Israel’s Apartheid Policies Create Hurdles For Team Palestine On The Road To Rio

From blocked shipments of equipment to a lack of access to Olympic-sized, or even just adequate, training facilities, the six athletes of Team Palestine have overcome the odds to compete in the 2016 Games.
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    RIO DE JANEIRO — Under the stifling conditions of the Israeli occupation, Palestinians who dreamed of competing in the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro faced challenges few other world athletes could even imagine, but with perseverance and ingenuity, six are now living their Olympic dreams.

    Though most of the Palestinian Olympic team — a marathoner, two swimmers, a sprinter, an equestrian, a judoka, and their coaches — lack state-of-the-art, or even sufficient, facilities and equipment with which to train, these six athletes did not let adversity and bitterness stand in their way.

    Olympic policy might officially denounce politicization in favor of the unity of world competition, but by the very act of bringing together athletes from nearly every corner of the globe, the games incidentally accentuate various international conflicts — perhaps none more so than that of the ongoing Israeli occupation of Palestine.


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    “I’m very proud to be going to Rio. And to represent Palestine,” swimmer Mary al-Atrash told CBC News. “I also have the responsibility of highlighting that we are living under great difficulties.”

     

    ‘This is something to be proud of’

    Mary al-Atrash, a 22-year-old swimmer set to compete in the 50-meter freestyle heats on Aug. 12, had no choice but to train in inadequate facilities — a limitation ordinarily considered debilitating for a competitive swimmer — as no Olympic-sized pool is accessible in Palestinian territories. Appropriate accommodations nearby were theoretically available to Atrash had she applied for access, as several media outlets have pointed out. But those sources failed to note that Palestinians are rarely, if ever, given permission to use them.

    Travel restrictions, arbitrary delays or detainments by Israeli checkpoint guards, and denials of requested access by Israel’s government, make modern facilities little more than an unreachable carrot-on-a-stick to Palestine’s aspiring Olympians. Occasionally, needs as basic as water are in scarce supply: During the Islamic holy month of Ramadan this year, Israel ultimately admitted to severely curtailing the flow of water to the West Bank.

    So they are instead forced to make due — and, in some cases, innovate — in order to properly train. For Atrash, this meant swimming at a YMCA whose 25-meter length pool is just half the length of an Olympic-sized pool. This forced her to flip-turn during training, rather than swim the full 50 meters like she will in competition.

    “Because of all the difficulties that Palestinians live under,” Atrash, the youngest member of Team Palestine, continued, “it makes it harder to practice and compete in our sports.”

    Given these constraints, the Palestinian presence in Rio — the country’s largest team yet to compete in the Olympic Games — evidences the athletes’ indomitable strength of spirit.

    “Our presence in any international event is important because it shows our ambition. It shows our strong will,” Mousa Nawawreh, the swimmer’s coach, told CBC News.

    “I am very happy that there is someone from Palestine who will represent us in the Olympics,” Nawawreh beamed to Reuters. “This is something to be proud of, especially with the limited resources we have.”

    Atrash had to rely on guidance from her coach instead of training with other swimmers, and only recently traveled to Algeria where she plunged into an Olympic-sized pool for the first time. But in coping with the smaller pool, her times weren’t sufficient to qualify for the Olympics under normal circumstances. Her personal best time in the 50-meter freestyle, 29.91 seconds, fell shy of the 25.28-second Olympic benchmark to compete.

    Fortunately for the Palestinian team, the International Olympic Committee recognizes that not everyone can access appropriate training conditions. The governing body offers a program to allow athletes from compromised circumstances, who wouldn’t ordinarily qualify, to compete in the Games.

    “Preparations are going well, and considering the resources we have … we are able to achieve our best and set goals and ambitions,” Atrash told Reuters. “I am so happy, representing Palestine in competitions is a dream for any Palestinian athlete, especially the Olympics.”

     

    Team PLE

    Another swimmer, Ahmed Jibril, faced similar trying circumstances in training for his second Olympic appearance. Jibril, who finished 29th in the 2012 Olympics in London, didn’t advance past the men’s 200-meter freestyle heats on Sunday.

    Like Mary al-Atrash, Jibril understands the stiff competition is made all the more strenuous by the restrictive situation in occupied Palestine, but he is thrilled even to be able to compete against the world’s best athletes. Jibril also believes raising the Palestinian flag on the international stage stands as a strong reminder to the world of Palestinian persistence and genuine love of life.

    Mayada al-Sayad, a marathoner with dual German-Palestinian citizenship, will be the first Palestinian ever to compete in that Olympic event, which takes place on Aug. 14. Sayad, differing somewhat from the other athletes, dismissed the political ramifications of her place on the Palestinian team.

    “Palestine wants to build up a team for Rio,” she said last year, adding: “I don’t have political but only sporting reasons to compete for Palestine.”

    Another team member, Simon Yacoub, a German and Palestinian judoka, failed to advance through the preliminary rounds on Saturday.

    Watch My Way to Rio. Simon Yacoub:

    Equestrian Christian Zimmermann, a third Palestinian-German, finished at the top in the field from Africa and the Middle East, and will now be the first dressage competitor to represent Palestine in the Olympic Games.

    Mohammed Abu Khoussa set two Palestinian records for sprinting prior to qualifying for this year’s Olympic team — once in the 2013 Athletics World Championship, and again in 2014 — by finishing first in the 200-meter and third in the 100-meter sprints during an international tournament in France. Abu Khoussa, who won bronze at the Asian Indoor Athletics Championship in February, will compete in a 100-meter preliminary race on Aug. 13.

     

    ‘I just keep going forward’

    Not every athlete struggling to qualify for the Olympics will make it to the Games, though not for lack of effort.

    Like Mary al-Atrash, runner Mohammed al-Khatib dealt with problematic circumstances in training for the Olympics, but he, too, persisted more to represent Palestine in Rio than for any personal glory.

    “I want to win an Olympic medal for Palestine. I know it’s the hardest thing to do, but I’m going to try,” Khatib told Al-Jazeera in March.

    “To represent Palestine at the Olympics is bringing hope to my people.”

    Mohammed al-Khatib warming up before a training session at the local school running track in Hebron. (Photo: Eloise Bollack/Al Jazeera)

    Mohammed al-Khatib warming up before a training session at the local school running track in Hebron. (Photo: Eloise Bollack/Al Jazeera)

    In Hebron, Khatib and his fellow countrymen face some of the worst effects of Israel’s occupation, as continuing clashes between hostile illegal settlers and Palestinian residents mark daily life in the divided city.

    No track is available with the proper surface to alleviate physical stress on runners’ bodies, nor are the equipment and trainers Khatib and other track and field competitors so desperately need. Rather than succumbing to the defeat of onerous circumstances, Khatib set out to fulfill his Olympic aspirations, turning to YouTube for training tips when a coach could not be attained.

