Israel’s Defense Minister Exposes Israel’s Divide-And-Conquer Regional Strategy

In addition to blowing the cover on Israel’s secret dealings with the Gulf states to target Iran, the defense minister expressed Israel’s hope that Syria might be divided up into ethnic enclaves, each ruled by mini-warlords.
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    SEATTLE (ANALYSIS) — Israel’s defense minister spoke with uncharacteristic bluntness recently as he outlined Israel’s geopolitical strategy regarding two critical fronts in the nation’s relations with its neighbors: the Saudi-Iran proxy war and Syria.

    Speaking at the annual Munich security conference, Moshe Ya’alon was even so bold as to blow the cover on Israel’s secret dealings with the Gulf states, chief among them Saudi Arabia. He trumpeted Israel’s inroads into the Salafist Sunni Arab world, Haaretz reported:

    “The defense minister noted channels of communication that Israelis have with neighboring Sunni Arab countries. ‘Not only Jordan and Egypt,’ he noted. ‘I speak about the Gulf states and North African states too. … For them, Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood are the enemy. … Iran is the bad guy for us and for the Sunni regimes. They are not shaking hands [with Israelis] in public, but we meet in closed rooms.’”



    Though the defense minister did not expound upon this point, such a strategy is part of Israel’s attempt to divide and conquer the region in order to maintain its own sway. If the Sunni and Shiite worlds are at each other’s throats, it becomes much easier for Israel to pursue its own interests, which primarily revolve around maintaining a permanent occupation of historic Palestine.

    Ya’alon, a bluff and blustery former Israeli Defense Forces chief of staff, is not known for nuance or diplomatic tact. His presumption in telling a major international security conference that Israel had essentially co-opted the Gulf states was a bit too much for the senior Saudi representative, former security chief Prince Turki al-Faisal. But al-Faisal’s response took the form more of a slap on the wrist than a genuine rebuff. Haaretz reported:

    “Prince Faisal … asked for permission to speak. Handshakes with Israelis have not helped the Palestinians much, he said. Ya’alon was correct with regard to his comments regarding the animosity between the Sunni countries on one hand and Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood on the other … but … by the same measure the Sunni Arab countries are furious with Israel over the occupation and its treatment of the Palestinians. ‘Why should the Arabs feel friendship to you when you do that [to the Palestinians]?’ he asked.”

    Israeli defense minister rejects link between Palestine, larger regional conflicts

    The former general then offered the conventional Israeli response in similar situations: Palestine has nothing to do with developments in the rest of the region.

    Ya’alon maintained there was no connection between the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and current problems elsewhere in the Middle East. He argued:

    “There is a conflict with the Palestinians – but what is the linkage between this and the Iranian revolution? ISIS [the Islamic State organization] has a connection to the conflict? The civil war in Syria or the uprising in Tunisia? The situation in Yemen or Iraq? There is no connection.”

    Ya’alon’s response was unconvincing at best. Think how Jews in the Diaspora reacted when they believed Israel’s existence was threatened just before the 1967 War. Israel’s coffers were filled with today’s equivalent of billions of dollars in contributions. Young people dropped their lives to travel there to help the war effort. Thousands of Jews eventually decided to make aliyah, or emigrate, in solidarity.

    If this was true for Diaspora Jews, why would the Arab world not feel precisely the same way about Palestine? What holds true for Israel’s relationship with the Diaspora holds equally true for the Arab world. Palestine’s continuing subjugation may not be the 800-pound gorilla in the room, but it is a hefty obstacle undermining regional stability.

    No less a figure than Vice President Joe Biden and two of America’s then-most senior generals agreed with such an assessment, warning in 2010 that Israel’s continuing rejectionism endangered the lives of U.S. troops in the region.

    Israeli Defense Minister Yaalon shakes hands with former Saudi intelligence chief, Turki al-Faisal. (Photo: Ariel Harmoni/ Israel Defense Ministry)

    Israeli Defense Minister Yaalon shakes hands with former Saudi intelligence chief, Turki al-Faisal. (Photo: Ariel Harmoni/ Israel Defense Ministry)

    But the wide smiles which graced both the faces of Ya’alon and al-Faisal as they shook hands after their colloquy spoke volumes about the real import of the interaction. The Saudi remonstrance was just for show; the Palestinians are an expendable commodity for them. What worries Israel more than occupation is Iran. And if Israel can help them against Iran, the Saudis will jettison their Arab brothers in Palestine.

     

    Uniting against Iran

    For years, the Saudis have maintained a semi-covert relationship with Israel. They have coordinated strategy in their joint fight against Iran. The Saudis are reputed to have invested $1 billion to support Israel’s assassination campaign against Iranian nuclear scientists and the Stuxnet sabotage operation against the Iranian nuclear program. Top intelligence officials have met secretly in Israel and elsewhere.

    Besides the religious schism between Sunni and Shiite Islam which fuels the rivalry between Riyadh and Tehran, there is an even more potent economic factor driving the enmity: oil. Saudi Arabia is one of the largest exporters of oil in the world, and oil happens to be the only thing the mono-economy has that the world wants.

    The House of Saud also views itself as a regional power and leader of the Muslim world. Now emerging from decades of international isolation, Iran has promised to ramp up oil production to 1 million barrels a day in an already depressed oil market.

    Further, Iran has everything going for it which Saudi Arabia does not: youth; an entrepreneurial economy; technical know-how; a well-educated population; and an openness to the outside world. In regional terms, Iran is on the way up and Saudi Arabia on the decline. All of these factors contribute to stoking Saudi hatred of the Iranians.

    When the Saudis sought to pressure the United States not to broker the P5+1 nuclear deal, they let it be known that they and Israel were prepared to go it alone in the fight; even if it might mean attacking their Shiite enemy.

     

    Egyptian dictator cozies up to Netanyahu

    The Republican mega-donor Sheldon Adelson’s Israeli paper, Makor Rishon, reported (in Hebrew; English version can be found here) that the U.S.-based Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations recently visited with Egyptian dictator Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi in Cairo. During the meeting, the Egyptian leader reportedly told them:

    “[Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu] is a leader with enormous strengths which aid him not only in leading his own country, but to advance the region itself and the whole world.”

    Egyptian dictator al-Sisi meets with Israel Lobby leaders after praising Netanyahu for his "leadership" of the world.

    Egyptian dictator al-Sisi meets with Israel Lobby leaders after praising Netanyahu for his “leadership” of the world.

    These are Israel’s allies in the region: the dictators, the inbred royal families, the oligarchs, the warlords, and the Nusra Front, al-Qaida’s affiliate in Syria. What does it say about Israel itself that it gravitates toward strongman rulers and away from the the region’s democracies and Arab Spring activists?

    The Conference of Presidents’ chairman, Stephen Greenberg, offered el-Sissi the quid pro quo kiss of legitimacy he was seeking back in Washington when he said:

    “I … think it would be very important for the American administration to welcome President Sisi at some point to the United States. That would be a major boost to them.”

    Israel advocates cantonization of Syria

    Defense minister Ya’alon dropped another bombshell in Munich when he declared the Israel views the Syrian ceasefire brokered by Russia and the U.S. with as much skepticism as it views the nuclear agreement with Iran. The defense minister said that the best outcome in Syria, as far as Israel was concerned, was for the country to be divided into smaller cantons ruled by individual ethnic groups. Reuters quoted him as saying:

    Unfortunately we are going to face chronic instability for a very, very long period of time. And part of any grand strategy is to avoid the past, saying we are going to unify Syria. We know how to make an omelette from an egg. I don’t know how to make an egg from an omelette.”

    According to Reuters, he continued: “We should realise that we are going to see enclaves – ‘Alawistan’, ‘Syrian Kurdistan’, ‘Syrian Druzistan’. They might cooperate or fight each other.”

    A few years into the Syrian civil war, I speculated that Israel’s goal was for Syria to disintegrate into small ethnic enclaves, each ruled by mini-warlords. This would defang Syria as a unified nation, disable any attempt to project Syrian power in the region, and disrupt Israeli geostrategic interests. Most important, it would short-circuit Syria’s ongoing determination to wrest the Golan from Israel, territory seized from it in 1967.

    This is a plan which Israel has followed for decades. Prior historical examples include the creation of the Southern Lebanese Army to enforce Israel’s territorial encroachment on Lebanon from 1982 until 2000, when the IDF finally abandoned its incursion. Before that, Israeli intelligence agents facilitated the foundation of Hezbollah as a buffer against rising PLO strength in Lebanon. Israel also aided in the foundation of Hamas, designed to act as a competitor against the PLO. All of these were attempts to weaken an enemy by dividing it internally.

    As cynical as it might be to say this, Israel’s goal was for rivers of blood to flow in Syria. And that’s exactly what’s happened. The more Syrians killed each other, the less they would kill Israelis. Chaos in Syria was Israel’s friend. Leading Islamophobe analyst Daniel Pipes advocated such a view, and it clearly resonated with Israeli military strategic and policy analysts as well.

    It is difficult to see within the morass that is the current Syrian conflict what is the right solution. But anyone who favors the outright overthrow of Syrian President Bashar Assad, no matter how brutal a tyrant he has proven, must reckon with the fact that this is an outcome Israel favors as well. And if Israel favors it, it does not bode well for Syria.

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    • demboj

      You are totally brain dead. They could all be Australian, or South African, American or Canadian, or from any country in the world. Don’t you ever go outside and look at people in the street? I think you should keep your pseudo-Nazi racial typing to yourself.

    • greenmail

      Perhaps the first canton should be the partitioning of Turkey to recognise the Kurdish homeland and then the Kurds could affiliate with their brothers and sisters in Syria or establish a federated relationship with the rest of Turkey.

      After all the Turkey of today is based on a century old imagined Ottoman empire and as modern people we should let go of those childish imaginings.

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    • Helen4Yemen

      https://i1.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/natanyahu-lithuanian.png?ssl=1&w=450
      Benjamin Netanyahu is Lithuanian Jew whose family name was Mileikowsky.
      Netanyahu believes the Mileikowsky’s used to live in Palestine thousands of years ago.
      Yea, right!

      • demboj

        Of course. Certainly. Where do you get this fixation of family names. In ancient times Jews didn’t have family names. Jews were named Jonathan Ben Moshe (Jonathan son of Moses). Most Europeans had the same system until very recent years. To this day Icelanders use this system. It was only when the Europeans adopted the universal military draft in the 1700s that Europeans were required to assume family names so that the authorities could better keep track of military aged men. Jews, recently freed from the ghettoes also adopted family names. Family names among Jews do not prove anything about their ancestry before about 1800. Why don’t you spend even a few seconds learning about things before you try to give lessons?

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Yes, the Ashkenazi were always making up names for themselves to hide their unsavory paths,

          • demboj

            Almost every European last name was adopted at about the same time and for the same reason. You are trying to give it a racist reason and it won’t work.

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              Yep, you were always stealing things… names, pasts, money, land, countries. We know all too much about you evil ones hiding among the Ashekenazi and letting the good ones suffer expulsions and pogroms for the dreadful things you evil ones do.

              How do you live with yourselves? Oh, yes! Now I remember… You’re the “Chosen”! Not all of you, though, only the vicious ones…

              David Ben-Gurion — ”If I knew that it was possible to
              save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and
              only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the
              latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but
              the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.” – David Ben-Gurion
              (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth Ben-Gurion in a slightly
              different translation).

        • Helen4Yemen

          An Arab, a Nigerian, a Kenyan, a Spanish, a German, would feel like they are shaming their families if they were to just get up one day and dump their family names. He is no more ‘Mileikowsky. but he is now a ‘Netanyahu’. The number of Jews who would not give it a second thought before dumping their original names is staggering. In the Arab world, the family name means a lot! It means recognition by the tribe, the name indicates what part of the region a person hails from, it means ancestry, it means family, it means uncle,auntie, grandfather, grandmother, it means IDENTITY! For the Ashkenazi Jew, his name means nothing. As we can now see how the former Jews of Europe have abandoned their original names and picked up their brand new names by just looking up in the dictionary the names of certain trees or flowers in Hebrew. What a tragic people.

          • Cpt_Justice

            What a stupid hateful bigot you are. The Jews of Europe are all descended from their Semitic ancestors & are RECLAIMING their rightful heritage.

            • Helen4Yemen

              DNA has confirmed that the Ashkenazi have no trace of Middle East ancestry, zero, zilch! Here are 10 samples that look almost identical because the Ashkenazi are a closely knit group that had been breeding among its own members for centuries. The Ashkenazi is in fact one of the purest and whitest of any European groups at a stunning level of 99.9% European.

              Name………………………. European……. Middle Eastern
              1) Alex Feinberg…………… 99.8% …………… 0%
              2) Dershowitz DNA………. 99.9% …………….0%
              3) Rabbi Hammerman…,,, 99.9% …………… 0%
              4) Tony Kushner…………… 99.9% …………….0%
              5) Joseph Cohen………….. 99.8% …………… 0%
              6) Bill Maher…………………..99.9% ……………..0%
              7) Neil Gaiman……………… 99.9% …………… .0%
              8) Jill Sobule………….. …….99.9% ……………..0%
              9) Alisa R Doctoroff…….. ..98.0% …………….. 0%
              10) A.J. Jacobs………………99.9% ……………. 0%

              Source:
              https://disqus.com/home/channel/semite/discussion/channel-semite/stunning_ashkenazi_dna/

              • Cpt_Justice

                DNA has confirmed no such thing, lying bigot

                http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-ashkenazi-jews-dna-diseases-20140909-story.html

                “Whitest”? G-d, your lies are actually getting MORE insane!!

              • Cpt_Justice

                What a spectacularly stupid liar you are – at NO POINT does it say “0% Middle Eastern” *PR” “99.9 European” because it says on the actual page “:ASHKENAZI”. And, as you’ve been told every single time you’ve posted this bullshit, that Ashkenazi CONTAINS MIDDLE EASTERN DNA – THAT’S THE POINT OF IT BEING CALLED ASHKENAZI & not just “European”

                But I see your desperation grows apace when you are now escalating you lies to “purest & whitest of any European groups”. It’s pathetic when you have to bank on the hope that people will be too lazy to check the ACTUAL PICTURES at the link you give. How stupid do you have to be to LIE THIS OPENLY?

        • Helen4Yemen

          ARAB JEWS HAD ARABIC NAMES

          TWO EXAMPLES

          1. PAULA ABDUL (FATHER SYRIAN JEW)

          2. ABDULLAH YOUSIF (RABBI OVADIA YOSEF)

        • Helen4Yemen

          Of course. Certainly. Where do you get this fixation of family names. In ancient times Jews didn’t have family names. Jews were named Jonathan Ben Moshe (Jonathan son of Moses).

          https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare-3way400b.jpg?w=990

          The Arab Jews had always Arabic names and European Jews had Ashkenazi Jewish names and Ethiopian Jews always had Ethiopian names. Upon arrival in stolen Palestine, the European Jew begun shedding his real European names and replaced them with any Hebrew names. For example: Michael Bornstein became Michael OREN, and if you look at the alphabet of the new name were derived from the alphabet of the old name. Oren then said he just liked a certain kind of tree that grows in Palesgtine whose Hebrew name is ‘Oren’. Examples of Arab Jews are

          Rabbi ABDULLAH Yousief who later changed it to Ovadia Yousef.
          Paula ABDUL’s father is a Syrian Jew whose name was ABDUL

        • Cpt_Justice

          She is still at it, over a year later. She is obsessed with Jew-hatred & the lies that emanate from it.

    • Helen4Yemen

      https://i1.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/yaalon-ukrainian.png?ssl=1&w=600 Moshe Ya’alon was born Moshe Smilansky.
      He is a Ukrainian Jew who believes
      Arab Palestine is grandma Smilansky’s land.

      • demboj

        Of course it is his land if he is Jewish. The UN ended that argument forever. And the IDF will keep it Jewish, too.

        • TecumsehUnfaced
          • Neutralone

            From the 1921 Haycraft Report, found through pursuing references in YOUR links.

            As long as the Jews remained an “unobtrusive minority” as they did under the Turks, they were not “molested or disliked”; it was only when the Arabs came to believe that they were exercising a “preponderating influence over the Government” that a state of feeling emerged which required “but a minor provocation on the part of a small number of undesirable Jews to ignite an explosion of popular anger against Jews in general”.

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              Non sequitur,

              But it does support the argument that the evil predatory thugs among the Ashkenazi make everyone else miserable.

              • Neutralone

                Your designation of “non sequitur” for my reply is ACTUALLY a non sequitur. Your false interpretation of the quote is due to your distorted, prejudicial view of Jews and Israel.

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  It was a report that reflected the effects of the savage alien ZioNazi invasion of Palestine in ridiculously euphemistic language.

                  Sorry, I’m prejudiced against vicious foreign invasion no matter who does them. Unlike you, I don’t believe that Jewishness gives people special savage invading privileges. Again you show that it is YOU who is the the distorted bigot.

                  • Neutralone

                    The report IS NOT ABOUT the “non existent” effects of the savage alien ZioNazi invasion of Palestine. It does not discuss any such “non existent” savage alien ZioNazi invasion of Palestine.

                    Please try to be a bit more rational, with a modicum of objectivity.

                    • TecumsehUnfaced

                      I’m sorry, but you are delusional, or utterly mendacious, like all ZioNazi psychopaths…

                      What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible. Land bought by the Jewish National Fund was held in the name of the Jewish people and could never be sold or even leased back to Arabs (a situation which continues to the present).

                      The Arab community, as it became increasingly aware of the Zionists’ intentions, strenuously opposed further Jewish immigration and land buying because it posed a real and imminent danger to the very existence of Arab society in Palestine. Because of this opposition, the entire Zionist project never could have been realized without the military
                      backing of the British. The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D. (Over 1200 years)

                      In short, Zionism was based on a faulty, colonialist world view that the rights of the indigenous inhabitants didn’t matter. The Arabs’ opposition to Zionism wasn’t based on anti-Semitism but rather on a totally reasonable fear of the dispossession of their people.

                      One further point: being Jewish ourselves, the position we present here is critical of Zionism but is in no way anti-Semitic.

                      http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html

                      • Neutralone

                        You have again changed your approach. This partial quote of yours does not speak of savage alien ZioNazi invasion. Instead it speaks of peaceful immigration, peaceful land purchases and supposed Jewish intentions, and Arab fears of those intentions. It is an extract of something written in 2001 by an organization named Jews for Justice in the Middle East.

