foreign policy.”

              In other words, you reap what you sow.

              • You’re like a person that’s read a car repair book trying to tell someone that’s worked on cars how it is… I’ve been there and dealt with these law breakers!

                • Wroots

                  I haven’t told you or anyone else how to fix the immigration problem, only given a few reasons why the problem of migration was created, and continues to be created. I tend to think that what is done is done so draw the line in the sand now and start doing something different as other countries have done. No other country has such a high per capita percentage of illegal immigrants – not even countries like Germany that are surrounded by other countries with which they share multiple border crossings. What are those countries doing differently? Why does the US have such a high percentage of illegals? Start with the low-hanging fruit. Perhaps an amnesty for existing illegals. Fix the inefficiencies with immigration at border crossings. Stop birthright citizenship. Stop human trafficking and the enslavement of illegals (number currently pegged at 60,000 in the US). Rigorously check places of employment for employers who employ illegal immigrants. Do things that deter would-be illegals from making an attempt to enter the country. No, I’m not a non-mechanic telling a mechanic how to fix a car, but only suggesting ways that might be able to start fixing it. Personally, I think you’re stuck with the problem because it’s too big to fix.

      • LaughingMonkey

        Good! Go Texas. We, the citizens of the United States of America, need to TAKE BACK OUR DAMN COUNTRY! I have said it for years. La Raza and the like have spent decades trying to take back the Southwest, which they believe we stole from them. They’ve damn well near done it, but as an added bonus, they get all our tax money, too. ENOUGH already. Deport them all and enforce the laws. No one in their right mind believes illegals should be given DRIVER’S LICENSES – our main, legal form of identification. Think of all the things you can do with that. Blazing idiots.

        • alfie0077

          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
          Know who the enemy really is.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

        • GR Arnold

          La Raza, Maldef, and LULAC are nothing but a bunch of racist and seditious organizations rivaling the terrorist Weather Underground. These organizations and it’s members need to be investigated and charged with sedition, every damn last one of them.

          • Clark W. Griswold

            Don’t forget MEChA!

        • alfie0077

          There is not one successful Catholic country on earth.
          Sanctuary means CATHOLIC.
          They are not ‘illegal immigrants’ they are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders. Invasion, conquest, subjugation, elimination is the schedule. Look south of the USA for proof of the ‘elimination’. Be Catholic or be dead.

          Jeb is a Catholic traitor! YOU should work harder so Jeb can get more illegal alien Catholic invaders to come in. The illegal alien Catholic invaders get debit cards, and YOU are paying for them. WORK
          HARDER for the illegal alien Catholic invaders!

          A third of all politicians are Catholic traitors. Half call themselves r and half d. Do not take lightly the phrase ‘god before county’ this really means ‘Vatican before the USA’. This is treason.

          This is not a ‘racist’ nor a ‘bigot’ statement since the folks that have to be un-elected are by and large whyte, fat, mostly male CATHOLIC traitors in congress. Those that can be elected can also be
          un-elected and this is because they are not defending the borders as they took the oath of office to do. PLEASE PASS THIS ON, TRUMP NEEDS HELP.

      • robert

        It’s about time we stood up and decided to stop the madness!!!!
        I am from Texas and I’m sick and tired of supporting all the ILLEGALS!!!
        I want to be able to support my own family!!!

        • alfie0077

          Then use the correct term for the vermin.
          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
          Know who the enemy really is.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

        • alfie0077

          Then use the correct term for the vermin.
          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
          Know who the enemy really is.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

          • Andy

            quit repeating your self and leave the Catholics out of it
            and I am nott a catholic

            • Dixianne Hawks

              The illegals are Catholics that’s why they multiply like they do. Their ship of state is sinking from being overloaded.

              • alfie0077

                Hooray for you Dix.
                Know who the enemy is! Know who to not vote for.
                There is not one successful Catholic country on earth.
                Sanctuary means CATHOLIC.
                They are not ‘illegal immigrants’ they are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
                Invasion, conquest, subjugation, elimination is the schedule. Look south of the USA for proof of the ‘elimination’. Be Catholic or be dead.

                Jeb is a Catholic traitor! YOU should work harder so Jeb can get more illegal alien Catholic invaders to come in. The illegal alien Catholic invaders get debit cards, and YOU are paying for them. WORK HARDER for the illegal alien Catholic invaders!

                A third of all politicians are Catholic traitors. Half call themselves r and half d. Do not take lightly the phrase ‘god before county’ this really means ‘Vatican before the USA’. This is treason.

                This is not a ‘racist’ nor a ‘bigot’ statement since the folks that have to be un-elected are by and large whyte, fat, mostly male CATHOLIC traitors in congress. Those that can be elected can also be un-elected and this is because they are not defending the borders as they took the oath of office to do. PLEASE PASS THIS ON, TRUMP NEEDS HELP.

            • alfie0077

              If the message is not repeated, some may miss out on it.
              If you ignore the message you have two choices when they take over.
              Be Catholic or be dead.

      • jacktee1234

        “YES!” Finally, a state with the moxie to take action against the BS interpretation of the 14th amendment which illegals and their supporters have used for years to pump out anchor babies. THANK YOU LONE STAR STATE!!

        • alfie0077

          Say it right!
          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
          Know who the enemy really is.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

        • alfie0077

          Say it right!
          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
          Know who the enemy really is.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

      • Ryuken13

        Thank you TEXAS for taking a stance on ANCHOR BABIES… Here is an idea.. They get citizenship, immediately put in the foster care system, and the parents are immediately deported.. Fair is fair. Kids are citizens they are not..

        We have to put an end to the loopholes the welfare desiring low skilled illegals use to exploit us.

        Or. Citizenship for children and parents have ZERO eligibility for welfare??

        • Karole Conaway

          But the children could be put on welfare and since their parents are responsible for the child’s care, the welfare state would have to take care of them, too. I like your first idea better. And I would add SECURE THE BORDER with electric fences!

          • Barbedwire

            These children are not citizens, this isn’t what the 14th amendment says; and no other country grants citizenship in this manner, much less the greatest nation in the world where people are dying to immigrate to. The 14th amendment pertained to slaves. It’s been mis-interpreted for a 100 years. Fix it NOW, thank you, Texas.

            • alfie0077

              I fear for a bad SCOTUS decision. Now, the SCOTUS is 6/9 hard core Catholic and is doing the Vatican work.

              • With justice #Roberts under Obuma’s thumb, the ruling is unsure!

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          • alfie0077

            Know who the enemy is! Know who to not vote for.
            There is not one successful Catholic country on earth.
            Sanctuary means CATHOLIC.
            They are not ‘illegal immigrants’ they are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.

            Invasion, conquest, subjugation, elimination is the schedule. Look
            south of the USA for proof of the ‘elimination’. Be Catholic or be
            dead.

            Jeb is a Catholic traitor! YOU should work harder so Jeb
            can get more illegal alien Catholic invaders to come in. The illegal
            alien Catholic invaders get debit cards, and YOU are paying for them.
            WORK HARDER for the illegal alien Catholic invaders!

            A third of
            all politicians are Catholic traitors. Half call themselves r and half
            d. Do not take lightly the phrase ‘god before county’ this really
            means ‘Vatican before the USA’. This is treason.

            This is not a
            ‘racist’ nor a ‘bigot’ statement since the folks that have to be
            un-elected are by and large whyte, fat, mostly male CATHOLIC traitors
            in congress. Those that can be elected can also be un-elected and this
            is because they are not defending the borders as they took the oath
            of office to do. PLEASE PASS THIS ON, TRUMP NEEDS HELP.

            • That’s what it’s all about. The Benjamins!

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          • Wroots

            Any idea how long that fence would be? Well, with the Pacific and Atlantic coasts, and the Mexican and Canadian borders included, it adds up to 102,514 miles. Add to the cost of the fencing the 24/7 electricity costs and also that of installation, maintenance and eventual replacement. Then there’s the ugliness factor and the little problem of access to beaches, marinas, ports, etc.

            • First of all you just finish building the 18 foot fence that’s already on the border. No matter what the liberal left says, the fence works and the farmers and ranchers are so glad that it was built in their area. No we’re talking about the Federal Government and they can’t do anything right.

              So at the El Paso & Hudspeth county line there is a 10 miles gap. Sierra Blanca down to Brownsville there is very little fencing. There is a little over 5,000 miles of border up north and around 2,000 on the southern border.

              I’ll telling everyone, we better get this border secure because when they start terrorist attacks congress will want America to trade more of its liberty for security.

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        • Barbedwire

          Since the parent(s) have custody, legal parent, the child is NOT a citizen and will go back to their homeland together. I realize how naive this sounds; but possibly instead of running away, these people who want more, should stay in their homeland and demand/fight for a better country? There is power in numbers.

          • Ryuken13

            Unfortunately, by the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment you are wrong. The anchor babies are American citizens. It would take a SCOTUS ruling or change in Congress to change that. Simply make no exceptions for the parents and deport them.. Once people learn the loophole is closed the abuse of the 14th Anendment will slow down..

            • GR Arnold

              I’ve tried to argue this interpretation of the 14th. Amendment is WRONG, as it has only been allowed to stand on bad case law. Allowing citizenship to babies born from people who are NOT supposed to be here in the first place is a mistake of law that has long, long needed to be rectified. Same goes for their Constitutional rights; if you are not supposed to be here then you should have no course of action(s) if you try to claim your Constitutional rights are, or have been, violated.

              • Ryuken13

                I agree it is a bad interpretation.. Let us hope our 9 SCOTUS judges, much like the clerics in Iran due to the power they hold, are appointed not elected, and have lifetime tenure that is virtually impossible to invalidate actually close this loophole that is ruining America.

                My guess: Nope.. The SCOTUS has become political and quit interpreting the Constitution fairly long ago.

                • alfie0077

                  SCOTUS is now a political arm of the VATICAN. Recent decisions back up my statement. The only answer is to vote the Catholics out, and then make laws that do what the 14th was supposed to do. The 14th was originally intended for the newly freed slaves.
                  To get a SCOTUS decision getting rid of them will not happen.

                  • Ryuken13

                    Gonna have to disagree with you on that. If Catholic and a Vatican arm why vote in favor of gay marriage??

                    • alex9234

                      And besides, NO religion praises gay marriage, not even freaking Islam. ISIS is killing gays in Iraq and Syria as we speak. Also, Iran denies the existence of gays and they hang them wherever they see them.
                      And I recall that one time here in Michigan, a Muslim bakery refused business for a same-sex couple

                      I honestly don’t care about gays, got nothing against them either, but still…

                      • Ryuken13

                        Great, they got gay marriage.. As predicted THAT ISN’T good enough.. Not much against them personally either except for the fact they target kids in public schools for indoctrination and the parents have no say in the matter. That sickens me, regardsless of topic if not school related and brings the Hitler Youth and the Russian Young Pioneer movements to mind. History repeats..

                        • alex9234

                          http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/06/no-truce-with-left.html – Highly recommend that you read this.

                        • Ryuken13

                          Yup.. All about power and the stupid people that let themselves get manipulated like sheep in a herd.

                        • Ryuken13

                          Yup.. All about power and the stupid people that let themselves get manipulated like sheep in a herd.

                • alex9234

                  Supreme Court justices should be limited to terms of 10 years.

                  • Ryuken13

                    Absolutely agree. Far too much power and no real check or balance protecting us from them.

          • Ryuken13

            The “power in numbers” worldview is naive IMO. These people overbreed due to ignorance and lack of birth control, are starving, have no money, and they are under armed in comparison with police and the true power South of Texas: Drug Cartels.. The strength in numbers you mention would be quickly and easily gunned down by the drug cartels..

            Don’t believe me? They leave lines of decapitated heads of people that cause them problems down there. That kills that power in numbers idea REAL quick..

            I get these people wanna escape. I pity them. That said AMERICA CANNOT AFFORD THEM.. Not our problem.

            • alex9234

              I heard that ISIS eventually might start forming alliances with the drug cartels in Mexico in order to get into America and start attacking the country…

              • Ryuken13

                Scary but possible. As long as it is win win they probably will be allies..

                “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”…

              • Think about it. The cartel makes about $2500 an illegal. ISIS would pay $20,000 per illegal. I’m sure the cartel would say no!

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          • Wroots

            Re “instead of running away, these people who want more, should stay in their homeland and demand/fight for a better country”. Well, maybe the US could help by not bombing their homelands to smithereens.

            Think of all the Mexicans who were displaced by being forced off their traditional lands, by US corn ethanol growers. What are people who have been cultivating their lands for hundreds of years supposed to do when they are pushed off it for a US corporation’s ethanol production?

            http://www.politicalresearch.org/2014/10/11/globalization-and-nafta-caused-migration-from-mexico/#sthash.LfCa0TKc.dpbs

        • alfie0077

          Know who the enemy is! Know who to not vote for.
          There is not one successful Catholic country on earth.
          Sanctuary means CATHOLIC.
          They are not ‘illegal immigrants’ they are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.

          Invasion, conquest, subjugation, elimination is the schedule. Look
          south of the USA for proof of the ‘elimination’. Be Catholic or be
          dead.

          Jeb is a Catholic traitor! YOU should work harder so Jeb
          can get more illegal alien Catholic invaders to come in. The illegal
          alien Catholic invaders get debit cards, and YOU are paying for them.
          WORK HARDER for the illegal alien Catholic invaders!

          A third of
          all politicians are Catholic traitors. Half call themselves r and half
          d. Do not take lightly the phrase ‘god before county’ this really
          means ‘Vatican before the USA’. This is treason.

          This is not a
          ‘racist’ nor a ‘bigot’ statement since the folks that have to be
          un-elected are by and large whyte, fat, mostly male CATHOLIC traitors
          in congress. Those that can be elected can also be un-elected and this
          is because they are not defending the borders as they took the oath
          of office to do. PLEASE PASS THIS ON, TRUMP NEEDS HELP.

          • We’ve been fighting for 10 years on our border and locally. The #lawmakers in Washington have turned their backs on America and Americans. Trump is promising!

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        • Wroots

          And of course the foster care system comes free of charge because babies look after themselves, don’t need to be fed, don’t need diapers or to be clothed, don’t need a roof over their heads, don’t need to go to the doctor’s, don’t need to eventually go into the school system… What a fiscally responsible solution you suggest!

      • 1MarianneD

        Thank you Texas Department of State Health Services for denying American born children of illegal immigrants citizenship.

        • alfie0077

          YOU have to do the right thing by calling it right, then you will not be in denial.
          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
          Know who the enemy really is.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

          • Karole Conaway

            The catholics are the least of the problems coming across the border.

            • alfie0077

              I see not the way you do.
              The only difference between Muslim and Catholic is the continent they destroy.
              So please explain, what is the bigger problem than the illegal alien Catholic invaders?
              No nation has survived the assault by the Vatican. One invaded, the nation is destroyed forever. For proof, look south and try to find a successful nation.

          • 1MarianneD

            You are correct alfie0077. Religious, catholic politicians in California just voted against our “Death with Dignity” efforts. They forced their religion on us–just like ISIS (Islamic State) does in the middle east.

            • Uknowsomuch

              Yea because isis is comparable to the Catholic Church. You’re a clown. You’d kill a catholic before an Islamic militant if you could. Death with dignity? I personally see no problem with it if that’s what you feel you need to do. But to make such extreme comparisons and place such great emphasis on whether someone is catholic shows where this country is headed. You’re filled with hatered.

              • alfie0077

                The only difference between Muslim and Catholic is the continent they destroy.

        • alfie0077

          YOU have to do the right thing by calling it right, then you will not be in denial.
          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
          Know who the enemy really is.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

      • Curley Howard

        How many times have you heard a white liberal demand that white Americans make sacrifices in the name of equality, now how many white liberals would be willing to give up their jobs in the name of racial equability, If liberals are really concerned about illegal aliens then they should be forced to donate 30 percent of their salaries or adopt children who come to our country without their parents, why should Americans who don’t agree with the liberal hypocrites have to pay in order to cleanse the soul of a liberal bigot, so the Texas Observer should show it’s commitment to the Hispanic community by firing 50 percent of it’s white employees and replacing them with minorities otherwise their no better than the Klan, in fact their worse.

        • dharmatrek

          Yawn….

          • #Liberals are the root of all evil. They talk about refer to Texas as underclass when we are the 12th financial power in the world.

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            • dharmatrek

              Ya, Ilsa Koch!.

            • alfie0077

              Your are looking in the wrong direction.
              Half the traitors call themselves r and half d. All of the below are traitors.
              YOU have to do the right thing by calling it right, then you will not be in denial.
              They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
              Know who the enemy really is.
              Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

              • Barbedwire

                Just FYI, the word “your, our, their” shows ownership. And here, you used it wrong. If any time you are intending to say: you are, they are, we are, I am, etc. and not spell it out, it should be “you’re”, and the apostrophe indicates a missing letter. I realize being an old educated, grammar was important; but come on!!

        • tessa Green

          The Mexican immigration issue is a red-herring to entertain simpleton americans and distract them from real immigration issues like H-1B visas which actually do take away well-paying jobs in droves from educated americans. These types of immigration schemes however benefit business and whether you all choose to accept it or not the Republican Party will protect it´s interest above all others. So keep arguing over non-issues while the real issues at hand continue to destroy the American workplace for able Americans.

          • American Employee Rights Act of 2016 might be the answer to stop what Tessa is talking about. She’s right about misdirection. Washington is good at it!

          • Barbedwire

            Our immigration problems are huge and complex. One step in the right direction, especially one that doesn’t involve a new law, it is a misinterpretation of the 14th amendment, that CAN BE fixed by our courts. You may think it is a small step; but progress is better than nothing, and as large as our problems….nothing can be totally resolved over night.

          • Frankdidit

            I have to agree with some of what you say. However, I believe Trump, a business man, will take care of this problem. By the way, remember when we the tax payers bailed out GMC, they repayed us by building 11 plants in China. I have heard that the Buick is completely made in China. So you GMC fans enjoy your chinese made vehicles. (I know this is true because I watched a video of the CEO of General Motors speaking to a group Chinese businessmen in China!!!!!!!

            And before someone reminds me about Ford building a billion dollar plant in Mexico, keep in mind we as tax payers did not bail out The Ford motor Co. Not that I am in favor of this being done!!!!!!

        • alfie0077

          Know who the enemy is, pass by the smoke screen.
          YOU have to do the right thing by calling it right, then you will not be in denial.
          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
          Know who the enemy really is.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

          • Andy

            quit repeating your self and leave the Catholics out of it
            and I am nott a catholic

            • 1MarianneD

              Andy, I live in California where the catholic politicians voted against our Death with ignity efforts. The catholic politicians are just like ISIS (Islamic State). They forced their religion on the non-catholics.

              • Uknowsomuch

                Then why don’t you just shoot yourself in the head instead of blaming the Catholics? Do they not have rope in California? Have you tried drinking windex? Leave the Catholic Church out of you’re own shortcomings as a functioning member of society

        • alfie0077

          Know who the enemy is, pass by the smoke screen.
          YOU have to do the right thing by calling it right, then you will not be in denial.
          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
          Know who the enemy really is.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

        • GR Arnold

          A lot of the minorities couldn’t even write in English, so what would be the point? I agree the liberals, white and all other colors, are the closet-communists of our nation and will cause another confederation to happen, and over BS like this.

        • alfie0077

          If you vote for any Catholic you are voting for a traitor.

      • Scott Charlton

        It never made sense to me to give the children of citizens of other nations, US citizenship. I spoke to Pete Sessions about this 20 years ago. He sited the 14 Amend as the foundation of anchor babies. I told him then that must change immediately. And here we are still dealing with criminals coming here to birth.

        • tessa Green

          Yes in fact it did. You see at one time everyone of european descent in the US was an illegal immigrant. Artificial structures of identity had to be created with the forming of the nation inorder to justify the taking of Native American soverigny in the United States. It was PURPOSELY DONE because it benefited those in power. So what of the pot, calling the kettle black? The Irish were once the white negroes and the Germans the scum and let us not even start with the mongrel italians, all tainting a pure British American heritage as everyone came to the United States in one wave or another of immigration. Oh how quickly we forget our humble roots, or rather choose not to admit to our pathetic beginnings.

          • GR Arnold

            Your’s is nowadays an invalid point. The descendants of the Irish immigrants largely don’t want illegals here anyways and once we won the Revolution all Americans either became citizens or enjoyed the right to stay her anyway, even of they did not yet have the right to vote.

        • What do we know

          Scott
          Latest statistic shows under 18 years Latinos are twice more then white in CA. So you right, we should have
          acted on stopping this illegal parent with anchor babies. Now, you have to experience how bad these kids are, they’re so demanding of their rights on every little issues and they all knows how to scam government with just about every things you can name it.

          • robert

            You forgot. Cali is bankrupt, full of mostly Libby’s and want to give away our Country to ALL THE ILLEGALS, including YOUR MONEY you work so hard for, after all, it gets them more votes.

            • alfie0077

              Yes CA is bankrupt. they are not ‘illegals’
              YOU have to do the right thing by calling it right, then you will not be in denial.
              They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
              Know who the enemy really is.
              Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

              • Andy

                I still say you are sick and full of hatetred

                • alfie0077

                  Nah, I have a religion, and it is the USA. I have a bible and it is the Constitution.

                  I just wish to defend my religion and Constitution. All other religions wish to destroy my religion, so I fight back.

          • alfie0077

            They are not ‘latinos’.
            YOU have to do the right thing by calling it right, then you will not be in denial.
            They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
            Know who the enemy really is.
            Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

        • alfie0077

          Call it then vote.

          YOU have to do the right thing by calling it right, then you will not be in denial.
          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
          Know who the enemy really is.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

      • Better earth

        Illegals are taking advantage of free birth and U.S. Citizenship. These are the reasons why USA should not grant U.S. citizenship to this people. If USA start doing this they would stopped coming and giving birth here. Go TEXANS. al states should follow you.