    “I knew I had two options,” Khatib told Al-Jazeera. “I would either start blaming the world for not having a decent track or equipment and I would just give up. Or I would try to find my way around it and that’s what I did.”

    Most often relegated to running in the streets, Khatib occasionally managed to gain access to tracks at Birzeit University or high schools in Ramallah. Restrictions on hours, however, made those facilities only a minimal part of his workouts.

    “When the tracks weren’t open, I would train on the streets,” he explained. “Access to the school was either early in the morning — before classes started around 6am — or after the school day was finished at 4pm, and usually I would have to work at this time or I would be tired.”

    Birzeit’s track, as the news outlet noted, has an asphalt surface, which can cause injury, and at 84 meters in length, it falls short of what’s necessary for the Olympic-length sprints Khatib would have run in Rio. But for three years, Khatib’s training in these conditions paid off — the athlete shaved his 100-meter sprint time from 15 seconds to 11, falling excruciatingly shy of the 10.16-second time required to compete in the Games.

    “I know a lot of athletes in Palestine face all these difficulties and at some point they give up,” Khatib said. “I almost gave up at one stage, but it’s really just about going forward regardless if I’m crawling, walking or running.”

    “I just keep going forward and here I am, I’m so close.”

     

    Palestinian ambition, pride trumps Israeli apartheid, medals

    Obstacles on the road to Rio weren’t limited only to athletes on the Palestinian team.

    Recent reports indicated the head of the Palestinian delegation, Issam Qishta, had been prevented from leaving Gaza by Israeli authorities.

    “Israel did not give Issam Qishta a permit to leave Gaza and therefore he was not able to join the rest of the Olympic team in Brazil,” Munther Masalmeh, secretary-general of the Palestinian Olympic Committee, told Dpa news agency on Aug. 2, according to Al-Jazeera.

    The spokesman for Israel’s foreign ministry, Emmanuel Nahshon, countered that the government was working to allow Qishta to join his team: “We do our best to let him leave as soon as possible.”

    As if all of these hurdles weren’t trying enough, Palestine’s athletes had to travel to Brazil without any of their necessary equipment. Israel prevented those supplies, much of which was donated by foreign governments, from reaching occupied Palestine by enforcing taxes or excess fees — often in the name of security concerns.

    “We got one shipment several months ago and we have not been able to bring it in,” Masalmeh explained. “We were forced to travel without our equipment and to buy them instead in Brazil.”

    These sometimes crushing handicaps faced by Palestine’s Olympians prove an endurance and inextinguishable strength of spirit. Despite the duress of apartheid conditions present in their homeland, Palestinians are now proudly representing their country in Rio as a united force to be reckoned with, albeit not necessarily through a trove of medals.

    “It’s a good chance to represent Palestine, to tell the world that Palestine is there and that one day Palestine will be free,” Palestinian sports journalist Umar Hammad told CBC News. “To tell the world our story through sports, to tell the world our culture, our daily life.”

    Images of the opening ceremony in Rio evidenced the Palestinian team’s accomplishments by reminding the world each competitor faces unique challenges in making it to the Olympics — struggles many world athletes might never overcome in a similar situation.

    “There is a lot of pride in our team,” said Hammad. “Not to win medals, but to represent the Palestinian people.”

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      • Samir Halabi

        The religion of Peace can’t even refrain from importing their Jew-hatred Politics into the Rio-Olympics.
        When Muslims learn to respect other religions and cease inflicting their religion and culture on others, maybe and maybe only then can you then start to call Islam a religion of Peace.

        • CathyL2

          You do know that Palestinian is not synonymous with Muslim, don’t you? The athletes religions weren’t mentioned in the article. Perhaps the bigot is yourself.

      • James Wherry

        Palestinian and Arab apartheid against Jews rears its ugly head in Rio. Apparently it’s so expected, MintPressNews doesn’t even think it’s “news.”

        http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Hostilities-Israeli-Athletes-Olympics/2016/08/11/id/743207/

        Israeli Athletes in Rio Face ‘Shocking’ Hostility From Muslims
        By Mark Swanson | Thursday, 11 Aug 2016 01:49 PM

        The International Olympic Committee delivered a reprimand and the Anti-Defamation League was among groups who issued statements regarding hostilities toward Israeli athletes at the Olympic games in Rio, The Washington Times reported.

        A member of the Lebanese delegation blocked Israelis from boarding a bus taking athletes to the opening ceremonies, and a Saudi judo athlete forfeited a match reportedly to avoid competing against an Israeli.

        The IOC reprimanded the Lebanese delegation for the incident, one which they didn’t deny, but instead bragged about.

        “I had to physically stand at the door and block (Israel’s trainer) and the rest of the delegation from boarding, knowing that some were trying to force their way through and were looking for trouble,” said Saleem al-Haj Nacoula, the head of Lebanon’s delegation, according to the Times’ story.
        There’s more on the story…

        • Samir Halabi

          Aren’t you the brave person.
          You are just simply a disgusting Jew-hating person.
          There is no sportsmanship in what you have done, blocking the way for an Israeli Olympic team of 47 to board and share a bus.with your 9 member Olympic team.
          Leave your Politics at home, if you can’t then don’t participate in the games!!!!

          • Samir Halabi

            Please not!! the previous message was not meant for James Wherry but someone else.
            looks like that person got lost somewhere else.

            • James Wherry

              Lol! I had wondered!

              The greater issue is not the ugly unsportsmanlike conduct, but a sense of superiority by these individuals that rears its ugly head with the way that Jews, Cootic Christians and Muslim minotities are treated

      • James Wherry

        Wouldn’t it be nice, if Christians in the middle east were not subject to Muslim Apartheid policies?

        Insult after Injury: Egypt’s Muslim-Christian ‘Reconciliation Meetings’

        by Raymond Ibrahim
        Coptic Solidarity
        http://www.copticsolidarity.org/2016/08/08/insult-after-injury-understanding-egypts-reconciliation-meetings/
        August 11, 2016

        http://www.meforum.org/6186/egypt-muslim-christian-reconciliation-meetings

        Originally published under the title “Insult after Injury: Understanding Egypt’s ‘Reconciliation Meetings’.”

        We often hear about Egypt’s Christians being attacked by Muslim mobs. What we rarely hear about is what happens afterwards. Are the culprits imprisoned? Are the victims compensated? Do authorities take measures to help prevent such attacks from happening again?

        While the acquainted reader may correctly assume no, the anatomy of what always takes place is of interest.

        First, the attack itself is often based on the accusation that some Christian dared overstep his bounds, that is, he broke Islam’s supremacist dhimma contract .

        Christians trying to build a church romantically involved with Muslim girls ,
        or insulting Muhammad —all banned according to Islam—are typical violations that prompt large, armed Muslim
        mobs to attack all the Christians in that village (and their church if one exists) as a form of collective punishment, which is also Islamic .

        Security forces take their time getting to the scene of anti-Christian mob attacks.