                        You somehow “forgot” the following part of the extract. In particular you left out:

                        “One further point: being Jewish ourselves, the position we present here is critical of Zionism but is in no way anti-Semitic. WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE JEWS ACTED WORSE THAN ANY OTHER GROUP MIGHT HAVE ACTED IN THEIR SITUATION. The Zionists (who were a distinct minority of the Jewish people until after WWII) had an UNDERSTANDABLE DESIRE to establish a place where Jews could be masters of their own fate, given the bleak history of Jewish oppression. Especially as the danger to European Jewry crystalized in the late 1930’s and after, the actions of the Zionists were PROPELLED BY REAL DESPERATION.

                        But so were the actions of the Arabs. The mythic “land without people for a people without land” was already home to 700,000 Palestinians in 1919. This is the ROOT OF THE PROBLEM, as we shall see.”

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Sorry, this white European ZioNazi invasion was never peaceful immigration, except in the mendacious claims of the savage invaders. From the beginning it was a predatory assault on the genuinely Semite indigenous people of Palestine. Alison Weir admits that you savage invader ZioNazis didn’t act any worse that any other savage European invaders, which is certainly no recommendation.

                        The 700,000 Arabs being in Palestine was the root of the problem, because it put the lie to the duplicitous and silly claim of the white alien European ZioNazis that this was open land for you thugs to grab. It doe reveal that that you were nothing but utterly unpricipled thieves, something we all already knew.

                        Funny the way you tried to elide this, “What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as
                        much as was possible.”

                        Instead, you tried to prevaricate Weir’s condemnation of your ZioNazi thuggery into a recommendation. Hilarious!

                      • Neutralone

                        You seem to be even more confused than usual. Your quote is from material written by Jews for Justice in the Middle East, NOT Alison Weir. The text you cited MAKES NO MENTION of “savage”, “ZioNazi”, invasion, or any of the other childish, inflammatory descriptives you favor.

                        You quote their theory about Zionist objectives as if it were Gospel truth and not subject to difference of opinion. BUT the article DOES refer to Arab FEARS as the basis for their violence and disquiet, and NOT retaliation for Zionist violence.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Typically stupid failure to recognize who wrote for that site.

                      • Neutralone

                        I am afraid you are completely hopeless. I leave you with your delusions and to the care of God, because “God takes care of babies and idiots.”

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Next time you’re tempted to use that disgusting whine about being desperate, remember this…

                        David Ben-Gurion — ”If I knew that it was possible to
                        save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and
                        only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the
                        latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but
                        the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.” – David Ben-Gurion
                        (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth Ben-Gurion in a slightly
                        different translation).

                        The vile ZioNazi leadership was using the Holocaust as a recruiting tool. What other evil stuff were they doing? You little ZioNazis are just expendable tools in the Zionist money making enterprise.

                      • Neutralone

                        You stupid, pea brained little toad of a Jew hater.

                        David Ben Gurion was a giant of the 20th century. He dedicated his life towards establishing a homeland for the Jewish people in their historical Holy Land. He worked tirelessly at great personal and family sacrifice. To reach this goal he was willing to make MANY SACRIFICES, including, as the quote says “some Jews”, for the greater good of ALL Jews. He was willing to accept only part of the land offered, including the 1937 partition and the 1947 partition plan. Half a loaf is always better than none. Unfortunately, the Palestinians do not seem to grasp this simple maxim.

                        The Holocaust was NOT a game. It was not a way to benefit Ben Gurion personally, or to benefit any other Zionist personally. Of course Ben Gurion and other Zionists “used the Holocaust as a recruiting tool”. Only a moron would not use the Holocaust as a recruiting tool. One major aim of Zionism was for Jews to have their own country, Israel, to control their own destiny, to avoid future things like the Holocaust and anti-Semitism in other countries

                        There is NO Zionist money making enterprise, except in the minds of pea-brained Jew haters like yourself. That is why I do not expect you to recognize this fact.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced
                      • Neutralone

                        100 Most Important people of the 20th century.

                        http://www.ranker.com/list/time-magazine-100-most-important-people-of-the-20th-century/theomanlenz

                        David Ben Gurion is number 10 on the list.

                        Get over it, you stupid, pea brained little toad of a Jew hater.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        David Grun and Adolf Hitler, brothers on the same list of evil infamy!

                      • Neutralone

                        They both made history, for very different reasons. They are remembered for very different reasons. But they both did make history. Which is more than can be said about you and I.

                        Ben Gurion was the father of his country, equivalent to George Washington and Mahatma Gandhi. Your hatred and negative views will have no effect on the truth, or on his place in history.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        You yammering admiration for a savage war criminal who drove 3/4 million people from their homes and bulldozed over 600 of their villages and towns demonstrates you to have reached lowest depths of Zionist dementia.

                      • Neutralone

                        Your continuing blind, unthinking, illogical hatred of Jews and Israel appear to be resistant to all facts and to reason.

                        You are a disgrace to the real Tecumseh. He is probably turning over in his grave at the thought that such a vile, cowardly excuse for a person as you has appropriated his memory.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced
                      • Neutralone

                        Bye, Again.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I really don’t know for sure. Maybe Tapatio would be a better one to put this question to.

                        I think that not having ancestry in Palestine is a new idea for a lot of Ashkenazi and a hard one to deal with.

                        Here’s an article I just ran into that you might find interesting or useful…

                        https://richardedmondson.net/2016/03/10/zionist-desperation-and-the-coming-societal-pivot/

                      • Cpt_Justice
                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Repeating lies doesn’t change things. All Ashkenazi Jews are descended from the same place, too. Which you knew before you posted this racist bullshit.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        You mean from Ur (Iraq) and not Palestine. Yes or no?

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        a) First one, then the other, as everyone who is not a lying bigot knows/acknowledges.

                        b)”Palestine” is what the Romans called Israel to punish the JEWS who owned it before the Romans conquered it FROM THE JEWS..
                        Thanks for bringing it up that ANY “Palestine” BELONGS TO JEWS.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Exodus 15:14 The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.

                        Isaiah 14:29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent’s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.

                        Isaiah 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.

                        Joel 3:4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head.

                        (King James version)

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        OMG – this has got to be the DUMBEST thing you’ve EVER Done1 (OK, except maybe that ‘whitest” garbage).

                        The KING JAMES BIBLE? You’re actually going to use THE KING JAMES BIBLE – oneo f the most ridiculously badly (deliberately so) translations ever made – to tell Jews what is in TORAH?

                        You are beyond pathetic.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Jabotinsky 1923 -The Iron Wall: “I flatly reject this assessment of the
                        Palestinian Arabs. For the Palestinian Arabs this goal is inadmissible.
                        This is in the nature of things. To change that nature is impossible.
                        Palestine would still remain for the Palestinians not a borderland,
                        but their birthplace, the center and basis of their own national
                        existence. Therefore it would be necessary to carry on colonization
                        against the will of the Palestinian Arabs, which is the same condition
                        that exists now.”

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Zuheir Mohsen (1936–1979) was a Palestinian leader of the Syria-controlled as-Sa’iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979.

                        Quotes

                        The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem.
                        However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will
                        not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

                        James Dorsey, “Wij zijn alleen Palestijn om politieke reden”, Trouw, 31 March 1977.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Note: “fellahin” is referring to the Palestinian farmers.

                        David Ben-Gurion – 1918: “The fellahin are not descendants of the Arab conquerors, who captured Eretz Israel and Syria in the seventh century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local population. Nor did the Arabs go in for settlement.”

                        David Ben-Gurion- 1918: “Even in their former habitations the Arabs did not engage in farming…their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious and material: to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes…the Jewish farmer, like any other farmer, was not easily torn from his soil…Despite the repression and suffering the rural population remained unchanged.”

                        Itzhak Ben-Zvi – 1929: “The great majority of the fellahin do not descend from the Arab conquerors but before that, from the Jewish fellahin, who were the foundation of this country before its conquest by Islam.”

                        Benny Morris: “The vast majority of Arabs who live in Palestine originated in Palestine, ‘originated’ meaning they have been living in Palestine for hundreds of years.”

                        Translation: The Arabs did not expel the natives of the land and take their place, they did not settle on the land, they were there only to convert the people into Islam, therefore, the current Palestinian population are the descendants of those who were already there before the arrival of the Arabs. The Palestinian Jews (who later converted to Christianity and then to Islam) never left their land nor were they replaced by the Arabs. The Arabs did not come to settle on the land but rather “to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes”. The Jewish farmers were attached to their land. “was not easily torn from his soil” and the current Palestinians are in fact the descendants of the people who were already there on that land before the arrival of the Arabs.

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        I love the total lack of provenance for this crap – AND that NONE of it proves what you’re pretending it does!

                        NOTE; “fellahin” ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT MEAN “PALESTINIAN”, as the quote I posted (with provenance) PROVES – and YOU CONTRADICT THIS YOURSELF when you quote Itzhak Ben Zvi. If THAT quote is correct, then THE ENTIRE AREA IS JEWISH & YOUR SO-CALLED “PALESTINIANS” ARE LATER INVADERS.

                        There was NEVER a “country” of “Palestine” that was NOT JEWISH, as per the Romans – and even your stupid attempt to use the uneducated MIS-TRANSLATIONS of Torah PROVES that.

                        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/584615/posts

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Well, since you;re going to post these singular random bits of crap, let’s force feed you some unpleasant facts

                        http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/study-finds-no-evidence-of-khazar-origin-for-ashkenazi-jews/2014/02/23/

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        https://wordpress.com/post/europeanjews.wordpress.com/3054

                        Poverty in “Israel” … imagine without the billions from the US … imagine … ?

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Dodge noted, concession noted. THANK YOU!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Insults are indicative of one who has no counter argument

                        -You stupid
                        -pea brained
                        -little toad
                        -Jew hater.
                        -pea-brained
                        -Jew haters

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        And lies are indicative of one who has no facts.
                        1) “Ashkenazi” does NOT mean “purest & whitest of Europeans” – it means “Jews who are absolutely not pure European, due to the specific Semitic ancestry we have.”

                        2) There are NO reputable studies that say Ashkenzi Jews are NOT Semitic. ALL reputable studies state the fact that Ashkenazi Jews are descended form the Middle East.
                        3) Jew-hater should be an insult but you revel in it

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        https://i0.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/oreilly-dersh.png

                        Are they both equally European and neither has any genetic ties to the Middle East since both are at 0%.

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Wow, You get more insane as time goes by. It’s not just the pathetic cherry-picking it’s ignoring what words actually mean!

                        ASHKENAZI: Jewish person from Europe OF SEMITIC DESCENT

                        How mentally ill do you have to be that you keep pretending that it doesn’t mean exactly what it means?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Southern European have substantial levels of Middle East ancestry.
                        The Ashkenazi has zero!

                        http://i58.tinypic.com/9uqjnq.jpg

                        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-semite/italian_greek_types_of_dna/

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        STOP LYING; ASHKENAZI ***MEANS** “SEMITIC ROOTS”

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        https://i2.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/dershowitz-pbs-dna1.png

                        Do you see what I see?

                        1) Europe is highlighted to indicate where Dershowitz’s 98.5% Ashkenazi-DNA is located. It is in Poland, Hungary, Austria, Slovakia …, is it not?

                        2) Africa is highlighted to indicate they found <0.1% African ancestry.

                        3) Asia is highlighted to show where his 0.1% ancestry comes from.

                        4. The Middle East is totally left blank because they found no trace of ME ancestry – nothing – zero!

                        5. What is your understanding why the Middle East is totally blank for Dershowitz?

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Yes, Ashkenazi. As in DESCENDED FROM SEMITIC PEOPLE.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        As FROM UR-IRAQ?

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Can you get any dumber? Good grief.
                        WHERE DO YOU THINK ABRAHAM CAME FROM?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        https://i2.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ashkenazi-dna-91-9.png

                        The Ashkenazi DNA is located in Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Austria, is not? None of these countries are in the Middle East, right?

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Stop lying. “Ashkenazi DNA” ORIGINATED IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        https://i0.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/alan-dershowitz-999.png

                        Explain why the Middle is totally blank – not a trace – zero?

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Explain why you are LYING, because there is NO section that says “Middle east’ EXCEPT where it is CONTAINED in the word “ASHKENAZI”, which means “OF SEMITIC (MIDDLE EASTERN) DESCENT”.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        http://blogs.ancestry.com/techroots/files/2014/03/Ethnicity-all-regions-map.png

                        This is from ancestry dot com
                        “European Jewish” is in Europe
                        Press on the picture to get a bigger view.

                        Note:
                        Ancestry calls it “European Jewish” and 23andme “Ashkenazi”

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Note: it doesn’t matter what Mormon enterprises call it. Ashlkenazim ARE SEMITIC

                        http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/.premium-1.626156

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Yep, “Ashkenazi”. As in “SEMITIC”, “MIDDLE EASTERN”.

                        For crying out loud, look at him – or get someone honest to describe him to you.
                        Gaiman’s SEMITIC FEATURES are why YOUR IDEOLOGICAL FORBEARS sent MY RELATIVES to the gas chambers!

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        I love how your cherrypicking is getting more desperate & even less honest. This could be ANYONE!
                        But, the data, as always, shoots down your racist antisemitism:

                        http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v466/n7303/abs/nature09103.html

                        ” Historical evidence suggests common origins in the Middle East,
                        followed by migrations leading to the establishment of communities of
                        Jews in Europe, Africa and Asia, in what is termed the Jewish Diaspora”

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Please note how pathetically you continue to lie

                        ASHKENAZI MEANS MIDDLE EASTERN – that’s why there’s no other slot for “Middle eastern” on Dershowitz’ test, BECAUSE IT’S ALREADY FILLED IN.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        How many times are you going to pretend that “Ashkenazi” does NOT mean “Semitic”, when it does?

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Your ideological forbears, because they ordered BOTH to the ovens.

                        BUT, if we want to discuss blonde invaders in the Middle East, I am all for booting these out: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b0b3c6e316457d200eb9ec56eec7d3ef1084403f921053d0801887d7574fdb54.jpg

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Your dishonesty knows no bounds.

                        1) If Tony Kushner had taken the SAME test SHE had, where there were DIFFERENTLY named categories, it would have DIFFERENTLY NAMED RESULTS for him.

                        2) You are LYING about Kushner’s test saying “no Middle East ancestry” because
                        a) THERE’S NO “MIDDLE EAST” SLOT ON HIS TEST
                        b ASHKENAZI MEANS MIDDLE EASTERN

                        Thank you for continually exposing yourself in this fashion.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Cherrypick as many examples as you can scrounge up; the data will always be against you

                        http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v466/n7303/abs/nature09103.html

                        ” Historical evidence suggests common origins in the Middle East,
                        followed by migrations leading to the establishment of communities of
                        Jews in Europe, Africa and Asia, in what is termed the Jewish Diaspora”

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v466/n7303/abs/nature09103.html

                        ” Historical evidence suggests common origins in the Middle East,
                        followed by migrations leading to the establishment of communities of
                        Jews in Europe, Africa and Asia, in what is termed the Jewish Diaspora”

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        As always, since “ASHKENAZI MEANS SEMITIC”, your racist antisemitism is the most stupid racism on the internets today! Congratulations!

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Cherrypicked data does not negate unpleasant (for you) facts:

                        http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v466/n7303/abs/nature09103.html

                        ” Historical evidence suggests common origins in the Middle East,
                        followed by migrations leading to the establishment of communities of
                        Jews in Europe, Africa and Asia, in what is termed the Jewish Diaspora”

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Don’t you have even one DNA result for any
                        Ashkenazi to show us that he scored even 1%
                        Middle East ancestry? Where is it? Show us.

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Don’t you understand how stupid you look when you openly lie about what’s in those results by pretending that “Ashkenazi doesn’t mean Semitic”, when it absolutely does?

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Re-posting links to already debunked lies that you keep telling about ancestry only prove just how dishonest you are.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Alan Dershowitz = 99.9% European
                        Bill O’reilly = 99.8% European
                        Who is more European?
                        ………………………………
                        Alan Dershowitz DNA
                        Ashkenazi……………….. 98.5%
                        Southern European…… 0.4%
                        Balkan……………………… 0.1%
                        Broadly European ……. 9.2%
                        East Asian………………… 0.1%
                        Total European ………. 99.8%
                        Middle East …………….. 0.0%
                        Bill O’reilly DNA
                        British Irish ……………. 87.8%
                        Scandinavian ………….. 1.7%
                        Iberian …………………… 0.9%
                        Finish……………………… 0.2%
                        Broadly European……. 9.2%
                        Unmatched ……………. 0.2%
                        Total European …….. 99.8%
                        Middle East ……………. 0.0%

                      • Cpt_Justice

                        I can repeat the bit about you posting lies every single time you psychotically re-post them.

                        REPEATING DEBUNKED LIES DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE

                        DERSHOWITZ IS NOT JUST “EUROPEAN”.
                        HE IS ASHKENAZI
                        WHICH MEANS SEMITIC.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Cpt_Justice

                        Cherrypicking your bigotry only confirms it

                        http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/.premium-1.626156

                    • TecumsehUnfaced

                      Look! He mendaciously up-voted himself. Typical ZioNazi!

                      • Neutralone

                        Way to change the subject, you hypocritical coward.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Ha, ha, you forgot I already answered, so you could make a spurious accusation to draw attention from the fact that you are an obvious cheat, like all ZioNazi thugs.

                      • tapatio

                        No, Jew-boy, it merely illustrates the tackiness and self-serving attitude of the Jew.

            • Helen4Yemen
            • Helen4Yemen

              Never say ‘Jews’ naked without an adjective. Because I have no idea if you are talking about the Yemeni Jews or Iraqi Jews or Nigerian Jews. Since world population today is 90% Ashkenazi, please always say ‘European-Jews’ or ‘Ashkenazi Jews’. Zionism was 100% about Euro-Jewry.

              • Cpt_Justice

                Your lies are growing ever more desperate. Must be because even you know how lost your bigoted cause is.

    • Neutralone

      Does anyone else ever wonder WHY Richard Silverstein seems to have made it his life’s work to search out opportunities to bad mouth Israel?

      Does he ever write negative articles about any other country or entity? For example, does he write negatively about Syria, About Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Hezbollah, Hamas, ISIS, Al Nusra, Al Qaeda,Turkey, Iran, Russia, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Boko Haram, China, Belarus, or other monsters? Does he ever write positive, or even neutral articles about Israel?

      I would appreciate feedback from anyone who has any answers to my questions.