        • What do we know

          Exactly, they come here for one purpose ” to have anchor babies, then their life is guaranteed with every right”

        • tessa Green

          Europeans took advantage of free births to repopulate the United States after the Native American genocide. I don´t hear you all complaining about that injustice. Hypocritical much?

          • robert

            Well Tessa green , I think we should take all of your money, take away your house for them to live in, and take at least half of your food to give to all of the illegals!

          • Bob Lahblaw

            Yes Tessa, it I s hypocritical, isn’t it? The right of a culture to preserve itself TRUMPS any concern over hypocrisy, no pun intended.

          • Bob Lahblaw

            Yes Tessa, it is somewhat hypocritical, isn’t it? The right of a culture to preserve itself, however, TRUMPS any concern over hypocrisy, no pun intended.

          • Tessa go stand in the corner. You’re anti-American. Maybe we can wash it off!

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          • Uknowsomuch

            You’re right, in a sense. The difference between now and then is that we have a much more highly structured government in addition to highly complex foreign relations. Looking back in time, things weren’t as clear cut and organized. When the British colonized America, they weren’t planning to wipe out the Indians or even expecting to find the piece of land that they did . Things were more fluid. In the present age, the issue of illegal immigration impacts millions. We have not only mexican immigrants to worry about, but terrorists who want to wage jihad on the country. Illegals also live here for free (don’t pay taxes) and generally mooch off of whatever gov assistance they can. That assistance costs money usually by way of tax dollars paid for by the middle and upper classes. If you’re the one paying for these services that go to people who are here illegally and don’t pay taxes themselves, you can better understand the frustration felt by those who do. During Americas inception, these issues didn’t exist so to compare the two issues and their respective time periods would be unfair.

        • alfie0077

          YOU must stop being in denial. STOP!
          YOU have to do the right thing by calling it right, then you will not be in denial.
          They are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders.
          Know who the enemy really is.
          Vote for ANY Catholic and you are voting for a traitor.

      • ethan

        This is how hispanics are becoming the majority race in this country, America… they’re literally a baby manufacturing machine. Females young and old, pumping out 4, 5 anchor babies, you do the math.

        • alfie0077

          Sanctuary is CATHOLIC The illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders go there.
          You have to vote to get a change. Trump is one of the few non-Catholic folks.
          Know who the enemy is before shooting.
          In Greece they are called Muslims . . In he USA they are called Catholics.
          I have some questions. Is there a country south of the USA that is a success?

          Is there a country south of the USA that is not Catholic? Is there a successful Catholic nation? NO.

          Now we have had a third of all politicians in office for the past 40
          years are Catholic. Half call themselves r and half d. All are
          traitors. The phrase ‘god before country’ really should be taken
          seriously The real meaning of it is ‘ Vatican before the USA’ This is
          treason .

          Is the USA doing better now that a controlling bloc in the USA is
          Catholic? The traitors are a bunch of whyte, fat, mostly males that
          read the Catholic bi-babble rather than defend the Constitution. The
          ‘race’ card is invalid!

          Vote every Catholic out, vote Trump in, secure the borders, and save
          the Constitution.

          This is not ‘bigotry’ nor ‘racism’ since almost all that have to be
          voted out are old, whyte, mostly male CATHOLIC traitors. If they can
          be elected, then they can be un-elected!. The reason for the
          un-electing them is that they fail to defend the borders, which is a
          requirement as stated in the Constitution and they fail to do their
          job. This is treason, and reason for getting rid of them. .

          Please pass this on.

          • AJ

            Successful Catholic Countries:

            Switzerland, Austria, and Liechtenstein just to name a few. And although a few others are having issues due to their Muslim populations they are still First World: France, Italy, and Spain are also Catholic countries. The issue is not a Catholic thing, it is a Liberal Democrat thing. I am a Catholic Republican, as are most of the people I know.

            • alfie0077

              Switzerland has a constitution which is not ‘religious’ Same with Austria. Liech. is just a large village. It is also landlocked so has no one that wants to invade. If it is so nice, go there! They will welcome you with open arms since you are Catholic. Hey, go south of the USA and find one for me. Right next to Liech. is a place called Italy. Tell me all about that success. You know it is one of the PIIGS. For a while I thought that Greece was going to drop out and then there would only be the bankrupt Catholic PIIS.

            • alfie0077

              Why not try being an AMERICAN? Being an AINO is not good. Treason, you know is not a nice word!. Catholics have ‘god before country’ which really means ‘Vatican before the USA’ this is TREASON. Shuck off the dogma, and become an AMERICAN!

        • robert

          Agreed

      • ltbrown

        An Anchor Baby is a child born on US soil of illegal immigrant parents which the perverted law say they cannot deport the parents as the child is not of age, 18, and thus the illegal parents are not deported as their off spring is a defacto US citizen. According to our Constitution the Democrat created law is not legal and binding as it is not consistent with the Constitution. The first perversion of the Constitution by a President (John Kennedy) using the office of the president to circumvent Congress and create law without the Constitutional authority to do so.
        Kill the law or its so called interpretation as law and the much of our problems generated by the “anchor baby” phenomenon will go away and so will a great deal of government funds be saved and the enticement to come to do just this pursuit will cease.

        • alfie0077

          Vote for ANY CATHOLIC and you are helping the illegal alien Catholic invasion.

          Sanctuary is CATHOLIC The illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders go there.

          You have to vote to get a change. Trump is one of the few
          non-Catholic folks.

          Know who the enemy is before shooting.

          In Greece they are called Muslims . . In he USA they are called
          Catholics.

          I have some questions. Is there a country south of the USA that is a
          success?

          Is there a country south of the USA that is not Catholic?

          Now we have had a third of all politicians in office for the past 40
          years are Catholic. Half call themselves r and half d. All are
          traitors. The phrase ‘god before country’ really should be taken
          seriously The real meaning of it is ‘ Vatican before the USA’ This is
          treason .

          Is the USA doing better now that a controlling bloc in the USA is
          Catholic? The traitors are a bunch of whyte, fat, mostly males that
          read the Catholic bi-babble rather than defend the Constitution. The
          ‘race’ card is invalid!

          Vote every Catholic out, vote Trump in, secure the borders, and save
          the Constitution.

          This is not ‘bigotry’ nor ‘racism’ since almost all that have to be
          voted out are old, whyte, mostly male CATHOLIC traitors. If they can
          be elected, then they can be un-elected!. The reason for the
          un-electing them is that they fail to defend the borders, which is a
          requirement as stated in the Constitution and they fail to do their
          job. This is treason, and reason for getting rid of them. .

          Please pass this on.

        • robert

          Libby’s won’t do that, but yes it would stop allot.

        • Frankdidit

          In case people are not aware of the cost to the American tax payer, let me inform you. The stated annual cost for illegal’s in this Country now stands at 115 Billion dollars. Want to save money, build the wall and allow the Border Patrol to do their job!!!

          Also there are 351 thousand criminals in jail in our Country right now. The average cost per inmate per day is $60.00. You do the math. Deport them now.

          • Andy

            better yet shoot them–and it is cheaper

      • TruthToBeTold

        The Post & Email News: “LET ME BE CLEAR, THERE IS NO ANCHOR BABY LAW!…

        To be a 14TH Amendment ” citizen ” one must not only have been born on U.S. soil but also of been a ” SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF ” at the time of birth as written within the 14Th Amendment of The United States Constitution

        14TH Amendment U.S. Constitution Section 1:

        “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

        ” Subject to the Jurisdiction thereof ” means NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANYBODY ELSE.

        This fact is within the Congressional Record and cannot be disputed.
        United States Senate in 1866 Sen. Lyman Trumbull (IL):”The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof?’ Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.”

        United States Senate 1866 Sen Jacob M. Howard (MI):

        ” This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States…

        This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are FOREIGNERS, ALIENS, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States.”

        Under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes: “All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”

        Thomas Jefferson said “Aliens are the subjects of a foreign power.”

        Most people have not even heard of HR 140. The U.S. Congress has stooped so low since the Founding Fathers of this great striving nation that they have to write a Bill to uphold the 14Th Amendment of the United States Constitution. This Law Already EXISTS!

        40 States are now fighting to get back to the Constitution and end the birth right citizenship indoctrinated lie.

        The U.S. Supreme Court has never granted U.S. citizenship to illegal aliens children born on U.S. soil. Domicile foreigners on U.S. soil are NOT THE SAME as illegal aliens. “

        • alfie0077

          Hooray for you, I did copy it, will repost when appropriate! Thanks!

          Vote for ANY CATHOLIC and you are helping the illegal alien Catholic invasion.

          Sanctuary is CATHOLIC The illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders go there.

          You have to vote to get a change. Trump is one of the few non-Catholic folks.

          Know who the enemy is before shooting.

          In Greece they are called Muslims . . In he USA they are called
          Catholics.

          I have some questions. Is there a country south of the USA that is a
          success?

          Is there a country south of the USA that is not Catholic?

          Now we have had a third of all politicians in office for the past 40
          years are Catholic. Half call themselves r and half d. All are
          traitors. The phrase ‘god before country’ really should be taken
          seriously The real meaning of it is ‘ Vatican before the USA’ This is
          treason .

          Is the USA doing better now that a controlling bloc in the USA is
          Catholic? The traitors are a bunch of whyte, fat, mostly males that
          read the Catholic bi-babble rather than defend the Constitution. The
          ‘race’ card is invalid!

          Vote every Catholic out, vote Trump in, secure the borders, and save
          the Constitution.

          This is not ‘bigotry’ nor ‘racism’ since almost all that have to be
          voted out are old, whyte, mostly male CATHOLIC traitors. If they can
          be elected, then they can be un-elected!. The reason for the
          un-electing them is that they fail to defend the borders, which is a
          requirement as stated in the Constitution and they fail to do their
          job. This is treason, and reason for getting rid of them. .

          Please pass this on.

          • lechuguita

            How old are you? Anti-Catholicism died with the election of Kennedy. If you are on some kind of medication you need to take it now or change it. You still believe we are in the 1960’s.

            • alfie0077

              Nah, Teddy the traitor brought it back up in about 1976 when he promised ‘hey let these ten million in and never again, forever and I will make the legislation to prevent any more of the illegal alien Catholic invaders into the USA’. Catholics lie, and especially do treason.

          • Andy

            I have NEVER seen so much hatrad for Catholics than you have for them

        • What do we know

          Thank you, I did copy it too, will repost when appropriate !

        • easton

          keep banging your head against that wall, it has done so much good already. it is you who are lying. it says nothing in the Constitution preventing children of illegal aliens from becoming citizens. You can’t invent words that are not there.

        • lechuguita

          You are wrong: it does not mean “Not owing allegiance to anybody else..”

          First: In the Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. (1873) — a civil rights case not dealing specifically with birthright citizenship — a majority of the Supreme Court mentioned in passing that “the phrase ‘subject to its jurisdiction’ was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States

          Second: IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD…baby cannot plege allegiances. So the allegiance of a baby cannot be determined. So your whole entire rant is moot.

          • TruthToBeTold

            Hahaha tell me another one you ignorant fool.

            LOL!!!!!!!

            • lechuguita

              Call me all the names you like, it does not prove me wrong. The only one who is proving not able to understand the intent of the law is you. The 1873 RULING WAS THE FIRST SCOTUS decision in interpreting this law which was had passed just 3 YEARS AGO. DO THE MATH AND TRIED TO GET SOME COMMON SENSE. If SCOTUS was wrong in its interpretation of “SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF which I told you it means children of ministers and consuls of foreign countries. Then it makes sense that the congress who JUST RECENTLY CREATED IT would have amended it…BUT THEY DID NOT YOU ELFIN MORON AND THEY LET IT STAND AS SUCH. In fact the following ruling done in 1898, which further clarified this concept the CONGRESS LET IT STAND AGAIN AS SUCH…in other words the law meant everybody born in the US except those who families are subjected to a foreign power meaning they REPRESENT A FOREIGN POWER.

              In fact the Dred Scott decision PROVES I AM RIGHT…the 14th amendment was created with the intent to override/nullified this SCOTUS decision. So this means that if the SCOTUS OF 100 YEARS ago were wrong in it interpretation of the 14th amendment in both rulings then congress has proven it has no problem making amendments to correct this..BUT THE FACT IS THEY DID NOT meaning they support the interpretation of the Supreme Court.

              I agree with you that the 14th amendment will be upheld which will mean that Texas will be ordered to give then their birth certificate.

              • TruthToBeTold

                You and your “opinion” are not withstanding to the facts.

                Not even a good try. Quite pathetic.

            • Andy

              God you must be a lawyer
              a flustrated actor
              LOL

            • alfie0077

              The SCOTUS is now an arm of the Vatican since it is now 6/9 hard core Catholic. Several recent decisions back up my point. For the SCOTUS to do the right thing may be difficult. very difficult.

      • cat2009

        If you give the kid citizenship the parent automatically thinks they qualify for benefits. And I have seen them with the Lone Star card buying food baby products so they aren’t supposed to qualify y for benefits some how they do.

      • bellpilot

        oh my – illegals pumping out kids in US so they somehow get a piece of the action
        sorry chica –

      • The Anti-Statist

        Love those Texans. They’ve got balls.

        • catsrock

          yeah but no brains. Refusing to issue a birth certificate is illegal.

          • ethan

            actually that’s a lot of brains catsrock. Speaking of illegal……

          • The Anti-Statist

            Standing up to tyranny always takes brains and courage.

            • catsrock

              Tyranny,
              Exactly how is some petty county clerk in some resume speed county in nowhere Texas standing up to tyranny by refusing to issue birth certificates to people born in this country.
              County clerks do not get to determine who gets to be a citizen and who does not. County clerks do not get to usurp the authority of the federal government just because they feel like it. County clerks do not get to discriminate people or prevent them from legally accessing county services.
              That county clerk is abusing the power of that position to bully people. It takes neither brains nor courage to bully people

              • The Anti-Statist

                That’s odd, you seem to have no problem with the fascist Oligarchs on SCOTUS issuing unconstitutional edicts bullying the American people, you hypocrite!

              • Which liberals don’t have..

                • catsrock

                  You didn’t answer the question nor did you address the issue. County clerks do not have the authority to do what this one did. Which is to nullify state and federal law. A whole slew of them.

          • Simpleton! It’s a legal maneuver. Should’ve been done a long time ago!

            • catsrock

              Shannon,
              It is not a legal maneuver and county clerks don’t get to decide who is a citizen and who is not.

              • I’ll make it as simple as I can for you. It’s a legal maneuver. They had to create standing. Does the state have standing? NO. Does the illegal anchor baby wannabe MOM have standing? YES So the illegal alien Mom can except the denial or file a lawsuit. It’s what Texas wants! It’s what I want! It’s what true Americans want!

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        • tessa Green

          Texans have balls because they´ve gone and done something illegal? Illegal immigrants are also doing something illegal so then they must also have balls and it must not be so bad. Otherwise, ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL. It DOESN´T MATTER IF YOU´RE A CITIZEN OR NOT, AN INDIVIDUAL OR A STATE OR AN INSTITUTION. May all the mighty power of this great country come down on Texas for not honouring our founding documents.

          • Ryuken13

            Actually, Texans have balls because they are not hiding behind poorly written laws and are looking for SOLUTIONS.. You certainly are right.. Illegal is illegal.. No exceptions.. How about honoring the 14th in sprit and deporting the parents?? The kids can go into a foster home and illegal is illegal correct??

            • easton

              yeesh, they deport the ENTIRE family, the kids go with the parents, they have the right to return when they are older, that is the difference. Why in the world would you take kids away from their parents and put them in foster care? That is nuts. you would end up having a bunch of damaged kids

          • The Anti-Statist

            First of all, Illegal is not always illegal. It is not legal for SCOTUS to legislate from the bench. That is tyranny; therefore any so-called “law” resulting from their illegal edicts is not a legal law and is null and void. Standing up to tyranny and an invasion from another country faciltated traitors in D.C. is very legal and very courageous, necessitating gargantuan balls..

            “Whensoever” the federal government “assumes un-delegated powers,” that a “nullification of the act is the rightful remedy.”
            ~~Thomas Jefferson

            • lechuguita

              Oh please, reread the constitution and stop posting ignorance.

              As for Thomas Jefferson..you are misunderstanding the whole principal, concept and meaning. What Thomas Jefferson was speaking is of the balance of powers between the 3 branches of government and how it will be remedied if one branch tries to get too powerful.

              SCOTUS does not legislate it interprets the constitution created by our congress and its decisions are binding. Their authority was granted in Article 3 of the US constitution and The Constitution grants the Supreme Court original jurisdiction in cases in which states are a party and those involving diplomats, but leaves for Congress to determine the size and responsibilities of the Court that is the capstone of the federal judiciary.

              Interpreting the constitution is the DELEGATED POWER OF THE SUPREME COURT..just because you do not agree with it does not mean that they are being tyrannical or overstepping. In addition NO SUPREME COURT DECISION says that the congress or the President cannot make an act nullification of a decision.

              In fact you moron, the 14th amendment was actually an act that did nullified a Supreme Court decision the infamous Dred Vs Scott decision.

              • The Anti-Statist

                Oh, please, Moron, reread the constitution and stop posting your ignorance-driven twaddle. I bet you’ve never even read the Federalist Papers.

                You whole argument is based on conflating interpretation with re-writing and legislating. As proof of your “useful idiot” reasoning, please cite for me the part of the constitution that allows, in contradiction to the 10th Amendment, the Supreme court to legislate the redefining of marriage let alone re-writing the 14th Amendment in contradiction to the intent of those who passed the legislation. You can’t! The best you can do is cite previous SCOTUS tyrannical edicts that they use as precedent to support more of their tyrannical edicts. That is analogous to saying, “The tyrants said it isn’t tyranny so it isn’t tyranny”.

          • You still don’t get. Texas is creating a challenge to the 14th amendment. This is how it’s done. You keep it up and you’re going into “Time Out”!

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      • The Anti-Statist

        Love those Texans. They’ve got balls.

      • whooosh

        I’m glad to see Texas doing something (although small) against immigration. Immigration is out of control and we need to stop making these people feel welcomed.

      • whooosh

        I’m glad to see Texas doing something (although small) against immigration. Immigration is out of control and we need to stop making these people feel welcomed.

        • alfie0077

          This will force the SCOTUS to take action. I do not have high hopes since the SCOTUS is now 6/9 hard core Catholic. The SCOTUS has made several decisions lately which clearly are in favour of the Vatican.

      • Mysteriously Unnamed

        As openly racist as the architects of the 14th Amendment were, I doubt that they intended the 14th Amendment to include illegal aliens children being born here.

        • catsrock

          In 1868 there were no illegal aliens. I sincerely doubt the thought of excluding natural born citizens based on their parents’ country of origin ever crossed their minds. Not for a nano second.
          A hint as to what they might have thought, had the thought ever occurred to them, is in Article III Section 3: “no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attained”. In other words, in this country, people pay for their own misdeeds, not the misdeeds of their relatives. Born in this country makes one a citizen of this country. End of discussion.

          • Brock Henderson

            The commentary and narrative of Michigan Sen. Jacob Howard, the architect of the proposed 14th Amendment, about his proposed amendment, proves that your assertions are incorrect. Know what you are talking about before you embarrass yourself.

          • Brock Henderson

            The commentary and narrative of Michigan Sen. Jacob Howard, the architect of the proposed 14th Amendment, about his proposed amendment, proves that your assertions are incorrect. Know what you are talking about before you embarrass yourself.

            • lechuguita

              Brock the only one embarrassing one is you and your lack of understanding of this law. Sen. Jacob Howard was talking about children of ambassadors not children of illegals.

              • Brock Henderson

                Sweetheart, if you think you can deceive people with such sophistry and specious reasoning, you are sorely mistaken. Anybody with a decent education in American history knows that the GOP of the 1860’s was under the spell of a powerful wave of nativism. Ergo, anybody who says that they were actually okay with the children of border invaders receiving citizenship is lying, to himself and to others. You’re not fooling anyone, so move on.

                • lechuguita

                  If my arguments are sophistry and specious prove it..just because you refuse to see the truth and reasons does not mean they are false.

                  Nativisim has always existed in the United States, yet in spite of this the United States

                  is still not defined by color, language or religion it defined by its constitution which PURPOSELY WAS CREATED TO BE anti-nativisim.

                  So whatever spell the GOP was under in 1860 it did nothing to change the constitution or the 14th amendment to EXCLUDE children born from illegals. THOSE ARE THE FACTS.

                  The only ones who are fooling themselves are the people like you that are defending this terrible law.

                  • Brock Henderson

                    Now that we need to take a few minutes to let the raucous laughter at your silliness die down, let me ask you, in earnest: are you not aware that citizenship was restricted to white people according to the Naturalization Act of 1790? Are you really trying to advance the argument that somehow – SOMEHOW! – we can assume that a nativist GOP that stated explicitly that the 14th Amendment did not apply to foreigners actually DID want to include foreigners who were born to border-invaders? My dear, I don’t need to prove your sophistry. If the above is your argument, you are flaunting your sophistry and intellectual dishonesty without any needed help from me. You’re not fooling anybody with such a deliberate and shameless lie, honey. Oh, and sweetheart, you need to understand that America is not a proposition nation because there is no such thing as a proposition nation.

              • Brock Henderson

                It must be hard to just keep lying to yourself in order to enable yourself to lie to others. A Republican from the 1860’s, under a wave of nativism, meant to allow the offspring of people who invade American borders to acquire citizenship, despite his own words on the matter . . . that is what you’re to trying to convince me and others of, right? Who do you think you are fooling? It isn’t going to work, sugar.

        • tessa Green

          Yes they in fact did because you see at the time everyone of european descent in the US was an illegal immigrant. Artificial structures of identity had to be created with the forming of the nation inorder to justify the taking of Native American soverigny in the United States. It was PURPOSELY DONE. So what of the pot, calling the kettle black? The Irish were the white negroes and the Germans the scum of Europe tainting a pure British American descent. Oh how quickly we forget our humble roots, or rather choose not to admit to our pathetic beginnings.