        While the attack is in progress, the besieged Christians do the only thing they can: frantically call the local police and/or state security.

        Based on private conversations with those involved, formal complaints from the Coptic Orthodox Church of Egypt, and objective media reporting, here’s what happens practically every single time:

        Police and state security take their time to get to the scene, allowing the mob ample time to riot with impunity. It is not uncommon for authorities to arrive two or three hours after a mob attack commences—even when they are
        closely stationed.

        For example, after 3,000 Muslims rose in violence against the Christians of a village near Alexandria in 2012, it took the army an hour to arrive—even though it was stationed a mere mile away: “This happens every time,” said a Christian eyewitness. “They wait outside the village until the Muslims have had enough violence, then they appear” (Crucified Again ,
        p. 175).

        After the uprising has fizzled out, authorities arrive. Instead of looking for and arresting the culprits or mob ringleaders—or, as often is the case, the local imam who incites the Muslim mob against the “uppity infidels” who need to be reminded of “their place”—authorities gather the leaders of the Christian and Muslim communities together in what are termed “reconciliation meetings.” During these meetings, Christians are asked to make further concessions to angry Muslims.

        Authorities tell Christian leaders things like, “Yes, we understand the situation and your innocence, but the only way to create calm in the village is for X [the offending Christian and extended family, all of whom may have been
        beaten] to leave the village—just for now, until things calm down.” Or, “Yes, we understand you need a church, but as you can see, the situation is volatile right now, so, for the time being, maybe you can walk to the church in the next town six miles away—you know, until things die down.”

        Christian victims are regularly placed into a room with their persecutors for a ‘reconciliation meeting.’

        Needless to say, things never “die down” or “return to normal.” Christians who agree to banishment are seldom allowed reentry and churches rarely resume being built, for the mob will rise up again.

        To be sure, when the authorities arrive to the scene of the crime, beaten and robbed Christians regularly reject the idea of being placed into a room with their persecutors in a mock reconciliation meeting that has proven time and
        again only to add insult to injury.

        But when they rebuff the authorities’ offer and demand their rights as citizens against the culprits, the authorities smile and say “okay.” Then they go through the village making arrests—except that most of those whom they arrest are Christian youths. Then they tell the Christian leaders, “Well, we’ve made the arrests. But, just as you say so-and-so [Muslim] was involved, there are even more witnesses [Muslims] who insist your own [Christian] youths were the ones who began the violence. So, we can either arrest and prosecute them, or you
        can rethink our offer about having a reconciliation meeting.”

        Under the circumstances, dejected Christians generally agree to the further mockery. What alternative do they have? They know if they don’t their youth will certainly go to prison and be tortured. In one recent incident, wounded Christians who dared fight against Muslim attackers were arrested and, despite
        serious injuries, held for seven hours and prevented from receiving medical attention.

        This issue of reconciliation meetings is so prevalent and prevents Copts from receiving any justice that a 2009 book, titled (in translation) Traditional Reconciliation Sessions and Copts: Where the Culprit Emerges Triumphant and the Victim is Crushed, is entirely devoted to it. According to a review of the book,

        In some 100 pages the book reviews how the security apparatus in Egypt chooses to ‘reconcile’ the culprits and the victims in crimes where churches are burned; Coptic property and homes plundered, and Copts themselves assaulted, beaten and sometimes murdered; and when even monks are not spared. Even though it stands to reason that such cases should be seen in courts of law where the culprits would be handed fair sentences, this is
        almost never allowed to take place. And even in the few cases which managed to find their way into the courts, the culprits were never handed fair sentences since the police invariably fell short of providing any incriminating evidence against them.

        The farcical scenario of reconciliation sessions has thus without fail dominated the scene where attacks against Copts are concerned, even though these sessions proved to be nothing but a severe retreat of civil rights.

        Politically speaking, the authorities aim—through the reconciliation sessions—to secure a rosy façade of the
        ‘time-honoured[‘] amicable relationships between Muslims and Copts’, implying that they live happily ever after. The heartbreaking outcome, however, is that the only winners in these sessions are the trouble mongers and fanatics who induce the attacks in the first place and who more often than not escape punishment and emerge victorious. The Coptic victims are left to lick their wounds.

        Worse, not only are the victims denied any justice, but the aggressors are further emboldened to attack again. As Coptic Bishop Makarious of Minya recently put it in the context of discussing how Coptic Christians are now being attacked at the rate of every two or three days :

        As long as the attackers are never punished, and the armed forces are portrayed as doing their duty, this will just encourage others to continue the attacks, since, even if they are arrested, they will be
        quickly released.

        Raymond Ibrahim is a Judith Friedman Rosen fellow at the Middle East Forum and a Shillman fellow at the David
        Horowitz Freedom Center

      • tapatio

        THIS IS JUDAISM in Palestine…………….

        A cult capable of committing, supporting and defending the crimes below IS A DISEASE and should be eradicated from this Earth …………….

        Jews Blow Up and Kill Palestinian Boy By Force-Feeding Him Gasoline
        http://nodisinfo.com/rabid-zionist-jews-burnt-palestinian-youth-alive/

        IDF snipers caught on camera shooting at Gaza children and celebrating a ‘hit’
        http://www.sott.net/article/284427-IDF-snipers-caught-on-camera-shooting-at-Gaza-children-and-celebrating-a-hit

        UN: Palestinian Children Tortured, Used as Human Shields by Israel
        http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.530993

        Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail
        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/21/israeli-soldiers-human-shield-avoid-jail

        “Concentrate” and “exterminate”: Israel parliament deputy speaker’s Gaza genocide plan
        https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/concentrate-and-exterminate-israel-parliament-deputy-speakers-gaza-genocide-plan

        Leading Rabbi Encourages IDF Soldiers to Use Palestinian Human Shields
        http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/leading-rabbi-encourages-idf-soldiers-to-use-palestinian-human-shields-1.320311
        http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.304104.1280124970!/image/275686031.jpg_gen/derivatives/headline_609x343/275686031.jpg

        IDF T-Shirts Boast of Killing Babies, Pregnant Women, Sodomizing Hamas Leaders
        http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2009/03/20/idf-t-shirts-boast-of-killing-babies-pregnant-women-sodomizing-hamas-leaders/
        https://occupiedpalestine.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/enjoyed-israeli-tshirt.jpg?w=588&h=441
        http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/tyousennkiller4649/imgs/a/6/a638be3a.png
        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtbPzcOIEAMoomd.jpg

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZYOubgAKsE&feature=youtu.be&list=PLnGWccEbmocv9kXd9MMF4UaNkqmuJpntC&t=27

        Jews Murdering and Harvesting the Organs of Palestinian and Kidnapped Children
        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/17/world/middleeast/transplant-brokers-in-israel-lure-desperate-kidney-patients-to-costa-rica.html?_r=0

        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs

        http://www.wrmea.org/2009-november/israeli-organ-harvesting-from-moldova-to-palestine.html

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/21/israel-admits-harvesting_n_399623.html

        http://www.counterpunch.org/2009/08/28/israeli-organ-harvesting/

        http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/12/21/israel.organs/

        Take No Prisoners – The Fatal Shooting of Palestinians by Israeli Security Forces during “Arrest Operations”
        http://www.btselem.org/download/200505_take_no_prisoners_eng.pdf

        Human rights situation in Palestine and other Jewish occupied Arab territories
        http://www.globalresearch.ca/un-report-on-palestine-military-occupation-apartheid-torture-israeli-violations-are-deliberate-organised-and-institutionalised/5372212

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtvtQL9CMAADAcf.jpg

        • James Wherry

          This list is the usual lies and half truths – as I have repeatedly shown.