    • Helen4Yemen
    • Helen4Yemen

      Here is Ralph Schoenma

      Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu (real name: Mileikowsky) is descendant from people who have no relation to Palestine, historic or other, because Ashkenazim or European Jews such as Mr. Netanyahu or ourselves for that matter are in fact descendants of the Khazars, an 8th and 9th century empire that converted to Judaism at that time from which European Jews are descended. Indeed, as I have often discussed, if one wanted scientific data which demonstrates the ethnic origin of European Jewry, here is the point: European Jews are susceptible to a genetic condition known Tay-Sachs disease, it is analogous to what African Americans suffer, sickle cell anemia. What is interesting about this is that only European Jews are susceptible to this genetic trait. No Semitic people is. That means none of the Jews form the Arab East, Yemen or Iraq or North Africa or any of the areas of the region, because like their Arab brothers and sisters as are the Arab Jews. The point is very ironic as we have often made it and I think we should take a brief moment to emphasize this – who do you think was converted to the prostzling and dynamic Islamic religion in the 6th century? The indigenous inhabitants. They were Jews, they were non-believers, they were people of various local religious other views, animist views. The irony of all this is the Palestinian people have greater genetic link to the Jews of the region by descent than certainly the Ashkenazim who have no relation to the region whatsoever. So this is essentially a racist and pseudo scientific attempt historically to lay claim to an area and to translate their god into a real estate agent. There is no remote scintilla of evidence to establish a relationship between Jews in the world today and this region. None whatsoever, because the Jews of the period were expelled to Babylonia and the remaining tribes were entirely assimilated to the populations of the area. And indeed they are the antecedent of the Palestinian population, they have a greater relationship to the Hebrews of the early period than any Ashkenazim, none whatsoever by way of punctuating the irony and the point about the nature of a colonial settler project as an instrument of imperial conquest.

      • demboj

        False. Genetic testing proves there is no connection between Jews and peoples from the Khazars lands. Instead, the tests show the Jews and Palestinian Arabs are the closest relatives of both groups. Your allegations are pure gibberish.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Actually, you are being mendacious about this. The comparison was between Arab Jews and Arab Muslims, who are both Semites, unlike the totally unrelated white European Ashkenazi.

          • demboj

            Wrong. On all points. Give me the name of a currently tenured member of any accredited American university genetics faculty who will join this conversation and repeat what you have written in this conversation.

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              I don’t have to It is thoroughly accepted that the Ashkenazi suffer from 20 peculiar genetic diseases, entirely different from the 18 such diseases suffered by Semites. Ergo, you are entirely different people. Look it up.

              Besides, you are trying to put the cart before the horse. You have to prove that the Ashkenazi rose out of Palestine, something you can’t do.

              • demboj

                I have looked it up. There is no credible source or individual in any responsible position who is willing to say that the incidence of diseases among Jews prove that Ashkenazim are a different people than Sephardim. Neither Sephardim nor Ashkenazim have ever said they are a different people. There is even less evidence that the Palestinians are a separate people from other Arabs. By your argument they should therefore not have a right to a homeland.

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  And you discovered that you have absolutely no evidence that the Ashkenazi were ever derived from Palestine with the only evidence being strongly against it.

                  So then to compensate, you insanely attack the indigenous population that had been living for millennia.

                  When you’ve got a vicious white European colonialist invasion to defend, you’ve got to get a little bit silly, don’t you?

                • Helen4Yemen

                  [There is even less evidence that the Palestinians are a separate people from other Arabs.]

                  Woah! Hold it! Time for Logic 101! Say what? What kind of evidence? The Arabs are not a genetic group. An Arab is anyone whose main language is Arabic. End of story! The Sudanese are Arabs as are the Palestinians, the Yemenis and so on. The Arabs are united by a common language, history, customs, traditions and so on that makes a people. Now let’s look at the ‘Jewish people’ with no common language (if you consider Hebrew-from-the-graveyard), no common traditions, no common history and so on. The Yemeni Jew always identified as Yemeni and he looks like the Yemenis.

                  Go ahead and make a fool of yourself and tell me the two Jews on the picture are related.
                  https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare23.jpg?w=990

                • Helen4Yemen

                  https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/side-by-side-8.jpg?w=990

                  [Neither Sephardim nor Ashkenazim have ever said they are a different people.]

              • Helen4Yemen

                {18 such diseases suffered by Semites.}

                There are no ‘Semitic diseases’. Please see my explanation on same earlier on the link below

                http://www.mintpressnews.com/israels-defense-minister-exposes-israels-divide-and-conquer-regional-strategy/214046/#comment-2525798294

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          If all the Khazars were driven from Khararia, why would there be? Why did the Ashkenazi show up central and eastern Europe with all their weird and peculiar genetic diseases right after the destruction of Khazaria?

          • demboj

            Who cares what happened to the Khazars? Who can prove they ever existed? They left no written records. That doesn’t sound Jewish to me. But there is a lot of solid proof that the Ashkenazim are indeed Jewish no different than the Sephardim, who are actually the descendants of Spanish Jews evicted from Spain in 1492. That is not enough time for them to be a separate race of people from the Jews who went to northern or Eastern Europe. By the way, the diseases prevalent among Jews have always been prevalent among Jews and they showed up in Eastern Europe when the Slavic rulers invited the Jews to come to their lands in the Middle Ages.

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              So then you have to admit that your claim of Ashkenazi having Semite ancestry is equally unsound.

              The Jews evicted from Spain went to North Africa with a different set of genetic diseases than the Ashkenazi exhibited in the rest of Europe. So it seems like you just sank your claim of Semitic heritage for the Ashkenazi. Way to go! I love seeing you blunder into destroying the foundations for your vicious racist attacks on the Semites of Palestine.

              • Helen4Yemen

                The genetic diseases deal only with Ashkenazi Jews. Attempting to introduce genetic diseases from the Arab Jews (who are in fact Arab) are just trying to confuse the issues.

                1. The Arab Jews have EVERYTHING in common with their Arab brothers and sisters EXCEPT for religion.

                2. The Arab Jews have NOTHING in common with the European Jews EXCEPT for religion.

                Does the Euro-Jew have a biological link with the Arab Jews? Side-by-side pictures

            • Helen4Yemen

              [Who can prove they ever existed?]

              Lots of historians and lots of documents. On the other hand, one of the claims for a foreign-alien European Jewry’s claim is that the white-Jew lived as slaves in Egypt and they were set free to go, hocus…pocus…right? You want real real estate on hocus-pocus and yet you are trying to challenge real history?

        • Helen4Yemen

          [the Jews and Palestinian Arabs are the closest relatives of both groups. Your allegations are pure gibberish.]
          _________

          So do you mean these two are cousins?

          https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare112.png?w=990

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            This clowns claims that he is unable to tell. What religious fanaticism does to people!

            • Helen4Yemen

              Refusing to accept that Ashkenazi Jews and Arab Jews are totally different folks would deny them anything that they think makes them special. It would deny them their claim to the land of Palestine, it would deny them the status of being ‘the Chosen’, the most genuine Jew. Here is a quote from Shlomo Sand about that fear:

              Shlomo Sand interviewed by Haaretz

              Why do you think the idea of the Khazar origins is so threatening?

              “It is clear that the fear is of an undermining of the historic right to the land. The revelation that the Jews are not from Judea would ostensibly knock the legitimacy for our being here out from under us. Since the beginning of the period of decolonization, settlers have no longer been able to say simply: ‘We came, we won and now we are here’ the way the Americans, the whites in South Africa and the Australians said. There is a very deep fear that doubt will be cast on our right to exist.”

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Sand certainly has that right. That’s why they will descend into utter nonsense and incoherency than admit that they have no genuine evidence of any past in Palestine. We might as well drive them there repeatedly for all to see. Your presentations are invaluable. They got this “demboj” babbling admission that he couldn’t tell Negroes, Caucasians, and Chinese apart by photographs.

                On a darker thread we are ultimately battling the same enemy. The same dark power elites that control the white Ashkenazi thug invaders of Palestine are the same that control the American Deep State and international financial structures. Our chances are not good. historically or by present circumstances. My guess is that our best hope is working to get people informed and organized. But we must remember that we are up against enemies that will do anything.

                • Helen4Yemen

                  Yep, more and more people are waking up to their delusion, more and more people have awoken to realize that the Euro-Jew is just a convert. The word ‘Khazar’ is now more widely known than ever before.

                  And I would like to say thanks for your unwavering support of the Palestinian cause.

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    You’re welcome, but I feel that the circumstances dictate that support.

                • Helen4Yemen

                  [he couldn’t tell Negroes, Caucasians, and Chinese apart by photographs]
                  _________

                  I thought the word ‘negro’ is considered offensive and not used in normal communications? This is the second time that I have seen you use this word. Can you explain?

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    You’re right. Although technically correct, it’s not a good idea. It’s too close to another word that definitely is a racial slur.

                    • Helen4Yemen

                      What do you mean by ‘technically correct’? No, please, the word itself is a slur. If you are an American and at a time when America has its first black president, it is puzzling to me that there are folks out there in this day and age who still cling to outdated and offensive terms to refer to other members of society. I have always hated the term ‘African-American’ from day 1. Just hated it! It appeared fake, black Americans are not African-Americans in the same way one is a Lebanese-American because their connection to Africa is no more; they have no familial or cultural ties to the content. I hope you will understand my objection to the use of this derogatory word. As I mentioned to you yesterday, I do appreciate anyone who is in solidarity with the Palestinian cause, but if you care about the Palestinian pight, then I would expect of you (or anyone else) to be equally caring about other disadvantaged minorities like in this case black Americans. I do not want to dwell on this matter because this only makes my enemies feel like I am giving them is a cause for them to cheer.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        For pity’s sake, Helen, you’re confusing “Negro” and “n*gger”. So Caucasian and Chinese are also slur words? Please stop imputing nonsense to me.

                        Note that Foreign Policy Journal has determined your material to be racist. Are they correct in banning you as racist? I don’t think so, but Jeremy Hammond does.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        [Note that Foreign Policy Journal has determined your material to be racist]
                        1.Can you provide me with a link please? I do not remember what topic it was that I participated that day. I was not aware that I was banned? How is it that you know that? Please kindly respond.

                        2. I need to move on beyond ‘Negro’. If you are comfortable with it, who am I to stop you? But I certainly do appreciate your posts on Palestine and it is not my intention to create any fissures between us.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Please calm down. I said I wouldn’t use it.

                        Check the huge Wiktionary definition difference between the two words.

                        Please check your DISCUS history. I did it once, and not in the mood for doing it again while under attack.

                        Please let this drop.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Hammond said they were racist. I think he has bought that Zionist argument that all Jews derive out of Palestine. Any attempt to distinguish between different peoples adhering to the Judaic faith he says as racist, ergo to him your comments are racist. I could be wrong, but if you will look over his other writing and response to comments,can you see a better explanation.

                        http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/view-all/

                        Please note that he is highly informed and slugs down all sorts of Zionist myths about Palestine. But he doesn’t handle at all the question of whether all Jews derive legitimacy in Palestine by ancestral residence. He apparently regards such questions as racism, perhaps because they are new to him and offends the egalitarianism that characterizes his thinking. By strenuous pursuit of fairness he strips most of the Zionist con game, but he blunders into a trap of conferring possession of legitimacy, where such is actually defined by presumed ancestral heritage. Your pictures probably alienated him more than your presentation of genetic diseases.

                        Please don’t waste emotional energy being angry at him. Please try to see this as another problem in how to introduce such concepts while minimizing possible offense to egalitarian instincts. Perhaps, explanations of how the Zionist invasion of Palestine is enrolled with validation by presumption of ancestry in Palestine is in order before any presentation of photographs.

                        Perhaps you can try presenting such evidence without the photographs at the reference above, since the bans do not seem to been effective there.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        1. I did add a comment to that link that I created about being banned. => [A few hours after posting this link I went back to the website where my comments were deleted and read comments posted by the site owner Jeremy Hammond. I was very pleasantly surprised as I found his comments to be very compelling, very knowledgeable and very brave. I salute him. Please follow his comments => https://disqus.com/by/JeremyRHammond/%5D

                        2. About Jewish ancestry and Hammond: The European Jews did not plan on settling in Argentina or Yemen or Nicaragua. They had only one specific spot on the planet and that was Palestine. Why? Claim of ancestry, right? So if one legitimizes that claim, what is one refuting then? I think I would like to take you back to the Edwin M Wright documents and there are none like them. I sent you the link already
                        https://worldpeace365.wordpress.com/2016/01/24/edwin-m-wright/

                        3. About my side-by-side images of Jews: What are you saying? That they are not effective? I really would like to know. To me, they are the perfect tool to dismiss the silly notion of European Jews being cousins of the Arabs. What is your opinion of them.

                        4. I like what Hammond writes a lot. Amazing that I have yet to find anything to disagree with. I will keep reading but so far reading his comments have been nice, so rare …http://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        All I know is that he said in the comments that he was deleting all the racist comments and both yours and mine all disappeared.

                        No, i don’t think that your side-by-side pictures are racist or ineffective, but people are people, and Hammond is another one. Do you see any place were he distinguishes between different Jews in any of his writing? For example, between Arab Jews and Ashkenazi. He seems to see them as one monolithic block. Distinguishing between different Jews by use of pictures may seem racist to him.

                        I’m glad you see how good he is now.

                        Perhaps, you can query him with an e-mail, but please don’t be in a hurry.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        Thank you for this comment. I had no idea that your comments too were deleted. I intend to write to him – but like you said – it will take me sometime – perhaps a long time.

                        [For example, between Arab Jews and Ashkenazi. He seems to see them as one monolithic block.]

                        As much as I like what he writes, if he does not believe that European Jews are foreigners just like the British in Kenya, then in my eyes, he would lose quite a bit of currency. Remember what scares these Zios is when I tell them they are not cousins of ours! Also remember when I was commenting on that site that a guy wrote that he would consent to this and that and I challenged him if the Arabs would consent to what he (a foreigner) was willing to consent to? He apologised, right? Same scenario with Hammond. He can make his positions clear, but he cannot tell us (the people of the region) that these foreigners are not Europeans just like the British in Kenya. That is the point that needs to be driven home a million times over that the invasion of Palestine is colonialism.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/saddam-pertz.png?w=660

                        This is an amazing side-by-side images. Not only do they not look like brothers, but like twins! The pictures of an Arab Jew and an Arab Muslim look like of one and the same person, which goes to show that :

                        1. The Arab Jews have everything in common with their Arab brothers and sisters except for religion.

                        2. The Arab Jews have nothing in common with the European Jews except for religion.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        One more thing, I sent him a brief note that Zionism itself was extremely racist, and that what he had deleted was striking at the base of that racist validation.

                        I also said that he was a good, perceptive writer with a good choice of contributors to his web site. But I would be leaving, since I’m getting the same articles elsewhere.

                        So he does have the basic idea delivered to him, inoffensively, I think, and I hope he agrees. So taking your time before sending him your note is probably a good idea in that he gets some time for the concept to mature.

                        When people get hit hit with ideas and information unsettling to their old perceptions, they can be quite hostile until they become accustomed. I know myself, when I wading through such information, I often have to back off to let things settle.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I am angry, very angry!

                        Hammond is after all deceptive in a very sneaky way.

                        =>Myth #8 – God gave the land to the Jews, so the Arabs are the occupiers.

                        What Jewish and Christian Zionists omit from their Biblical arguments in favor of continued Israel occupation is that Yahweh also told the Hebrews, including the tribe of Judah (from whom the “Jews” are descended), that he would remove them from the land if they broke the covenant by rebelling against his commandments, which is precisely what occurs in the Bible.Myth #9 – Palestinians reject the two-state solution because they want to destroy Israel.
                        “In an enormous concession to Israel, …”<=

                        The question that need to be asked is what chance do the Palestinians have but to concede to whatever breadcrumbs the Euro-Jew is willing to dispense towards the Palestinians. Please watch my anger, and that anger is shared by the people of the region. No matter how good and knowledge this Hammond guy is, he cannot force on us the people of the region a genetic relationship that does not exist. Suppose it did exist (IT DOES NOT), who on earth would go around the planet shuffling around people based on who lived where 2000 years ago.? My conclusion now is that I do not like this Hammond guy. 99% of writers avoid this very important issue of the claim of coming back! That is the foundation upon which these goddamned E-U-R-O-P-E-A-N foreigners landed on my land!

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I don’t have any connection with this guy. You can use the contact mechanism on his site as well as I can.

                        But now you understand why he called you and me racist.

                        Remember that the spurious monolithic inter-relatedness of all Jews is a pretty dominant myth in the West. For a long time I worked with the simple idea that two thousand years of absence abrogated any claim of the European-Ashkenazi Jews to Palestine. I was also becoming convinced that there was very little Semite blood in the European Jews. I already knew about the genetic diseases and difference in appearance. Then I saw what you were presenting and the full perception became immediate.

                        So, I suggest that you think this over and do some planning before you commit to any moves. Hammond has obviously worked to be fair, but he has serious blind spots. Are there any ways to overcome them? For your (and my) direct action, Hammond is probably pretty much a lost cause. He is a monitor on his own blog site, so he has become accustomed to the exercise of shutting people down.

                        But getting rid of this mythology of a monolithic Jewish people seems to be the big job in front of us. I think you are doing as well as can be done in this situation right now. But your presentations need more exposure, so people in the West can get accustomed to them.

                        I suggest again that you get a subscription to sites that carry relevant articles that you can check everyday. I know that the hasbara have services that scan the Internet for articles critical of Israel for them to attack en masse.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        [Remember that the spurious monolithic inter-relatedness of all Jews is a pretty dominant myth in the West.]
                        Yes, and it is our job to debunk it. That is why my images are so powerful.]
                        ……….
                        [Then I saw what you were presenting and the full perception became immediate.]

                        This statement meant a lot to me. It did! It gave me more courage to keep going and non-stop.
                        ………..
                        [But getting rid of this mythology of a a monolithic Jewish people seems to be the big job in front of us.]

                        It is the one that needs work. This guy Hammond after all is covering what I would call ‘non-controversial stuff…I told you that it does not take me long to get the scoop on anyone commenting on Palestine. He refuses to see the proverbial elephant in the house.
                        ……….
                        [I suggest again that you get a subscription to sites that carry relevant articles that you can check everyday.]

                        I will connect with thousands of Arabic/Islamic sites, easy for me to do… and let them reach out to others.
                        ———–
                        Funny, very funny, demboj wrote this comment and when I replied he run away because impossible to answer the questions I posed without embarassing himself. Now, these are the kind of questions that Hammond would object to.

                        “I can’t tell whether a person is a Jew from a photograph. Nobody can.”

                        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/mintpressnews/israels_defense_minister_exposes_israels_divide_and_conquer_regional_strategy/#comment-2527168021

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        This article covers some of the ground of American information. I don’t see anything seriously wrong with it. Do you see anything you think I’m missing?

                        http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/02/21/gallup-poll-shows-americans-prefer-terrorist-nations-over-iran-why.html

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        OK, I will read it, the title sounds strange.