          • Brock Henderson

            “Yes they in fact did . . . ” Sen. Jacob Howard, the architect of the proposed 14th Amendment, stated the exact opposite about his proposed amendment. Know what you are talking about before you embarrass yourself by spouting nonsense.

            • lechuguita

              Really PROVE IT..please post the exact words by the senator that refutes what Tessa Green said.

              What I have found is that he wanted to exclude from CITIZENSHIP not birth CERTIFICATE children who are born of families of ambassadors or foreign ministers.

              Jacob Howard quote “The 14th amendment will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States, but will include EVERY OTHER CLASS OF PERSON”

              Drop mic.

              • Brock Henderson

                “What I have found . . .”

                Do you know that if you look hard enough, desperately wanting to believe something that you know isn’t true, you can “find” a giant mound of bullshit? Hope you enjoy your “findings,” dearheart.

          • Brock Henderson

            “Yes they in fact did . . . ” Sen. Jacob Howard, the architect of the proposed 14th Amendment, stated the exact opposite about his proposed amendment. Know what you are talking about before you embarrass yourself by spouting nonsense.

      • Mysteriously Unnamed

        United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court ruled that practically everyone born in the United States is a U.S. citizen. This decision established an important precedent in its interpretation of the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.

        A 2010 review of the history of the Citizenship Clause notes that the Wong Kim Ark decision held that the guarantee of birthright citizenship “applies to children of foreigners present on American soil” and states that the Supreme Court “has not re-examined this issue since the concept of ‘illegal alien’ entered the language”.
        In other words Wong Kim Ark’s parents were in the USA “legally” when he was born.

        • The Anti-Statist

          Thus saith a tyrannical court contrary to the original intent of the 14th Amendment. Just another brush stroke in the painting of fascist tyranny that the sheeple in this country have obediently accepted.

        • The Anti-Statist

          Thus saith a tyrannical court contrary to the original intent of the 14th Amendment. Just another brush stroke in the painting of fascist tyranny that the sheeple in this country have obediently accepted.

        • catsrock

          Nysteriously,
          Wong Kim Ark’s parents, because they were Chinese, were in this country illegally as per Chinese Exclusion Act 1882. The ruling is important because it made clear that being born in this country makes one a citizen regardless of the status or country of origin of one’s parents. The single exception is foreign diplomatic staff attached to a foreign embassy or consulate.

      • Jjj1965

        The birthright is the illegals anchor baby welfare meal ticket……newly born poor “American” and all.
        Just one of the government carrots inviting the invasion from the south.

        • Angel Garcia

          Like you white devils did to the Natives?? you freaking hypocrites! If they are born here,THEY ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS,it says so in the CONSTITUTION,you freaking MORON!
          Like the invasion from Europe??

          • Brock Henderson

            Angel, sweetheart, try not to hyperventilate and spout silly nonsense at the same time. Makes you look completely unhinged. One or the other at a time from now on, not both simultaneously.

          • wildemanne

            Jjj1965 heads between the great white mounds or maybe his mounds are foreign??? probably wears pants with front & x large rear zipper so his head fits! like his simplistic commie thinking? if he has that ability? naw

      • This is a good thing. Many have complained they’re being separated from their families. Well now, they can all be deported back together. Well done, Texas!

        • Mary Sekera

          Yes, exactly! That’s the way I feel!

      • Texas is fighting back. They do it on purpose, cross the border just to have a child on US soil. That way, said child is an American citizen. Once they have a citzen in their family they apply for welfare. The illegal immigrant may not be eligible, but their child who is now a citzen is. They get cash assistance, food stamps and medical for their child because they are illegal and not able to get a job. Then they have another, and another, until all they have to do is sit on their butts and spit out kids. I know, I’ve seen it first hand. Members of my ex-husbands family still live that way and their oldest child is 17.

        • Jjj1965

          And the more anchors more money.

      • Francisco

        This is great to hear! Now the other 49 states seriously need to follow suit. The following reasons why the United States is a dump. 1) Foreigners and immigrants out number American born citizens (Asians are the largest population in the U.S.). And news flash, there are just as many illegal Asians as there are Mexicans!
        2) The political, judicial, and law enforcements are corrupted. 3) hatred, bigotry, discrimination, and racism is apparent. 4) Everything is China made making those items worthless. 5) Most of all, most American jobs have moved to China. Leaders of this country are not doing anything to make this country better, they’re all about winning elections.

      • Jim P.

        I’m well into my 50s and thought I had a pretty good idea of how bad the level of hatred and prejudice is in my country. After reading pages and pages and pages of responses I realize how wrong I am. The hatred and prejudice I read astounds me. And so many people call themselves Christians. None of that “love thy neighbor” stuff here! Forget the parable about the good Samaritan. Forget that we’re talking about children who have no say in who their parents are and where they were born. Yeah, we were all born here. Our parents were born here. So what? We had nothing to do with it. When these newborn Americans grow up, I hope they learn about this and keep it in the back of their minds. It will be an important lesson for them.

        • Frankdidit

          And the fact that illegal’s in this Country are costing the American tax payer 115 billion dollars a year does not affect your opinion? Perhaps you have no idea what a billion dollars equates to: If you were paid 1 dollar a second from the time you were born until you reach the age of 70, you would not have spent a billion dollars. Get the point? Awarding people who break our laws by jumping the border just sotheir kids can become American citizens has nothing to do with CHRISTIANITY!!!!!!!!!! Wake up and get a grip

          • Angel Garcia

            If they are born here,they are NOT illegal,you freaking MORON!

            • Frankdidit

              I see I woke you up! Hop the fence did we? This is exactly the reason we should not allow children born to illegal’s American citizenship. Get the point dip sh-t.

            • Deport all the illegal law breaking criminal aliens!

            • Deport all the illegal law breaking criminal aliens!

            • Ryuken13

              However, the parents are genius.. Deport the parents (kids stay) so people quit exploiting this flaw in our laws.

              • Operation Wet-back was a 1954 project of the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) to remove about four million illegal immigrants from the southwestern United States, with a focus on Mexican nationals.

                History

                Burgeoning numbers of illegal aliens prompted President Dwight D. Eisenhower to appoint his longtime friend, General Joseph Swing, as INS Commissioner. According to Attorney General Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration immediately upon taking office. In a letter to Sen. William Fulbright, Eisenhower quoted a report in The New York Times that said: “The rise in illegal border-crossing by Mexican ‘wet-backs'(rooted from the watery route taken by the Mexican immigrants across the Rio Grande) to a current rate of more than 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal Government.”[1]

                Eisenhower became increasingly concerned that profits from illegal labor led to corruption. The operation was modeled after the deportation program that invited American citizens of Mexican ancestry to go back to Mexico during the Great Depression because of the bad economy north of the border.

                Operation

                The operation began in California and Arizona and coordinated 1,075 Border Patrol agents along with state and local police agencies to mount an aggressive crackdown, going as far as police sweeps of Mexican-American neighborhoods and random stops and ID checks of “Mexican-looking” people in a region with many Native Americans and native Hispanics.[2] 750 agents targeted agricultural areas with a goal of 1000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Around 488,000 people fled the country for fear of being apprehended. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and the INS estimates that 500,000-700,000 people had left Texas voluntarily. To discourage re-entry, buses and trains took many people deep within Mexico before being set free. Tens of thousands more were put aboard two hired ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried them from Port Isabel, Texas, to Veracruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles (800 kilometers) south. Some went as far as 1,000 miles.

                Operation Wet-back deported more than 130,000 Mexican nationals in the space of almost a year, although local INS officials claimed that an additional 1 million to 1.2 million had fled to Mexico. The INS estimates rested on the claim that most illegal immigrants, fearing apprehension by the government, had voluntarily repatriated themselves before and during the initiative. Proponents of increased deportations point to a multiplying effect, where each individual deported resulted in roughly nine voluntarily returning to their home country. Still unknown is how many native-born Mexicans and even American Indians were deported by the operation. The operation is still largely unknown to the American public, as it is rarely taught in public schools today.

                We can do it again. #DeportThemNow – illegal law breaking criminal aliens!

            • Bob Lahblaw

              And that’s exactly what people on this thread are complaining about. The constitution needs to be amended in such a way that the babies born to people illegally in the U.S. will no longer be U.S. citizens.

        • bellpilot

          habla espanol – them anchor babies need to be deported with the mommies and daddies., oops no daddies

        • Bob Lahblaw

          You can love your neighbor, but still strictly control immigration. Loving your neighbor does not mean that you should allow your neighbor to take over part of your house and sponge off of you.

      • Greg

        If you do not like the 14th Amendment then repeal it not violate it. You certainly cry enough if you think someone else is violating the constitution. Waaaaaaa.

        • bellpilot

          sounds good so what part of the law allows illegal to jump the fence and be giving all those bennies
          what a moron

      • Greg

        How can Texas or anyone that supports them say with a straight face that Obama violates the Constitution.

        Texas is violating the constitution big time. Seems they just want things their way not the Constitutional way. The 14th Amendment says that anyone born here is a citizen of the United States and of the states in which they live. Notice that they are US citizens first. All Texas can do is deny state citizenship not US citizenship. It would seem the the Feds could issue the Birth Certificate.

        • Frankdidit

          Really, and what rock do someone kick over and you finally came out into the light!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you live in a cave? Or did you just wake up? Obummers immigrant policy is in fact an action he is not allowed to institute. This has to be accomplished by Congress! This is according to the Constitution. Where did it say in the Constitution that Obummer can release prisoners from Getmo with out the consent of Congress. It doesn’t. Where does he get the authority to trade a violent terrorist for a trader, again with out the approval of Congress? Perhaps you need to get a history lesson before you make any more stupid statements. Ya think?

          • Greg

            Frankdidit, Which Article, section and paragraph of the Constitution are you referring to? I have my copy of the Constitution in front of me and i would like to look it up.

            What is an Obummer? Seems your name calling is indicative of a person that is challenged reading comic books.

      • dreemnboutit

        Hooray Texas for being one state in this country willing to stand against the current regime’s tyranny. These women and these illegal immigrant acrivists groups are simply angry that they can’t get on Obama’s welfare system using their babies as their new paycheck. They have no interest in being Americans, just taking from us. How long can this go on in America and not be addressed?? Why won’t the federal government do it’s job, and why won’t Congress eliminate the 14th Amendment which is no longer needed and is now ruining our country??

      • Zachary Goldberg

        There should be NO SUCH THING as birthright citizenship. Become citizens the legal way then there wouldn’t be this legal confusion with children.

      • j fern

        Great news. The 14th amendment must be revisited with respect to the 5 to 4 decision in Plyler v. Doe.

        A Guatemalan national who illegally enters the US is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
        She is subject to her nation of origin.
        For example, if a mexican national crosses the border illegally, and then absconds back to mexico to evade arrest, the Mexican govt will not extradite said national if said national would be subject to the death penalty. Clearly the said national is subject to the jurisdiction of his country of origin.

        Where is the due process and equal protection for those US Citizens murdered by foreign nationals illegally in the country?

      • Andy

        shoot them sneaking in to OUR country
        PROBLEM SOLVED
        If they want a better life then change their own country NOT OURS and that is what they are doing. Welcome to the new Mexico the old USA

        • Barbara Dianne Hooper Kraatz

          Agree. For years, I have said that we (the US) should build a large wall…like the Great Wall of China…on the Mexican-American border. Make it very tall, wide, and strong…so no one an climb over it. Sink it deep in American soil…so no one can tunnel under it, Mark the actual borderline well. Put the wall a few yards on our (the US) side. Whenever anyone walks onto American soil without proper paperwork…shoot them and let their dead bodies serve as a warning to the others that will try. ‘Beware…enter at official check points or this will be you’.

          • Bob Lahblaw

            And if the Mexican government tries anything we should familiarize them with these four words: multiple launch rocket systems.

          • Finish the fence. It works! The liberals will tell you it doesn’t but it’s bullshit! There are a lot of happy landowners on the north side of the fence!

          • Andy

            Gee Barb you are a blood thursty as I am. I am sick and tired of haveing them live off of us. We even have them here in Oregonm My wife is portuguse and went through the system and it is so easy BUT you have to start legaly first and cheap for what you get

      • 5topAmnesty

        Seems REASONABLE – if you want your kid to be legal, then come here LEGALLY. Is it that hard to understand, or do I need to translate?

        Parece razonable – si usted desea que su hijo sea legal, luego vienen aquí legalmente. ¿Es tan difícil de entender, o qué tengo que traducir?

      • Raymond Acuna

        This is an UNETHICAL writer, obfuscating the issue.
        Are we talking about children of IMMIGRANTS, or ILLEGAL ALIENS?
        Because the two terms are not identical: IMMIGRANTS went through a LEGAL PROCESS, and have right to libe in this country.
        Otherwise, US immigration law was NOT designed to grant citizenship status to individuals ILLEGALLY in the US.

        • bellpilot

          children of illegal aliens are what we are talking about

      • If Colorado and Oregon can ignore the fact that pot is still federally illegal, maybe there is hope for Texas losing the birth certificate applications. The illegals will have to swim a bit farther north before they drop the anchor and hope to get papers to prove they are somehow allowed to stay.

        This could be a rebellion for other states to follow. It might make the abortion issue look like a small disagreement….

      • Gaven

        Good.

      • John Sadders

        Aliens ,white or not have had to apply for citizenship as soon as an immigration system was set up by the U.S. government……Talking of whites coming here before there was a national government or much law enforcement is just grasping at straws to discredit stopping the U.S. from becoming one massive welfare state being overrun by 50 million poor parasites and job stealing scabs that work cheap……

      • D.B. Cooper

        Meanwhile, Mexico can legally require female job applicants to submit recent photographs with their resumes. Before you criticize what we do in Texas, take a look at your own backyard. That includes those of you in New York and California.

      • Ron

        Fantastic news!!!!!

      • dohmi

        these chlren are the resposibilty of the country from which their parents come. We owe them nothing & the constitution states that clearly

        • Cees & Bees

          America doesn’t owe you u the right to make these type of decision since u also came from a different country. – Natives

          • Diane Brenner

            What you don’t seem to realize, Cees, is that ever since man came onto this planet, it became an unwritten understanding that your land is your land until someone else conquers you in a battle. Then it becomes their land. Not the nicest way to acquire property, but hey, that’s how man did it. The day we won our independence from Britain, every person (excluding the Indians) became a legal citizen of this country. Those who came later as later immigrants, became citizens by whatever method was in use at the time. Therefore, since LEGAL immigrants became citizens, or filed for citizenship, their children were automatically citizens. As this country became more and more populated, it became necessary to be tighter on immigration, allowing just so many in at a time. Illegals are simply criminals who should be treated as such and either arrested or deported, including any kids born while they were here.

          • Mysteriously Unnamed

            Hey “Native,” what country did you come from before there was any people on this continent? Maybe, Asia?

            • bellpilot

              actually Africa via mongolia through the Bering Strait

          • bellpilot

            and so them redskins came from somewhere else – hmmm i believe africa is the name

        • Andy

          I agree but tell them that and see if they listen. They will just laugh in your face

      • John Sadders

        Another law that should be changed…..Why on earth would Americans want to give free citizenship to Aliens who happen to be on U.S. territory when they have a kid? …….It makes no logical sense……You might change the law so that IF one parent later becomes a U.S. citizen, THEN any children who were born in the U.S. PRIOR to that will get automatic citizenship…Or even, ALL children of the new citizen who are under 18 born anywhere get citizenship……….That would actually make logical sense though so it would be impossible to get a law passed…..

        • Cees & Bees

          SO that would make all the whites who migrated this country illegal, of the worst kind may i add .

          • John Sadders

            Aliens ,white or not have had to apply for citizenship as soon as an
            immigration system was set up by the U.S. government……Talking of
            whites coming here before there was a national government or much law
            enforcement is just grasping at straws to discredit stopping the U.S.
            from becoming one massive welfare state being overrun by 50 million poor
            parasites and job stealing scabs that will work cheap……

          • Renee

            Some people really should have paid attention in History and Social Study classes.

            • bellpilot

              democrat and liberals are n ot allowing it to be taught in school anymore

      • Diane Brenner

        In all actuality, I hope Texas continues doing what it’s doing. It is a total scam and should not apply to infants of illegal parents. Legal immigrants, fine, but just hopping over the border to deliver a child and then claim all our government pays for a new little citizen. Since Texas, Arizona, and So. Calif. get the most border hoppers, I hope they join Texas in denying citizenship to new borns.

        • Andy

          thank you BUT you will never see it happen

        • j fern

          All Mexicans have a national identity card (actually a voter reg card with photo) which they must produce for all govt services and job applications. No ID no job.

          A matricula consular is not a legal document in Mexico. The mexican national voter ID tracks illegal and criminal activities of the holder. Why is it then none of the illegal invaders can produce this card when they illegally migrate to the US? Why do they need a new identity once here?

          Trump is right. We are importing criminals who make every attempt to hide their true identity. With the help of the Mexican govt.

      • Ilona Mast

        Every state needs to do the same thing

      • alfie0077

        Call it like it really is. The Vatican has destroyed every nation
        they invade. In 1776 there were fewer than 1 percent Catholic. Now, the
        USA has 22 percent Catholic. Where they get the majority, it becomes a
        ‘sanctuary’. See below for more on sanctuary.
        Please help! Trump needs all the help we can give him.. Please repost this a million times! Help educate folks!

        Sanctuary
        means CATHOLIC. They are not ‘illegal immigrants’ they are illegal
        alien CATHOLIC invaders. Invasion, conquest, subjugation, elimination is
        the schedule. Look south of the USA for
        proof of the ‘elimination’ Be Catholic or be dead.
        There
        is not one successful Catholic nation on earth! do away with failure!
        The Vatican has a thousand years, a hundred nations, and not one
        success.

        Jeb is a Catholic traitor! YOU should work harder so Jeb
        can get more illegal alien Catholic invaders to come in. The illegal
        alien Catholic invaders get debit cards, and YOU are paying for them.
        WORK HARDER for the illegal alien Catholic invaders!

        A third of
        all politicians are Catholic traitors. Half call themselves r and half
        d. Do not take lightly the phrase ‘god before county’ this really means
        ‘Vatican before the USA’. This is treason.

        This is not a ‘racist’
        nor a ‘bigot’ statement since the folks that have to be un-elected are
        by and large whyte, fat, mostly male CATHOLIC traitors in congress.
        Those that can be elected can also be un-elected and this is because they are not defending the
        borders as they took the oath of office to do. PLEASE PASS THIS ON, TRUMP NEEDS HELP

        • Atheist 9000

          Right On Brother

        • Mainstreeter

          Democrat provocateur.

        • Leonard Ledoux

          When I was eleven years old I heard similar kind of ignorant ranting regarding the candidacy of John F. Kennedy. He was elected and I beg you to show where the Vatican had any influence over the man, our country, our government. You are foolishly pointing out one religion. The truth of the matter is that millions of people around the world have died in some misplaced belief in some form of supreme being that never existed.

          • Diane Brenner

            As have millions of non believers. I’ll take my chances with God. If He doesn’t exist, I’m not out anything, but if He DOES, then you’re out big time. LOL

            • Leonard Ledoux

              That is fine Diane, please don’t let your “faith” drive you to insist on incorporating your beliefs into law.

              • Diane Brenner

                Trust me, I would do everything in my power to do just that. Then perhaps, our country will return to the wonderful country it was before people like you tried taking over.

          • alfie0077

            Have you heard of teddy the terrible traitor? He was the guy that single handed brought in 10 million illegal alien Catholic invaders to destroy the USA. He was also the the one that really found it difficult to get a nice lady across a bridge and then killed her by neglect. Were they related. I say the teddy the traitor was much worse than what the one you mention did in the way of accomplishments.

            • Leonard Ledoux

              You are clearly a person who believes more in gossip, innuendo and myth than facts and data. No other person was present when the auto accident occurred and investigators obviously didn’t find enough evidence to present charges. It was a most unfortunate event for the young lady and her family. It was not without consequences for the Senator either. The Senator enjoys a reputation in death of a most outstanding career in service to our country. How about yourself? You slander without fact, that is unethical, dishonest and mean.

              • alfie0077

                The fact is that Teddy the traitor did a ‘once only I promise, no more forever illegal alien Catholic invaders in about 1975 to Reagan. Teddy the Catholic traitor was to make a bill that would secure the borders. Teddy the Catholic traitor then ‘forgot’ about the bill and in fact helped millions of illegal alien Catholic invaders across by keeping the borders open. Now, according to Pelosi (Catholic) there are more than 55 to 60 million illegal alien Catholic invaders in the USA right now. When someone supports an invasion by a foreign, hostile to every nation it is called TREASON. I guess you are in support of the TREASONISTS, so you are an accessory to TREASON.
                Your homework assignment is to give the name of a successful Catholic nation. I am waiting.

              • alfie0077

                Soi where is your successful Catholic nation? You know, where there is good standard of living, of education, not indoctrination, not so much murder and stuff like that?

                • Leonard Ledoux

                  Ecuador.

      • Tree Top

        If liberals really cared about lawlessness, they would urge that action be taken against sanctuary cities.

        • catsrock

          Sanctuary cities are not breaking any laws

          • Tree Top

            Questionable, but that will soon change. No more federal law enforcement money to sanctuary cities.

            • j fern

              Better yet, since California is a experiencing a drought according to Gov Moonbeam, no federal WATER for sanctuary cities.

              • alfie0077

                Moonbeam is Catholic so hey he likes treason.

          • Warren Serkin

            Sanctuary cities are aiding and abetting criminal activity and are violating federal law. You might want to do a little research.

            • catsrock

              Warren,
              Sanctuary cities are not violating any laws. The only thing that “sanctuary” means is that people can access city services—police and fire protection, the local public library, water and sewer, send their kids to school and so on and so forth–without any city staff reporting them to the INS and no one will check their citizen or immigrant status. That does not violate any law. Local officials are not required to report people to the INS. And it is illegal to withhold services from people who are legally entitled to them.
              You need to do a little research

              • Warren Serkin

                Trying for the record to see how many times you can be wrong in one day? Federal law requires cooperation with DHS and ICE in reporting those in the country illegally and holding them for deportation. Anyone who is in the country illegal is not entitled to any financial nor social support. thanks for playing. NEXT!