          TAPA-FILTH maintains his hatred of ALL JEWS by claiming that “This is JUDAISM,” proving once again that he is simply a Jew Hate my NAZ!

          He thinks that these allegations represent the religion of Jill Stein and her family. How can anyone cite for her, then????

      • James Wherry

        Having lost the argument, Tecumseh wants to change the subject from the actual “news” article.

        But my question remains: why did the Palestinians not simply build Olympic facilities with all of their cement and mortar and bricks and steel, rather than building terror tunnels to murder Israelis civilians?

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Note: Helen put a lot of good stuff here.

        I did this because i wanted to get rid of the DISCUS junk from Wherry.

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Record.

        • James Wherry

          Getting rid of my “discus?” How about the shot put?

      • James Wherry

        Sounds like the Palestinians should have invested money in education, not munitions.

      • James Wherry

        The Palestinians should try building a nation, rather than creating an “apartheid State.”

      • James Wherry

        “Tecumseh” seems so desperate to try and change the subject from the fact that the PALESTINIANS spend ALL their time and resources, trying to murder JEWS, rather than trying to build a nation.

      • TecumsehUnfaced

        Study the pictures very carefully to see how the European ZioNazi genocidal country stealers have immiserated the Palestinians.

        Here is some of many history sources you can find on the Internet that show the horror the ZioNazi invasion…

        http://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/11/the-battle-for-palestine/
        http://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/23/the-battle-for-palestine-part-two/
        http://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/24/the-battle-for-palestine-part-three/

        by William R. Polk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_R._Polk ), who taught Middle Eastern history and politics at Harvard

        http://www.1948.org.uk/

        http://imeu.org/article/the-nakba-65-years-of-dispossession-and-apartheid

        http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41864.htm

        http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html

        • James Wherry

          Study the murders of Jews by Palestinians and not the “cut and paste” lies by Tecumseh. http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1691

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            CAMERA is a ZioNazi propaganda site. It ignores these crimes by the ZioNazi thugs…

            Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

            Over 600 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED

            Ordered the attack on over 700,000 Arab Jews to drive them into conquered Palestine

            • James Wherry

              Once again, all you can do is to repeat your lies. this is the 2nd time on this thread and it STILL doesn’t work. YOU STOLE JEWISH HOMES AND JEWISH LAND in 23 nations the Jews lived in, BEFORE the coming of the illegal Arab jihadist invaders.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Already refuted. You ZioNazi thugs attacked too many people with too many people.

                • James Wherry

                  You simply want to “take away” from the Jews, not build a Palestinian nation.

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    Absurd! The Arab Jews of Palestine belong in Palestine, but not the evil alien European ZioNazi genocidal country stealers.

                    • James Wherry

                      Israel belongs to the Israelis. The Palestinians can have “Palestine,” if you EVER ESTABLISH IT.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        There are no Israelis, only ZioNazi country stealers squatting in their thugdom on stolen land.

                        • James Wherry

                          Then there’s no one for you to ethically cleanse. Problem solved.

                          Meanwhile, since there is NO NATION OF PALESTINE, there are no PALESTINIANS.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          That is stupid. The people do not stop existing when alien thugs are brutally occupying them. The French did stop existing when the Germans occupied them. So the Palestinians have not stopped existing because the evil alien ZioNazi thugs have occupied them.

                        • James Wherry

                          Then they are “Ottomans” because that is the las nation b fore Israel.

                          But thanks; just because the criminal Arab jihadists invaded Israel does not mean the Israelis stopped being Israelis.

                    • James Wherry

                      So the expulsion of Jews by the Palestinians was a CRIME and the plan to remove the Jews is a CRIME YOU SUPPORT.

              • tapatio

                JAMES WHERRY is a “hasbara” troll for the outlaw Jewish state and a child molester who is too cowardly to face the possibility of prison (and the monsters that would use him there) and so chooses the youngest possible “legal” boy from a culture where the boy is so desperate to escape the poverty that he will accept ANY humiliation.

                THIS is the sort of filth that makes up Zionism and its ranks of Gentile sycophants.

                Even though Wherry was an officer in the US military, his first loyalty is obviously to Zionism. Zionists follow the Jewish “Chosen” Master-Race delusion promoted in Judaism’s Talmud.

                Wherry resides, with his boy paramour, Mario, at 6300 MILGEN RD APT 1403 COLUMBUS, GA 31907, (15 minutes from the gate of School of the Americas – the world’s largest death squad and terrorist training facility) should anyone wish to drop by to say, “HI”.

                http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article29462263.html

                HILARIOUS………..
                “I’m very happy about it,” James Wherry said. “Marriage is the bedrock of our society. I hope that same-sex couples can rejuvenate and revitalize marriage and give it the respect it is due.”

                I don’t really think that Wherry is qualified to “REVITALIZE MARRIAGE AND GIVE IT THE RESPECT IT DESERVES” with his perverted man-boy love predatory relationship

                James Wherry said he and Mario Jay Wherry met through gaymatchmaker.com. James Wherry proposed and flew to the Philippines to hold an engagement party with Mario Jay Wherry and his family. Mario Jay Wherry arrived in the United States at the end of May.

                Wherry and his little paramour at their “wedding”. Being gay is one thing. Sexual use of someone young enough to be his child, and who would do ANYTHING to escape the disgusting poverty and violence of a culture like that in the Philippines, makes Wherry a s-xual predator.

      • James Wherry

        Oh, cheer up! The Pals already got the gold!

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          But their homeland is still stolen by the European ZioNazi thugs!

          • James Wherry

            The 900,000 Jews whose LAND AND HOMES YOU STOLE came from the middle east and were never in Europe, Dimwit. Your thugs force-marched Jews out of the West Bank and Gaza AFTER the ceasefire. Lying and Denying won’t work for you, any more.http://flashbak.com/photos-of-palestine-and-israel-1930-1949-24753/

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              Sorry, never would have happened without the savage invasion of Palestine by the evil European ZioNazi thugs..