                        I never had so much fun responding to a comment as I did with this one!
                        https://disqus.com/home/discussion/mintpressnews/israels_defense_minister_exposes_israels_divide_and_conquer_regional_strategy/#comment-2527542252

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        1.As I mentioned the title was odd, come to find out, they were trying to say Americans favor S-Arabia over Iran, simple enough, right? But that deceptive title already made me lose interest in them. But not before being shocked by their claim that 95% of Saudis support ISIS. You know that is just impossible. Therefore I checked th website they provided as source, and it turns out a simple wordpress blog and they confess something about the source being –something or other — very weird. I have that link for you below.

                        2. Instead of wasting my time with what looked a very unreliable website, I went straight to Gullap and read the survey. The image below is very interesting in that America’s attitudes towards Iran never shifted in all those year since 1979. But I would have liked to see how favorable was Iran in Americans’ eyes prior to the revolution? But no surprises here considering the unrelenting bad press against Iran in all those decades. Interesting also the wide difference between republicans and democrats, the latter much more favorable.

                        http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/4e5lc8pmrkozlf6nv1buyq.png
                        ———–
                        Look what this website is saying about where they found the information about Saudi and ISIS.
                        https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/92-of-saudis-believes-that-isis-conforms-to-the-values-of-islam-and-islamic-law-survey/

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Helen4Yemen

                        [Here are the facts: 92% of Saudi Arabians approve of ISIS]

                        This statement is so insane! The Shia in Saudi are 15%, right there we are down to 85%, there is no one single Shia who would approve of ISIS since ISIS plans to deprive all Shias a right to life. I think 1% of Saudis supporting ISIS would be too high, that is just my own assessment.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Okay, thanks for pointing all this out!

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        There is no remote scintilla of evidence to establish a relationship between Jews in the world today and this region. None whatsoever, because the Jews of the period were expelled to Babylonia and the remaining tribes were entirely assimilated to the populations of the area. And indeed they are the antecedent of the Palestinian population, they have a greater relationship to the Hebrews of the early period than any Ashkenazim, none whatsoever by way of punctuating the irony and the point about the nature of a colonial settler project as an instrument of imperial conquest.

                        The above quote was by Ralph Schoenman. What are the chances Hammond wouLd even try to say such a thing? The chances are ZERO!

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • Helen4Yemen

                        [1.One more thing, I sent him a brief note that Zionism itself was extremely racist, and that what he had deleted was striking at the base of that racist validation.

                        2.I don’t have any connection with this guy. You can use the contact mechanism on his site as well as I can.]

                        ……

                        Those are your statements, I thought from #1 that you were referring to Hammond. I have lost all interest in him, because what he would like to see is the ‘two cousins’ sharing the land. I sizzle with anger when anyone tells us we have to be burdened with Europe’s Jews.

                      • Helen4Yemen
                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I have yet to read the link you have provided about the ten myths, but if he does not address the fake claim to ancestry, then he is only semi-effective … I will be able to find out more about him in a couple of days and will share with you my findings.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Okay.

            • Helen4Yemen

              What would have been their most cherished dream come true? If their genetic diseases did afflict only European Jews and Arab Jews together and no other groups of people, right? They would have had proof that their delusion is not a delusion but can be backed up with scientific evidence that they are cousin of the Semitic Arabs, right? But those genetic diseases- more than 40 of them – affect only European Jews and the rate these Ashkenazi diseases affect the Arabs Jews is just like the rest of the human population. These diseases provide more than ample evidence that Ashkenazi Jews have no genetic relations to the Arab region. But if Moses were to come down and confirm to them the truth, they would not accept it . You see, they give up that delusional connection to Palestine, they feel lost as a people. Therefore, they will go to their graves clinging to a delusion.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                You might check on that. From what I’ve seen the Ashkenazi suffer from 20 peculiar genetic diseases, but demonstrably Semite populations suffer from 18 different gentic disease. That seems pretty conclusive to me of different ancestry.

                As to their other “genetic evidence” Tapatio seems to have dispensed with pretty effectively. Also, I have trained as a scientist and the data offered seems very suspicious, such as the “Cohen marker” not coding for a protein. They seem to be working entirely off confirmation bias.

                • Helen4Yemen

                  20 are the most common Ashkenazi diseases but the total is 38, see link below

                  [Semite populations suffer from 18 different genetic disease]
                  _________

                  I do not know where you got this information from. Can you please provide me source?

                  I can tell you that there are no such things as ‘semitic diseases’ as there is no such a group of people as a Semitic people (biologically speaking). ‘Semitic’ is a language group, one of the main languages being Arabic. Many other languages in the area are also ‘Semitic’, such as Eritrean and Ethiopian languages. Anyone whose mother tongue is one of the ‘Semitic’ languages is considered to be a Semite. When I googled for ‘semitic genetic diseases’ what popped up were only the ‘Ashkenazi diseases’. (The reason is because the non-Semitic Ashkenazi Jew grabbed the word ‘Semitic’ and run with it, never intending to let it go. Therefore, when the word ‘Semitic’ pops up, the Ashkenazi Jew is the one popping up and not the original and true Semites).

                  Please keep in mind the following facts.

                  1. The Arabs are not a racial group and hence there could not be such a thing as an
                  ‘Arab disease’ similar to there could not be an ‘American disease’.

                  2. There is no Islamic or Christian disease, because -obviously- diseases do not get acquired when on acquires a religion. When we speak of ‘Ashkenazi diseases’, it has nothing to with their religion but with their ethnic origin within Europe. The Ashkenazi are one people from within Europe who have been breeding among Ashkenazi and hence the concentration of their diseases.

                  3. There are not diseases peculiar to Arab Jews since each group of Arab Jew is in fact the same people as the rest of the population. For example, there can NEVER be an Iraqi-Jewish disease. If the Iraqi-Jew has a disease, it woiuld be common among the general population of Iraq.

                • Helen4Yemen

                  The most common Ashkenazi diseases are 19, but the total of Ashkenazi diseases are 38.

                  https://www.genetests.org/tests/details.php?id=140391

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    Okay, thanks! What do you think about those in Wikipedia? I think the difference between genetic diseases and their frequencies between different populations could be very helpful in slugging down false ancestry claims by the Ashkenazi.

                    • Helen4Yemen

                      Pretty soon, you and I may be the top notch experts in Ashkenazi diseases (I had to laugh as I was typing …). The Ashkenazi are stuck in a very tricky situation. On the one hand, there are all these diseases that affect them in such amazing numbers that they cannot just shrug them off. On the other hand, they have this deep fear that acknowledging these diseases as being ‘their diseases’ exposes them to being Europeans and not Semites, something that they dread day and night. And what do all those medical journals refer to them as? As being of Eastern Europe DESCENT! Sometimes, they substitute ‘heritage’ for ‘DESCENT’, because that word ‘DESCENT’ is saying to them that they have no genetic connection to Palestine if their DESCENT is Eastern Europe. So they can only come up with stupid, illogical counter arguments to explain away these diseases. They can’t! At the end of the day, logic has to win the day.

                      As I mentioned earlier, (I had to laugh again), you are on your way to becoming the Ashkenazi-Diseases-Expert, along with me. Just read the link below which has a few links that can really educate us much more about Ashkenazi diseases.

                      https://worldpeace365.wordpress.com/2016/02/21/ashkenazi-genetic-diseases/

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        ” And what do all those medical journals refer to them as? As being of
                        Eastern Europe DESCENT! Sometimes, they substitute ‘heritage’ for
                        ‘DESCENT’, because that word ‘DESCENT’ is saying to them that they have
                        no genetic connection to Palestine if their DESCENT is Eastern Europe,”

                        Very nice catch!

                        Thanks for sharing.

                        I think that this genetic disease information is much more powerful evidence than all the sponsored “science” they can gather in.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        [I think that this genetic disease information is much more powerful evidence ]

                        Yes, they can go to the moon and back but they cannot explain away all these genetic disease! That is why I spend precious time searching for good usable and factual information with sources that can stand up to their attempt to refute the validity of the information. (in this case, the sources are actually Ashkenazi websites or websites that cater to to the welfare of Ashkenazi Jews. I do hope that you will get a chance to read the links that I just sent. Powerful information is what is contained in those links.

                        Thanks.

                    • Helen4Yemen

                      Wikipedia is totally worthless when it comes to the word ‘Jew’
                      They like Wikipedia, because they are sure, very sure, what Wikipedia contains.
                      No surprises in Wikipedia for them, they have fiddled with it, they have modified it
                      and with their eyes closed they can recite back to you what each subject matter
                      contains. That is why you see them pushing–pushing–pushing Wikipedia.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Correct. But I think they blundered when they listed the different genetic diseases suffered by Mizrahi-Sephardic populations. But then they are propagandists, not scientists or logicians.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        There are no ‘Semitic diseases’, as I explained. There are no ‘Mizrahi’ diseases as the Iraqi-Jew is actually Iraqi in blood and flesh as the Yemeni Jew is Yemeni. If a Yemeni Jew has a certain genetic disease, it means that the people of Yemen have that genetic disease. But for the sake of argument, let’s say the Arab Jews have a certain genetic disease. But as long as the Arab-Jews’ disease are totally separate and apart from Ashkenazi Jews diseases, then what does it prove? Remember that the Ashkenazi have excessive and extreme fear of being denied what they crave the most: to have their origins on no other spot on earth except for Palestine. Let me tell you this: it is a miserable way to live a life – wishing you were descended from a people that you have no biological connection to. The poor person in the villages of the Congo with not even twenty dollars to his name has a much more fulfilled life knowing who he is and who is in his ancestry is than a billionaire Ashkenazi Jew who is always longing to be part of a people’s heritage and history that he is not part of. A very pathetic way to live this life.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        I agree. The correlation of Mizrahi-Sephardi genetic diseases with the population they are part of is another piece of evidence that the Ashkenazi are totally alien to the Middle East. Is their genetic disease profile even shared with other eastern Europeans? An absence of that would mean that they are totally alien to all peoples of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East. Where did they come from? Khazaria?

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        The reason why these diseases are called ‘Ashkenazi diseases’ is because they affect this particular group in such large numbers compared to the general population. There is no other group that is known to have these diseases to even much lesser extent. The way I see it is that those diseases apply to Euro-Jews at very high rates and the entire people of the earth falls under ‘general population’, meaning that the rate for a Chinese is similar to the rate for a Ugandan or a Yemeni. So what does it mean? Actually one of the articles does describe the reason as being that Ashkenazi Jews marry other Ashkenazi Jews, i.e. Khazars marrying only other Khazars.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        That’s helpful. You cover a lot of ground very fast.

                • Helen4Yemen

                  Ashkenazi Jewish Carrier rate
                  _______________________

                  Cystic fibrosis 1/30

                  Tay-Sachs disease 1/30

                  Familialdysautonomia 1/32

                  Canavan disease 1/40

                  Niemann-Pick (Type A) 1/90

                  Fanconi anemia (type C) 1/90

                  Bloom syndrome 1/100

                  Mucolipidosis type IV 1/125

                  http://staff.washington.edu/sbtrini/Teaching%20Cases/Case%2038.pdf

            • Helen4Yemen

              Where did the clown say that? Actually, these side-by-side images scare them to the point of complete silence. I would love the clown to challenge me on these images. So far, no one has dared!

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                I forget. Someplace else in this thread he claims that you are unable to tell genetics from pictures.

                • Helen4Yemen

                  Yes, this is what he wrote (funny!)

                  [Genetic testing proves there is no connection between Jews and peoples from the Khazars lands. Instead, the tests show the Jews and Palestinian Arabs are the closest relatives of both groups. Your allegations are pure gibberish]
                  ___________
                  Hehe! What peoples from the “Khazar lands’? The people from the ‘Khazars lands’ are the Goldberg’s, the Silverstein’s the Bloomberg’s of today! Funny, very funny! He told 2 deliberate lies:

                  1. He told a total lie that there was a genetic testing done between ‘Jews’ and ‘peoples from the Khazars lands’. No such test exists. Total fabrication.

                  2. He is gonna make the leap to link to Palestine by having a genetic-link to the Palestinian Arabs who are supposed not even to exist on the planet (a land without a people).
                  Funny what desperation would make people do.

                  p.s. when I posted those side-by-side images in response, he totally went silent!

      • demboj

        Look you idiot, it does not matter whether there is or there is not a biological or genetic connection between a modern Jew and any individual who ever lived anywhere in the Middle East or Israel. There is zero connection between their genetics and their Judaism and their right to make aliyah. The connection is religion. When a person converts to Judaism, even from Christianity or Islam, they assume all the rights and privileges that G-d gave to the Jews at Sinai, including the right to live in Israel. How much simpler do I have to get to bore through your thick skull? The Jews who have lived in the Middle East continuously since antiquity, undoubtedly do have closer biological relationship with the other peoples of the Middle East than Jews who were separated at some point in history, like the European Jews or the Indian Jews or the Ethopian Jews. As repressed and enslaved peoples, Jewish women in the Middle East and elsewhere were raped and impregnated again and again over hundreds, even thousands, of years by Babylonians, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Christians, Arabs, Crusaders, and Turks. And by the native peoples wherever they lived. Their children, generation after generation, became more and more genetically like their rapist neighbors. But all these children, even those with non-Jewish genes, became Jews because the only way to become a Jew automatically is to be born to a Jewish mother (it doesn’t matter who the father is) and all their children and the descendants of their children are equally Jewish and have an equal right to make aliyah. Despite what I have written, however, the vast majority of European Jews undoubtedly do have a strong biological connection to ancestors who once lived in the Middle East. Genetics proves this. But every single person on the planet of whatever race and nationality can say the same thing. Modern humans evolved in Africa and there is only one way for primitive people to get from Africa to the rest of the world on foot: across the Sinai peninsula and into Israel and then to Asia or Europe. Look at a map. We all had ancestors who lived in Israel.

    • Helen4Yemen
      • Helen4Yemen

        Please understand that the European Jews in Palestine are a colonial settler state just like the British in Kenya and the French in Algeria!
        …………….

        “Zionist colonization must either be terminated or carried out against the wishes of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, be continued and make progress only under the protection of a power independent of the native population -an iron wall, which will be in a position to resist the pressure to the native population. This is our policy towards the Arabs…”
        …………..
        Vladimir Jabotinsky- The Iron Wall, 1923:

        • demboj

          Rubbish. There have always been Jews in Israel. There has never been a moment when there were no Jews in Israel. Yes, many Jews were exiled from the land by force. The Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, and Turks stole the land that G-d gave to the Jews. But no thief may get good title to land or any other property. It always belongs to the original owner. Meanwhile, there is no historical mention of Arabs living in Israel until the 7th century AD, thousands of years after Jews lived there. The right of Jews living anywhere in the world to return to their homeland is pure, simple, perfect justice.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            But those have been Semite Arab Jews, not white European Ashkenazi converts to Judaism with no ancestry in Palestine.

            Also, you are being mendacious about the Palestinians. They were living in Palestine for many millennia being they adopted the identification of their Arab conquerors. Please stop wasting our time with lies that have been completely refuted many times before.

            • demboj

              That’s trash. Anybody with a Jewish mother is a Jew. Jews are Jews wherever they live. And non-Jews like you have no right to tell anybody who is a Jew. So you are are saying that the Palestinians are apostate Jews. That explains everything. No wonder they are so filled with shame and anger and remorse. They abandoned Judaism to curry favor with their conquerors and now they find the Jews triumphant! Times do change. Maybe the Palestinians, who you say ratted on their original religion, should consider converting back to Judaism. Actually, I think Israel ought to pass a law encouraging Palestinians to return to Judaism.. The Christians are already starting to call themselves Arameans, not Palestinians, so the idea is already present in Israel. In your hysterical attempts to show that Ashkenazi Jews don’t have a right to live in Israel, I detect a fear that Judaism will make inroads among the Palestinians if they continue to believe that all Jews are the same people.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Nope! That’s just bigot mythology. Judaism is a religion, just like any other religion. People convert in and out of it. You pretend otherwise because you are a savagely predatory bigot out to steal other people’s things, including their countries. You are the worst among the worst of the Ashkenazi. By your incessant greed, mendacity, and cheating, you make all others suffer, including others adhering to Judaism, including the good Ashkenazi. They get blamed for the monstrous evils you do, and they suffer for all the expulsions and pogroms your evil clique does. Meanwhile, your kind has already fled with your ill-gotten riches thinking that you are better than everyone else.

                • demboj

                  Sounds like an Arab to me. Besides if Judaism is a religion and people come in and go out, then that explains the differences between Ashkenazim and Sephardim and both have equal rights to a Jewish homeland. Frankly, I don’t understand you at all. You seem to think that Jews have hoped and prayed and struggled for 2000 years to return to Zion, but will peacefully agree to give that up for anything. That is a dubious proposition. And if you then argue that the Arabs will throw the Jews out, I then ask, Which Arabs? If there is to be a fight to the death between Palestinians and Israelis, are you really so sure that the Palestinians will win? Isn’t it much more likely that the Israelis will end up the sole occupants of the land and the remaining Palestinians will end up in Jordanian and Syrian refugee camps. Is that the end you seek? The Arabs have tried to expel the Jews for 70 years and utterly failed. Israel is far stronger than it has ever been and the Arabs are weaker than they have ever been. I think the Arab states have come to realize that Iran is their real enemy I’d Iran and are trying to ally themselves with Israel in self defense. Hamas which has been taking money from Iran is now a pariah among the Sunnis. Hezbollah, which has taken money from Iran and is allied with Syria and Russia to slaughter Sunnis is in the same boat. Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States took Israel ‘s side in the Gaza war against Hamas and are now blockading Gaza even more than Israel. Would these Arab states be acting like this if they believed one single word of what you are talking about? No. No. Never.

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    Of course, you claim not to understand me. Because I don’t accept your silly mumbo jumbo to justify the savage invasion that you conscience bereft white European Ashkenazi thugs started over 130 years ago? You have absolutely no evidence that you Ashkenazi were even Jewish two thousand years ago. You have only a one thousand year history, all of it with weird and peculiar genetic diseases and all of it in central and eastern Europe. Whatever mythology you pursue to excuse your crimes is irrelevant except to show how evilly crazy you are. Who cares about de-brained thugs like you claiming that you have prayed and yammered for thousands of years for Palestine?

                    Moreover, this is not a matter of what “Arab states” believe, this is a matter of the history that you Ashkenazi thugs have generated.

                    David Grun Proclaiming the Thugdom of Israel
                    http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/daybreakers-vampire-e1376045275367.jpg

            • demboj

              Racist

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Dumbo demboj the jibbering racist rapist of other people!

          • Helen4Yemen

            [There have always been Jews in Israel]
            These Jews?
            https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/4-euro-jews.jpg?w=990

            • demboj

              I can’t tell whether a person is a Jew from a photograph. Nobody can.