              • Warren Serkin

                One federal law that the Obama administration, particularly the U.S.
                attorney general, should consider is 8 USC section 1324. It deals with
                those persons who knowingly conceal, harbor, or shield undocumented
                aliens and could apply to officials in sanctuary cities and states.

              • j fern

                No, you need to do a lot of research.

                SanFran ignored a federal request for holding a five time deported felon, who when released murdered a young 32 old woman in a tourist areads of SanFran.

                The justification for sanctuary cities by leftists, is that if the authorities don’t ask for immigration status they will be more willing to work with the police to report crimes.

                That just show how stupid liberal leftists are. The illegal immigrant has more to fear from gangs and criminals who live in their communities than the police who don’t.

                Illegal immigration and sanctuary cities allow the widespread growth of illegal alien gangs.
                Coming soon to your town too. Just watch.

                • alfie0077

                  Good for you!… Sanctuary means Catholic traitors.

              • Seriously?

                There is no INS, it’s called USCIS… everything you wrote is unverifiable and BS after I saw that. Another liberal with deep hearts and shallow minds…

            • Diane Brenner

              Every Catholic Church in this country is an automatic sanctuary. If the Church lets them stay, the law can’t touch them. It is not in violation of the law.

              • Warren Serkin

                We were talking about sanctuary cities, not religion. I don’t think much of the Catholic hierarchy since they’ve been losing attendance ever since the child molestation scandals came to light. They need to get more people to support their lavish lifestyles (the Catholic Church is the richest entity in the world) so they happily give sanctuary to Latinos who are here illegally since most of the ARE Catholic.

              • Warren Serkin

                We were talking about sanctuary cities, not religion. I don’t think much of the Catholic hierarchy since they’ve been losing attendance ever since the child molestation scandals came to light. They need to get more people to support their lavish lifestyles (the Catholic Church is the richest entity in the world) so they happily give sanctuary to Latinos who are here illegally since most of the ARE Catholic.

          • j fern

            Of course they are. Please inform yourself.

            Ignorance is not your friend. Posting while ignorant is not a good look.

          • alfie0077

            Only treason is all. Oh and a bunch of others too.

          • They’re breaking federal law. Who dropped you on your head?

            • catsrock

              Shannon,
              Who dropped you on yours? Sanctuary cities are not breaking any laws. Remember what happened to Arizona SB1070? It’s toast. On constitutional grounds.
              Gonzales v. City of Peoria (9th Cir. 1983), the 9th Circuit Court held that the Immigration and Naturalization Act precludes local enforcement of the Act’s civil provisions but does not preclude local enforcement of the Act’s criminal provisions. The Supreme Court came to the same conclusion in Arizona v US (2012). The legal theory is Supremacy Clause (Article VI clause 2) vs. concurrent enforcement. It is not against the law to not report undocumented immigrants to the INS. And that’s all a Sanctuary City does. They do not report these people to the INS

              • The law says you can’t help them at all. I see you have trouble with the English language…

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                • catsrock

                  Just so you know, Mr Shannon, the Minutemen have an unsavory reputation and are one step away from being designated a hate group. Further, it is not your business to patrol the border. You are usurping federal authority and federal law. Which makes you and your group law breakers and criminals.
                  And your operation “Hangman’s Noose”—what are you up to? Lynch mob justice? That’s murder. Very illegal. People like you don’t believe in America or the rule of law. People like you believe in maintaining things as you like them through terrorism. True patriots don’t want anything to do with that kind of crap

                  • Nice try! We observed and reported to law enforcement. I know you anti-Americans want the laws ignored. We support America and Americans. We proved the border could be secured with extra eyes. Illegal immigration and drug cartel activity in the El Paso sector came to stop while we were there. Border Patrol had our cell numbers and radio frequencies. We would communicate be radio and phone. Really sounds like we were doing their jobs? We are an asset to the border patrol. The farmers and ranchers love us. In the El Paso sector they have a fence because of the attention. The Fence works!

                    Then came the POS #Obama. I know, you’re a racist if you want American laws enforced.

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        • alfie0077

          Sanctuary means CATHOLIC

        • So true.

      • Dee Moo

        Hundreds of millions of dollars of tax dollars are used to build stadiums and the city never even shares in the profits. And study after study proves it does not increase revenue for the city, only those that own the stadium. But that’s ok…. keep feeding the rich.
        They will continue to distract you with ridiculous stories that will only piss you off when the constitution is held up.
        Then, all the lazy Americans will get their new iphone then go apply for welfare while the hispanics work to build your bridges and repair your roofs.

        • Seriously?

          @dee moo, you are as ignorant as they come… Stadiums that are built in most cities are part of bond issues that the resident’s of that city vote on…

        • Liberal logic. All that you said is untrue.

          • Dee Moo

            Pretty easy to find out. LMAO…. I’m not liberal. I just know they use our tax dollars and keep all the profits. It’s not hard to find out.

          • Dee Moo

            look it up…. Or does the truth scare you?

      • Tree Top

        In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:

        “Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.”

        • Andrew51

          So, what are you suggesting that means for children born in the USA to undocumented immigrants?

          • klbj2007

            It means exactly what it says. Anyone here illegally, tourists, foreign diplomat, etc will not and CAN NOT be made citizens. You must go through the immigration (Naturalization) process to become a citizen.

            • Andrew51

              “…persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong
              to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the
              Government of the United States” refers to those born here to parents of diplomats. It does not address the children of ordinary foreigners. Grammatically, the phrasing describes one group. If it said something like “…foreigners, aliens OR those who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign diplomats…”, then it would include the children of ordinary foreigners. In reality, the notion of “illegal immigrants” was not even a issue in 1866.

              • klbj2007

                More Liberal redirect. What is the difference between a foreigner and a ordinary foreigner? Both are foreigners. I believe that foreigner is a general term meaning anyone not from the US.

                Besides, The 14th Amendment specifically states “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.” Persons here illegally are not subjects of the US, they are subjects of a foreign nation (Under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes the same Congress who had adopted the Fourteenth Amendment, confirmed this principle: “All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”)http://www.federalistblog.us/2…

                You are right that “illegal immigration” was not an issue in 1866 but it is now and you can’t change the Amendment to mean whatever you want it to mean.

                • Andrew51

                  I’m not changing anything. My interpretation is constitutional law. You are the one who wants to change it. That’s going to take an amendment or a statutory clarification that will survive a constitutional challenge. Both are iffy propositions.

                • easton

                  In a speech before the House of Representatives in May of 1789, Madison said:
                  It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of
                  allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and
                  sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain
                  criterion; it is what applies in the United States
                  So you lose. I will take Madison over YOU anytime. But thanks for playing.

                • catsrock

                  klbj2007,
                  All persons residing in this country, or even just passing through, with the sole exception of foreign diplomatic staff attached to a foreign embassy are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
                  It is you who can’t change the Amendment to mean whatever you want it to mean.

                • j fern

                  Chapo Guzman, the Mexican drug cartel leader, sent his wife to the US to drop their two babies.

                  Should they be granted US Citizenship too? After all, drug dealers have rights too.

          • Tree Top

            They are not citizens.

            • catsrock

              Tree Top,
              They are citizens as determined by the 14th Amendment and by Wong Kim Ark v US (1898)

        • You don’t mind if we take a shot at redefining the 14th amendment to no longer support the Illegal law breaking criminal aliens but Americans and true lawful immigrants!!

          We need to deport every one of these illegal criminal law breaking aliens and make it a felony to enter these United States without proper paper. What I saw in the Arizona desert at midnight with ‪#‎illegal ‪#‎aliens pouring across a 6 strand barbed wire fence that was laying on the ground for them to step over. I’ve been involved since April 1st 2005 and we’ve made no real progress because of our unpatriotic ‪#‎lawmakers. Big Business donates to our lawmakers to keep the flow of slave labor. This must stop!

          #‎NAFTA was another case where Americans received it right up the backside. You’ll never see an American or Canadian truck driver with a load in Mexico. It’s not safe from hijackers. So instead of allowing ‪#‎Canadian to deliver cargo in Canada, ‪#‎Mexicans to deliver cargo in Mexico and ‪#‎Americans to deliver in America our lawmakers shoved it as far up our backside as they could. The only one to benefit is the ‪#‎employer and the Mexican driver hurting the US & Canadian truck drivers.

          Now the ‪#‎H1B visa program, what a joke! This is nothing but a way to obtain compliant ‪#‎slave ‪#‎labor. As an employer what would you want to deal with? An American that knows his rights or an H1B Visa holder that must comply or face ‪#‎deportation in 30 days to their native country. That’s why ‪#‎Google, ‪#‎Microsoft, ‪#‎Facebook, ‪#‎Hilton and etc. want the H1B Visas so that won’t have to respect or deal with the ‪#‎American worker.

          The ‪#‎Answer is to deport everyone here illegally and secure the ‪#‎border with ‪#‎citizen ‪#‎volunteers to start. I have worked a plan for $55 to $60 million over 5 years and the northern and southern borders can be secured and America restored to the success it once had.

          Now corporate America’s tax incentives. All this talk from the ‪#‎Democrats about doing away with the ‪#‎Bush tax breaks. I have the perfect compromise. At tax time the companies that can prove that they employ at least 65% ‪#‎Employee vs ‪#‎Contractor would qualify for the “Bush Tax Break” and the companies that fall below 65% wouldn’t qualify. This would bring employment back to 1980 standards where the company had to compete for our labor.

          I started paying attention in April of 2005 and still not satisfied by what our lawmakers in Washington have done. I pray that I can see America great again before I die!

          This is the perspective from an Old School American!

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          • Tree Top

            My point was that it was not the intent of those in Congress when the 14th amendment passed to grant birthright citizenship to children of illegal immigrants.

            • easton

              In a speech before the House of Representatives in May of 1789, Madison said:
              It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of
              allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and
              sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain
              criterion; it is what applies in the United States
              Madison wrote the Constitution. Wong Kim Ark vs. USA is another case that was fairly contemporary with the 14th amendment.
              In 1865 there was no such thing as illegal alien. For you to claim to speak for them is absurd.

              • j fern

                Actually Wong Kim Ark was decided in 1898. Fully thirty years after the 14th was ratified.

                Please do some homework. The case you are trying to use to bolster your case doesn’t.
                Wong Kim Ark’s parents were LEGALLY domiciled in the US for 20 years.

                They did not enter illegally nor try to stay illegally, like the people you seem to support.
                Big difference. The SCOTUS got it right with Wong Kim, but the decision logically does not apply to people who have invaded the country illegally, although apparently you seem to think it should apply to anyone including drug dealers and terrorists as well?

            • catsrock

              Tree Top,
              In 1868 there was no such thing as an illegal immigrant. The intent of the 14th Amendment, whether you like it or not, was to grant birthright citizenship to everyone born in the United States and under its jurisdiction. The intent was to over turn the Dred Scott decision of 1857.

              • j fern

                Illegal immigrants are not under the jurisdiction of the United States.
                Particularly if then can commit a crime in the US and run back to safety in Mexico.

          • catsrock

            Shannon,
            You are not going to get what you want because no on with the power to grant your wishes wants to. You are up against settled case law, the Chamber of Commerce, the half a trillion dollars and years and years and years of legal processing it would take to deport 12 million people, not to mention the tens of millions of people who are citizens and who vote and who have friends and family who are immigrants and who are totally freaked out by your rhetoric and your demands. Getting whatyou want is simply not going to happen.
            And if you want to recruit decent people to your cause, you need to come up with a better name than “Operation Hangman’s Noose”

            • conrad

              If you are in the United States of America and are Illegally Here, Get Out, Leave, Addioss.

              • alfie0077

                I like the addiosss ! Even an illegal alien Catholic invader can understand that.
                Sanctuary is CATHOLIC The illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders go there.

                You have to vote to get a change. Trump is one of the few non-Catholic folks.

                Know who the enemy is before shooting.

                In Greece they are called Muslims . . In he USA they are called Catholics.

                I have some questions. Is there a country south of the USA that is a success?

                Is there a country south of the USA that is not Catholic?

                Now we have had a third of all politicians in office for the past 40 years are Catholic. Half call themselves r and half d. All are traitors. The phrase ‘god before country’ really should be taken seriously The real meaning of it is ‘ Vatican before the USA’ This is treason .

                Is the USA doing better now that a controlling bloc in the USA is Catholic? The traitors are a bunch of whyte, fat, mostly males that read the Catholic bi-babble rather than defend the Constitution. The ‘race’ card is invalid!

                Vote every Catholic out, vote Trump in, secure the borders, and save the Constitution.

                This is not ‘bigotry’ nor ‘racism’ since almost all that have to be voted out are old, whyte, mostly male CATHOLIC traitors. If they can be elected, then they can be un-elected!. The reason for the un-electing them is that they fail to defend the borders, which is a requirement as stated in the Constitution and they fail to do their job. This is treason, and reason for getting rid of them. .

                Please pass this on.

            • j fern

              Puhleese. The Dred Scott decision was settled law until it wasn’t.

              Only the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights are the law of the Land. Everything else is up for interpretation and re-interpretation.

              Do some homework, and stop repeating someone else’s talking points.

          • alfie0077

            Sanctuary is CATHOLIC The illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders go there.

            You have to vote to get a change. Trump is one of the few non-Catholic folks.

            Know who the enemy is before shooting.

            In Greece they are called Muslims . . In he USA they are called Catholics.

            I have some questions. Is there a country south of the USA that is a success?

            Is there a country south of the USA that is not Catholic?

            Now we have had a third of all politicians in office for the past 40
            years are Catholic. Half call themselves r and half d. All are
            traitors. The phrase ‘god before country’ really should be taken
            seriously The real meaning of it is ‘ Vatican before the USA’ This is
            treason .

            Is the USA doing better now that a controlling bloc in the USA is Catholic? The traitors are a bunch of whyte, fat, mostly males that read the Catholic bi-babble rather than defend the Constitution. The ‘race’ card is invalid!

            Vote every Catholic out, vote Trump in, secure the borders, and save the Constitution.

            This is not ‘bigotry’ nor ‘racism’ since almost all that have to be voted out are old, whyte, mostly male CATHOLIC traitors. If they can be elected, then they can be un-elected!. The reason for the
            un-electing them is that they fail to defend the borders, which is a requirement as stated in the Constitution and they fail to do their job. This is treason, and reason for getting rid of them. .

            Please pass this on.

        • catsrock

          Tree Top,
          Senator Jacob Howard argued for including the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the first clause of the 14th Amendment. Members of diplomatic missions—ambassadors and their staff—and their families are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States or any of the states. I assume you’ve heard of the phrase “diplomatic immunity”. Children of ambassadors and their foreign diplomatic staff who happen to be born in the United are not granted birthright citizenship. The children of everyone else, on the other hand, are. And that has been affirmed by the Supreme Court, US v Wong Kim Ark (1898). That decision has held for the past one hundred seventeen years. It is considered settled.

          • j fern

            Please note, you left out the fact that Wong Kim Ark’s parents were LEGALLY domiciled in California. They were not residing illegally.
            HUGE difference between that and people who illegally invade and trample United States borders.

          • Brock Henderson

            “This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, . . .” Please address this phrase with intellectual honestly, free of sophistry. I look forward to your explanation that somehow – SOMEHOW! – a member of the nativist GOP of the 1860’s did not mean the offspring of invaders of the borders of the U.S. when he mentioned “persons born in the United States who are foreigners.” I’m going to enjoy this.

            • catsrock

              Henderson,
              I already did. Senator Jacob Howard was responsible for the inclusion of the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”. That excludes diplomatic personnel and their families because they are not subject to the jurisdiction of whatever state they happen to live in. That is standard procedure for diplomatic personnel in every country in the world. The only other group exempt, in 1868, were Native Americans living on reservations because these were, and still are, considered separate nations. Native Americans were granted citizenship status, regardless of where they lived, by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. Native Americans who are members of a tribe and/or living on a reservation have dual citizenship.
              As for the “nativist GOP” of the 1860s, you are confused. In the 1840s and 1850s the old Whig Party fell apart and by 1855 was dead as a dodo bird. Political groups splintering off from the Whigs did include the Republican Party that sent Abraham Lincoln to the White House, but it also included the American Republican Party (1843), Native American Party (1844), the American Party (1854). All of these came under the general heading of the “Know Nothings”. The people they hated and wished to exclude were Irish and German Catholics. If you are Irish or German or Catholic, take note. Nineteenth century nativists hated people like you every bit as much as you hate Mexicans
              The Know Nothing Movement collapsed in 1856 after a disastrous run for the presidency. What was left of it ran a candidate in 1860, managed to win three states and then disappeared.
              The Republican Party was a mix of anti-slavery people (not necessarily abolitionists) who left the Whig and Democratic Parties to form a new party. They wanted nothing to do with the Know Nothings.

              • Brock Henderson

                Uh, nope. The Know-Nothings were a political force that JOINED the abolitionists and corporatists in the GOP of the 1860’s. I noticed that you couldn’t bring yourself to shamelessly state, explicitly, that the GOP of that era WOULD and DID knowingly allow the offspring of border invaders to immediately obtain citizenship. That’s a good thing, because at least now we know that you’re not a bold-faced liar. But you know nothing about my politics. In point of fact, I favor full amnesty for all illegals in the country right now – in return for a moratorium of 20-25 years on all immigration to this country. How is the former consistent with hating Mexicans? Yes, I’m Catholic, a medieval altar-throne Euro-monarchist, in fact. But in place of God’s Law, traditional Christians must honestly and forthrightly appeal to whatever law there is, even secular civil law like the U.S. Constitution, in order to seek justice.

      • Dee Moo

        So all the comments are pretty much saying FU the US Constitution and it’s amendments…… got it. smgdh. Wonder how the Native Americans feels about all this BS

        • panchoVilladeltren

          Dee Bovine A.K.A.. M-o-o-o
          Redskin think-um “Wetbacks, get-um of our sacred ground.”
          Boom boom boom, the war drums are sounding.

          • Dee Moo

            Ya no…. that’s funny. Hon, I’m so white I burn in the shade. And yes, Moo was actually a positive nickname, and still is, for my spouse in the old school days. so yes, Mooooooooooooo

            • panchoVilladeltren

              I had a young friend whom was nicknamed Moo , also. And, like you, also had a great sense of humor.

              • Dee Moo

                Thank you… It was actually my husbands nickname.

          • Dee Moo

            Texas is so quick to defend their interpretation of the 2nd Amendment and arm themselves against the perceived threat of ‘jade helm’…
            Yet when they don’t want to uphold the 14th amendment, they scream and shout.
            Funny.

            • panchoVilladeltren

              Dee moo
              Both are for self protection. A gun keeps you safe from the bad guys, and the 14th amendment, when interpreted as it should, leaves it to the discretion of the state. When foreign women get pregnant every 10 months, sneak into Texas to deliver, on our nickel, and then use the kid, who like blacks, have no known father, to get welfare, it puts a strain on our resources.. Should we do without so these criminals can keep sneaking in, to drop another, and then suck up more welfare? Keeping it morally right is one way to be protected from parasites.
              We are not hurting them, we don’t want them hurting us anymore. If we wanted herds of kids, we would have our own in those amounts.

              As far as jade helm.
              Only a fool would trust Obama, the Muslim terrorist best friend.

          • Dee Moo

            That is what the lack of education does to a person. ^^^ causes them to write nonsense.

            • panchoVilladeltren

              Dee moo
              The highly educated Bovine. . Manages to write shmart manure. You go, Betsy the hereford. Impress us with your ignorant nonsense.

              • Dee Moo

                So trolls don’t live under bridges. Imagine that.

                • panchoVilladeltren

                  And Heifers can live out side a barn. Have you been M-o-o-o-o-ved indoors yet?
                  Tell me, Where are you from, Jersey belle? Midwest? North east? Just curious, as you have a good attitude. Are you a farm girl, or just always wanted to be?

                  • Dee Moo

                    Only in your fantasies….which are the only way you get anything

                    • panchoVilladeltren

                      And just how do YOU get anything? By getting the ‘herd’ together to protest?

                    • panchoVilladeltren

                      De moo—A.K.A. Jersey Belle:
                      I know you are not from the South. your mental deficiency shows it. Are you by chance from Wisconsin? ( I can read ‘Yankee, and you write Yankee. ) Southerners have a more colorful means of discussion. Winter is coming, try to get back indoors, or at least get away from the side the wind is blowing. A heifer with frostbite is a sad thing to see.
                      Here in the holler, we’uns just love our farm critters.

            • panchoVilladeltren

              So says the MOO-RON to the intellect.

      • randy brown

        GOOD ITS TIME TO STOP THE PRACTICE OF ANCHOR BABIES IF THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY SO ARE THEIR SPAWN

        • alfie0077

          The immediate danger is right here in the USA and right now.
          Please help spread the word…….
          There is not one successful Catholic nation on earth.
          Sanctuary means CATHOLIC.
          They are not ‘illegal immigrants’ they are illegal alien CATHOLIC
          invaders.
          Invasion, conquest, subjugation, elimination is the schedule. Look
          south of the USA for proof of the ‘elimination’. Be Catholic or be
          dead.Jeb is a Catholic traitor! YOU should work harder so Jeb can get
          more illegal alien Catholic invaders to come in. The illegal alien
          Catholic invaders get debit cards, and YOU are paying for them. WORK
          HARDER for the illegal alien Catholic invaders! A third of all
          politicians are Catholic traitors.
          Half call themselves r and half d. Do not take lightly the phrase ‘god
          before county’ this really means ‘Vatican before the USA’. This is
          treason.This is not a ‘racist’ nor a ‘bigot’ statement since the folks
          that have to be un-elected are by and large whyte, fat, mostly male
          CATHOLIC traitors in congress. Those that can be elected can also be
          un-elected and this is because they are not defending the borders as
          they took the oath of office to do. PLEASE PASS THIS ON,
          TRUMP NEEDS HELP.