              Actually, the expulsion of the Arab Jews was another machination of the Ben-Gurion by which he planned to fool and terrorize the Arab Jews into Palestine to serve the victorious European Zionist invaders of Palestine as laborers and farmers. It was Ben-Gurion who ordered the Zionist assaults on the Arab Jews.

              Zionist crimes against the Jews
              http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2013/11/11/zionist-crimes-against-the-jews

              Zionist terror against the Jews
              http://www.inminds.co.uk/jews-of-iraq.html

              False flag of the Lavon affair
              http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html

              All planned and ordered by David Ben-Gurion
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Plan

              Thanks for reminding us that the assault of the alien European Zionist Ashkenazi invaders was not just against the people of Palestine but against all the Arab Jews. Thanks for reminding us of the vast evil of the European Zionists in forcing two Million Arab (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) people from their homes.

              • James Wherry

                Then why did your filthy Arab murderers drive the Jews out of the JEWS LANDS???

                http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1691. Quotes, below.

                Anti-Jewish Violence in Pre-State Palestine/1929 Massacres

                Arab violence against Jews is often alleged to have begun with the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 or as a result of Israel’s capture in 1967 of territories occupied by Jordan. But even before the Mandate for Palestine was assigned to Great Britain by the Allies at the San Remo Conference (April 1920) and endorsed by the League of Nations (July 1922), Palestinian Arabs were carrying out organized attacks against Jewish communities in Palestine. Systematic violence began in early 1920 with murderous assaults by groups of local Arabs against settlements in the north and by Muslim pilgrims against Jerusalem’s Jews. Again in 1921, Arab rioters attacked Jews in Jaffa and its environs. The primary agitator behind these attacks was Haj Amin al Husseini, who marshalled Arab discontent over Jewish immigration into violent riots.

                In 1929, Husseini and his associates fomented a violent jihad as they called upon Muslims to “defend” their holy places from the Jews. As a result, pogroms were carried out across Palestine. Arab villagers sympathetic to Jews were often targets of murderous attacks by their Arab brethren as well. British forces were sharply criticized for not policing the territory adequately, for sympathizing with the Arabs, and for standing by and allowing havoc to be wreaked upon Jewish communities in Palestine.

                In 1936, the Arab Higher Committee, led by Grand Mufti Husseini, launched a campaign of anti-Jewish violence across Palestine. Accompanied by a six-month-long strike, the campaign became known as “The Arab Revolt.” As the British increasingly became targets of Arab violence, they used massive force to suppress the aggression. The revolt was finally quashed in 1939. The resulting White Paper of 1939 reversed British commitment to a Jewish State (the raison d’etre of the Mandate) and drastically limited Jewish immigration into Palestine. 1920-21: Attacks and Riots Josef Trumpeldor

                Organized anti-Jewish violence began in earnest at the beginning of 1920. In January, Arab villagers attacked Tel Hai, a Jewish settlement in the Galilee near the Syrian border (then under French control), killing two members. Two months later, on March 1, 1920, hundreds of Arabs from a nearby village descended on Tel Hai again, killing six more Jews. Among them was Josef Trumpeldor — a Russian wartime hero who had fought in the Russo-Japanese war and who organized the defense of the settlements in the Galilee.

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  You obviously don’t understand that the basic aims of political Zionism is stealing a country and driving the indigenous inhabitants out.

                  What really happened was that the Zionist movement, from the beginning, looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the indigenous Arab population so that Israel could be a wholly Jewish state, or as much as was possible. Land bought by the Jewish National Fund was held in the name of the Jewish people and could never be sold or even leased back to Arabs (a situation which continues to the present).

                  The Arab community, as it became increasingly aware of the Zionists’ intentions, strenuously opposed further Jewish immigration and land buying because it posed a real and imminent danger to the very existence of Arab society in Palestine. Because of this opposition, the entire Zionist project never could have been realized without the military backing of the British. The vast majority of the population of Palestine, by the way, had been Arabic since the seventh century A.D. (Over 1200 years)

                  In short, Zionism was based on a faulty, colonialist world view that the rights of the indigenous inhabitants didn’t matter. The Arabs’ opposition to Zionism wasn’t based on anti-Semitism but rather on a totally reasonable fear of the dispossession of their people.

                  One further point: being Jewish ourselves, the position we present here is critical of Zionism but is in no way anti-Semitic.

                  http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html

                  • James Wherry

                    The reference you quote is a bigoted reference so it has “no value.” You apparently do not understand the religious bigotry you are supporting. I do.

                    • TecumsehUnfaced

                      Yes, Alison is a Jewish person bigoted toward decency, not ZioNazi country stealing.

                      • James Wherry

                        Funny, your friend tapatio says she knowingly belongs to a “3000 year old criminal cartel.” Shouldn’t she be sent to the gas chambers by your people – again??

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          You lie again.

                        • James Wherry

                          Oh? Are you DENYING that Tapa-pig has called Judaism a “3000 year old criminal cartel?!?”
                          http://www.mintpressnews.com/islamophobia-industry-spent-206m-building-hatred-us-heres-create-love-instead/217662/

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Who is Tapa-pig? Another myth of the evil ZioNazi thugs that stole Palestine?

                        • James Wherry

                          Oh? You don’t know your NAZ! buddy “tapatio?” He’s quite a pig. It is his quotes to murder Jews that you were denying.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Actually, by your avatar, photos, and what you say, you are quite a porker of a crudely rooting ZioNazi thug.

                        • James Wherry

                          Apparently you and that 69-year-old pedophile, TAPATIO think you can cover up your Jew Hatred and lack of intelligent scholarship through personal insults.

      • James Wherry

        This “news” story was about the lack of Olympic training facilties among the Palestinians. So they want more “welfare,” eh? Perhaps if they used the cement and gravel they have to support their team, instead of building terror tunnels, they would have had those facilities. http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/08/07/hamas-militant-killed-gaza-tunnel-collapse/

        The Palestinian leaders: “Rob our people blind and blame the Israeli Jews.”

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          But the underlying story is that Palestinians lack in their own country, which has been genocidally stolen from them by the merciless ZioNazi country stealers.

          • James Wherry

            When the Holocaust happened, your people murdered 5.7 million Jews from Europe. Today, 1.9 million Palestinian Arabs live in pre-1967 Israel and 4 million more live in the West Bank and Gaza. T

            There has been NO “genocide,” except the one that YOU and the Palestinians are trying to implement on the Jews of Israel.

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              You are lying. The affair in Europe was between Europeans, which gives the ZioNazi genocidal country stealers no rights to do their floods of atrocities in Palestine.

              You stupid. This is genocide according to the U.N.

              Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

              Over 600 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED

              • James Wherry

                Those people left ON THE ORDERS OF THE ARABS. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/refugees.html

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  You lie again! They left because of the massacres, murders, and terror of the evil ZioNazi thug country stealers.