              • Helen4Yemen

                https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare-3way400b.jpg?w=990

                [I can’t tell whether a person is a Jew from a photograph. Nobody can.]

                Then you need to go to your nearest optometrist and get good vision glasses?

                Questions:

                1. The African Jew on the picture is on a) the left b) the right c) center

                2. The European Jew on the picture is on a) the left b) the right c) center

                3. The Arab Jew on the picture is on a) the left b) the right c) center

                Guess what? 5-year olds would answer the questions scoring 100% correct!

                Wanna try?

                WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF THE JEW IN THE CENTER HAVING LINEAGE TO PALESTINE?

                • demboj

                  The pictures and your numbered list prove without doubt that you cannot tell at sight a Jew from a non-Jew. If Jews can look as differently from one another as the individuals shown there is no way that you can establish that anyone is not a Jew. Furthermore, it would make no difference legally or morally if you could prove that a Jew was not directly descended from someone who ever lived in Israel. It doesn’t matter where a Christian’s ancestors came from for them to be a good Christian. It doesn’t matter where a Muslims ancestors came in proving he is a good Muslim. And it doesn’t where a Jew came from in proving he is a good Jew. It is the same in all three religions. Converts are not second class Christians Muslims or Jews. If a person from Nigeria, or Iceland, or China convert to Judaism they have the exact same right to make Aliyah as any Jew whose ancestors never left Eretz Israel. Furthermore, the Israeli law of return is Israeli law and only the Israeli Knesset can change it and only the Israeli Supreme Court can pass legal judgment on it. You, you drivelling idiot, are too ignorant to be allowed on the streets alone. I know that nothing on earth can stop you from making a continuous fool of yourself, and your persistence also proves that your brain is impervious to reason, facts, and logic, but I want you to know that even if I no longer respond to all your stupidities, I you will live in my memory forever as the very epitome of stupidity, the crime de la crime of ignorance, the acme of assininity. Farewell.

                  • Helen4Yemen

                    1. The pictures and your numbered list prove without doubt that you cannot tell at sight a Jew from a non-Jew.

                    Most certainly! Same logic applies to Muslims, Christians and the rest. But the question posed to you was if you could identify who is a European vs African vs Arab, right? R U saying you could not?

                    2. If Jews can look as differently from one another as the individuals shown there is no way that you can establish that anyone is not a Jew.

                    Something wrong with the way your brain is functioning-a total disconnect of logic. I never said anything of that sort! The question again was if you could identify who is a European on those pictures and if you could, then the question that would follow is what is a EUROPEAN doing on Arab soil, right?

                    3. Furthermore, it would make no difference legally or morally if you could prove that a Jew was not directly descended from someone who ever lived in Israel.

                    Morally? Legally? Do you know the meaning of larceny? Why do the Goldberg’s and Silverstein’s claim land title to Arab Palestine? If Mr. Goldberg is entitled to free Arab land, why not Mr. Ricardo or Mr. Wong or Mr Chang? Right?

                    4. It doesn’t matter where a Christian’s ancestors came from for them to be a good Christian.

                    I have no idea what that statement is supposed to mean? R U saying it matters not where a Jew comes from to be a good Jew? But ‘the Jews’ that we are talking about happen to be colonial settlers from Europe who seized Arab land illegally.

                    5. It doesn’t matter where a Muslims ancestors came in proving he is a good Muslim.

                    But Muslim from Indonesia did not stampede to Arab Palestine to steal land, did they? European Jews did!

                    6. And it doesn’t (matter) where a Jew came from in proving he is a good Jew.

                    The ‘Jew’ could be a good Jew right where he belongs on his very own land in Europe.

                    7. It is the same in all three religions.

                    Yes, but one of the three religions believes its people to be direct descendants from Palestine and no other place on earth. You see, the Chinese Muslim does not claim Palestine to be his ancestral homeland, the Brooklyn Jew does!

                    8. Converts are not second class Christians Muslims or Jews.

                    I never said that and simple-ordinary logic would indicate the overwhelming majority of the three religions are converts.

                    9. If a person from Nigeria, or Iceland, or China convert to Judaism they have the exact same right to make Aliyah as any Jew whose ancestors never left Eretz Israel.

                    a) I have a problem with the word ‘Aliyah’,meaning the Euro-Jew first steals Arab land and opens the flood gates to the rest of his co-religionists.

                    b)The personal from Nigeria is not received as a Jew and looked down upon with a huge dose of racism.

                    10. Furthermore, the Israeli law of return is Israeli law and only the Israeli Knesset can change it and only the Israeli Supreme Court can pass legal judgment on it.

                    Yes, the fake courts of the fake little state.

                    11. You, you drivelling idiot, are too ignorant to be allowed on the streets alone.

                    Thank you for that,I mean it, b/c I laughed when I read it. You sound young, how old are you, babe?

                    12. I know that nothing on earth can stop you from making a continuous fool of yourself,

                    I think I have hurt your tender feelings that go with your tender age
                    Have I?

                    13. and your persistence also proves that your brain is impervious to reason, facts, and logic,

                    You see, babe, all that I asked was to tell me if you could identify who is a European on that picture. If you did, then you knew Euro-Jewry’s claim to Palestine is fake and delusional. Therefore, you didn’t. Instead, you went looking for another route, the route of collecting and throwing heap of insults. Why could you not answer my multiple-choice questions? The reason is very obvious, no? You are petrified of anyone finding out that European Jews are European, root,branch and leaves – and no connection to Palestine – none whatsoever – except as converts – just like the Chinese Muslims.

                    14. but I want you to know that even if I no longer respond to all your stupidities,

                    Hehehe! Stop, don’t go! I like you! I have said goodbye to many of your friends at least 50 of them – but this is the first time that anyone is saying goodbye to me. I will try to be gentle and tender to match your tender age, OK?

                    15. You will live in my memory forever as the very epitome of stupidity,

                    Thank you, darlin’. The more you are insulting me, the more I am getting to like you, weird, huh?

                    16. the crime de la crime of ignorance, the acme of assininity.

                    What language is it, babe? Even Google Translate said it did not know what language! Hehe! Let me try to translate: “You asinine, ignorant, stupid, fool, idiotic, imbecilic, moron.” How did I do?

                    17. Farewell.

                    Don’t go! Come back! Remember what I promised you? TLC – tender loving care!

                    NOTE: This is the first time that I had to answer to a comment sentence by sentence – b/c each sentence did warrant its own answer.

                    • TecumsehUnfaced

                      Very nice! You gave him the stomping he deserves.

              • Helen4Yemen

                https://i2.wp.com/worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/livni33.png?ssl=1&w=450

                Pick the right answer

                This woman’s origin can be determined from the picture as being:
                a) Africa
                b) the Middle East
                c) Europe
                d) China
                e) Indonesia

                What is your answer?

                • demboj

                  All human beings come from Africa.

          • Helen4Yemen

            https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/yemeni119.jpg?w=660

            [There have always been Jews in Israel]
            You mean these Jews and not European Jews? Right?

      • demboj

        Helen4Yemen = TRASH. See anyone can write like you.

      • demboj

        Helen4Yemen = Brainless Twit.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          demboj = de-brained thug. insolent enough to call other people a “Brainless Twit”

          • Helen4Yemen

            One of the reasons websites site as a reason for banning users is when they start using abusive language towards another, and esp when it is unwarranted. He is calling me names because I posted the video where Ralph Schoenman is telling the world that he as an Ashkenazi Jew and the rest have no genetic relations to the Arabs. When you see them resorting to insults, it means that he is very irritated because he is being shown to the world unmasked of his delusion,.

        • Helen4Yemen

          Why resort to insults? Is it because it is checkmate time for you and you find yourself pushed against the wall with no way out?

    • Helen4Yemen

      [“We should realise that we are going to see enclaves – ‘Alawistan’, ‘Syrian Kurdistan’,

      ‘Syrian Druzistan’. They might cooperate or fight each other.”]
      _________

      The following quote from => The Zionist Plan for the Middle East by Oded Yinon – a MUST READ

      “Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precendent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target. Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon, so that there will be a Shi’ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbor, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan. This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today.”

      • demboj

        Sounds like a good idea to me. Of course, there is no mention in the article that Israel plans to do this. The Arabs are dividing up their lands all by themselves. The only real help they are getting in the race to see how fast they can destroy themselves is from the Russians, Kurds, Turks, and Persians. Israel has not been involved in the fighting except to prevent anybody sending arms to Hezbollah.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          That is the kind of answer we can expect from ZioNazi psychopaths.

    • Helen4Yemen

      [If the Sunni and Shiite worlds are at each other’s throats, it becomes much easier for Israel to pursue its own interests, ]
      ___________
      But the one and only reason that even allowed these foreign Jews to remain rooted for so long on our soil is because of the Sunni/Shia divide. Without this division, not a chance! This division is the curse of Islam whereby foreigners have caused incalculable damage and the Islamic world remains divided.

      • demboj

        This is the first intelligent thing I read by you. It contradicts your previous arguments that Israel is to blame for the Arab fighting. But of course, Israel was established before the current fighting between Sunni and Shia, so Israel can certainly exist if Sunnis and Shias aren’t fighting. Further, Sunnis and Shias have persecuted each other for more than a thousand years, but Israel only arose in the last 70 years. Therefore, you cannot blame the Sunni -Shia split for either the absence of Israel or its presence. Whatever that weakens Israel’s enemies is good for Israel, but Israel can defeat her enemies without any help from the divided Arabs and Persisns. If the Sunnis wish to keep self-rule and don’t want to fall to the new Persian empire, they should dump the Palestinians and ally with Israel.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Actually, it doesn’t. She merely points out that you ZioNazi psychopaths of the alien white European thug coagulation throttling Palestine do all you can to promote discord.

    • Helen4Yemen

      https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare-3way400b.jpg?w=990

      Three Jews, from left to right: Arab, European and African. Who in their right mind would say that these three are all in the ‘Diaspora’, their genuine home being Palestine and dna can prove that they have special ‘Jewish blood’? . Anyone?

      • demboj

        Since you are the one “not in their right mind” that question answers itself. However, your method is entirely faulty. You cannot establish racial identity from photographs. Nor can you determine ancestry from photographs. There are blond blue-eyed Arabs, Kurds, Iraqis Pakistanis and Persians. I have seen them. Jews have lived among non-Jewish people’s for thousands of years. Jews may marry persons of other nations and religions and races. They may accept converts. In many places Jews were subject to rape on a regular basis. So common did this become that Jews adopted a matrilineal method of descent to avoid extinction: whoever is born of a Jewish mother is Jewish. This is still the system today. It is not surprising that Jews look very similar to whatever people’s they have lived among over the centuries.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Then you can’t answer it. At last, a confession! You throw out a lot of contradictory suppositions that don’t show that all Jews arose from Palestine as you nonsensically claim. Why? Because you have an ongoing monumental crime against humanity to excuse.

          • demboj

            It is a simple fact that nobody can tell a persons race for sure from a photograph. That is not a confession it is a simple fact. And I never said all Jews arose from Palestine. You are the one who claims that it matters that some Jews are native and some are colonialists. I said all Jews have an equal right to go to Israel because they are all Jews. If a person converts to Judaism they are 100 equal to every other Jew and so are their descendants. Jews make the rules for Judaism, not foreigners. They don’t have to be Zionist or Ashkenazi, or conservative or liberal or orthodox, or White or Chinese or anything to make Aliyah. It doesn’t matter what their genetic background is and it never has mattered. Only racists make the argument that Jews are this race or that race. We are a people and a nation and a civilization to ourselves. The only thing that matters is whether they are Jewish and that they want to make Aliyah and that is between the Jews and G-d.

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              Nonsense.

              You are claiming that you can’t tell the difference between Chinese, Negro, Ashkenazi Caucasian, and and Palestian Semite. You have confessed to imbecility again…. as if you needed to.

              • demboj

                No, you idiot. I’m saying you can’t prove the difference between people of different races on the bases of photographs. That is long disproved bad science. In any case it is immaterial as far as Jews are concerned. There are Jews of every race and they are equally Jewish. We never based our right to Israel on the bases of our ancestry even though most Jews probably do come from Israel. Our right to the land comes from having joined the Jewish people by birth or by conversion. Equally you lose your right to make Aliyah if you convert to another religion.

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  This is funny! You’re claiming that you can’t see what everybody else sees. But we already know that. You see the hallucinations common to a weird wacko of a ZioNazi bigot. You claim that you think you see Semites when you are looking at Chinese, or Nigerians, of white European ZioNazi bigots.

                  You have absolutely no valid claim to Semite Palestine no matter how much you lie and wiggle. You can’t prove that any of your ancestors came from Palestine, only that you are a ZioNazi bigot, which is conceded.

                • tapatio

                  No human would want to make your imbeciliic “ali-yuck”. Why would civilized humans want to join the most barbaric, treacherous CULTure on Earth?
                  God told you that you were his
                  cursed and you, in your stupidity, thought he said “chosen”.

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    Hey, that’s pretty good! Maybe we can make it into a meme.

                    • tapatio

                      It’s only the truth about Judaism. A quote I just looked up in reply to another hasbara best defines the “Jewish situation”……….

                      “The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are dwelling will have to raise the question of their wholesale expulsion, a question which will be one of life or death, good health or chronic disease, peaceful existence or perpetual social fever.”
                      Franz Liszt

                    • tapatio

                      Don’t know why this reply didn’t take. Your response popped up again, though and my reply wasn’t there. Oh, well, Disqus burped.

                      It’s only the truth about Judaism. A quote I just looked up in reply to another hasbara best defines the “Jewish situation”……….

                      “The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are dwelling will have to raise the question of their wholesale expulsion, a question which will be one of life or death, good health or chronic disease, peaceful existence or perpetual social fever.”
                      Franz Liszt

                • Helen4Yemen

                  https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/side-by-side6.jpg?w=990

                  [No, you idiot. I’m saying you can’t prove the difference between people of different races on the bases of photographs.]
                  What do the pictures tell you? What are the chances there is a biologic connection between the two? Can you answer that?

                • Helen4Yemen

                  [Our right to the land comes from having joined the Jewish people by birth or by conversion]

                  Your right was derived via extortion, bribery and international intrigue.
                  ………
                  Letter from President Nasser to President Kennedy 1961

                  “He who does not own has made a promise to he who does not deserve. Then both he who does not own” and “he who does not deserve” were able, through force and deceit, to usurp the right of the legitimate owner and take away from him what he owned and deserved. This is the true picture of the Balfour declaration: Britain’s pledge, promising in a land she does not own, but is owned by the Arab people of Palestine – a Jewish home in Palestine. On the individual basis, Mr. President, not to speak of the international basis, the picture as such shows a clear case of larceny in which any ordinary court can convict those responsible.”

        • Helen4Yemen

          This is still the system today. It is not surprising that Jews look very similar to whatever people’s they have lived among over the centuries.

          https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare-3way400b.jpg?w=990

          The reason Jews look like the rest of the population is because they are part of that particular population. Yemeni Jews are Yemenis in everything except for religion. A good example I can give you is about Muslims: Nigerian Muslims certainly look like the rest of the Nigerian population and so do Chinese Muslims, Indian Muslims … and so on. The very same logic applies to European Jews. But they have a very delusional notion that they are not who they really are but somebody else. They say that they are not European but M/Eastern. Bizarre!

          • demboj

            The Yemeni Jews are Jews in everything including their religion. They look like other Yemenis because they have lived in Yemen for thousands of years and there has been widespread inter-breeding, willing and unwilling, for most of that time. Why not say that the non-Jews in Yemen look like Jews? Jews have been in Europe since before the Roman Empire. At the time of Christ approximately 10% of the entire empire’s population was Jewish. That was before the Germanic invasions that overthrew the Empire.
            The Jews were scattered throughout the empire and outside the empire. Most lived in the province of Palestine, but there were major settlements in Alexandria, Rome, the Rhine valley, Spain, as well as in the Persian and Hindu lands, and also in Ethiopia. The Jews were in Europe since before the Germans took over France and Spain and Italy and England. In ancient times nobody ever thought the Jews looked different from other peoples. In none of the ancient documents, including the Bible, is there any mention that Jews had any distinguishing physical features. They were known for their military prowess, and their religious doctrines, piety and intellectual gifts, as they are today, but nobody ever commented on their noses or their diseases or their outlandish dress or their Middle Eastern background. Nobody said then that the Jews were deluded for thinking they came from the Middle East. Everybody knows that Jews and Judaism came from the Middle East.

            • Helen4Yemen

              1 The Yemeni Jews are Jews in everything including their religion. They look like other Yemenis because they have lived in Yemen for thousands of years and there has been widespread inter-breeding, willing and unwilling, for most of that time.

              So are you saying that the passage of time changes the way people look or you are saying due to interbreeding? If due to interbreeding, how much of the ‘original Jew’ remains after many generations of breeding with non-Jews?

              2 Why not say that the non-Jews in Yemen look like Jews?

              https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare-yemeni-jews.jpg?w=990

              Is there a difference between saying the Jew on the picture looks like the Yemenis or the Yemeni looks like the Jew? The main reason is because the Jews in Yemen were a tiny fraction of the entire population, even before European Jews stole Palestine.

              3 Most lived in the province of Palestine,

              https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/haneen.png?w=990

              The European Jews lived in Palestine? You mean the European Jewish woman on the left has ancestry to Palestine? Are you out of your mind?

              4 but there were major settlements in Alexandria, Rome, the Rhine valley, Spain, as well as in the Persian and Hindu lands, and also in Ethiopia.

              https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/idf-3b.png?w=990
              Ethiopia? What about Ugandan, Kenyan, Nigerian Jews? Where do you think they come from? They insist – just like the white Jew – that they are the original Jews. Who is right?

              5 In ancient times nobody ever thought the Jews looked different from other peoples.

              https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/idf3.png?w=990

              Because in ancient times, there were only the indigenous Jews of the region. You must remember that 90% of today Jewry is of European origin.

              6 In none of the ancient documents, including the Bible, is there any mention that Jews had any distinguishing physical features. One looks very distinctively European and the other Middle Eastern?

              https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare471.jpg?w=990

              You do agree, don’t you that these two Jews on the picture have ‘distinguishing physical features’, don’t you?

              7 but nobody ever commented on their noses or their diseases or their outlandish dress or their Middle Eastern background.

              a) I never mentioned noses

              b) I never mentioned ‘outlandish dress’

              c)Google ‘Ashkenazim genetic diseases’. Note: it is not ‘Jewish-genetic-disease, OK, the diseases affect only European Jews

              https://worldpeace365.wordpress.com/2016/02/21/ashkenazi-genetic-diseases/

              d)European Jews have ZERO M/E background, just like the Chinese Muslims have ZERO M/E background.