        • Andy

          better yet drown them

      • Anthony

        Just one more reason to move to Texas!!!

        • Jack O’Scratch

          Just one more reason to nuke Texas.

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        • Dynamic iFiction

          Why should federal laws be broken to appease people who have entered illegally in order to obtain citizenship for their children? FEDERAL LAW PROHIBITS ILLEGAL ENTRY, and thus any “civil rights” that may have been gained via citizenship are automatically denied. On the other hand, Mexico and the Central Americas are in dire need of economic stability – if those nations completely fail, then the USA and CANADA will also fail. This is an emergency situation, much more threatening to the USA than any international terrorism.

          • alfie0077

            A third of congress and senate are Catholic traitors.

            The immediate danger is right here in the USA and right now.
            Please help spread the word…….
            There is not one successful Catholic nation on earth.
            Sanctuary means CATHOLIC.
            They are not ‘illegal immigrants’ they are illegal alien CATHOLIC
            invaders.
            Invasion, conquest, subjugation, elimination is the schedule. Look
            south of the USA for proof of the ‘elimination’. Be Catholic or be
            dead.Jeb is a Catholic traitor! YOU should work harder so Jeb can get
            more illegal alien Catholic invaders to come in. The illegal alien
            Catholic invaders get debit cards, and YOU are paying for them. WORK
            HARDER for the illegal alien Catholic invaders! A third of all
            politicians are Catholic traitors.
            Half call themselves r and half d. Do not take lightly the phrase ‘god
            before county’ this really means ‘Vatican before the USA’. This is
            treason.This is not a ‘racist’ nor a ‘bigot’ statement since the folks
            that have to be un-elected are by and large whyte, fat, mostly male
            CATHOLIC traitors in congress. Those that can be elected can also be
            un-elected and this is because they are not defending the borders as
            they took the oath of office to do. PLEASE PASS THIS ON,
            TRUMP NEEDS HELP.

      • alfie0077

        Call it like it really is. The Vatican has destroyed every nation they invade. In 1776 there were fewer than 1 percent Catholic. Now, the USA has 22 percent Catholic. Where they get the majority, it becomes a ‘sanctuary’. See below for more on sanctuary.
        Please help! Trump needs all the help we can give him.. Please repost this a million times! Help educate folks!

        Sanctuary means CATHOLIC.
        They are not ‘illegal immigrants’ they are illegal alien CATHOLIC invaders. Invasion, conquest, subjugation, elimination is the schedule. Look south of the USA for proof of the ‘elimination’ Be Catholic or be dead.
        There is not one successful Catholic nation on earth! do away with failure! The Vatican has a thousand years, a hundred nations, and not one success.

        Jeb is a Catholic traitor! YOU should work harder so Jeb can get more illegal alien Catholic invaders to come in. The illegal alien Catholic invaders get debit cards, and YOU are paying for them. WORK HARDER for the illegal alien Catholic invaders!

        A third of all politicians are Catholic traitors. Half call themselves r and half d. Do not take lightly the phrase ‘god before county’ this really means ‘Vatican before the USA’. This is treason.

        This is not a ‘racist’ nor a ‘bigot’ statement since the folks that have to be un-elected are by and large whyte, fat, mostly male CATHOLICS in congress.
        Those that can be elected can also be un-elected and this is because they are not defending the borders as they took the oath of office to do. PLEASE PASS THIS ON, TRUMP NEEDS HELP

        • Anthony

          Yawn!

        • al_literate

          Dude, your foil hat has slipped and now you look cockeyed

          • alfie0077

            You gave yourself away. The pervert in the black sack gave that one liner to you.

      • alfie0077

        Juan Hernandez, the illegal alien Catholic invader, had just waded across the Rio Grande and was soaking wet.

        Julia Smith saw him and saw the ‘need’ that he had of dry clothing, food and a place to sleep for the night.

        Julia made a nice dinner, gave him some nice dry clothes, and a place to sleep for the night. In the morning Juan, the illegal alien Catholic invader raped her, killed her, and went on to disappear in a nice Sanctuary in SF. The end.

        • Anthony

          Yaawn!

          • alfie0077

            You have to b e one of the Catholic zombies.

      • alfie0077

        I call the Vatican the ‘destroying horde’.
        Bush has never changed his ‘principals’. Once a Catholic, always a Catholic. Treason has no bounds.
        Bush wants the USA to be another Vatican satellite. Know who the enemy really is.

        you are Catholic no need to be logical.
        Treason is the nice part of being Catholic. Failure is the not nice part. Vote for any Catholic and you vote to destroy the nation. Look south a hundred nations a thousand years and not one success in the lot.
        This is not a ‘racist’ nor a ‘bigot’ statement since the folks that have to

        be un-elected are by and large whyte, fat, mostly male CATHOLIC traitors in congress.
        Those that can be elected can also be un-elected and this is because they are not defending the borders as
        they took the oath of office to do. PLEASE PASS THIS ON, TRUMP NEEDS HELP. SAVE THE NATION

        • Anthony

          Yaaaaawn!

      • Bless his heart

        Speaking of evil doing people saying that they are doing good by assisting a religious invasion to convert the USA that is not Latin.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PzT8vEvYPg

      • DoTheMathAgain

        Why do Mexicans preach so much about open borders when they are in America, but not when they are in Mexico? The vast majority of Mexicans I’ve met favor open borders for America, yet Mexico still does not have open borders! It’s very confusing!

        • Bless his heart

          Simply adopting Mexican immigration and citizenship laws would solve the problem.
          Respect Mexico. Adopt their immigration and citizenship laws.

        • Marco

          Honestly, don’t see Mexico doing much progression in subjects like these. They already have too much on their hand with corruption.. & people tired of it are the ones fleeing

      • Bless his heart

        By applying the 14th Amendment as written and as intended by the writers, and as international law has applied similar construction, Texas is correct.
        The 14th Amendment was intended to ensure that former black slaves and indigenous Americans who were subject to the jurisdiction of the United States were citizens. People in the jurisdiction of the United States, as all across the world people in similar circumstances, impart their citizenship on their children. That the goodness and kindness of the United States is being used against it is typical. It is an act of war on the part of some. Gratuitous citizenship is not deserved or earned or automatically imparted on anyone just because they happen to be born in some country somewhere. It is something that this nation must define as it causes such a massive amounts of bad acts. I suggest 1999 as the last year of gratuitous citizenship. The immigration laws have been intentionally unenforced since prior to that due to bad intent by m,any people, including Democrats desiring to replace the 50% of potential black vvoters it has ended prior to birth, and establishment Republicans who desire cheap labor, to drive labor prices down partially as a counter to unions, and other nefarious reasons.
        The wage rates have fallen due to the shipping of jobs out of the country and by importing foreign illegal labor to undercut the lower and middle class in this country, definitely including undercutting black wages.
        Texas is constitutionally correct in such actions. Possibly, I recall, that many foreign women have been claiming children were born here that were not. Whether that is the case or question here, Texas is within the constitution to deny citizenship to anyone who does not have a USA citizen as a parent.
        It is more imperitive considering the enemies of America who have invaded such that there are now as many Mexicans in the USA as existed everywhere in 1950. La raza desires expelling Europeans, as Hugo Chavez had also stated. La Reconquista desires a country they claimed the border walked over them . Actually, they had their bit of America and now it is a failed state with crime rampant and spilling into the USA. Of course NAFTA and the drug war helped that failure, just as they have daaged the USA.
        I believe that the USA must enforce its laws as the rest of the world enforces such laws. The attraction to come here to have children must be ended, as well as the genocidal intended demographic shift that has been expressed and acted upon for decades.
        All of Mexico’s recent presidents have agr5eed with the invasion of the USA and support it at all levels. The USA must counter this. Deport them all back to 1999. We may stay the USA if that is done.
        Texas is correct that people are claiming babies born outside of the USA. i hope that those born here are given the proper citizenship, which is the nationality of their parent’s nations.

        • lechuguita

          “By applying the 14th Amendment as written and as intended by the writers, and as international law has applied similar construction, Texas is correct. ” you are delusional and confused.

          the 14th amendment is a US CONSTITUTION amendment, meaning that it can only be changed by amendment, not by state or federal statute. It’s interpretation is something decided by federal judges.

          As for federal judges in 1898, the U.S. Supreme Court addressed the guarantee of the 14th
          Amendment and affirmed the fundamental principle that children born on American soil are U.S. citizens without regard to their parents’ status. In United States v. Wong Kim Ark, the Court held that a baby
          born in San Francisco to Chinese parents — subjects of China prohibited by law from becoming U.S. citizens — was a citizen at birth under the 14th Amendment. This principle has been the settled law of the land for
          more than a century.

          So Texas can do what every it likes..BUT IT CANNOT VIOLATE THE CIVIL LIBERTIES OF THESE BABIES or any Americans.

          As for international law..TEXAS IS STILL WRONG. One thing is birth certificate the other is Citizenship, in many countries you are not considered a citizen just because you are born there..BUT THEY STILL GIVE THEM THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Denying them their certificate is like denying them they were even born WHICH I DO NOT RECALL ANY NATION DOING THIS not even China when they were strict about 1 child policy.

          In terms of international law, the Texan one is barbaric.

          • Bless his heart

            Actually my position is not at the crux of this.

            These babies were born elsewhere according to many reports about how even the mid wife system has become full of fraud. The border area is rife with that fraud.

            It used to be a source of pride that we had completely unprotected borders with Canada and Mexico. Now it is a source of invasion and evil intent by many. Now we have a white house occupant encouraging the violation of laws as he hates the USA that he wants it transformed demographically and culturally. He wants strife between groups.

            This does reach my position if the children were born here of illegally present foreign nationals.
            The argument being that illegally present foreign nationals are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US as intended in the 14th Amendment. Wong’s parents were legally present.

            If Texas wants proof that these children were born here, so be it. They have every right.

            Having many people be raped, murdered, beaten, robbed on the trips here is barbaric. Because an enemy of the nation wants to Clowarde-Piven the nation is barbaric. Yet it is a tactic of war. It is being used effectively against the USA. Any place that it can be legitimately opposed it must be.

            Homes and whole villages could have been constructed from just a short amount of time of the money spent by Obama’s invasion. Instead it is wasted and destructive of so many communities and schools in the USA, with no gain. The barbarism is in the attack on the USA and the long stated desired genocide here. To ignore those people will bring about our end, which many desire. then the poverty of the world and the crude power used to control it will also be here. Then that ability to have helped the people in their own country will be gone, as it near is to be gone.

            A certificate that the parents claim they were born here might be all that Texas should give them. Considering how corrupt the claimed citizenship and birth industry near the border is now, Texas is right and justified in demanding any proof it desires. Those parents could also contact the nation to whom they are subject to for ID. It would likely not be US ID, as they are citizens of their parent’s nation(s).

            When a child is brought across the border, then a birth certificate is claimed, it is no barbarism to refuse such a document.

            By the way, What federal immigration law and enforcement?
            Obama has ceased most such enforcement and protections of the US and its people.

          • Tim Brown

            What utter nonsense, Texas has done no such thing. They simply asked for the people to prove the child was born here before giving legal status. Otherwise people would just cross the border and claim their children were born here when they really were not.

            • Lucy Cheng

              Absolutely true that we Americans have to provide so many proofs to get licenses etc. We had to bring 6 points of legal proof to get a non-driver state i.d. for my 18-yr-old son recently. We are always compliant. Why should illegals feel that they have ANY right to COMPLAIN?

          • klbj2007

            The Supreme Court got it wrong too. The 14th Amendment specifically states “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.” Persons here illegally are not subjects of the US, they are subjects of a foreign nation (Under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes the same Congress who had adopted the Fourteenth Amendment, confirmed this principle: “All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”) http://www.federalistblog.us/2

            This is why we need actual judges instead of activists to interpret the law but the law is very specific. Please take your liberal arguments back to the HuffPost or whatever trash media you use. If you people are going to consistently not get our Constitution correct how about keeping your liberal mouths shut.

            • Jack O’Scratch

              What law school did you attend, idiot?

              • klbj2007

                Well first of all I didn’t attend Law School and didn’t need to to understand how the law is written. Secondly, you are they exact reason Liberals are a big problem in this country. Too stupid to do your own research on topics. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid and listening to liberal biased media because they know what’s best for you.

                • Atheist 9000

                  Rock on Kennedy

            • lechuguita

              Reread the first clause of the 14th amendment: “All persons BORN or naturalized in the United States”

              These children were all born in the US the interpretation of the Supreme Court is right YOU ARE CONFUSED ABOUT THE MEANING OF “Subject to any foreign nation” and this is because you are getting your information from a biased blog.

              In another Supreme court decision this matter was put to rest:

              In the Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1873) a majority of the Supreme Court mentioned in passing that “the phrase ‘subject to its jurisdiction’ was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States”. The mothers’ of these children are not ambassadors of Mexico.

              As for activist judges; please post the links or the information you have linking any of them with what you consider “activism” . Just because you do not agree with their decision does it mean they have some kind of “hidden agenda”

              Again, Texas HAS NO LEGAL STANDING AND IS VIOLATING THE LAW. These mothers have the right to sue for their children’s birth certificate.

      • DoTheMathAgain

        Some commenters are clearly a bit confused about history, so here’s a refresher: Mexicans are a mix of Native American and Spaniard, which is why they also speak Spanish. They are the descendants of the Spanish conquistadors, while Americans are the descendants of the British, who arrived over a hundred years after the Spaniards had taken this land from the Native Americans (although historians believe most of North America was cleared of Native Americans by European diseases like smallpox, which had swept through Europe in several large plagues, and that these diseases began killing Native Americans even before the Spanish ships had landed). The British Americans fought the Mexican American war, which ended through the Treaty of Gaudalupe, through which America purchased several states from Mexico. We also purchased land from Mexico through the Gadsden Purchase. The British were the first people to create reservations for people conquered in war, the so-called “Native” Americans who had stolen this land from the European Clovis and Solutreans, and who had fought bloody tribal wars with eachother which kept the Aztec altar constantly wet with fresh blood all year round. Hundreds of thousands of prisoners were killed each year by he Aztecs. The Powhattan tribe also starved the British in Jamestown Fort so that they had to turn to cannibalism in order to survive. The Wampanoags made a pact with the British to use British firepower against their enemies, the Narragansett tribe, which is how we got the first Thanksgiving.

        The only thing that distinguishes the Native Americans from Europeans is that the “Native” Americans were not humane enough to create reservations for the people they stole the land from, the Clovis and the Solutreans. Further, the vast majority of wars at that time were fought over land, which is why the European lands of ancient Rome and Constantinople no longer exist, having been stolen through war. Some racist people see history in terms of “White people bad, Native American people good” and refuse to acknowledge that the Native Americans slaughtered Europeans when they found them, scalped them, kidnapped them, and joined King George in fighting against the colonists (which is noted in the Declaration of Independence), and yes, the Native Americans constantly fought eachother and the colonists over land and treated their prisoners brutally. Stop being so racist and look at history a little more honestly. There is a reason Europeans called them “savages”. Ann Hutchinson suggested the colonists befriend the Native Americans, so she was booted from her village and then slaughtered by the very Native Americans she had defended. Even the term “cannibalism” comes from the cannibal Carib tribe. Little land on this planet is in the hands of its original inhabitants except possibly the reservations that whites created for Native American tribes, assuming the Clovis and Solutreans never lived there.

        • j fern

          And you believe the Aztecs were savages because…….the Spanish wrote the historical accounts?
          The Spanish were the rapists, murderers and butchers, but you would believe them?
          I wonder how the German Nazis would have written history had they been the victors.

          Imagine if the Islamists win the next war how they will portray the modern US in history books.
          Abortion, murder, madness, transgender armies, global spying…….?

      • lechuguita

        Stupid Texans. Oh well this is the state that gave the nation the Bushes. Why is it stupid let me enumerate them:

        1) with or without a birth certificate it is still up to the US GOVERNMENT AND ONLY THEM TO DEEM A PERSON A US CITIZEN or NOT. Denying them a birth certificate does nothing stop the 14th amendment for being applied.

        2) with a US birth certificate the Baby CAN STILL BE DEPORTED with mom due to mom’s unlawful status in the country. So really there is no such thing as a ANCHOR BABY.

        3) NO STATE LAW IN THE LAND..can violate THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS COUNTRY….Texas is breaking constitutional law by denying those certificates, eventually Texas will be order to print out those certificates.

        4)I will not be surprise if these mothers end up suing Texas in behalf of these children for violating their constitutional rights…KA-CHING(Paid by Texans)

        5)So what does Texas gets out of this?That depends who you are..if you are a GOP politician you get to say you did something about illegal immigration, and keep people voting for you. If you are an illegal now you can sue, if your US born child is denied its birth certificate. If your a normal Texas you foot the bill for the mess.

        • Uknowsomuch

          Texas is simply putting an end to decades of fence hoping. Also, I’m pretty sure you need money for court fees to be able to sue someone. These people don’t have 2 dimes they can rub together to make a third.

          • lechuguita

            “Texas is simply putting an end to decades of fence hoping” that is laughable, these kind of laws will never stop “fence jumping” since it does not stop the constitution from being applied.

            As for money their legal aid they are getting help by a non-profit organization go reread the article.

            • Uknowsomuch

              Well It certainly doesn’t incentivize it either. On a broad scale, Texas is putting its foot down by going after the next generation. You say this move will ultimately prove to be moot but they must feel they have some right/authority to do so; some kind of loophole if you will. If that’s the case than non-profits and other organizations will be slow to back any broke illegals in court if their case holds no water

              • klbj2007

                Texas absolutely has the right. Lechu is just another Liberal trying to re-write the Constitution.

                The 14th Amendment specifically states “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.” Persons here illegally are not subjects of the US, they are subjects of a foreign nation (Under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes the same Congress who had adopted the Fourteenth Amendment, confirmed this principle: “All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”) http://www.federalistblog.us/2

          • DoTheMathAgain

            I hate to say this, but they will use the ACLU or some other leftist organization, or may even find a way to bring a lawsuit paid for with our tax dollars. Either way, Texas is bold to push back while most of the country is laying flat on its face and saying “invade me”. Our leftist legal organizations are an entirely other monster in this fight to keep the country afloat.

          • Renee

            The ACLU or NAACP typically handle these cases

        • j fern

          re: “3) NO STATE LAW IN THE LAND..can violate THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS COUNTRY.”

          – So you agree, that San Francisco and every other Sanctuary City in the US cannot supersede or violate the Constitution.

          Great. Thanks for playing.

      • Marco

        People keep fighting to try and hold back immigrants from prospering in the US. Is it jelousy ? Is it envy ? What is it ? Instead of wasting their time fighting this, they should find a way to progress with what already has been done. If there’s 11 million undocumented people in the US, then too fu**ing bad that there’s 11 million undocumented people in the US. Do you really think you’ll be able to deport them all ? Fu** no you will not. The smart thing to do, is to find a solution as to what your going to do with these people. Why can’t America see the good in this immigration thing, and use it to their advantage. Having people from different bias, could help in different branches of the U.S. and make these branches grow again. The great America was BUILT from immigrants. It prospered with immigrants. Without immigrants, America, simply won’t be America.

        • Uknowsomuch

          It’s not about immigrants. It’s about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. They come here illegally and don’t pay taxes and ultimately suck off of the system.

          • Marco

            And you wouldn’t like to put an end to this by LEGALIZING them and making them pay taxes? And making America Have a little more budget ? Because obviously deporting 11 million people is not a good choice. And what has been done has been done. Maybe if there was 1 million illegal immigrants then I’ll probably believe that deporting them would be an okay option. But in this case, people from those 11 million undocumented have already greatly contributed in the growth of the U.S.. Removing them, will simply not be a good idea for the future U.S. anymore. Having them be legal and PAY taxes, would be my way to go. This should honestly be trumps way to go if he was actually economically smart. Or he might be, but just might be envy something about illegal immigrants

            • Sir Chan

              better to deport the criminals..

              • Marco

                Yeah, but you still won’t solve much by just deporting the ” criminals ” there’s still criminals that aren’t specifically illegal inmigrants. Not only that but you’ll still have million of immigrants in the US. Unless the US finds a way to settle them here, there’s no other way to efficiently solve this problem

                • Sir Chan

                  The simple solution is to take away the JOBS, SERVICES and HANDOUTS for illegals in this country. Let them walk home. No need for a fence, no need to deport, no need to profile.. Just let the illegal criminals walk back home like they arrived!

                • Deport all the illegal law breaking criminal aliens!

              • Dee Moo

                deporting criminals, all of them?… where will we send them? Australia? Ireland? Sorry. Wrong century.

            • Warren Serkin

              The solution is so simple that you can’t even see it. Make it impossible for anyone without proper documentation to find a job, make it impossible for anyone without proper documentation to receive ANY kind of public financial or social support, do away with Jus Soli and you’ll see them scurry back to their home countries so fast it’ll make your head swim. And no more will come.

              • Marco

                And when’s that’s going to happen ? Do you believe reform voters in the congress are going to pass such thing ? Seems like your ” solution ” isn’t a great idea after all.

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        • DoTheMathAgain

          Every country on Earth was formed by immigrants. So what? At the time of free human migration, there were no property laws or immigration laws, but there were lots of wars over land. Guess what has changed?