                  • James Wherry

                    Your lie is easy to refute. The following is a quote from the jewishVirtualLibrary, in case you want to pull that “plagerism” lie, again. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/refugees.html

                    All of those who left fully anticipated being able to return to their homes after an early Arab victory, as Palestinian nationalist Aref el-Aref explained in his history of the 1948 war:

                    The Arabs thought they would win in less than the twinkling of an eye and that it would take no more than a day or two from the time the Arab armies crossed the border until all the colonies were conquered and the enemy would throw down his arms and cast himself on their mercy.

                    By the end of January1948, the exodus was so alarming the Palestine Arab Higher Committee asked neighboring Arab countries to refuse visas to these refugees and to seal the borders against them.

                    Meanwhile, Jewish leaders urged the Arabs to remain in Palestine and become citizens of Israel. The Assembly of Palestine Jewry issued this appeal on October 2, 1947:

                    We will do everything in our power to maintain peace, and establish a cooperation gainful to both [Jews and Arabs]. It is now, here and now, from Jerusalem itself, that a call must go out to the Arab nations to join forces with Jewry and the destined Jewish State and work shoulder to shoulder for our common good, for the peace and progress of sovereign equals.

                    On November 30, the day after the UN partition vote, the Jewish Agency announced: “The main theme behind the spontaneous celebrations we are witnessing today is our community’s desire to seek peace and its determination to achieve fruitful cooperation with the Arabs….“

                    Israel’s Proclamation of Independence, issued May 14, 1948, also invited the Palestinians to remain in their homes and become equal citizens in the new state:

                    In the midst of wanton aggression, we yet call upon the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve the ways of peace and play their part in the development of the State, on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its bodies and institutions….We extend our hand in peace and neighborliness to all the neighboring states and their peoples, and invite them to cooperate with the independent Jewish nation for the common good of all.

                    Caught in the Middle

                    Throughout the period that preceded the May 15 invasion of the Arab regular armies, large-scale military engagements, incessant sniping, robberies and bombings took place. In view of the thousands of casualties that resulted from the pre-invasion violence, it is not surprising that many Arabs would have fled out of fear for their lives.

                    The second phase of the Arab flight began after the Jewish forces started to register military victories against Arab irregulars. Among the victories were the battles for Tiberias and Haifa, which were accompanied by the evacuation of the Arab inhabitants.

                    A newly released British document indicates officials were aware of the reason Palestinians were fleeing:

                    The [Palestine] Arabs have suffered a series of overwhelming defeats….Jewish victories … have reduced Arab morale to zero and, following the cowardly example of their inept leaders, they are fleeing from the mixed areas in their thousands. It is now obvious that the only hope of regaining their position lies in the regular armies of the Arab states (Barry Rubin, “How the Palestinians Trap Themselves and Drag the West Along,” PJ Media, (May 5, 2013).

                    On January 30, 1948, the Jaffa newspaper, Ash Sha’ab, reported: “The first of our fifth column consists of those who abandon their houses and businesses and go to live elsewhere….At the first signs of trouble they take to their heels to escape sharing the burden of struggle.”

                    Another Jaffa paper, As Sarih (March 30, 1948) excoriated Arab villagers near Tel Aviv for “bringing down disgrace on us all by ‘abandoning the villages.“

                    John Bagot Glubb, the commander of Jordan’s Arab Legion, said: “Villages were frequently abandoned even before they were threatened by the progress of war” (London Daily Mail, August 12, 1948).

                    Jewish forces seized Tiberias on April 19, 1948, and the entire Arab population of 6,000 was evacuated under British military supervision. The Jewish Community Council issued a statement afterward: “We did not dispossess them; they themselves chose this course….Let no citizen touch their property.”

                    In early April, an estimated 25,000 Arabs left the Haifa area following an offensive by the irregular forces led by Fawzi al­Qawukji, and rumors that Arab air forces would soon bomb the Jewish areas around Mt. Carmel. On April 23, the Haganah captured Haifa. A British police report from Haifa, dated April 26, explained that “every effort is being made by the Jews to persuade the Arab populace to stay and carry on with their normal lives, to get their shops and businesses open and to be assured that their lives and interests will be safe.” In fact, David Ben-Gurion had sent Golda Meir to Haifa to try to persuade the Arabs to stay, but she was unable to convince them because of their fear of being judged traitors to the Arab cause. By the end of the battle, more than 50,000 Palestinians had left.

                    Tens of thousands of Arab men, women and children fled toward the eastern outskirts of the city in cars, trucks, carts, and afoot in a desperate attempt to reach Arab territory until the Jews captured Rushmiya Bridge toward Samaria and Northern Palestine and cut them off. Thousands rushed every available craft, even rowboats, along the waterfront, to escape by sea toward Acre (New York Times, April 23, 1948).

                    In Tiberias and Haifa, the Haganah issued orders that none of the Arabs’ possessions should be touched, and warned that anyone who violated the orders would be severely punished. Despite these efforts, all but about 5,000 or 6,000 Arabs evacuated Haifa, many leaving with the assistance of British military transports.

                    Syria’s UN delegate, Faris el-Khouri, interrupted the UN debate on Palestine to describe the seizure of Haifa as a “massacre” and said this action was “further evidence that the ‘Zionist program’ is to annihilate Arabs within the Jewish state if partition is effected.”

                    The following day, however, the British representative at the UN, Sir Alexander Cadogan, told the delegates that the fighting in Haifa had been provoked by the continuous attacks by Arabs against Jews a few days before and that reports of massacres and deportations were erroneous. The same day (April 23, 1948), Jamal Husseini, the chairman of the Palestine Higher Committee, told the UN Security Council that instead of accepting the Haganah’s truce offer, the Arabs “preferred to abandon their homes, their belongings, and everything they possessed in the world and leave the town.”

                    • TecumsehUnfaced

                      Look! The pathetic ZioNazi thug lover, Wherry, is reduced to obvious lies from the ZioNazi propaganda manual.

                      Why wouldn’t anybody run from the massacres and terror of the merclless ZioNazi thugs?

                      • James Wherry

                        You simply want to massacre Jews – again – and call it “legal” for the Palestinians to do so.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Stupid accusation that proves again that you are berzerk, like all ZioNazi country stealers.

                    • tapatio

                      JAMES WHERRY is a “hasbara” troll for the outlaw Jewish state and a child molester who is too cowardly to face the possibility of prison (and the monsters that would use him there) and so chooses the youngest possible “legal” boy from a culture where the boy is so desperate to escape the poverty that he will accept ANY humiliation.

                      THIS is the sort of filth that makes up Zionism and its ranks of Gentile sycophants.

                      Even though Wherry was an officer in the US military, his first loyalty is obviously to Zionism. Zionists follow the Jewish “Chosen” Master-Race delusion promoted in Judaism’s Talmud.