              8 Nobody said then that the Jews were deluded for thinking they came from the Middle East.

              https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/idf3.png?w=990

              Back then, there were no European Jews. Jews like in the picture did not exist then. European Jews are converts.

              9 Everybody knows that Jews and Judaism came from the Middle East.

              50% correct in that Judaism did come from the M/E But ‘Jews’ did not all come from the M/E. Today’s Jewry of 90% is composed of European converts who are now referred to as ‘Ashkenazi Jews’

              ___________

              I do feel sorry for you. You want to be who you are not! Listen, this is not because of Palestine but about DELUSION. A EUROPEAN people claiming to be what they are not is bizarre and pathetic.

    • Helen4Yemen

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sC5qkMGEnE

      Must watch! How Arab feels towards the European Jews on Arab soil! Pure hatred!

      • tapatio

        You’re right, Helen. 85% of Egyptians hate Jews because the only Jews they know are the European, Caucasian animals that have invaded Palestine.

        • Helen4Yemen
        • demboj

          Racist. Racist.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            How? It is you white European ZioNazis doing the invading and the assaulting.

            • demboj

              What do you pro-Arab thugs have against invading other countries? You do it all the time. Just look at Libya, Yemen, Quwait, Iraq, Syria, Jordan. You only object when Israel defends itself.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Huh? Isn’t that white thugs who invaded all those countries? Sorry, I hate what my utterly corrupt American government is doing. This directly unlike the yammering support you give to the white European invader thugs of Semite Palestine.

            • demboj

              You definitely sound Jewish to me. You should say “we white European ZioNazis”.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Why/ Because you are hallucinating again?

                You’re the only ZioNazi in this conversation.

          • tapatio

            Since I am a European Caucasian and the AshkeNAZ! “Jews” are European Caucasians – JUST HOW CAN “RACISM” BE AN ISSUE, ZIONAZ! TROLL???

            • demboj

              Anybody can be a racist. You have proved it dozens of times today already. Indeed no sane person could ever believe anything you say or write.

              • tapatio

                The truest words in Judaism………

                “To communicate anything with a Goy about our relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.
                Talmud

                This Judeo-Fascist cult, masquerading as religion and ethnicity, is going to CHOKE to DEATH on what it hates and fears most – THE TRUTH

      • demboj

        Racist.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Look who’s talking. There is nothing more racist than European Zionism, which claims the right of right European thugs to invade and steal other people’s country.

          • demboj

            Racist

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              I guess I must seem so to such a wonderful creature when I deny your specially fabricated “right” to invade and steal other people’s country. This is the kind of monster you are…

              http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/41768#sthash.VwwqwpuN.dpuf

              Ilan Pappe, an Israeli historian and Haifa University lecturer, whose ninth book is titled “The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine,” documents how Israel was born with lands forcibly seized from its Palestinian inhabitants who had lived there for hundreds of years. During the British mandate (1920-1948), Zionist leaders concluded Palestinians, who owned 90 percent of the land (with 5.8 percent owned by Jews), would have to be forcibly expelled to make a Jewish state possible. Pappe quotes David Ben-Gurion, Israel’s first prime minister, addressing the Jewish Agency Executive in June 1938, as saying, “I am for compulsory transfer. I do not see anything immoral in it.”

              Pappe outlines Plan D (Dalet in Hebrew), which followed earlier plans A, B and C, and included forcible expulsion of some 800,000 Palestinians from both urban and rural areas with the objective of creating by any means necessary an exclusive Jewish state without an Arab presence. The methods ranged from a campaign of disinformation — “get out immediately because the Jews are on their way to kill you” — to Jewish militia attacks to terrorize the Palestinians.

              The first Jewish militia attacks, says Pappe, began before the May 1948 end of the British mandate. In December 1947 two villages in the central plain — Deir Ayyub and Beit Affa — were raided, and their panicked Palestinian inhabitants fled. Jewish leaders gave the order to drive out as many Palestinians as possible on March 10, 1948. The terror campaign ended six months later. Pappe writes 531 Palestinian villages were destroyed, and 11 urban neighborhoods in cities were emptied of their Palestinian inhabitants.

    • Helen4Yemen

      The following words mean that Jews have a connection to Palestine – watch out for these words of deception!

      1. Anti-Semitic:This term was first used in 1881 by a German Wilhelm Schere to mean hatred towards European Ashkenazi Jews. But for the European Jews it is a welcome new term since it implies that Ashkenazi Jews are from Palestine which they very much yearn to have confirmation as to their claimed origin from Palestine. Since the true genuine Semites are the Arabs, why can’t people use the term ‘anti-Jew’ and not anti-Semitic?

      2. Diaspora: Every Jew in the world is considered to be in the ‘Diaspora’ (always capital D) when living in Europe, America, Asia, anywhere else but Palestine. It is indeed odd because that the Ashkenazi Jew has no lineage to Palestine, none whatsoever.

      3. Aliyah : This is also a term that implies that every Jew on each corner of the Planet has automatic right to ‘descend’ on the land of Palestine by virtue of being a Jew. No permission from the Arab required to stampede towards Palestine. All that is required is that one claims to be a Jew.

      4. Judea and Samaria: These terms are English words that came into being in the 10th century. Jews say what is now called ‘the West Bank’ has a biblical name of ‘Judea and Samaria’. This land is a gift for the Jews from the Jew’s god and is non-negotiable.

      5. Exodus : White European Jews claim that they were slaves in Egypt, then their God then came to the rescue But something happened to the Jews of the Middle East once they reached the shores of white Europe. They morphed into the whitman but unlike the chameleon, the European Jew is unable to morph back to his original
      color. Propestrous!

      • tapatio

        1) Wilhelm Schere was an AshkeNAZI Jew. He invented the term “anti-Semitic” for exactly the purpose Jews use it today…………to shame or endanger those who speak out against Jewish crime.

        I can’t say about Schere, but many of the AshkeNAZI Jews who went on to cause huge disruptions and the deaths of tens of millions had direct connections to the Rothschild family. These included……..

        Karl Marx
        Theodore Herzl
        Vladimir Lenin
        Lev Trotsky ( real name – Bronstein)
        Baruch Levy
        Ze’ev Jabotinsky
        David Grun (aka ben Gurion)

        And many, many more.

        2) The expulsion of the Jews from Palestine (what they call the “diaspora”) was caused by the constant treachery, terrorism, barbarity and corruption of Jews under Roman rule. The Romans brought civilization to Palestine after 600 years of disastrous Jewish rule and almost 300 years of Jewish behaviors under the Assyrians and others. Rome finally realized that wherever there are Jews, there is treachery, corruption, barbarity, chaos and war.

        3) HOW can a cult that STOLE Canaan/Palestine 3000 years ago, acquire “rights” to that stolen property a few thousand years later? Further, since 95% of todays “Jews” are AshkeNAZI – descendents of CONVERTS to the Jewish cult, none of their ancestors had ever resided in that land.

        4) Again, the thieves who STOLE Canaan/Palestine have no “naming” rights. The land was the Kingdom of Canaan for 12,000+ years (that civilization that EVOLVED there and was wiped out by the Jews) and, in 66 BCE the Romans renamed it Palestina, the name it carries today.

        5) The Jew has, I believe, rewritten history in the case of what they call the “Exodus”. There is evidence that the Jews were DRIVEN FROM Egypt – they did not “escape”.
        When the Jewish criminals were driven from Palestine, by the Romans, they were driven into Eastern Europe, a region populated by extremely primitive and barbaric “people”. These barbarians readily adopted the Jewish criminal behaviors and understood that the “faith” was an excellent cover for that criminal cartel. The FEW surviving criminal Jews were absorbed into this far larger community of barbarians. They did not “morph” into whites – they intermarried until any Arab DNA became insignificant.

        • demboj

          Lenin and Trotsky renounced Judaism and were enemies of the Jewish people. All the rest are great Jewish heroes and I honor them. Oh, so now you agree that the Ashkenazim are part of the diaspora (see: lower case)? So now you agree that the Romans stoke the land from the Jews, including the Ashkenazim. And you justify it all because of bad Jewish rulers. How much worse are the Arab rulers? By your argument any people have a perfect right to exterminate the Arabs and take their lands and property for themselves. So now you agree that Israel has a right to Judea and Samaria because the Arab rulers are corrupt. Good show! I love it!

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Ha, ha, you are so deluded that you don’t realize that you’ve revealed that you are aware of how unsound your arguments are by manufacturing all this jibber-jabber.

          • tapatio

            Evidence of the Jewish Rothschild-Bilderberg Criminal Bankster Cartel’s sponsorship of the Bolshevik-Communist “Revolution”. It’s interesting to note that Karl Marx was Jewish and both he and Friedrich Engels had connections to the Rothschild banking family. There is a great deal more evidence that the Rothschilds sponsored the Bolshevik “Revolution” and the slaughter of over fifty million Christian (with some Muslim) Russians. There were almost no Jewish victims of this genocidal act.
            Letters written by Baruch Levy, a close associate of the
            Rothschild family, and by Lev Trotsky/Bronstein…..
            “The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the J6ws will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.
            In this New World Order, the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the J6ws. It will then be possible for the J6wish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state.
            Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which it is said that when the Messianic time is come, the J6ws will have all the property of the whole world in their hands.”
            –Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx (written – 1879), printed in La Revue de Paris, p. 574, June 1, 1928
            “We should turn Russia into a desert populated with white Ni**ers. We will impose upon them such a tyranny that was never dreamt by the most hideous despots of the East. The peculiar trait of that tyranny is that it will be enacted from the left rather than the right and it will be red rather than white in color. Its color will be red literally because we would spill such torrents of blood that they will pale all human losses of the capitalist wars and make (the survivors) shudder.
            THE LARGEST OVERSEAS BANKS WILL COOPERATE WITH US MOST CLOSELY (Rothschild Cartel, which financed the Bolsheviks). If we win the Revolution and squash Russia, on the funeral pyres of its remains we will strengthen thepower of Zionism and become a power the whole world would drop in the face of on its knees. We will show (to the world) what real power means. By way of terror and blood baths we will bring the Russian intelligentsia into a state of total stupor, to idiocy, to the animal state of being…. And so far our young men dressed in leather – the sons of watch repair men from Odessa and Orsha, Gomel and Vinnitza – oh, how beautifully, how brilliantly do they master hatred of everything Russian!
            With what a great delight do they physically destroy the Russian intelligentsia ~ officers, engineers, teachers, priests, generals, agronomists, academicians, writers!” ~ Leib Bronstein (also known as Lev TROTSKY)
            Few in the world today are aware that the original leadership of the Bolshevik-Communist “Revolution” was almost entirely Jewish and VERY FEW WERE RUSSIAN. They slaughtered more than 30 million Russians, Christians and some Muslims, and mostly well educated. No Jews were attacked in this slaughter.
            *************
            Everything below was taken from Wikipedia and verified through at least one other source………….
            Leaders of the Bolshevik/Communist “Revolution” in Russia. These are the people who fomented this
            revolution and carried it out. After they had won, they embarked on a slaughter of 30 Million Russians, ALL Christians and a few Muslims. There were no known Jewish
            victims of this genocidal act.
            Leading Bolsheviks…….
            Vladimir Lenin (aka Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov) Russian, Jewish
            Lev Trotsky (aka Bronstein) Jewish
            Lazar M. Kaganovich Jewish (oversaw slaughter of
            30+ million Russian Christians and Muslims)
            Alexander Israel Helphand [aka “Parvus”] Jewish
            (helped Trotsky develop the theory of “permanent revolution.”)
            Avel Enukidze Jewish
            Mikhail Kalinin Jewish
            Nikolai Bukharin Jewish
            Mikhail Tomsky Jewish
            Mikhail Lashevich Jewish
            Lev Kamenev Jewish
            Yevgeni Preobrazhensky uncertain
            Leonid Serebryakov Jewish
            Vladimir Lenin Jewish
            Alexei Rykov Jewish
            Grigori Y. Sokolnikov Jewish
            Grigory Zinoviev [aka Apfelbaum; aka Radomyslsky
            Jewish
            Felix Dzherzhinsky Jewish
            (founder of Cheka/NKVD/KGB/etc)
            Lavrenti Beria Jewish
            (Turned Cheka/NKVD/KGB into a monster. Beria instigated the mass executions of the Katyn massacre)
            Yakov Sverdlov [aka Solomon] Jewish
            (supervised massacre of Czar’s family)
            Sergei M. Kirov Jewish
            (supervised party purges/executions of late 1930s – 20 million dead)
            Yakov Yurovsky Jewish
            (carried out massacre of Czar’s family)
            (other members of the Czar death squad: Goloshchekin, Syromolotov, Safarov, Voikov, Yurovsky……..all Jewish)
            Nikolai Bukharin Jewish
            Ilya Ehrenburg Jewish (Propaganda Minister)

      • demboj

        You are certifiably insane. There are no such capitalization rules for the words you describe except for the place names which are always capitalized in most languages. Not one of the definitions you use may be found in any Hebrew dictionary or in the dictionary of any other languages so far as I know. The Jews speak a Semitic language called Hebrew, which is very similar to Arabic. The Christian Bible was mostly written in Hebrew. Genetic tests prove that modern day Jews are most closely related to people’s of the Middle East, not the people’s they live amongst. The Jews are, most definitely a Semitic people. Virtually all linguists, historians, and religious scholars agree on these points even if on thing else. The term “Aliyah” for example means to “rise up” not descend and it appears in the Bible to describe going up to the temple to pray or sacrifice. Jesus made Aliyah when He went to the temple to pray. Exodus is capitalized when it is used to describe the Book of Exodus in the Bible, but not on other occasions. Exodus simply means to “depart” as “I wish you would depart this website”. And this is a belief shared by ALL Jews no matter where they live in the diaspora or in Israel. This is the first time in my life that I ever heard that only White Jews believe this. It is false. Similarly, diaspora is a Greek word meaning “scattered” and while I have no objection to it being capitalized, frequently see it in lower case. Naturally, the allegation that Ashkenazi have no connection to the Egyptian slavery is pure trash. Finally, it is “West Bank” that is an English term. It is not mentioned in the Bible, either Jewish or Christian. Meanwhile Judea and Samaria (where the Samaritans lived) is mentioned mentioned often in the Bible. Judea was one of the two Jewish kingdoms destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar in the 6th century BC. If anyone wants to check this for themselves Bibles with indexes are easily available.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          You are lying again through out. Example, the Hebrew Bible was written in Aramaic, not Hebrew, a language that not exist in ancient times and was bastardized from Greek. Another thing is that any line of reason developed by ancient mythology written down with extreme bias is inherently unsound.

          • demboj

            You are a cretin. You are an ignorant fool. Aramaic was the spoken language at about the time of Jesus. Hebrew was the written language of the Jews and except for a few passages the Bible was written in Hebrew. Get some facts before you preach.

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              Ha, ha, you can’t prove any of that. It was the Greeks that translated the Bible from Aramaic. Your claim of ancient Hebrew is a farce. Hebrew scribes translated the Bible erroneously with intention from Greek. You are an insolently arrogant defecation spewer.

              • demboj

                Please keep talking like this. You are really giving the Palestinians trouble. Not even Yassir Arafat, not even the Grand Mufti of Jersusalem ever made such allegations. None of the Christian churches that use the same Bible agree with you. Even Moslems agree that the Bible was written in Hebrew.

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  I’m more educated than they. I can see through your bullbleep here too. You don’t have anything to support your silly, mendacious contentions. Sure, there is a lot of archeological findings, just like all over the Middle East, but none of it supports your nonsense.

        • Helen4Yemen

          1 You are certifiably insane. There are no such capitalization rules for the words you describe

          Diaspora is always capitalized.

          2 The Jews speak a Semitic language called Hebrew, which is very similar to Arabic.

          The German Jew spoke German, the Russian Jew spoke Russian and the Yemeni Jew spoke Arabic. Just because you dug up a dead ME language called Hebrew and started to stutter and stammer does not make you Semitic. Does a Chinese who studies English and begins to speak in English become an Englishman?

          3 Genetic tests prove that modern day Jews are most closely related to people’s of the Middle East, not the people’s they live amongst.

          Wrong! There is not a shred of evidence that European Jews have any genetic connection to the region, none whatsoever! None! Wishful thinking, a fantasy!

          4 The Jews are, most definitely a Semitic people. Virtually all linguists, historians, and religious scholars agree on these points even if on thing else.

          See No 2 above.

          5 Exodus simply means to “depart” as “I wish you would depart this website”.

          All that ‘Exodus’ story is a fairytale, just ancient stories with nothing to back it up, nothing found of such a people having living in Egypt and departed, nothing! Only fairy tales.

          6 And this is a belief shared by ALL Jews no matter where they live in the diaspora or in Israel.

          There is no ‘diaspora’ if what is meant is a German Jew is in the ‘diaspora’ when not on the soil of Palestine. The German Jew is right at home in Germany.

          7 Similarly, diaspora is a Greek word meaning “scattered”

          Nobody scattered! The Khazars converted to Judaism and started to call themselves ‘Jews’ just like Muslims call themselves Muslims.

          8 Naturally, the allegation that Ashkenazi have no connection to the Egyptian slavery is pure trash.

          See No 5 above.

          9 Meanwhile Judea and Samaria (where the Samaritans lived) is mentioned often in the Bible.

          The words ‘Judea and Samaria are English words that came into use in the 10th century. What other words were used instead before the 10th century.

          10 Judea was one of the two Jewish kingdoms destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar in the 6th century BC.

          See no 9.

    • Helen4Yemen

      This article is about the balkanization of the Arab states and I had expected the author would mention Oded Yinon’s document ‘The Zionist Plan for the Middle East , but he did not. There is no better way to understand what is happening in the Middle East than to read this document.

      The Zionist Plan for the Middle East by Oded Yinon – a MUST READ

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    • Helen4Yemen

      https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/idf-3b.png?w=990

      The Ashkenazi Jew reserves the claim of ‘Diaspora’ only unto himself and dreads the notion that African Jews too could have originated from Palestine. To that claim by African Jews, the Ashkenazi is adamant the African Jews have no roots in Palestine, only he and the Arab Jews do. Of course, it reeks of racism. But the African Jews have their version of the ‘Diaspora’ that also excludes the white Jew of Europe. It is a battle of who is the most genuine Jew from Palestine. The more the genuine the Jew is confirmed to be from Palestine, the better.