          • Marco

            And don’t you want to make a difference and find a solution instead of fighting for things? Instead of doing what already has been done before, if you can analyze it and see that nothing has changed, then why not Try to find a way and make things work without fighting ? Easy stuff. Instead of following the steps that have been done before, if there has been no solution, then why take those same steps. If sh** already didn’t work out, then move on to the next option, be open minded into the great contributions that our current immigration “problems” have brought us

            • DoTheMathAgain

              Tell that to California. According to the leftists SPLC’s hate map, they have the most hate groups (by far!) of any state in the nation. California has a whopping 77 hate groups! While most states only have one or two hate groups, tops! This pattern can be seen for each racially diverse state and, of course, America is far more racially diverse than any other European country and has far more violent crime, but if we removed the non-white population from our crime statistics, our crime rates drop to less than those of any other European country. Robert Putnam, a political scientist at Harvard, so feared left wing backlash that he waited 5 years to publish his research which showed that racial diversity increases conflict and violence. If you wish to change things, bub, you’d better study it first. America naturalizes more immigrants as legal citizens each year than any other nation on Earth, yet all we get for it is grief and loads of national debt. This is because, unlike most countries, we take in people who benefit more from our country than they contribute.
              Anyway, if you reread my comment, Marco, you’ll notice I did discuss change: immigration laws are a change since most wars on this planet were fought over land. So long as Mexicans come here, either live off of social programs or steal somebody’s identity in order to take a job from somebody and drive down American wages, demand to speak Spanish and hang their Mexican flag, I don’t see them doing much to diminish conflict.

              • Marco

                You’re totally right. Diversity in race can cause conflict and does cause conflict according to statistics. You know what would diminish conflicts. If all these different races had equal right. Equal treating. One race will simply get mad at another race, if they fear inequality. As we see frequently in this clashes of white cops and black suspects. The black race simply is trying to stand up for justice. Justice in which we have numerously seen, has not been served. This is of course my theory of why we have a problem with race diversification. Other then that, I’ve seen great things out of race diversification. People just love learning from other heritages. I don’t see a problem with having diversed races as soon as you open your eyes when you wake up. Imagine if life was nothing but squares. Do you not believe having a triangle in there would be awesome ? Or is there something bad about having 3 corners instead of 4 ? Wouldn’t you want to learn more from that one triangle that stands out from the other figures I know I would. And I know that triangle might damn well make some good differences in a life full of squares

                • DoTheMathAgain

                  So you’re saying that California treats people of different races the most unequally of any state in the nation? Would you agree to get rid of affirmative action which gives brownie points to non-whites over whites? How about getting rid of the NAACP and other racist organizations that only exist to give special rights based on skin color? How about getting rid of our current unfair system of “Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, and white countries for everybody”? That way, I could pick up and move to Japan (or even Mexico) whenever I felt like, and nobody would question whether I was more a mooch or drain on the country than a benefit, and I’d be given amnesty even if I had a criminal record? Also, how about recognizing that when criminal thugs like Mike Brown wrestle with a cop over his gun, they put their own lives at risk, while unarmed white teens Dillon Taylor an Gilbert Collar were both innocent and yet the black cops who shot them were never indicted and the media didn’t say a word about it. No riots over those cases. Get rid of THAT type of unequal treatment? THAT I can agree with.

                  • Marco

                    Yes. I would say that even tho’ as great of a defender of illegal immigrants California is/ may look like, it still poses those people that are greatly against these rulings done by the state of California. I would say that because California is a big defender of illegal immigrants, it has caused others to maybe feel less of themselves, has caused them to hate more those illegal immigrants, the once people that were just racist, have become SUPER racist, and why ? Because they have been fighting and fighting for things like those of giving illegal immigrants drivers licenses to not get approved, and guess what ? They got approved, and this creates such hatred among those people opposing to this.. The problem here is people that are ignorant, strictly support to what they THINK is the right option, to what they were raised to THINK is the right option, and are not open minded to others. To a different outcome. They are more self interested. They just want what’s best for themselves and not for everybody. I see Americans becoming selfish… That’s something a lot can probably agree with. Just think about it yourself. How many actions / decisions have you done in your life , without being selfish ? Hmm … Media Is just the media, they will televise something that may or may not be a big thing, and just make it bigger, what for ? To have something to controverse about. To have the top headline, to be the ones to capture BIG thing. This I see as a bad thing… And from here is one way where inequality is felt and seen, sometimes is May just be a 1 time action and made into big discussion, and sometimes it has been a repetitive action, like as we can see from the Maryland police department, which actually show the unfair treatments done towards blacks. I just believe that legalizing this 11 million or so people is right way to deal with them. Not only that, but fastest… The much more we waste in paying for benefits for ” illegal immigrants ” the more money is lost, the poorer the U.S. becomes, and the richer all other countries become

                    • DoTheMathAgain

                      Marco, there is a law of reciprocity which states that if one race gives and gives and gives, while another race just takes and demands more, and the first race says “I’m tired of giving while you just take, so I refuse to give anymore until you give back”, that race is not actually being selfish. You are clearly racist against white people to expect them to ceaselessly do all of the giving, forever expecting nothing in return. If you wrote out what all you expect of whites, and then replaced the word “whites” with “blacks”, you’d be shocked by the obvious racism in your own expectations. Try that sometime. Make a list that begins “I expect whites to…” and then make a list of everything you expect of whites, and then go through and replace the word “whites” with “blacks” or with “Mexicans”. You’ll be blown away by your own selfishness. You need to start holding all races to the same ridiculously high standards that you hold white people to. Odd that you should preach about unfairness while so clearly holding such racistly unfair expectations of whites. How would you like it if Mexico was invaded by people who expected Mexicans to labor to support the invaders, and to give the invaders perks and benefits that the Mexican citizens don’t even get, and the invaders decided to make up stories so they could pretend everything in Mexico was owed to them? What if those invaders were white? Anyway, I’m finished wasting time responding to you, as you seem to have a hole in your brain where logic should be. If you want to demonstrate how unselfish you are, convince Mexico to adopt the same open border policy you claim America needs. If Mexico thinks we should take whoever they send our way, the least they could do is be an example by doing that themselves.

                      • Marco

                        And if the “whites” are tired of giving and not getting Back, do you not think already think that illegal immigrants already give back enough ? They work on fields, work in the sun, doing jobs that, not a lot of Americans are in. They already have to work hiding in the shadows, getting paid below minimum wage, and still have to support a family ? Do you not think that is a demonstration of how they are giving back ? I guess you can see they are not exactly giving back, but how is america going to reject those people that day to day wake up to work in 100+ Farenheit, get paid below minimum, and still have to take food to the table. Do you not feel like that’s bad ??? Not only that, but the fact that perhaps they have been living in this country for 15+ years ? They already have adapted. Obviously if they came here, it’s for a pretty good damn reason… With that being said, what do you suggest is the better option to do with 11 million illegal immigrants

              • Marco

                Do you also know how we can have equality for all ? By having rules & protocals in place which should not discriminate race . Protocols which should not change an action based on race. People are discovering right now that we have so many unlawful protocols set in place, which has slowly, made an inbalance in what races feel they are worth. And that’s when all these conflicts caused by diversification come in

                • DoTheMathAgain

                  I totally agree with getting rid of affirmative action and organizations like La Raza and the NAACP which only exist to give benefits based on skin color. Those are racist, and yes they do frustrate whites a lot. But the policy of “Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, and white countries for everybody” is also unfair against whites and frustrating. No non-white country has a racial diversity requirement in their immigration policies. Japan is 98% ethnic Japanese! Furthermore, the fewer whites in a country, the more violent it is, yet non-whites pretend like it’s whites that make a country unfair or violent. If Mexicans would just go back to Mexico, they’d have few whites to have to deal with, so why are they coming here? Also, when white teens who are no only unarmed, but innocent of any wrongdoing (such as Gilbert Collar and Dillon Taylor) are shot by black cops and the cops are not indicted, there is zero national news coverage and zero rioting.

                  We have institutional racism against whites in every country that is majority white. No other country bends over backwards so much for their racial minorities as America, having spent untold trillions to try to help them since they refuse to help themselves, yet racism works against whites in countries where they are the minority. There has been an ongoing genocide of whites in South Africa which has killed over 70,000 whites since 1994, and over a million whites have fled, but they can’t come to America due to the diversity requirement in our immigration policies, something no non-white country even has! Our media doesn’t even report this for fear Americans will demand our immigration laws change, from favoring Mexicans who aren’t in near as much danger for their lives. Yet the Mexicans come here and fly their Mexican flags and speak Spanish and claim “This is OUR land! You stole it!” showing their ignorance of history. Whites aren’t too stupid to see who will be left paying the tab: US, as always. It’s easy to preach about getting along when all you do is take and expect whites to carry you. Go home and get along with your own people, instead of mooching off whites all the time. Quit chasing whites everywhere they go shouting “You’re the problem! You’re the problem!” We obviously AREN’T the problem when we are fleeing from you and you insist on living amongst us. Quit being so racist against your own people, and go live amongst them.

                • DoTheMathAgain

                  BTW, it appears no Mexicans who preach about America rolling out the welcome mat recognize how hollow that sounds until Mexico does it, allowing anyone who wants to immigrate to Mexico. At least Mexico could be a good example. It makes sense that a first world country would not want to be the first to try that. If you guys believe so much in diversity and free immigration, convince Mexico to adopt an open border policy.

                  • Marco

                    Not that easy for it to work in a country with lots of corruption. Although, maybe wouldn’t be so bad so have something like that… Go migrate somewhere, where there’s a lot of jobs, and has lots of nice places. But then again, the corruption and violence is bad… Maybe not bad for people who like the adrenaline. But I bet if Mexico did have a welcome mat, it would have lots of people moving into it. Just not as much as compared to maybe the U.S. simply because it’s not exactly overruled by corrupt leaders, and abnormals ideologist.

                    • DoTheMathAgain

                      Mexico is filled with corruption and crime? That’s the most racist thing you’ve posted against Mexicans. I’m surprised that racist (against non-whites) comment wasn’t removed by the moderator. You think Mexicans are corrupt criminals, Marco? So you want them here why?

                      • Marco

                        soooo you’re thinking I’m racist towards Mexicans because I said, that MEXICO is filled with corruption ? Hmm. Let me see.. Did I say ” Mexicans are filled with corruption ” ? No. No I didnt, that would be racist. Did I say ” Mexico ” meaning the COUNTRY. Yes, yes I did. I don’t think a lot of people would believe I’m making a racist statement. It’s just like saying that China is smart, but has bad pollution.. Oh is that racist against Chinese ? You obviously did not read my comment, or either you don’t understand what racism is. Because you talk of a country in general, does not mean you are being racist.

                      • Marco

                        I can say that the leaders of Mexico, ( several not all ) are corrupt. And that I say because of the crimes seen lately, how impossible you may think of something to happen, be possible. Obviously you can escape the a maximum prison ( el chapo ) without help of the leader… Case hasn’t been resolved yet, but I can assume he could have easily paid off something. C’mon now, he’s a millionaire if not a billionaire. But anywho, I’m not talking like how .. trump did, he deliberately said ” Mexicans are ” meaning the race, NOT the country as whom I’m speaking off. A lot of the leaders have been paid off in exchange for things by the cartels, this is all nothing new, there’s articles about this. So me expressing the truth is not racist against Mexicans ? Hmm don’t think so.. Would be like saying ” America has made some bad negotiations with trade agreements “. Now I’m racist to Americans ? Wow okay lol .. Other than that, I do NOT believe Mexicans are corrupt and criminals, but I do believe MEXICO has a lot of crime, and several corrupt leaders… Is this making sense ? Or do I need to write it in another language ?

                • Renee

                  The illegal alien problem we have is not raced based, except for the fact that we border Mexico, so the greater majority of those coming into our country illegally are Mexican and Latino. Do we have a problem with Canadians coming here illegally?

              • lechuguita

                “but if we removed the non-white population from our crime statistics,
                our crime rates drop to less than those of any other European country.” really then explain why Anchorage Alaska has a higher crime rate then Chicago. BTW 72% white. In fact Anchorage has the highest rape rate in the Nation.

                It is good thing you decide talk about Robert Putnam..unfortunately you misunderstood him. For Putnam conflict is not necessary bad, it produces solutions to problems where sometime a more homogenous group cannot. What Putnam says about the con is this…that there is no cohesion among diverse societies when you compare it to more homogenous societies. There is a less unity in a diverse country, this can be seen in big cites where you have neighborhood belonging to one ethic group or another, but this is something that has been happening since this country foundation..this is not something that is happening now with the Mexicans..THIS HAS ALWAYS HAPPEN and will always happen BECAUSE THIS IS THE UNITED STATES the land of immigrants. Bud, get clue. The high crime rate Putnam says it has to do with poverty and lack of opportunities and a society of have and have nots. These three factor are always present in high crime areas it does not matter the color of the skin.

                “America naturalizes more immigrants as legal citizens each year than any
                other nation on Earth, yet all we get for it is grief and loads of
                national debt.” THANK GOD WE naturalizes more immigrants, what Europe does is a race war waiting to happen. As for that national debt that has to do with tax cuts and unnecessary wars, don’t blame on 11 million people who only represent 3% of the population.

                I am for stopping illegal immigration but in a way that does not violates our constitution or scapegoat Mexicans.

                • Bob Lahblaw

                  It’s because everybody in Anchorage has a gun.

                • Renee

                  3% of the population, yet 19-25% of the prison population

        • Renee

          You missed the whole point in your first sentence. This is not about “immigrants” it is about “ILLEGAL immigrants”. Frankly, you did nothing to redeem yourself dropping the F bomb.
          Do a little research, find out what those 11 million illegals are costing us, and then adopt a few families. Let them move in with you.
          Immigration is a good thing, illegals tromping in through our borders is not.

          • Mainstreeter

            Native American: “Where the Pilgrims illegal aliens? We sure didn’t invite their behinds here.”

            • Renee

              Are you trying to say “were the Pilgrims Illegal aliens”? If that’s what you meant, of course not.

              • Mainstreeter

                Well, my first mistake all year. I stand corrected: “Were the Pilgrims illegal aliens? We sure didn’t invite their behinds here.” I should say thank you Renee, but I get the feeling your correction was not intended to be a nice gesture. You have a good day anyway.

                • Renee

                  Just trying to figure out the question, before I answered it. Don’t read too much into it.

          • Don’t deflect #Marco. You’re an illegal alien support. GO TO THE CORNER NOW!

        • Lawrence Lane

          Hey Marco this country told a whole bunch of Japanese citizens to get what they could carrie and get on the bus, 5 years later they returned back to where they left no homes no business no nothing Yes we can deport these people they are here only thru the good graces of the American people, and we are done!

          • Marco

            And because of the good graces of American people, they won’t be able to be deported as easily, or without a fight. Honestly, don’t see this going down easy if you try to deport 11 million immigrants. It’s a lot, and they are strong. Strong in what they believe, and strong enough to not throw away what they once put on the line trying to get to this country,

            • Lawrence Lane

              Oh please Marco, if it’s a fight they want i suppose a fight they will get and 11 million going up against 300 million really i do not think so and besides it would be in there best interest to focus on changing the govenment in Mexico, they would have a better chance. By the way just what would they be throwing away they are not here to become citizens that is obvious no i believe they would prefer to  be    left alone and continue to take all that they can and in time they will leave! For me that is unacceptable because no uninvited person from another country is going to get prefer treatment before a american.

      • catsrock

        “a person’s status was vested at birth, and based upon place of birth—a person born within the king’s dominion owed allegiance to the sovereign, and in turn, was entitled to the king’s protection.”
        English Common Law, Calvin’s Case (1608)

        “The first section of the second article of the Constitution uses the language “a natural-born citizen.” It thus assumes that citizenship may be acquired by birth. Undoubtedly, this language of the Constitution was used in reference to that principle of public law, well understood in the history of this country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, which referred Citizenship to the place of birth”.
        Justice Benjamin R. Curtis, dissenting opinion, Dred Scott v Sanford (1857)

        “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they resides.”
        Amendment XIV Section 1

        ” …all persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States”
        US Civil Rights Act 1866 (Indians not taxed–ie indigenous people living on reservations–were granted birthright citizenship by the Indian Citizenship Act 1924)

        “A person who is born in the United States, of parents who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of a foreign power, whose parents have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, whose parents are there carrying on business and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity of the foreign power to which they are subject, is a citizen”
        United States v Wong Kim Ark (1898). Wong Kim Ark was the son of Chinese parents who, by virtue of Chinese Exclusion Acts passed in the 1870s and 1880s, were here illegally and not eligible for citizenship. However, given that Wong Kim Ark was born in the United States, Wong Kim Ark was a natural born citizen.
        becomes, at the time of his birth, a citizen of the United States.
        People born in the United States are US citizens by virtue of law and practice going back four hundred years. Texas loses.

        • Sir Chan

          The key phrase is “subject to the jurisdiction of”. A mexican citizen is not “subject to the jurisdiction of the US” – they are citizens of Mexico and are in our country illegally as criminals!!

          • catsrock

            No, Sir Chan,
            All persons, regardless, living in or even just passing through a jurisdiction are subject to that jurisdiction. If that were not the case, then no laws of that jurisdiction would apply to them. Further, being in this country without papers is not a crime. It is a civil offense. Therefore, these people are not criminals.

        • Dee Moo

          AMEN!

      • Marco

        Just stupid

      • Uknowsomuch

        Trump for president. Time to put these liberal pansies and their “welfare for everyone”, “white cops are racist”, “let the poor Mexicans in”, “only black lives matter”, ideology to bed

      • Uknowsomuch

        It’s simple. Want to come to America and obtain citizenship. GET IN FCKIN LINE WITH EVERYONE ELSE

        • Common Sense

          What did you do to earn your citizenship?

          • DoTheMathAgain

            What did Mexicans do to earn their citizenships in Mexico? What does any country do to earn the right to secure their border, besides having a desire to remain a country? What did Mexicans do that gave them the right to strip Chinese immigrants who were legal Mexican citizens of their own citizenship in Mexico? Those Chinese immigrants have had to live in America illegally since the 1930s, and are only now being allowed to go back to Mexico, merely because Mexican illegal immigration has been in the US news so much. We’re talking Chinese immigrants who were already LEGAL MEXICAN CITIZENS.

        • larryroth702

          The Cubans simply have to touch US soil and they are given legal papers. The rest? They touch US soil and have to deal with “Luddites” like you.

      • middleageninja

        Good! It’s about time a state had the nerve to stand up to America’s brain-dead Liberals. What do they think we’re going to do, just keep letting them in until they triple the current population of our country? Latin America is huge; it’s about time Latinos got their collective head out of their rears and fixed their own countries!

      • DoTheMathAgain

        Good for Texas! When will the other states catch up? And where was “mint press news” all this time while our Federal government refused to do its job of deporting illegals, and sued states which tried to do the job for them? What makes the writer of this article think the anchor baby policy was EVER intended to apply to illegal invaders? Americans pay taxes to have the border secured, and we’ve also granted 6 amnesties already in exchange for false promises that we will finally get the secure border we’re already paying for, yet Obama now wants to grant a 7th and largest amnesty without even extending any more false promises to secure the border. All we get are the amnesties, never the border enforcement, which is why America is the first country in history to voluntarily change its dominant demographic. Mestizo is the top racial demographic in this country for children under age 10, is already the top racial demographic of some states like California, and will be the top demographic for America by the year 2042. America will be minority white in 30 years, Britain in 50 years, and the entire UK by the year 2100. Can this racist mint press news name a single non-white country due to lose its dominant racial demographic this century? Japan is 98% ethnic Japanese and they won’t even let the Chinese immigrate there. The Mexicans chased out legal Mexican citizens who happened to be from China at the beginning of this century, and they’ve lived illegally in America ever since, even though they were legal Mexican citizens. Has the racist mint press news ever covered the genocide of white farmers taking place in Africa? Of course not! America naturalizes more immigrants each year than all other nations of the world, COMBINED (millions more than entered through Ellis Island during it’s heyday, even though we currently have record unemployment), and those are just the legal ones. They are primarily from Mexico, but almost all are from 3rd world countries and have nothing to offer us, but everything to gain from us. Illegals cost tax payers billions each year. Rep Steve King of Iowa estimated, after looking at prison records, that illegals kill 12 Americans each day in this country. Kate Steinle is far from the first American killed by an illegal in San Francisco. She’s just the first one killed by a 5 time deportee.

        • Common Sense

          What did you ever do to earn your citizenship?

      • Noe Vazquez

        https://youtu.be/yXeE0wowc68 watch this North Americans were the first Illegals!!!

      • Uknowsomuch

        Ballsy move. I like it. Hopefully other states follow suit

      • Uknowsomuch

        *illegal aliens

      • Karen

        Wait-wait-wait. Those counties in Texas are NOT denying the children US citizenship, they’re merely denying the mothers copies of the children’s birth certificates. HUGE DIFFERENCE. Birth certificates can be ordered through the state’s Department of Vital Statistics. Yeah, it’s a hassle, but the kids are still US citizens.

        • catsrock

          Karen,
          From the article: “In the last year, the state has refused to issue birth certificates to children who were born in Texas to undocumented parents.”
          Sounds like these counties are not issuing birth certificates. They are not recording the births. This is more than a hassle. This is an outrage

          • Dee Moo

            The comments in this feed are nauseating and an outrage

          • Karen

            The county MUST register the births with the state. It’s the law. What they aren’t doing is issuing paper confirmation (i.e., the birth certificate) of said registration. There is NOTHING in the actual registration of a birth that will indicate whether or not the parents are in the country legally. Nope, not even the typical request for a parent’s social security number, which ANYONE can decline to provide.

            If they weren’t registering the births with the state, there’d be no copy of a birth certificate to give or deny to the parent.

      • Ramon

        This should divide the GOP even more than The Trump. What does your pocket Constitution say about this….oh…I left my copy at home.

      • lgm

        Thank you Texas!

      • itsMe

        Bullshit. Most Mexicans look Native. The real Spaniards from the North of Spain look Irish or German, because they are… and as white as a piece of paper….