                      Wherry resides, with his boy paramour, Mario, at 6300 MILGEN RD APT 1403 COLUMBUS, GA 31907, (15 minutes from the gate of School of the Americas – the world’s largest death squad and terrorist training facility) should anyone wish to drop by to say, “HI”.

                      http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article29462263.html

                      HILARIOUS………..
                      “I’m very happy about it,” James Wherry said. “Marriage is the bedrock of our society. I hope that same-sex couples can rejuvenate and revitalize marriage and give it the respect it is due.”

                      I don’t really think that Wherry is qualified to “REVITALIZE MARRIAGE AND GIVE IT THE RESPECT IT DESERVES” with his perverted man-boy love predatory relationship

                      James Wherry said he and Mario Jay Wherry met through gaymatchmaker.com. James Wherry proposed and flew to the Philippines to hold an engagement party with Mario Jay Wherry and his family. Mario Jay Wherry arrived in the United States at the end of May.

                      Wherry and his little paramour at their “wedding”. Being gay is one thing. Sexual use of someone young enough to be his child, and who would do ANYTHING to escape the disgusting poverty and violence of a culture like that in the Philippines, makes Wherry a s-xual predator.

                      • James Wherry

                        “Tapatio” is a NAZ!. Everyone on this website knows “Li’l Hitler.”

                      • James Wherry

                        Tapaio IS a gay hater – at least if they get all “uppity” and speak up or act up.

                        • tapatio

                          Wherry isn’t “gay” – he’s a man-boy-love freak that tries to pass his perversion off as “gay”, when it’s nothing but pedophelia.

                        • James Wherry

                          Thanks for reminding me of your other issue: YOUR UNNATURAL OBSESSION WITH ME AND MY HUSBAND.

                          You’re a dirty old man who turns 70, next month. If you want to give up your blow-up doll, shouldn’t you just find a friend? Maybe on “NAZ! friend dot com??? Other Skinheads like yourself are waiting for you.

                        • tapatio
                      • James Wherry

                        Tapatio frequents and uses materials from white supremacist websites.

                        • tapatio

                          INTERESTING THAT THIS PEDO-PIG HAS SOOOO MANY ACCUSATIONS AND NO EVIDENCE, OTHER THAN HIS FAKE SCREEN-SHOTS.

                        • James Wherry

                          DANCE, PIG!! DANCE!!

                          I made you dance by making you LIE! Each of these screenshots are YOUR FILTHY, NAZ! Posts. Now you squirm to deny them!!! From this, we conclude the following:

                          1. You know your obscene remakes are acceptable outside your bro-NAZ! Friends; and

                          2. You will never again have this platifrm to use to promote your JEW HATRED.

                          Crawl back down your hole. The Greman Socialists Workers, Party and ODESSA are dead.

                        • tapatio

                          Go sober up, Wherry. This is one of your more asinine posts.

                    • tapatio

                      WHERRY, USING JEWISH PROPAGANDA FRONTS TO “SUPPORT” JEWISH LIES IS AMAZINGLY STUPID.

                      • James Wherry

                        HOW STUPID OF TAPATIO: HE KEEPS CITING THE JVL FOR HIS LIE THAT HIS FAKE TALMUD QUOTES EXIST.

                        And of course, he never deals with the facts cited. Unless he can refute them, they stand as facts and are all the more reason why we should listen to the JVL.

                        • tapatio

                          The ONLY thing I have ever cited on JVL is its copy of the Talmud and ONLY because it is handy. When a Jew propaganda site shows something, even by accident, that is contrary to the ZioNazi agenda, that’s worth noting.

                          IT’S FUNNY THAT THE TALMUDIC STATEMENTS I QUOTED ARE IN COMPLETE ACCORD WITH THE STATEMENTS OF MODERN JEW LEADERS AND THE BEHAVIOR OF ZIONISTS, ISRAEL AND THEIR SUPPORTERS.

                        • James Wherry

                          Why do you think that JVL has a copy of the Talmud that contains your FAKE TALMUDIC QUOTES? You’re so stupid you fail to admit that YOU’VE NEVER FOUND THOSE LIES.

                          So how is it that the 1-2 million Jews who you say are “decent” would still be “decent,” if their leaders reflected these fake views? Stupid of you.

                          How can Jill Stein lead, if she was knowingly part of what you call a “FILTHY CULT?”

                          There are ten’s of thousands of Jewish leaders, yet you can only find a few quotes and the rest you fake up.

                        • tapatio

                          Since the Jewish Virtual Library DOES contain the Talmudic statements I’ve quoted, as you say, MY QUOTES ARE ACCURATE, fudge-packee boy.

                          There are well over 1 – 2 million Jews who reject the Talmud. The number is two to four million.

                        • James Wherry

                          Swing from your tree you ignorant chimpanzee.

                          You’ve been confronted by your lies 100 times and never once have you produced a dumpsite or a web link to your lying filthy fake Talmudic quotes in the Jewish Virtual Library. JUST LIKE THIS TIME.

                          you ignorant baboon, you have rejected the Torah and claimed that the Jewish profits were Hasbara propagandists. There is no Jew who rejects the Jewish profits, you idiot.

                        • tapatio

                          Thank you, tu.rd burglar. Mimicry of my tereminology is the highest form of praise.

                        • James Wherry

                          No one would want to mimic a piece of filthy human excrement like yourself.

                        • tapatio

                          Then why, miss poof-piggy, do you keep copying my usage?

                        • James Wherry

                          Are you telling me that I’ve done something that you dish out, “but you can’t take it?”

                          Unlike YOU, I’ve never vowed to “ERADICATE Islam.” I welcome both states, Israel AND Palestine. Unlike you, I don’t glorify the murder of children. Nope. I am nothing like you.

                        • tapatio

                          Wherry, you make no sense.

                          And you are certainly a LIAR. You support this DISEASE…………………

                          https://mohammedjehankhan.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/israel-12.jpg

                        • James Wherry

                          Add that to your collection of fake Talmud quotes and fake “founding fathers'” quotes.

                          HERE is the EXCREMENT YOU SUPPORT:

                          Insult after Injury: Egypt’s Muslim-Christian ‘Reconciliation Meetings’

                          by Raymond Ibrahim
                          Coptic Solidarity
                          August 11, 2016

                          http://www.meforum.org/6186/egypt-muslim-christian-reconciliation-meetings

                          We often hear about Egypt’s Christians being attacked by Muslim mobs. What we rarely hear about is what happens afterwards. Are the culprits imprisoned? Are the victims compensated? Do authorities take measures to help prevent such attacks from happening again?

                          While the acquainted reader may correctly assume no, the anatomy of what always takes place is of interest.

                          First, the attack itself is often based on the accusation that some Christian dared overstep his bounds, that is, he broke Islam’s supremacist dhimma contract.

                          Christians trying to build a church, romantically involved with Muslim girls, or insulting Muhammad—all banned according to Islam—are typical violations that prompt large, armed Muslim mobs to attack all the Christians in that village (and their church if one exists) as a form of collective punishment, which is also Islamic.