      • demboj

        I am an Ashkenazi. I am 68 years old. Never once in my entire life have I ever heard any Jew from any background deny the rights of African Jews to return to Israel. Israel has made heroic efforts to rescue Jews from oppression by Christians and Muslims in Africa, an effort that continues to this day. Hundreds of thousands of African Jews live in Israel today and are regarded as equally Jewish as Ashkenazim and Sephardim. There is no battle between these groups. All serve proudly and in large numbers in the IDF.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          You are a liar. The ZioNazi thug coagulation throttling Palestine has always been severely racist.

    • Helen4Yemen

      https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/idf3.png?w=990

      Who in their right mind believe that these Ashkenazi Jews ‘Diaspora’ from Palestine! This claim is the mother of ald delusions, and yet, there are only about 10 Ashkenazi Jews who are free of this delusion.

      • demboj

        That “delusion” comes from Jews praying, generation after generation, for 2000 years to be allowed to return to their “homeland” the Land of Israel.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          But when did you white Europeans convert to Judaism (about 1200 years ago?) and when did you dream up this sick Zionist plan to steal another people’s country? (about 200 years ago?) Or do you you just make up “facts” whenever you need a few?

    • Helen4Yemen

      https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare23.jpg?w=990

      Be careful, very careful with the word ‘Diaspora’ (usually with capital D). It is yet another way for

      Ashkenazi Jews to attach their anchor to Arab Palestine. What they mean by ‘Diaspora’ is that the European

      Jews left Palestine and no matter how many millennia they were absent from ‘their land’ that they have

      automatic rights to the land. Absurd and preposterous! ! Can anyone in their right mind believe this nonsense

      that the Ashkenazi Jew on the left and the Arab Jew on the right both did ‘Exodus’ at the same time and one

      MORPHED into a European and the other did not? Total nonsense!

      • demboj

        The Jews did not just “leave” Israel. They were forcibly exiled by stronger armies. The Jews also never left entirely. Even the Koran says that Israel in the Land of the Jews. Maybe Arabs who are swimming to Europe today, have decided to “leave” their homes on a whim and have lost their right to return to their homes, too.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          But you white European Ashkenazi of an entirely different people were never expelled. You have no rights in Palestine by heritage. You are savage frauds.

    • Helen4Yemen

      [1.Jews in the Diaspora
      2.Diaspora Jews
      3 the Diaspora

      The author of this article has used the word ‘Diaspora’ (capital D) 3 times. People have to make sure that they understand it is a term that implies Jews originate from Palestine, of course, Ashkenazi Jews have zero lineage to Palestine as they are Europeans. Azmi Bishara a Palestinian Christian politician who was the former member of the Knesset from 1996 until resigning in April 2007 had this to say about the word ‘Diaspora’.
      ____________

      A word of caution: “Diaspora” is a religious term that has been given a Zionist bent to imply that the “land of Israel” is the historic homeland of the Jews and that Jews elsewhere are in a state of dispersal or exile. Arab intellectuals and writers would be advised to avoid the term. Jews are actual citizens in the countries in which they live, not scattered exiles from an original homeland called Israel.

      • demboj

        How ignorant can one person be? The Bible explains that Abraham, the ancestor of both
        Jews (through his legitimate son) and Arabs (through his illegitimate), came from Ur, which is in present day Iraq. G-d directed him to move to the Land of Canaan, which he gave to Abraham and his descendants forever. Since then, Present day Israel has been the homeland of the Jews. Palestine is just the Roman name for the Jewish lands they stole. Since then Jews have always lived there, never totally abandoning it, never giving up their rights to it, continually praying to return to it, and finally winning back their rightful lands by defeating those who occupied it illegally.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          But the Bible is just a collection of myths written by ancient, savage bigots, trying to justify the vast evils they perpetrated on other people.

          Again, the Semite were just 2-4% of the population, and much more closely related to their Semite relatives, then to the alien white European Ashkenazi thugs.

    • robert e litman

      “As cynical as it might be to say this, Israel’s goal was for rivers of blood to flow in Syria. And that’s exactly what’s happened. The more Syrians killed each other, the less they would kill Israelis. Chaos in Syria was Israel’s friend. Leading Islamophobe analyst Daniel Pipes advocated such a view, and it clearly resonated with Israeli military strategic and policy analysts as well.”
      So, you are saying that this was part of Israel’s master plan? Assad, Iran, Hezbollah, ISIS, Russia have nothing then to do with this? Sounds like you think that Israel (read Jews) control world events. What are you using as your source for this, protocols of the elders of Zion??? Youre too biased to admit that the Arab world has and will continue to have a hard time dealing with the democracy. This war with its 450,000 dead and 4 million refugees displaced to Europe started becuase Syrians actually demanded free speech/thought rights, freedom of the pres, and freedom to criticize the government, and they were put down violently by the pro0Iranian, Pro0Russian, Pro0-Hezbollah narciccistic clan of Assad violently — that was when the first deaths began, no Israelis involved. Please stop using old anti-semitic tropes to make Israel’s efforts to survive in a violent Arab World part of every problem the world has.

      • tapatio

        The various major terror organizations were founded by the Israel, the US and Saudi Arabia as vehicles for destabilization, regime change and to maintain fear in the population (primarily of the US and Europe), making huge expenditures of lives and money “acceptable” to the sheeple.

        Both the United States government and the Saudi Arabian regime are puppets and proxies of the Criminal, Predatory Capitalist Cartel whose seat of power is……

        Rothschild Bank
        New Court
        St Swithin’s Lane
        London EC4N 8AL
        United Kingdom
        That cartel created Zionism, the Saudi “royals” and the Bolshevik “Revolution” as vehicles to expand its power. Bolshevism (Communism) failed. Zionism (Judeo-Fascism) has, so far, succeeded.

        First is a plan, written for Netanyahu’s reign as Emperor of Greater Israel. The writer is the pseudo-American Zionist fanatic, Richard Perle………

        http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1438.htm

        Excerpt………..
        “………by establishing the precedent that Syrian territory is not immune to attacks emanating from Lebanon by Israeli proxy forces.”

        Next is a report A Report of The Project for the New American Century completed in September 2000………..

        https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3K_gsf7UCTI/maxresdefault.jpg

        http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

        Compare actual events from 2001 to date to the plans outlined in this “report”. Please note, at the end of the report, the list of fanatical Zionists and their sycophants who are responsible for……

        “REBUILDING AMERICA’S DEFENSES Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century”

        Exercpt…………
        “Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right”

        Paul Wolfowitz
        William Kristol
        Alvin Bernstein
        Eliot Cohen
        David Epstein
        Donald Kagan
        Fred Kagan
        Robert Kagan
        Robert Killebrew
        Steve Rosen
        Gary Schmitt
        Abram Shulsky
        Dov Zakheim

    • Max1967

      There is not such thing as “Palestinians”. The partition of the Middle East to countries is a result of European colonialism. Jews have always lived in this Land, before the Zionist immigration and before the Arabs invaded it.

      Most of what you call “Palestinians” are also new comers and their decedents. Unlike the Zionists who glorified the narrative of Immigration, the Arabs did the opposite. But facts are facts.

      The newly invented nation of “Palestinians” wants another Arab state? Aren’t there enough Arab states?

      Is it puzzling that when convenient the colonial and imperial approach is selected. The division of the Middle East to states (like Africa) is an outcome of the colonialist imperialist European states. Suddenly we have kingdoms no one ever heard of, states that never existed.

      • Not Convinced

        You are the terrorist we need to fight. You fool no one. Israel is the biggest obstacle to peace and you are now losing. Only 20,000 Jews lived in Palestine at the turn of the 19th century, while a million Arabs called this home. Let’s not forget that there is zero evidence of a Jewish presence before 1250 bce. You weren’t the first there and won’t be the last. Your evil WILL be defeated…

        • Max1967

          This is time to stop the Arab occupation.

          Jews have been living in the Land of Israel for thousands of years; even during times that most of the Jewish people was at exile, and before the Arab occupation and colonization of the land.

          It is mind boggling how people are willing to accept this ongoing occupation, just because they think Arabs lived there sine dinosaurs time.

          Most of the Arab immigrated there parallel to the Zion – ist immigration in the new era. Read the Ottoman census, the British census and understand the Arab names and origins.

          Take a look at the big picture; a huge part of the globe is Christian, another huge part of the globe is Mus – lim. There is a little tiny piece of land for the Jews, and the Liberals of the free world want to take it away.

          Jews lived in the Holy Land before the Arabs, and they lived there always. The fact that they were occupied by Arabs and others does not take their right for the land.

          See table from Wikipedia Demographics of Palestine

        • These racist ignorant freaks are some of the most antisemitic of all. American Jews do not believe in this nonsense. All educated people on this planet understand that words of the Balfour Declaration which gave Israel life. Israel was carved out of the existing state of Palestine held in a “sacred civilizational trust” at least twenty-four years before Israel was even created.

          Educated people understand that it is pure chutzpah and a lie to destroy the Jewish national home given by the world in UNGA 181, because Israel cannot manage to stay within the borders that it declared to the UN Security Council and to President Truman.

          Educated people understand that there are now 6.3 Million Palestinians to 6.3 million Israeli Jews in Greater Israel. Educated people can do the math. Israel is toast. It is too late for Israel to make peace now. The 6.3 Million Palestinians are not going anywhere because we said NEVER AGAIN.

          Therefore, Israel will have to learn to live with the people they have so severely wronged for so many years. There is no other choice available to the Israelis. And the most chilling irony of all? What goes around comes around.

          — Proud supporter of Jewish Voice for Peace.

          • Helen4Yemen

            https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/side-by-side6.jpg?w=990

            What are the chances that the two Jews on the picture could have anything else in common except for religion? Nothing! Nada!

            Tell me the reason one more time why a foreign European people are occupying our land?

            1. Jew-God gave it to them?
            2. Holocaust
            3. coming back
            4. The UN gave it to Euro-Jews
            5. Britain gave it to Euro-Jews

          • tapatio

            The Zionist criminals IMMEDIATELY violated the terms of the “Balfour Declaration” (bought by the Rothschilds)……………….

            His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

        • demboj

          According to Ottoman statistics, there were only about a third of a million Arabs in the Land of Israel at the beginning of the 19th century, and only a few tens of thousands of Jews. After that time the ratio moved in favor of the Jews until 1940 when the Jewish population neared 600,000 while the Arab population was over 1,000,000. But whatever the numbers it is clear that the Arabs had a majority in 1947. Nevertheless, the Jews defeated the Arabs, and all 5 Arab armies that came to invade the new state of Israel, resulting in an independent Israel. Today, the Jewish population of Israel has surpassed 6 million and is growing rapidly and there are less than 2 million Arabs. In other words the Palestinians are relatively speaking in far worse condition than in 1947. Not only that but the Arab states, like Jordan and Egypt, have made peace with Israel and cooperate closely with Israel in many different security areas. The other Arab states that joined the war against Israel in 1947, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon are badket cases of mainly their own making. None of them is able to help Palestine. Most of them are more worried about the threat from Iran or ISIS than from Israel. Where is there an Arab state that is more capable of fighting Israel, today, than it was in 1947? You tell me. You are reduced to pathetic racist mewlings that have no bearing upon reality. I guess it must frustrate you to see a confident, powerful Jewish state facing down great powers, able to challenge regional powers like Iran and Turkey ( who now comes begging for oil and gas), that leads the world in several types of technology and exports military hardware to every great power, including Russia, China, India and the US, not to mention the Europeans. Indeed, Israel is probably stronger than all the Arab states put together. It has a larger Army than either the U.K. or Germany. You make threats and issue personal insults. You call people names. But who pays attention to you? Just this week, the U.K. agreed to make it illegal for local governments to join BDS campaigns against Israel. That does not sound like the anti-Israel forces are winning anything. Already, Israel is one of the longest lasting regimes in the Middle East. It is the Arab states that have come and gone. Anything may happen. That is true. But I think none of the others can match Israel in anything except issuing bloodthirsty threats.

          • Not Convinced

            Another puff of hot air is all you offer. The world is breaking free from the bull and ready to hold the most evil country(Israel) accountable for their crimes against humanity. You are nothing without America and only our non- representative politicians and a few ignorant christians support Israel. We the American people will personally prosecute your crimes when we take our own government back. Evil will always lose and Hebrew Arabs will be thrown into yet another period of diaspora.

            • Not Convinced

              Oh, and you need to jump off the racism bandwagon. Jewish is a religion not a race. You try so hard to be different to differentiate yourselves. In the end the chosen people in the Torah were Arabs and this can never change. So, you are either an Arab or a convert.

          • tapatio

            Apparently, the Jews’ hasbara project isn’t capable of teaching the hasbarats to form paragraphs.

            As usual with these ZioPig trolls, this one is a liar. There were close to a million Arab Christians and Muslims in Palestine 120 years ago. There were also about 17,000 Jews, mostly European Hasidics in Jerusalem and dependent on charity from Europe for survival, since the Hasidic Jews are parasitic.

            From 1930 on, the Jews operated several terrorist gangs, totaling about 20,000, which attacked both the unarmed Arab Christians and Muslims and the British troops and officials in Palestine. These, Eastern European thugs slaughtered tens of thousands of Arabs and drove almost a million out of Palestine by 1948, according to the British and the UN. These terrorists formed the core of the “IDF” and gave it the, ah, unique character it has today. So, the Jew troll lies again.

            It is true that, due to the predations of the Jews, the Arab Christians and Muslims are in far worse condition today than in 1947. It is also true that Jordan and Egypt have been paid HUGE BRIBES, by Washington, to be nice to the AshkeNAZI pseudo-Jews occupying Palestine. The masters of the Zionists in London (the Rothschilds, who spawned the Zionist/Israeli disease) also own the Saudis and the other rich Gulf states who are the puppets of the Rothschild banksters.

            Obviously, Iran is (unless the Jews use nuclear/biological/chemical weapons) quite capable of defeating the Jews occupying Palestine. The Jews are completely incapable of fighting Iran on land, lacking ANY transport for their military and the Iranians have conventional missile capabilities equal to those of the Jews.

            Anyone capable of finding Palestine and Iran on a map will know that the Jews are concentrated in a very small target-rich area, while Iran is a huge widely dispersed country. If the Jews attempted to use nuclear, biological or chemical weapons, the rest of the world (probably including the US) would have no choice but to obliterate the Israeli disease.

            The Jew troll, “demboj” apparently hasn’t noticed the 2014 BBC Global Opinion Survey, which ranked Israel and its cult-ure as tied with North Korea for the title of Country With Most Negative Value in the World. That survey came out before the Jews’ Summer, 2014 slaughter of 2400 innocent Palestinians in the Gaza Concentration Camp. After that massacre, Israel won the title of Most Despised State with no trouble.

            Very few on this Earth will mourn the eradication of the Zionist Disease and its tumor called Israel.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Nasser — He who does not own has made a promise to he who does not deserve. Then both he who does not own” and “he who does not deserve” were able, through force and deceit, to usurp the right of the legitimate owner and take away from him what he owned and deserved. This is the true picture of the Balfour declaration: Britain’s pledge, promising in a land she does not own, but is owned by the Arab people of Palestine – a Jewish home in Palestine. On the individual basis, Mr. President, not to speak of the international basis, the picture as such shows a clear case of larceny in which any ordinary court can convict those responsible.” Letter from President Nasser to President Kennedy 1961

      • Helen4Yemen

        https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/4-euro-jews.jpg?w=990

        Tell me that European Jews are the only people on earth who can morph from one race to another? Right? These on the picture are European Jews, are they not? Well, let me tell you to your face: we do not nor had we ever had people who look like these! ALIENS!

        • demboj

          Jews are not a race. There are Jews from every race. Anyone who becomes Jewish joins the Jewish people and gets equal rights as Jews. Moslems do the same thing.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Good! You finally admit that Jews in general have no right to Palestine, only those Semites, Arab Jews, just like the other Semites, Arab Muslims and Christians, and whatever.

          • Helen4Yemen

            MuslimS recognize that Nigerian Muslims are Nigerians and Indonesian Muslims are Indonesians and Russian Muslims are Russians and Indian Muslims are IndianS. DID YOU GET THAT?

            But the EUROPEAN Jews try to deceive the world that theY have ancestry in Palestine. Guess what? The Indonesian Muslim does not claim to be from the land of the prophet nor does the Chinese Muslim. That is the difference. You see, Yemeni Jews do not look like Iraqi Jews but they look like Yemeni Jews. Why do you think that is? Because they are Yemeni in everything else and Jew in religion. But we can go round and round and round for 1,000,000 rounds and you will clutch onto your delusional claim of being from the Arab region. YOU ARE NOT!

          • Helen4Yemen

            ASHKENAZI GENETIC DISEASES

            Tay-Sachs Tay-Sachs disease

            1 in 30 in Ashkenazi Jews

            1 in 300 in Arab Jews!

            BRCA mutation

            1 in 40 Ashkenazi Jews

            1 in 345 in the general population

            ARAB JEWS = ARAB,

            ASHKENZI JEWS = EUROPEAN

            No genetic connection between the two.

      • tapatio

        The United Nations, in a vote of 130 to 9 in 2012, says you are a LIAR. Palestinians have been Palestinians for 2000 years. The Jews, on the other hand, held Canaan/Palestine for LESS THAN 600 years before being defeated by the Assyrians.

        • demboj

          When were the Palestinians rulers in Palestine? Please refresh my memory. Give me the dates.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Why? They were pagan, Jewish, and Christian under many rulers before most of them converted to Islam.

            See? You keep busting up your silly case for white European invaders to have any right in Palestine whatever nonsensical mythology they dream.

            • demboj

              So you agree that Palestinians never ruled in Palestine. Indeed according to you it doesn’t much matter who rules the Palestinans. If they were given a state it would be the first time they ever ruled anywhere. I think that proves they have no right to the land of Israel. Tenants are not owners. It seems according to you that they change their religion whenever a new invader comes along. Maybe they don’t really believe in anything. In any case, people like that will never rule themselves anywhere. They certainly have no hope of defeating Israel.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                That is babble. The true owner of Palestine are the people living there, and you white alien ZioNazi bigots never lived there until you savagely and recently invaded.

              • tapatio

                The Jew is, as Thomas Jefferson said, always foreign to the land in which they reside. Jews hold Palestine, but it is not and never will be theirs.

          • tapatio

            Jews ONLY “ruled” in Canaan/Palestine after they had committed genocide against the Canaanites in order to steal their kingdom. And, the Jews ONLY ruled there for less than 600 years, from about 950 BCE to 351 BCE, when they were defeated by the Assyrians.

            A gang of Eastern European animals certainly has NO RIGHT to rule anything on this Earth – Jews have proven that beyond any possible doubt.