        • DoTheMathAgain

          Not sure who you are saying “bullshit” to, but Mexicans look “native” because they are a mix of Native American and Spaniard, which is why they also speak Spanish. They are the descendants of the Spanish conquistadors, while Americans are the descendants of the British, who arrived over a hundred years after the Spaniards had taken this land from the Native Americans. Those Americans fought he American Mexican war, which ended through a Treaty: the Treaty of Gaudalupe, through which America purchased this land from Mexico. We also purchased it through the Gadsden Purchase. At a time when most land exchanged hands through war, the British could not have done things more decently. They were even the first race to create reservations for the conquered people, the so-called “Native” Americans who had stolen this land from the European Clovis and Solutreans, and who had fought bloody tribal wars with eachother which kept the Aztec altar constantly wet with fresh blood all year round. Hundreds of thousand of prisoners were killed each day by he Aztecs. The Powhattan tribe also starved the British in Jamestown Fort so that they had to turn to cannibalism in order to survive. The Wampanoags made a pact with the British to use British firepower against their enemies, the Narragansett tribe, which is how we got the first Thanksgiving.

          • itsMe

            HAHAHAHHAHAHA I don’t consider having a supposed relative from Spain 500 years ago a “Spaniard.” IF you don’t have photographs of your parents or grandparents from the NORTH of Spain, you are not part Spaniard. Nice Try though

            • itsMe

              Yuck, and most of those conquistadors are not from the North of Spain, but the Southern and Central part of Spain mixed with Arab and North African… the part the Northern Spain doesn’t want to have anything to do with….

          • middleageninja

            Um, the Spaniards never took most of what is now America, the French had most of it. Who do you think the Louisiana purchase was from?

            • DoTheMathAgain

              Well, I figured my post was long enough, and yet it still managed to go over itsMe’s head, but yeah, diseases can travel even when the initial carriers do not. The point is that most of the Native Americans who died were not killed by the British. Historians believe they were killed by diseases carried by the Spanish conquistadors, and not at all by British firepower. Might want to read about it on PBS, the Smithsonian or National Geographic’s website. The point is, even if you don’t wish to believe Natives were killed by diseases, there is no record of the British killing Native Americans in large numbers beyond the 3000 Native Americans who died on the Trail of Tears, and historians such as Jared Diamond agree that the British arrived on land that was, at that point, relatively empty as the Natives had already succumbed to diseases like smallpox. They’ve known this for so long that there’s even a Peanuts episode about that history, so its amazing how ignorant people can remain.

      • edgar

        celebrate these anchor babies???? free money from my tax dollars… what a shame, they breed a lot to get benefits. while i work hard but less benefits…. lol

      • LuisSac

        Its amazing that those we blame for the chaos of the usa is because of Jobs!? well if all those who came to the usa for jobs AND found jobs? because There ARE jobs!. This is what’s going on? someone is destroying the usa through subliminal ideals and installing hatefulness amongst our Nations populace. Take care and remember? that if your life is on the line? Fk’m. We are starting to hate those less fortunate than us? why is this?….
        Your new President/Earth Emperor

      • CAStr8talk

        Good for Texas. Granting citizenship to anchor babies of illegal aliens was never the intention of the 14th Amendment.

        • catsrock

          Irrelevant. There was no such thing as an “illegal alien” in 1868. The category “illegal alien” did not exist prior to 1924. Previous law had excluded certain categories of people as “undesirable” (refer Chinese Exclusion Act 1882), but these were limited in scope and largely unenforceable
          At least two centuries before there was a United States, British Common Law, upon which our laws are based, established that all persons are citizens of the nation in which they are born.

      • Blaine Smitty

        America is under attack from within by left wing, socialist Democrats, it’s sad when people who entered your country illegally are allowed to get government benefits, work, live, threaten, protest without any kick back from government.

        • Judith A Rodda

          Get off the pity pot and stop crying.

          • william Shimmin

            If Blaine is having a pity party Judith, then you’ve been bathed in marxist arrogance.

            • catsrock

              Blaine is having a pity party.
              People here illegally do not get government benefits, but they do work, pay taxes, and exercise their First Amendment rights. And yes they do have First Amendment rights, granted by the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
              It’s interesting that Blaine includes “live” in his list of things he doesn’t think people he deems “illegal” should be allowed to do.
              It is also interesting how consistently disrespectful and ignorant of the Constitution conservatives are.

      • Billy Wild

        I’m so glad I don’t live in Texas. I just read where almost 1/3rd of the state doesn’t have the internet. What a bunch of backwards hicks.

        • Lefty Leftowich

          But I’ll bet you can’t name where you “read” such BS, right?

        • Judith A Rodda

          What exactly is the interned? I am also glad you do not live here. We don’t need anymore ignorant republicans.

        • James Bulford

          Maybe you should use the internet and read what kind of damage illegal immigrants are causing this problem instead of stereotyping a whole state which is very ignorant.

        • DoTheMathAgain

          I suspect you meant “internet” and I can understand that going without it would make your Mommy’s basement seem less comfy.

        • Dee Moo

          You have no idea. They just tried banning a book from a public library. Still waiting on the Jade Helm invasion… so embarrassing.

      • Maccanudo Mac

        Now the repu-gnants and rep-igs have a new weapon against themselves, they are digging their hole faster and deeper, good luck in 2016..!!!

        • James Bulford

          yeah, we should just let anyone who wants to come into the country and stay…..

          • catsrock

            James,
            Somebody obviously made a mistake when they let your family in and let them stay.

            • James Bulford

              Why, because I want our country to focus on taking care of Americans? Because I do not want to reward those who broke the law to come here?

      • wizowl

        YAHOO!!!!!!!

      • Matt

        Democrat that lives in Texas here. I’m actually ok with this. No visa, then you shouldn’t be here. This will promote not going too the USA too have anchor babies and future welfare recipients. Also less females migrating here that 80% of are raped on their way too the states (their not raped in the U.S. Their raped on their way here. Donald I’m looking at you.) . Plus no dead pregnant females that were unprepared for the journey found in the rio grande or desert that were en route here since that is saddening and shouldn’t happen. Sorry if my opinion bothers or annoys you but even if we Americans have differences in opinion it doesn’t mean we can’t sit with each other break bread and have a discussion about progress.

        • slicktime

          any politician democrat or republican that doesn’t want secure borders and illegals deported is a traitor.

        • Lefty Leftowich

          Does your illiteracy ever embarrass you?

          • Uknowsomuch

            That’s all you can up with?

            • catsrock

              Uknow. . . .
              Why would it be necessary to come up with anything else? Matt can neither spell nor punctuate nor write a coherent sentence. And it’s obvious he’s channeling Donald Trump. Does defending people like Matt ever embarrass you? If it doesn’t, it should.

        • lechuguita

          Matt as a liberal you suppose to be smarter then this. I get where you are coming from but the fact is denying these babies their birth certificate does not denied them their US citizenship. If anything these mother can sue Texas for violating their children constitutional rights.

          This is an issue that can only be solved in Washington not by the States. Right now there is majority GOP in the house and senate feel free to contact them and request an amendment to the amendment but until then it is not the way to solve this problem.

        • catsrock

          Matt,
          I don’t want to sit down with you, break bread, or have any kind of discussion about anything. If I want to listen to Donald Trump, I will listen to Donald Trump. I do not think that I should have to put up with any of his wannabe surrogates.
          There comes a time when it becomes very clear that discussion is pointless and people like you just have to be dealt with through established law and precedent and, if necessary, by outnumbering you.
          In this country, laws establishing birthright citizenship go back to at least 1608.

      • LouieTran

        Writer of this article omitted the word ILLEGAL on their headline. Yeah, it makes a difference.

      • Jared Fullwiler

        good to hear

      • Lefty Leftowich

        The problem is, these peasants don’t just spit out one baby. They just keep spitting them out.

      • larryroth702

        The Republicans want you to get worked up about this issue while they give tax breaks to the rich (so you won’t notice). The illegals can’t get any “Freebies” or us government help. Substitute any other minority for “Illegals” and the real bigoted voice becomes loud and clear.

        • Tree Top

          DId your union feed you this BS or did you think it up all by yourself?

        • Lefty Leftowich

          What about all those states that give them driver’s licenses? No government help?

          • K. Campell

            The states that give driver’s license to illegal immigrants are more progressive, more prosperous and much more advanced than states like Texas and Arizona. People respect America because of states like NY and California which actually make America proud.

            • Uknowsomuch

              More prosperous? Based on what? Blindly giving away drivers licenses to people is yet another example of why our country is in so much debt. Go jump off a cliff

          • larryroth702

            Would you rather have “Unlicensed” drivers on the road (and without insurance)? That’s NOT government help! They pay for their licenses, to drive only, which cannot be used for ID. Stop repeating Trumps drivel. Even his fellow Republicans realize he does NOT speak for the average Right winger.

        • Uknowsomuch

          Except the rich actually contribute to society through job creation while illegals take a handout. If you want a socialist country why not leave a capitalistic one?

          • catsrock

            Uknowsomuch,
            No they don’t. That Supply Side Trickle Down nonsense was discredited a long time ago. Haven’t you been paying any attention? Or isn’t thirty years of economic stagnation, dropping incomes, disappearing “upward mobility”, and an ever increasing wealth gap not enough evidence for you? Do you need another thirty years?

          • larryroth702

            The “Rich” are rich because they don’t create jobs. They make everyone work harder than ever. That’s why we have more “Income inequality ” than ever. Jobs” are ONLY created because the free market needs warrants it. NO “Rich” person ever created a job out of the goodness of his heart.

            • Uknowsomuch

              The rich don’t created jobs? Are you kidding me? People like you are so far gone that you can’t even have an honest conversation. “The rich don’t create jobs”- awesome rebuttal man. I guess we should just take ALL the money from the wealthy and give it to people who are below a certain income level.

            • Uknowsomuch

              Person A has a million dollars and decides to open a business. In order to run the business, person A needs people to help him run the business. As a result, person A hires people and subsequently pays them to perform a service. That’s job creation. Plain and simple, very transparent.

        • James Bulford

          they are not supposed to work here either, but they manage and to think otherwise is naive. Also, as soon as they have a child here that is a legal immigrant, that child can be used to get all kind of “freebies”

          • catsrock

            Yeah but these people you despise do work.
            “Freebies”? Like what?

      • Ben Gagliardo

        its criminal invaders

      • odeis5 .

        It’s about time someone had a big enough sack to start this. This has been one of the most destructive laws EVER to the security and integrity of our country by allowing illegal foreigners to leach off from our government financially to help them raise a child that doesn’t care for or even respect our country but instead keep standing there as adults with their hands out demanding that we give them more.

      • Emil Anghel

        The amendment 14 of the federal constitution refers to American citizens as the entire “supreme law of the land” refers to and not to other national intruders and violators of American borders named undocumented or illegal immigrants. Such individuals are in fact improperly named immigrants since they are just intruders overall and violators of law and criminals in particular. Immigrants are those who enter legally in the USA. As a result, they don’t have such right to claim American citizenship for their children born on the USA territory. Absolutely not. Read the constitution or better try to exactly understand the meaning and the purpose of the Amendment 14, then you will realize who’s right and who’s wrong.

        • catsrock

          Emil,
          English is obviously not your first language.
          Oh and FYI, the phrase “supreme law of the land” is from Article VI of the Constitution. The 14th Amendment very clearly states “All persons born or naturalized in the United States . . . are citizens of the United States.”
          Further, people who enter this country or who overstay their visas are not criminals. To be here without proper documents is not a criminal offense but a civil one. Quite different.
          Emil, your command of English is very poor. It’s obvious that you are incapable of reading and comprehending the Constitution of the United States—or anything else written in English. Go back to school.

          • Emil Anghel

            Catsrock:
            1. My English is not my native language and is not “very poor” as incorrectly and wrongly you claim. In fact, I am totally sure that if the two of us will be subjected to a written English test at any level of knowledge or expertise, you will come in second.
            2. I did not say that the characterization as “supreme land of the law” for the US Constitution is stated in the Amendment XIV. That was your assumption.
            3. I have three years of law school in my background (from mid 70’s) in addition to two master’s degrees in economics (from 1973), so I am competent in understanding and properly interpreting any law including the constitution. In fact, better than the nine justices of the US Supreme Court altogether.
            4. You don’t understand that the federal constitution was drafted and enacted by the “fathers” for the American people in the sense of modern word of “citizens”. The constitution itself starts with “WE THE PEOPLE” meaning exclusively the American people and not including foreign nationals or illegal immigrants. Therefore, every word, sentence, and stipulation thereof is applicable to American citizens (naturally born, or naturalized) or by extrapolation to legal immigrants and not also to undocumented or illegal immigrants.
            5. If you read closely all words and dispositions of the Amendment XIV you would realize that this legal stipulation claims itself that applies to American citizens only, as follows: “No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States”. Undocumented or illegal immigrants are not citizens of the United States.
            5. There are countries in the world where when foreign nationals (being illegally or legally in that country but not citizens) give birth to a child, the authorities only provide them with a birth certificate stating that the child was born in that country but without automatically becoming a citizen by birth (that can be obtained later upon request at the minimum age stipulated to be an adult person).
            I suggest from now on to learn your lesson, get properly informed about every issue or aspect in a disputable matter, then respond to other people. You did not do any of this. Besides, you believe that you know everything when in fact you know just a little or nothing.

      • Jillian walker

        I see a huge lawsuit ! and the immigrants have a good chance in winning.
        Federal Law is going to answer to this one, and Texas is going to pay very heavy on this one.

        • bloozedaddy

          the 14th Amendment was designed to protect the children of slaves…not slimey border jumpers who just want an anchor baby so they can germ onto the USA goodies. The fact that liberals would defile the amendment for their own political purpose makes them just as slimey.

          • Jillian walker

            You are an idiot or a stupid kid. Just watch and wait. Later you’ll find out I told you so.
            Texas done a really stupid move. Texas is going to be sued just like the blacks removed the confederate flag in Carolina.

            • odeis5 .

              Jillian walker
              Given the photo you have, calling someone stupid is like the pot calling the kettle black.
              The only thing you’re right about though is yes there is going to be a lawsuit and given the general feelings of the USA citizens it will be a high likelihood that the end result will be a change in the constitution doing what should have been done decades ago and removal of the birther laws will take place. And if the judge has half a brain he will decide that our right to secure our boarders has a higher ranking than their illegal hides. They want baby’s with US citizenship then they can fill out the paperwork and become legal ones themselves.

            • Lefty Leftowich

              “Texas done a really stupid move”. Do you talk the way you type?

              • catsrock

                lefty,
                Texas has pulled a really stupid move. And Texas will lose. Big time.

          • ildie

            Your statements just shows how you have NO law background. And when you speak on legal issues just based on your personal knowledge with no legal basis, you will lose. However you will gain points on some commentators who are like you. But that is not the point. Government, countries and nations are founded based on laws. And responsible citizens are law obedient. I rest my case.

          • Judith A Rodda

            Texas loses so get off the pity pot you fool.

            • James Bulford

              Actually the whole country loses, but considering Texas has not lost yet, maybe you should stop advertising how stupid you are. If you stay quiet, you will still be stupid, but at least everyone wont know it.

        • James Bulford

          you might be right, and that is a real shame for this country.

        • DoTheMathAgain

          You mean the a lawsuit using American courts, paid for by American taxpayers, regarding Federal law that is supposed to govern the treatment of American citizens?

      • al_literate

        Good for Texas

        • Jillian walker

          No, it’s bad. A lot of state money is going to be lost after they win the lawsuit. It’s a stupid move. Just wait! You’ll remember I told you so.

          • Tree Top

            Did you graduate from high school?

            • Lefty Leftowich

              She’s a third grade dropout and is a transgender.

            • Jillian walker

              Are you still in Elementary?

              • Tree Top

                No. Did you graduate from high school?

          • James Bulford

            It is not a stupid move, win or lose. People are tired of illegals moving in, and the the more that start to fight it the better.

          • al_literate

            So they should just roll over and play dead because some parasite is going to sue. Nope, I say hooray for Texas for taking a stand.

            • Jillian walker

              How courageous of you since it’s not your own money that is at risk to lose. That makes me wonder how much do you really have now.

              • al_literate

                Jillian, so sorry you are stupid. Anytime someone sues a state, IT IS OUR MONEY. Well, at least the money of the taxpayers. A welfare leach like you has no dog in the fight.

                • Jillian walker

                  Gee, Einstein. You finally figure it out?
                  In the first place I was being sarcastic.. duh?

                  • al_literate

                    Uhh, generally when we say “In the first place” we like to have a second, and occasionaly a third.

                    DUHHHH

      • stinger139 .

        For all of you liberals who feel people are disgusting who don’t embrace illegal immigration, go to work like I did for two years as a correctional officer in one of Southern California’s prisons. These are as bad of people as you will encounter anywhere in the world! Many have been deported a dozen times and commit crimes over and over and over. They would kill you in a heartbeat if you go against them.

      • stinger139 .

        You do not give special privileges to those who enter our country illegally and then pop out dull eyed babies like Pez dispenser, so they can get free stuff for life! I’m sick and tired of illegal immigrants and their demands that we provide for them! Every time you see these 23 year old mexicans pushing their strollers down the street, they always have two or three kids hangin off their skirts and one in the oven. Can’t speak a word of English, no education,no husband and no job! Yet we give them free housing,, food cards, free medical and dental and our government doesn’t even treat it’s own citizens this well! Legal immigrants we embrace but not these people.

      • Dannoxx

        The time for crossing the border to get an anchor baby is over. Time to wake up Gringos.

      • pr0n

        It’s not just mexicans doing this, China has a whole “birth tourism” industry, whereby they travel to US soil to give birth just so that their child will have American citizenship…

        • slicktime

          which needs to be stopped. all illegals need to be deported.

        • Jillian walker

          Chinese people don’t get deported because it’s too expensive to deport them.

        • Bruce Bastian

          There’s a BIG difference in Chinese birth tourism. First of all, these people are rich- usually very rich. They don’t want to leach off the system. Why would rich Chinese people want to come here anyway? They live a lifestyle there that most of us can scarcely imagine. Rich Chinese want two things- an American passport, so they can see the world, and the right to buy land. A Chinese passport won’t get you far, and no one in China can own land- it all belongs to the government. Good luck finding an illegal Chinese immigrant on welfare.

      • ildie

        What does the constitution says about children born here in the USA? And what is the SCOTUS interpreations and decision on these children born here? Outside of the constitution statement and interpretation by the SCOTUS are all personal opinion and does not hold legal grounds. Texas is plainly wrong. Texas still wanted for the SCOTUS to interpret it for them again and again just to prove their politics wrong.

        • Brenda

          Actually, children born in America to American citizens are natural born citizens. The 14 Amendment was adopted after the civil war to give freed slaves citizenship. It was not until much later that SCOTUS ruled in a case brought by an illegal alien, seeking citizenship for her border baby, that made the decision that all babies born in the United States were citizens regardless of the mothers status. But, as pointed out birth was not the only condition, a fact that the court chose to ignore. To be a citizen one must not only be born in the U.S., but also must be l”subject to the jurisdiction thereof:”.

          • ildie

            Your interpretation on “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” is just your own personal opinion and does not hold legal basis. You need to read more what jurisdiction is meant in the law. You are just following the definition of jurisdiction as defined by some commentators here. I suggest you read more on the topic of who are considered US Citizens in USCIS guidelines. Their basis are from the US constitution, legal opinion from the proper authorities and from the SCOTUS based on decided cases. The subject is covered under political law.

            • Brenda

              Read the article, it was not my interpretation, it was the interpretation of a Texas attorney. As for the rest of your advise, SCOTUS is not the final authority and many of their opinions have been “redefined” by the court. USCIS are guidelines, they like laws can be rewritten, annulled, or altered. So get off your high

              • ildie

                This just shows your have no background in law, but issue opinions and views that have implications in law and state policies. You do not even know the implications when the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) decide issues that it becomes part of the law of the land. And that everything else opinions are just mere opinion. Unless a law is passed by Congress or the SCOTUS will nullify their previous decisions. Unless the constitution is change and ratified, Jus Solis and Jus Sanguines will define the birth right of US Citizens.

                • Brenda

                  It just goes to show that l those learned legal professionals have managed to screw up the system with their own definitions and personal views.
                  What does is mean?

      • A Christian

        Keep up the great work, TEXAS!!! The author of this article, Melissa del Bosque, would probably also argue that Texas disobediently won its independence from Mexico in the mid-1800’s. Many Mexicans believe that Texas and all SW states in the US are actually property of Mexico.
        Let’s get that story STRAIGHT. Texas wanted NO PART OF MEXICO when it recruited US fighters from many states, mostly from Kentucky and Tennessee, to fight alongside Texans in their life and death battle to gain independence from Mexico. There was no cash involved, and Texas was not “purchased” by the US. Texas fought for and gained its own independence AS A REPUBLIC. Texas and the SW states of current day USA WILL NOT EVER be returned to or be ceded into Mexico.
        The disillusioned Mexicans who think that they can “legally” invade the US and change our culture over to theirs are naïve and misguided. For one thing, the ILLEGAL ALIENS currently in America should be DEPORTED ASAP … because they are ILLEGAL and living in the US ILLEGALLY makes them CRIMINALS. Since Obama is a corrupt criminal TRAITOR in his own right, these millions of ILLEGALS must think that if a US President can get away with disobeying and breaking so many US laws, then THEY can do that also …. especially with the help of the head TRAITOR. Sorry Illegals — the vast majority of Americans will vote and revolt if needed to see you DEPORTED!!!

        • David Villasenor

          woww.. I can see you have a lot of hate in your soul, none the less you claim to be a christian. you should look into the bible and see what are the virtues of a christian. stop being hateful, remember that the only natives in this great country of us are the native americans, or you also think they are illegals? what an arrogant, ignorant person you seem to be. get educated, and please, please, make educated comments about illegal aliens and who is a native.. the way you rant just make you seem ignorant and hateful. please, take a deep breath and keep your calm. remember, you are probably more alien to this country than most of the “mexicans” that try to cross into the us. remember, their ancestors are native americans, while your ancestors probably came from europe.. so, in view of this assumption, i should tell you. get real, and stop hating my fellow “chistian”..

          • bloozedaddy

            hey idiot…ever hear of the Conquest of Mexico ???? Spanish conquistadors….the border jumpers today have Spanish surnames for a reason…they have mostly Spanish blood. Less than 10% of Mexicans are anything close to “native” Aztec or Mayan ancestry. Read a history book sometime.

            • itsMe

              Bullshit. Most Mexicans look Native. The real Spaniards from the North of Spain look Irish or German, because they are… and as white as a piece of paper.

          • Alpha

            That whole argument is tired, David. Worthless, and tired. For the umpteenth time, the native americans migrated over here via the land bridge from Asia. They’re immigrants too. Tell you what- you want to open the floodgates? Let everyone in? Fine– YOU pay for them. Oh that’s right, you don’t have the billions of dollars it would take to do so. That’s where the rest of us come in. For the life of me, I’ll never understand why people are so against immigrants coming to our soil the RIGHT, LEGAL way.

          • Muzturds

            Oh geez… Typical hypocrite baby killing libturd. See, unlike Messyco, this is a country of laws.. We don’t owe them anything.. Why, just because we share a border? The Spanish language came from Europe.. The Indians in the U.S. were preceded by the Clovis people,and there were people here before them.. You low info libturds,, have no shame or morals… You support heterophobes,law breaking illegals,,baby killing.. You enable everyone.. You are a bunch of sniveling appeasers. None of you have any redeeming qualities about you. We should move you all to Messyco.

          • James Bulford

            So tired of that argument. So David, your point is that because of what happened with the native americans, The USA does not have the right to secure its border and decide who comes in or out? Or are you arguing the laws should only apply to some people? The native americans couldnt control their illegal immigrant problem, maybe we should learn from it.

          • A Christian

            And was David’s stand against Goliath considered hateful? David KNEW that God would give him the strength and the ability to kill Goliath — not for personal reasons — but for the survival of his people who Goliath and the Philistines were constantly attacking and trying to decimate.
            We live in the USA, and MANY Latino and Hispanic activists believe that Texas and other states in America were “stolen” from Mexico in the 1800’s. As I have stated earlier, being a native Texan, it was the TEXANS who wanted independence from Mexico …. and the TEXANS DID NOT enlist the US Army to help them fight against Santa Anna and other Mexican Military leaders. Texas remained an independent Republic for YEARS before it finally decided, democratically, to join with the US.
            The ridiculous CHAOS of the current ILLEGAL ALIEN situation — and NO … the ILLEGALS are NOT Undocumented Immigrants … they are ILLEGAL CRIMINALS who came into the US ILLEGALLY and are currently living in the US ILLEGALLY — will NOT be settled until MILLIONS of ILLEGAL ALIENS are DEPORTED OUT OF THE US. PERIOD.
            And if Liberal Democrats and Latino Hispanic activists want to call that RIGHT of America and AMERICAN CITIZENS to DEPORT ILLEGALS out of our COUNTRY, then they are LIARS and TRAITORS. If those Liberal Democrats and Hispanic / Latino activists want to help Mexico and other Countries south of the US so desperately, those Activists should LEAVE the US and go LIVE IN THOSE SOUTHERN COUNTRIES and HELP THOSE PEOPLE to improve their OWN COUNTRY.
            This is the USA, and the ILLEGAL ALIENS are invaders, trespassers and CRIMINALS for entering our Country ILLEGALLY and also CRIMINALLY remaining in America … ILLEGALLY!!! If some people have trouble understanding the laws of the US …. perhaps they should work for El Chapo … since he is very experienced in CRIME and BREAKING LAWS.

          • A Christian

            And ANOTHER thing, David Villasenor, you know NOTHING about me and how many friends I have from Mexico and even ILLEGAL ALIEN acquaintances in the US. I have traveled to Mexico MANY TIMES with several churches to build new churches in that Country, and have friends who are missionaries in neighboring Countries like El Salvador and Nicaragua. Keep your judgment reserved for someone you know more about. Via con dios, and good luck with your own sinful issues.

      • Cathi Korelin

        We need to get rid of the anchor baby law in general. If your parents are citizens or even here legally then you can be a citizen born here. If your parents are not legal then you are not a citizen.

        • Muzturds

          It’s not even a law, it only pertained to children of slaves….

      • Richard R Solberg

        As so typical of SCOTUS they got the interpretation of the 14 amendment wrong for political reasons .. At the time of it’s passing in both houses there is WRITTEN record of the sponsors comments that at no time or fashion was the 14 to apply to nonresident aliens and double for illegal aliens . In any SHAPE FASHION OR FORM !

      • Cali Beach

        THANK YOU TEXAS!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND PLEASE TELL GOVERNOR MOONBEAM BROWN HOW TO FOLLOW IN YOUR FOOTSTEPS. Lets send these ILLEGAL immigrants home where they belong!!
        This was oblunders plan all along, he let these ILLEGALS in here, pregnant and the rest ready to get knocked up so they can pump out their ANCHOR BABIES and stay here on the tax payers dime!!

        • David Villasenor

          MY FELLOW CALI BEACH, YOU SHOULD LEARN HOW TO SPELL BEFORE YOU TRY TO POST ANY COMMENTS ON THE NET. YOU JUST LETTING EVERYBODY SEE HOW UNEDUCATED AND IGNORANT YOU TRULY ARE… “HINT” EDUCATION IS FREE ” YOU CAN LEARN HOW TO SPELL AND USE PROPER ENGLISH. .

          • DoTheMathAgain

            Your Caps Lock is stuck. I’ll read your rant once it’s possible to distinguish each word from the others.

      • Cali Beach

        ITS ABOUT TIME THE US GOVERNMENT DID ITS JOB!! If it was me, Id be packing these illegals onto busses and shipping them RIGHT BACK TO MEXICO to give birth ON THEIR SIDE OF THE BORDER, not here where the rest of us pay taxes to feed and shelter these ILLEGALS. How about we start following the US CONSTITUTION AND LAWS WHICH REQUIRE FOREIGN NATIONALS AND EVERYONE WISHING TO ENTER THIS COUNTRY TO PRESENT THEMSELVES TO THE BORDER PATROL WITH PROPER IDENTIFICATION PAPERS. If you don’t LEGALLY belong here, GO HOME. Ive already lived quite a few decades watching what these illegals do to this country. They come here ILLEGALLY, they figure if they can break the law to get here, they don’t need to follow it once they are here. Our taxpayers are paying for these bastards to fill our jails when they commit crimes, our streets aren’t safe–if they aren’t carjacking people and taking the cars to strip them for cash, they are cutting out the irrigation lines that have copper. They rob our citizens, commit rape and murder, they are allowed to break our laws and stay here–because a few liberal bleeding heart demoncraps want to encourage the illegals to stay here and vote for them. ILLEGALS ARE VOTING IN OUR COUNTRY FOR THEIR OWN ILLEGALS TO BE ELECTED TO SUPPORT THEM. All you need is an address here, no one ever checks on their status, and they are allowed to break our laws while the rest of us pay for it. IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT TEXAS WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THE MEXICANS OWNED IT, JUST GO DOWN TO MEXICO AND SEE THE FILTH, THE OVERPOPULATION, THE CRIMINALS RUNNING THE STREETS, THE THEFT, THE RAMPANT CRIME AND BRIBERY. They cant even keep their own criminals in their own jails–AND THEY WANT TO DO THE SAME HERE!!

      • “They are locking out a huge chunk of the undocumented immigrant community,” says Harbury.
        That’s the point.
        Why would you reward criminal behavior?

      • IVDAD

        At the time the 14th amendment was enacted, it was to give citizenship to the freed slaves, No one planned that the amendment would be bastardized to allow anyone and everyone that wanted to stay in the US would discover having a baby in the US would allow them to stay and take advantage of all the US social programs.

      • Karen E Kimmons

        This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

        “[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word…”

        The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.

        Supreme Court decisions

        The correct interpretation of the 14th Amendment is that an illegal alien mother is subject to the jurisdiction of her native country, as is her baby.

      • Frog Ortega

        Ladies and gentlemen,
        Texas was part of Mexico and was taken away by people that came from other land(s), ‘Illegals – Immigrants”, and their offspring; it’s OK, they made TX a better place to live. All the Mexicans and Americans that were born before and are born now in Texas, are part of the United States. It does not matter what you believe is right or wrong, it will not change. The 14th amendment makes this very clear. In addition, the true Americans are the Native Indians and the Mexicans, they are the originals, and these ethnic groups are not going away. They live in their land. I am a Mexican American, and I am proud of my roots from Mexico; family, culture, education, respect, soccer, boxing, and food. I hate the corruption in Mexico’s politics, their judicial system, their law, their drug cartels, and their kidnappings. That is why I chose to live in TX, USA, but that does not mean there is no corruption in the USA – #1 drug consumer in the world. But still (USA) is one of the best countries in the world that provides so many opportunities to make a better living. I love the USA for giving me these opportunities, so am passing on (to my students) the wisdom and knowledge and other principles to continue the American Dream. Finally, those people that try to divide the country, with their comments and actions, will end up destroying it for them and everybody else. So my advice to those individuals is to educate yourselves and do what is right for your family and the community you live in by passing on these six principles; Wisdom, Knowledge, Love, Peace, Harmony, and Truth. Thanks for reading.

        • slicktime

          we don’t care about you racist.

          • Azmesa88

            NOT RACIST; IT IS THE TRUTH!…..TRUTH IS TRUE AND ALL THAT HAS BEEN SAID AGAISNT THESE TAKERS IS THE TRUE!…WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO BE IN A COUNTRY THAT CAN’T STAND THEM FOR WHAT THEY HAVE TAKEN FROM US?? IGNORANCE!

        • Do you believe in the law?

        • Brenda

          Well, in passing on your wisdom and knowledge you might want to add the part about the role Spain played in the history of Mexico.

        • Azmesa88

          You do not know your history….mexicans are the mix of the native Indians and the explorers that can from Spain to the South Americas….that made mexicans. They were not original to the country; they were ‘made’ out of inner breading. There were not that many Indians as the Aztec and Incas were extinct already! Even so we fought and won the land and paid for the rest so…WE WON! THE GREED AND STUPIDITY IS CAUSING THEM TO BE ALLOWED IN HERE AND WE WILL NEVER BE RID OF THEM- NOR BE ABLE TO FEED THEM ETC. AS WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES, WHEN IT ALL HITS THAT FAN….
          With all the evil that is mexico, it time to attack that country and clean it out so the mexicans will return there and get out of OUR part of the country. THEY MADE IT LIKE THIS BY THEIR INTRUSION AND NOW WE DETEST THEM FOR THE VAGRANTS AND PUSHY OBNOXIOUS PEOPLE THEY ARE….

        • DoTheMathAgain

          I think there’s enough division in your comment that perhaps you live in too glass of a house to be throwing stones. Also, the true natives to America were the Clovis people and the Solutreans. They came here by boat, from France and some other part of Europe. The very term “Native” Americans is a racist term, as the only thing that distinguishes them from Europeans is that they were not humane enough to create reservations for the people they conquered, the Clovis and the Solutreans. Further, the Mexicans descended from the Spanish conquistadors, which is why they speak Spanish. The vast majority of North Americans descended from the British, who arrived over a hundred years after the Spanish conquistadors had taken this land from the so-called “Native” Americans. Mexicans are not “native to America” due to their so-called “Native” American blood any more than they are “the thieves who stole America from the natives” due to their Spanish blood. Further, the vast majority of wars at that time were fought over land, which is why the European lands of ancient Rome and Constantinople no longer exist. It’s also why the Wampanoag tribe made a pact with the British to use their firepower to fight their enemies, the Narragansett tribe, which is the reason behind the first Thanksgiving. You seem to see history in terms of “White people bad, Native American people good” and refuse to acknowledge that the Native Americans starved the Europeans to the point they had to resort to cannibalism, they slaughtered them when they found them, scalped them, kidnapped them, and joined King George in fighting against the colonists (which is noted in the Declaration of Independence), and yes, the Native Americans constantly fought eachother and the colonists over land and treated their prisoners brutally. Stop being so racist and look at history a little more honestly. There is a reason Europeans called them savages. Even the term “cannibalism” comes from the cannibal Carib tribe. Little land on this planet is in the hands of its original inhabitants except possibly the reservations that whites created for Native American tribes, assuming the Clovis and Solutreans never lived there.

      • Ray Pearson

        The Texas Observer was wrong not to include “illegal” in title.

      • jmgrossman

        God Bless Texas!

      • sniperbait66

        Thank God! It;s about time those Illegal SCUM don’t get to ‘game’ our Constitution and abuse our LAWS! It’s about time that we began shooting ALL invaders as they cross the Border illegally.
        We need to get our Marine, Scout Snipers up to the Border to hone their skills at turning the Enemies of America (the Illegals from ALL unfriendly Nations) into dead meat.

        • slicktime

          this is an invasion plain and simple.

        • Dante kaputo

          I cant imagine that the moderator of this article would allow you to propose a hateful commentary like this to propose murdering immigrants! You may not believe it but you are an enemy already of the State because what you are suggesting is very Criminal and I hope Law enforcement is taking a good look at you for the things you wrote you bag of filth.

          • slicktime

            so you support illegals… that’s all you had to say TRAITOR

            • Dante kaputo

              The Country of the USA is now populated by immigrants from all over the World. The invaders of the American continent when they came here did not acquire this land by rightful purchase or peaceful means. They murdered for it and did slavery for it. So the beneficiaries of it have no more right to it than their ancestors did. Now the beneficiaries of stolen land like the guy above is proposing criminal acts, to murder Mexican citizens who cross the border illegally. He may not have been here if they had murdered his ancestry when they came and raided here illegally. Read and learn.

              • slicktime

                i don’t see you complaining about land taken elsewhere. how many indians would rather live in a teepee instead of owning a casino? don’t worry i’ll wait.

      • Blacque Jacques Shellacque

        As usual, the title of the article is missing the word ILLEGAL.

      • Mike Quail

        About time we start to apply common sense to this. I hope the entire country follow suit.

      • clerickolter .

        There is a provision in the 14th Amendment – … and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Under the interpretation it could allow for them unless the parents are here legally with a VISA or similar documentation from the Federal authority here therefore placing the mother or father under our jurisdiction that the babies therefore don’t meet the requirements to become citizens. Which is the parents not having a proper Federal permission to be in the United States and placed under its jurisdiction. I don’t see a problem if the mom is here illegally and all without proper identification to be here its the mothers fault why should Texas issue a birth certificate to them?

        • Azmesa88

          Whatever…it is the stupidity of OUR government that has let this travesty happen…..they are the ones to stop and get laws enforced to get rid of both them and the illegals!

      • Noe Vazquez

        Mexico should have never let the Yanks move in it has turned into a redneck neo-nazi cesspool. at least Mexicans don’t hold churches for forts or yell remember the …… while trying to steal the land!! the only reason you wanted Texas was because the Mexican government had abolished slavery haha funny that 20 years later Lincoln would do the same and stick it up your holes…

        • Shawn Kieffer

          MEXICO HOLDS IT’S OWN PEOPLE IN SLAVERY.

          • easton

            I lived in Oaxaca for seven years, no Mexico doesn’t. And what is with the all caps?

            • sniperbait66

              I see that your tiny little mind was lost in Oaxaca. Pity. You should probably get yourself admitted to the State Mental Institution.

              • easton

                lol. you should make a movie, call it leatherface. it would be a horror movie. I am surprised that they let you stay up so late at the nursing home. It is scary to say but the picture I have of a monkey looks more human than you.
                Come on doggie, bark for me. You are my dog you know. I demand you bark for me.

          • slicktime

            this is another reason why we can’t have illegals here in america… they stay 100% faithful to mexico even though they flee violence and corruption.

            • easton

              This is a lie. What is your ancestry? I can accuse you of being loyal to that over the United States.
              I don’t get this endless bigotry of the right wing.

              • slicktime

                it’s a lie? they won’t come here the legal way, they won’t learn the language, they proudly fly the mexican flag instead of the american flag.

                • easton

                  Of course it is a lie. I know many, many, many immigrants from Mexico. far more Puerto Ricans don’t learn English than Mexicans. Beyond that, English is NOT the official language of the United States. We have no official language because we have so many territories and sovereign Native American tribal areas. Do you even live in the United States?
                  Beyond that, how many languages do you speak fluently? I lived in Mexico for 7 years and in Asia for 7 years, learning another language is very hard. But you wouldn’t know this at all.

                  • slicktime

                    do you listen to yourself?

                    • easton

                      unlike you, I don’t talk to myself as I type. Are you punking me? No way you can be this much of a doofus. Hispanic is a race, asking someone who uses the name of the city that they are from as their moniker where they live, asking if I listen to myself when I am not talking…you are comedy gold.

                      • slicktime

                        i asked you before where do you live? i mean you support lawlessness you won’t mind if i come over there and take everything you own.

              • sniperbait66

                YOU are a LIAR, I don’t get the endless violence and murders from all the Illegal, Mexican SCUM sneaking across our Border.

              • sniperbait66

                @easton: Leave ancestry out of it you filthy PIG! There are those of us who are LEGAL Immigrants. Unlike the Filthy Mexican ScumDogs who want to “jump the Line” as if THEY were better than everyone else in the World, instead of the filthy, line-jumping SCUM that they are.

                • easton

                  Better than you. Dude, please tell me that picture is not of you. It is like something out of Deliverance. How many generations of incest did it take to produce someone like you?
                  Ok, this will get boring so I am out of here. Just know you are my doggie from now to the end of time. Bark for me doggie.

                • johnny covarrubias

                  sniperbait66……you’re so full of bs that it isn’t even funny……God…..I wish I would have had you with me in Nam…….I know that I would have you walking the point wishing you’d step on a “Bouncing Betty”…….It’s people like you who caused problems back in rear with your confederate flag and your redneck ways…….I guess you should follow Mitt Romney advise and deport yourself to wherever your great great grandparents came from and then you wouldn’t feel like you do……a loser……a Proud Marine Vietnam Vet…..70/71

                • David Villasenor

                  hey snipershit, one question, how many times have you been to war? how many times have you seen combat? i can tell you i had my fair share of it. many deployments and untold sacrifices were made by me in order to protect my country and our way of life. I am mexican american, and the way you talk sounds ignorant and prejudiced. so I ask you, how many times have you put your life in danger just in order to protect our country??? please let me know.. I serve 22 years in the us army. with honor, can you say the same? I think not..

              • Kyle

                Evidently there are a lot of things that you don’t get.

            • sniperbait66

              AND bring that Violence and Corruption HERE!

            • David Villasenor

              slicktime, don’t be stupid, that comment you made about people who migrated to the United States stay 100 % faithful to mexico,.. that is completely false, and stupid. you should see our army , our navy, our marine corps, and finally our air force, there are immigrants serving with honor and they are faithful to the United states. so get educated, and when you write a comment, try to be truthful and educated about it. I am a retired military, I served for a period of 22 years, I went to various wars. i was involved in desert storm/ shield. somalia, bosnia, irak and afghanistan. so, tell me dude, how many wars have you serve ? how many times have you put your life in danger in order to protect our way of life?? please let me know..

              • slicktime

                ok maybe 90% the fact is it doesn’t matter. illegals need to be deported.

        • sniperbait66

          @Noe Vazquez, Go back across the Border you filthy La Raza lump of steaming Feces! You Scum Lost a War of your own making to the Texicans!! Yeah you whiner Mex Losers don’t get to claim “NOT FAIR!!!”
          YOU SCUM LOST! Get over it, go back to that schithole you SCUM call HOME and whine in your own feces like the rest of your people!

          • David Villasenor

            once again, ignorant and stupid. you are indeed a very retarded person. are you by any chance the product of incest? because only something like that would account for your lack of decency and common sense. schithole?? damn.. you sure can write.. but what can be expected from a hillbilly? or better yet, from someone who is the product of crossing the same DNA.. meaning your older brother is probably your father. but oh well. it is expected from people like you. hahaahaha

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        • Lee Eddie Whitney

          You are a Dumb A%$.

        • Ray Pearson

          If Mexico is such a paradise, then why are so many of you coming here?

          • Noe Vazquez

            who said Mexico is a paradise? at least it hasn’t been polluted with radiation and we haven’t dried up our rivers.

        • Richard R Solberg

          During the Mexico’s war with Texas … the Mexican citizens for the most part sided with Texas … they saw what a losing system Mexico was and still is . They saw the future as the US of A .

          • Noe Vazquez

            The war was fought for independence not to become part of the United States why do you think it’s called the lone star state..

      • Bob Lahblaw

        If a cat gives birth in a cigar box, does that make the kittens cigars? Go Texas!!! The other states need to follow suit.

        • easton

          that is gibberish. Read our Constitution sometime. We clearly have jus soli and not jus sanguinis.
          You are obviously NOT American since you hate the Constitution.

          • slicktime

            easton where do you live?

            • easton

              lol. That is funny. I would put that at a double face palm because no way you are this ignorant of American geography. I mean, what next, if someone wrote New Yorker as their moniker you would ask where do they live?
              Uh…duh. I live in EASTON. You know, the second place the Declaration of Independence was read, the birthplace of former heavyweight Champ named the Easton Assassin.

              • disqus_rzs2JyJgE6

                Do you ever feel like you’re just beating your head against a wall while trying to teach a dog geometry? Me too.

                • easton

                  this guy is hilarious. I think my dog would learn geometry faster than this guy can learn anything. Down below he called Hispanic a race. A RACE. Because we all know Ted Cruz and Victor Cruz (the Giants receiver) look soooo alike

          • Bob Lahblaw

            Yes, and the constitution needs to be amended to eliminate jus soli as a basis for U.S. citizenship.

            • easton

              you right wingers are so hilarious, you love the Constitution so much you have like 50 different ways you want to amend it.
              Listen. it will NEVER be amended. You righties dreams of a white America are ludicrous.

              • Another weak minded liberal drinking the Kool-Aid. Real Americans can do anything! You may run back to your liberal handlers. You’re dismissed!!!

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