          • Helen4Yemen

            ==>>Were there Palestinian Jews in Palestine or not?
            What is your answer? <<==

            • demboj

              You didn’t answer my question: When were the Palestinians rulers in Palestine? Let me answer for you: never, never, and never. But I”ll answer your second question anyway. Jews have never ever called themselves “Palestinians” anywhere at any time. There is not such thing as a Palestinian Jew. It’s like calling an African American man a “boy” to call a Jew a Palestinian. It is an insult to refer to a Jew as a Palestinian. Palestine was the name the Romans gave to the lands they conquered from the Jews and occupied. Every single history of the period agrees on this. Consequently the entire population of Palestine minus the Roman rulers was Jewish. Therefore, it is undoubted true that there have always been Jews in the lands the Romans and the British called “Palestine”. From antiquity to the present there has never been a moment when there were no Jews living in the region so of course there has always been a Jewish population in the Land of Israel. When the British arrived in 1917, they called the local Jews “Palestinians” copyng the Roman model. But the Jews never called themselves that. Neither did the local Arabs. The British promised the Arabs a state of their own if they helped the British World War I. After the war the British were nearly as good as their word. They and the French set up many Arab states. But the Arabs were disappointed that the British also set up a national homeland for the Jews called “Palestine”. The Arabs hated this. The Muslims and Christians refused to use the term “Palestinian” and insisted that they were not a separate people from the Arabs in Syria or Trans-Jordan, Lebanon, or Egypt. All references to Palestinians between 1917 and 1947 refer to Jews. The Arabs insisted that they were one people and not different nations and all were simply “Arabs”. When the Jews won their independence in 1948 and subsequently defeated the armies of 5 Arab nations and the local Arab terrorists, they immediately named their nation Israel, the name of one of the ancient kingdoms of the Jews to distinguish it from the colonial term “Palestine”. Nearly two decades after the Jews dropped the name of Palestine, in 1964, the Arabs decided to reverse course, and adopted the name of “Palestinians” for themselves. But pardon me if I don’t take that seriously. They have every right to call themselves what they like, but they have never been rulers in the land and they have never had any state in their entire history. They rented land from the Turks and before the Turks, from the other rulers of the land. They never even wanted to be an independent people until they began to think that if they were an independent people they might be in a better position to seize the land from the Jews. As one who lived through the period of 1947-1964, I remember distinctly how the Arabs, led by Nasser, proclaimed that there was only one single Arab nation, that all the Arab states were colonial relics and that Arab Nationalism, his creed, would destroy Israel and add the land to the single Arab state. He even made some progress and with the leaders of Syria and Jordan formed the United Arab Republic. If you look at the flag of Palestine, today, it looks like the flag of the UAR. When the Arabs attacked Israel in 1967 by militarizing the Sinai and blockading the straits of Tiran, they were acting as the UAR not as independent states. The so-called “Palestinians” may fool yokels like you but they cannot fool anybody who knows their perfidious history in the region. After Israel defeated the UAR in 1967, the Palestinians abandoned Arab nationalism and Nasserism and started their terror campaign, funded by the USSR, to create a Palestinian state. They tried to seize Jordan in 1970 and had to be crushed by King Hussain and his army in a short bloody war, in which Israel saved Jordan from defeat. They continually undermined the states of Lebanon and Syria. They have tried to assassinate the King of Saudi Arabia. They have allied with the Muslim Brotherhood to overthrow the government of Egypt. Indeed, since 1967 the other Arabs have regarded the Palestinians with distaste bordering on contempt for having abandoned the Arab cause. It is only idiots like you — Europeans, leftists, anti-semites, etc. — who swallowed that propaganda. That is the real history of the land.

              • Helen4Yemen

                1 Jews have never ever called themselves “Palestinians” anywhere at any time. There is not such thing as a Palestinian Jew. It’s like calling an African American man a “boy” to call a Jew a Palestinian. It is an insult to refer to a Jew as a Palestinian.

                https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/comapre40.jpg?w=990
                These are Yemeni Jews, right? Were they not called Yemeni? Were there no Iraqi Jews, Syrian Jews, Egyptian Jews and so on? But in your desperate attempt to erase the name of Palestine, you are performing somersaults. You cannot do it. If there were not Palestinian Jews, then what kind of Jews were they? The European Jew has no place in Palestine because he is European. Let me ask you this: Do you know of any European Jew who even remotely resembles these Yemeni Jews?
                ………..

                2 Consequently the entire population of Palestine minus the Roman rulers was Jewish.

                https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare24b.jpg?w=990
                You keep saying ‘Jewish’ but what I am trying to make you understand is that the European Jew is totally alien to the region. Look at the pictures. Do you really believe any of these European Jews could even remotely have any genetic relations to the Arab Jews?
                ………..

                3 Therefore, it is undoubted true that there have always been Jews in the lands the Romans and the British called “Palestine”.

                https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare-oren-duke.jpg?w=660
                You see, it is not ‘Palestine’ that belongs within quotes but the European Jew who claims the most absurd claim to originate from the region. Look at pictures of an American Jew and an American Christian. Are they not both Europeans? Look athe picture again.
                ………..

                4 From antiquity to the present there has never been a moment when there were no Jews living in the region so of course there has always been a Jewish population

                https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/idf3.png?w=990
                You keep repeating as if the repetitions will make what is false true. False is false and true is true. These European Jews have no ancestry to Palestine, none whatsoever!

              • Helen4Yemen

                Ariel Sharon — We’ll make a pastrami sandwich of them, … we’ll insert a strip of Jewish settlements in between the Palestinians, and then another strip of Jewish settlements right across the West Bank, so that in 25 years’ time, neither the United Nations nor the United States, nobody, will be able to tear it apart. (Ariel (Arik) Sharon, 1973)

                Balfour — [I]n Palestine we do not propose even to go through the form of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants of the country … The four powers are committed to Zionism and Zionism, be it right or wrong, good or bad, is rooted in age-long tradition, in present needs, in future hopes, of far profounder import than the desire and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land.

              • Helen4Yemen

                Balfour — “His Majesty’s Government view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.” The Balfour Declaration to Baron Rothchild, on the 2nd of November, 1917

                Bertrand Russell — “No people anywhere in the world would accept being expelled en masse from their own country; how can anyone require the people of Palestine to accept a punishment which nobody else would tolerate?” — Bertrand Russell, British philosopher, mathematician, historian, social reformer, and pacifist, 1970.

              • Helen4Yemen

                David Ben-Gurion— ” I would suggest to you to come round in time to the “Greater Palestine” program before it is too late… the Basle program must contain the words “Great Palestine” or “Palestine and its neighboring lands” otherwise it’s nonsense. You do not get ten million Jews into a land of 25,000 Km2?. ” The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill — From the Nile to the Euphrates.” – Ben Gurion: In 1899, Davis Triestsch wrote to Herzl:

                David Ben-Gurion — “We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?’ Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said ‘Drive them out!’” Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

      • Helen4Yemen

        https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/compare35.png

        Jews have always lived in this Land, before the Zionist immigration and before the Arabs invaded it.

        Yes, true ‘Jews’ lived in Palestine, but NOT the European Jew as he is a recent immigrant who used the holocaust as an excuse for a land grab? Do you-in your right mind-believe the Jew on the left has any ancestry in Palestine? If you say yes, then you are OUT OF YOUR MIND!

    • Max1967

      “These are Israel’s allies in the region: the dictators, the inbred royal families, the oligarchs, the warlords,”
      I have news for you: all Muslims countries are led by dictators.
      Democracy does not work for the Arabs; in elections are imposed, it brings the rise of a more extremist regime, and no more elections are expected.
      See Gaza.

    • demboj

      Silverstein asks why if Jews rushed to Israel’s defense when Israel was threatened during the 1967 war, the Arabs may not be equally concerned about Israel’s “occupation” of the historical Jewish homeland? Better to ask why Jews are not calling upon their children to attack and murder Palestinians who are calling for the total destruction and elimination of the Jews from Israel.

      • Uh huh. We should discount then the weddings where crazed Zionist whackjobs are dancing around with automatic weapons and stabbing photos of innocent little girls. We can just ignore Lehava, and the chants of “death to the Arabs” at Israeli ballgames. We can ignore that Israel was built upon Ethnic Cleansing and terrorism.

        Sure buddy. The world used to ignore it, then the Internet came along…

        • Max1967
          • tapatio

            There is no difference between the clinical definition of sociopathy and the behaviors of Zionism and its sycophants……………
            • Glibness and Superficial Charm
            • Manipulative and Conning
            They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
            • Grandiose Sense of Self
            Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”
            • Pathological Lying
            Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
            • Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
            A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
            • Shallow Emotions
            When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
            • Incapacity for Love
            • Need for Stimulation
            Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
            • Callousness/Lack of Empathy
            Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
            • Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
            Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
            • Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
            Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
            • Irresponsibility/Unreliability
            Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
            • Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
            Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
            • Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
            Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
            • Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
            Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

        • demboj

          Michael Hess: Your point seems to be that Jews don’t have the right to have a country. I disagree. Israel has a right to all the land of Israel, including that which it seized from Jordan during a justifiable war of self-defense. The UN and the civilized world agrees with me not you. Even the Soviet Union agreed that Israel has a right to exist. Even Mr. Silverstein, whose article I was criticizing, will agree with me about this. The Israelis are under constant attack from the Arabs and are defending themselves and have a perfect right to defend themselves. It is the Arabs who deny that Israel has a right to exist anywhere. Israelis don’t say that the Arab nations don’t have a right to exist. They have offered to give the Arabs land for a state in exchange for peace. The Arabs have refused. They have evacuated land (Gaza & Lebanon) to the Arabs. Again the Arabs have refused. They simply cannot tolerate the existence of a Jewish state. So be it. Israel does not need to give the Arabs land for nothing. So long as the Arabs refuse to recognize what all the civilized world, including the UN, agree upon, Israel is perfectly justified in keeping and expanding its hold over the land. Frankly, I hope the Arabs listen to lunatics like you. Let them refuse to negotiate. Let them demand that Israel be driven into the sea. Let them promise to refuse to allow any Jews to live in Palestine, if it ever comes into being. You equate dancing at a wedding, with murdering people in the street with knives or ramming them with cars. Let the Arabs listen to you. I hope they do. The longer they do this, the less land there will be for their proposed state. Pretty soon there will be nothing for them to negotiate over. By the way, Israel’s population is 20% Arab. Does that sound like ethnic cleansing to you? The real ethnic cleansing is what is going on in all the Muslim lands surrounding Israel. Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen are now practically free of Christians. The Arabs, Turks, and Persians are busy exterminating all their minority groups in front of your eyes and yet you attack the only state in the region where ethnic cleansing is not state policy.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Your point seems to be the white Ashkenazi Europeans of no demonstrable ancestry in Palestine have the right to construct a spurious mythology by which they evilly claim the right to steal somebody else’s country.

            You, not the genuinely Semite Arabs, are the lunatics, very dangerous ones totally uncaring of the misery you cause others in the exercise of your savage predatory greed.

      • Helen4Yemen

        https://worldpeace365.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/side-by-side4.jpg?w=990

        How do you spell F O R E I G N E R?
        Which one looks indigenous to you and which one foreign?

        There is a stark difference between the wannabe and the indigenous? No?

        • demboj

          It is pure racism to determine nationality on the basis of physical appearance. You should know better.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Really, you the savage invader of other people’s countries claims that?

            Isn’t Zionism the most vicious expression of racism you can get?

      • tapatio

        HERE IS JUDAISM IN PALESTINE…………………….

        Israelis torturing non-Jewish children. Australian documentary film. Viewer discretion.
        https://youtu.be/iqL048x4msM?t=12

        Jews Blow Up and Kill Palestinian Boy By Force-Feeding Him Gasoline
        http://nodisinfo.com/rabid-zionist-jews-burnt-palestinian-youth-alive/

        “Concentrate” and “exterminate”: Israel parliament deputy speaker’s Gaza genocide plan
        https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/concentrate-and-exterminate-israel-parliament-deputy-speakers-gaza-genocide-plan

        Leading Rabbi Encourages IDF Soldiers to Use Palestinian Human Shields
        http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/leading-rabbi-encourages-idf-soldiers-to-use-palestinian-human-shields-1.320311

        UN: Palestinian Children Tortured, Used as Human Shields by Israel
        http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.530993

        Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail
        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/21/israeli-soldiers-human-shield-avoid-jail

        IDF T-Shirts Boast of Killing Babies, Pregnant Women, Sodomizing Hamas Leaders
        http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2009/03/20/idf-t-shirts-boast-of-killing-babies-pregnant-women-sodomizing-hamas-leaders/

        IDF snipers caught on camera shooting at Gaza children and celebrating a ‘hit’ http://www.sott.net/article/284427-IDF-snipers-caught-on-camera-shooting-at-Gaza-children-and-celebrating-a-hit

        Take No Prisoners – The Fatal Shooting of Palestinians by Israeli Security Forces during “Arrest Operations”
        http://www.btselem.org/download/200505_take_no_prisoners_eng.pdf

        Human rights situation in Palestine and other Jewish occupied Arab territories
        http://www.globalresearch.ca/un-report-on-palestine-military-occupation-apartheid-torture-israeli-violations-are-deliberate-organised-and-institutionalised/5372212

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtbPzcOIEAMoomd.jpg

        http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tyousennkiller4649/imgs/a/6/a638be3a.png

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZYOubgAKsE&feature=youtu.be&list=PLnGWccEbmocv9kXd9MMF4UaNkqmuJpntC&t=27

        This decorative beast is the JEWISH state’s “Justice” Minister………
        https://theuglytruth.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/img_34037169524460.jpeg

        • demboj

          Nobody believes your lies. Everybody knows that Arabs lie continually. Everybody know that from the Czars to the Nazis to the Islamists to the anti-Semites, like yourself, there is a single unbroken tissue of lies. If you assembled all the lies in the world it could not justify the destruction of Israel.

          • tapatio

            On the contrary, Judeo-Nazi monkey, the majority of humans on Earth already despise your filty Zionist disease and the criminal state it spawned. Israel will vanish and, hopefully, the world will remember that the Jew cult can NEVER be trusted.

            You are truly detestable, treacherous, barbaric and alien creatures, EXACTLY as Voltaire described you…………….

            The Jewish nation dares to display an irreconcilable hatred toward all nations, and revolts against all masters; always superstitious, always greedy for the well-being enjoyed by others, always barbarous–cringing in misfortune and insolent in prosperity.

            You will only find in the Jews an ignorant and barbarous people, who for a long time have joined the most sordid avarice to the most detestabJe superstition and to the most invincible hatred of all peoples which tolerate and enrich them.

            • demboj

              Tapatio: Your remarks are pure fascist racism and will undoubtedly be banned from Discus. Keep a civil tongue in your head.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Flagged for hypocrisy.

              • tapatio

                According to surveys published in various US media, Jerusalem Times, Haaretz (Israeli liberal paper), the ADL and many Jewish anti-Zionist organizations and experts, between 65 and 85% of the world’s 14 million Jews support Zionism, Israel and their behaviors. From having been once involved with a US synagogue and what I am told by Jews in BDS, I know that many US synagogues are deeply involved in Zionism.

                The US banking industry supports Zionism/Israel through its corruption of Congress and the White House. That industry is predominantly Jewish controlled.

                More than 90% of the US mainstream media is owned by six corporations, all with controlling interest in the hands of Jews. Rupert Murdoch was raised as a Jew, whatever he may be now – other than sleaze. The US mainstream media never publishes the truth about Palestine or the Middle East.

                Jews comprise two-tenths of one percent of the world population and two percent of the US population. Yet, they comprised more than 85% of America’s white collar criminals (with takes over $10M) in the last 30 years.

                Jews traditionally give the least, of all religious/ethnic groups, to charitable causes/disaster relief/etc. Their donations are normally geared to having a program or facility named after them or being listed as donors.

                There are many INDIVIDUAL Jews who are quite admirable. Einstein, Salk and many other Jews have made significant contributions to humanity. My BDS group of just over 1200 has more than 100 Jews as members, though few of those Jews want to be seen as supporting BDS because they say they will be ostracized from their synagogues, families, social groups.

                The Jews have been expelled from more than 100 countries over the last 2000 years. To my knowledge, almost 80 of those expulsions were preceded by periods of growing Jewish crime, corruption, treachery and barbarity. The rest are more ambiguous, with no reliable confirmation of the accusations against the Jews.

                Hitler rose to power for ONE reason – the Rothschild Cartel’s rape of Germany after WW I. The Rothschild Banking Cartel is a Jewish organization. Without their stripping of all German assets after that war and the resulting starvation of millions of Germans, Hitler could never have gained traction with the people and close to 100 million lives would have been spared.

                By comparison to Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and other world religions/ethnic groups, Judaism has, throughout its history, been an overall negative influence on humanity.

    • Shawn5676

      Just a bunch of psychopaths running around and murdering innocent people for political, monetary and energy gains. It’s really quite simple. Oh but what’s on TV tonight?? lol

      • tapatio

        You think that it’s funny? Your tax dollars are paying for this slaughter by Jewish dominated Washington.

        • demboj

          I support tax dollars going to strengthen Israel and so do the vast majority of Americans.

          • tapatio

            The “vast majority” of Americans do not support your filthy cult. The majority of Americans still have the delusion that the Judeo-Naz! state can exist, but are sick of carrying you parasites.

            If the Jew can’t maintain its own state, let it vanish. Nothing about your cult is of value to the world.

            • demboj

              The vast majority, a landslide majority, of about two-thirds supports Israel. I wasn’t talking about religion. But I have also seen polling data that shows Judaism to be one of the most strongly supported and admired religions in America. You obviously can’t tell the difference between a religion, a nation and a state and thus have no business talking about any of them. Israel is the only real state from the Nile to the Indus. All the others are really combinations of family or tribal gangs. It is the Arab states who begging for help these days, not Israel. I glad that America supports Israel and I am especially glad that America makes you pay for your sins through tax dollars. You’re a real Zionist. But you’re totally wrong that Israel needs American support to survive. Israel appreciates American support and thanks America for but Israel has survived quite well without it from 1948-1973, and will certainly survive quite well without it again, if necessary. In fact, Israel provides many benefits to America that are vital to America’s national security, including priceless intelligence, military equipment, electronics and other high tech systems and designs. Even the European nations, in which your type of Arab racism is more common than in America, are beginning to see the light. The Europeans have retreated on their effort to label products made in Judea and Samaria, making it a local and not an EU wide matter and the British government has this week made it illegal for local governments to join boycotts against Israel. When even the Europeans abandon the Palestinians you know the end is coming soon for them. . . . But not for Israel.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Then you have confessed to being a contemptible thief in another way.

        • Shawn5676

          I think you missed my point. I’m on your side :/

          • tapatio

            Sorry, I wasn’t in a great mood.

            • Shawn5676

              It’s all good bro/sis 🙂

              • tapatio

                :<))