                          Security forces take their time getting to the scene of anti-Christian mob attacks.

                          While the attack is in progress, the besieged Christians do the only thing they can: frantically call the local police and/or state security.

                          Based on private conversations with those involved, formal complaints from the Coptic Orthodox Church of Egypt, and objective media reporting, here’s what happens practically every single time:

                          Police and state security take their time to get to the scene, allowing the mob ample time to riot with impunity. It is not uncommon for authorities to arrive two or three hours after a mob attack commences—even when they are closely stationed.

                          For example, after 3,000 Muslims rose in violence against the Christians of a village near Alexandria in 2012, it took the army an hour to arrive—even though it was stationed a mere mile away: “This happens every time,” said a Christian eyewitness. “They wait outside the village until the Muslims have had enough violence, then they appear” (Crucified Again, p. 175).

                          After the uprising has fizzled out, authorities arrive. Instead of looking for and arresting the culprits or mob ringleaders—or, as often is the case, the local imam who incites the Muslim mob against the “uppity infidels” who need to be reminded of “their place”—authorities gather the leaders of the Christian and Muslim communities together in what are termed “reconciliation meetings.” During these meetings, Christians are asked to make further concessions to angry Muslims.

                          Authorities tell Christian leaders things like, “Yes, we understand the situation and your innocence, but the only way to create calm in the village is for X [the offending Christian and extended family, all of whom may have been beaten] to leave the village—just for now, until things calm down.” Or, “Yes, we understand you need a church, but as you can see, the situation is volatile right now, so, for the time being, maybe you can walk to the church in the next town six miles away—you know, until things die down.”

                          Christian victims are regularly placed into a room with their persecutors for a ‘reconciliation meeting.’

                          Needless to say, things never “die down” or “return to normal.” Christians who agree to banishment are seldom allowed reentry and churches rarely resume being built, for the mob will rise up again.

                          To be sure, when the authorities arrive to the scene of the crime, beaten and robbed Christians regularly reject the idea of being placed into a room with their persecutors in a mock reconciliation meeting that has proven time and again only to add insult to injury.

                          But when they rebuff the authorities’ offer and demand their rights as citizens against the culprits, the authorities smile and say “okay.” Then they go through the village making arrests—except that most of those whom they arrest are Christian youths. Then they tell the Christian leaders, “Well, we’ve made the arrests. But, just as you say so-and-so [Muslim] was involved, there are even more witnesses [Muslims] who insist your own [Christian] youths were the ones who began the violence. So, we can either arrest and prosecute them, or you can rethink our offer about having a reconciliation meeting.”

                          Under the circumstances, dejected Christians generally agree to the further mockery. What alternative do they have? They know if they don’t their youth will certainly go to prison and be tortured. In one recent incident, wounded Christians who dared fight against Muslim attackers were arrested and, despite serious injuries, held for seven hours and prevented from receiving medical attention.

                          This issue of reconciliation meetings is so prevalent and prevents Copts from receiving any justice that a 2009 book, titled (in translation) Traditional Reconciliation Sessions and Copts: Where the Culprit Emerges Triumphant and the Victim is Crushed, is entirely devoted to it. According to a review of the book,

                          In some 100 pages the book reviews how the security apparatus in Egypt chooses to ‘reconcile’ the culprits and the victims in crimes where churches are burned; Coptic property and homes plundered, and Copts themselves assaulted, beaten and sometimes murdered; and when even monks are not spared. Even though it stands to reason that such cases should be seen in courts of law where the culprits would be handed fair sentences, this is almost never allowed to take place. And even in the few cases which managed to find their way into the courts, the culprits were never handed fair sentences since the police invariably fell short of providing any incriminating evidence against them.

                          The farcical scenario of reconciliation sessions has thus without fail dominated the scene where attacks against Copts are concerned, even though these sessions proved to be nothing but a severe retreat of civil rights.

                          Politically speaking, the authorities aim—through the reconciliation sessions—to secure a rosy façade of the ‘time-honoured[‘] amicable relationships between Muslims and Copts’, implying that they live happily ever after. The heartbreaking outcome, however, is that the only winners in these sessions are the trouble mongers and fanatics who induce the attacks in the first place and who more often than not escape punishment and emerge victorious. The Coptic victims are left to lick their wounds.

                          Worse, not only are the victims denied any justice, but the aggressors are further emboldened to attack again. As Coptic Bishop Makarious of Minya recently put it in the context of discussing how Coptic Christians are now being attacked at the rate of every two or three days:

                          As long as the attackers are never punished, and the armed forces are portrayed as doing their duty, this will just encourage others to continue the attacks, since, even if they are arrested, they will be quickly released.

                          Raymond Ibrahim is a Judith Friedman Rosen fellow at the Middle East Forum and a Shillman fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

                        • tapatio

                          JAMES WHERRY, HASBARA TROLL, HAS THE DELUSION THAT HIS JEWISH PROPAGANDA FRONTS STILL HAVE CREDIBILITY. MANY HUNDREDS OF SHILLS FOR THE OUTLAW JUDEO-NAZ! STATE AND THE DISEASE OF ZIONISM HAVE NO OTHER “SUPPORT” FOR THEIR LIES, OTHER THAN THESE ZIONIST FRONTS.

                          From Sourcewatch (other evaluations are almost identical):
                          “The Middle East Forum is a right-wing think tank founded in 1990 by Daniel Pipes. According to its website, the MEF seeks to: “define and promote American interests in the Middle East, fight Islam, work for Palestinian acceptance of Israel, reduce energy dependence on the Middle East and counter the Iranian threat.” In addition it seeks to “…help shape the intellectual climate in which U.S. foreign policy is made.” [1]

                          Its committee and boards include such right-wing ZIONISTS as David Steinmann and Dalck Feith (father of Douglas Feith). MEF is closely linked to the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.”

                  • James Wherry

                    That’s not what Arab and Palestinian leaders said.

                • tapatio

                  The Arab Christian and Muslim refugees left Palestine ONLY after the EUROPEAN Jews had slaughtered tens of thousands and forced hundreds of thousands of INDIGENOUS Palestinians from their land.

                  • James Wherry

                    NO ONE CLAIMS THAT “TEN’S OF THOUSANDS DIED ON EITHER SIDE.

                    • tapatio

                      British Army reports and accounts by British troops stationed in Palestine, in the 1930s & ’40s, discuss many entire towns and villages that were wiped out down to infants by Jew terrorists. Three British accounts I’ve read mention multiples of ten thousand murdered by Jews.

                      • James Wherry

                        You can cite them and no one will believe your lies. You’ve been undermined way too much by your own words. You are also counting the massacres of JEWS by PALESTINIIANS. Here’s 1936, alone:

                        Onslaught of Arab Terror, 1936:

                        April 15, 1936: 3 Jews in Tulkarm killed by Arabs.

                        April 19: 9 Jews in Jaffa killed by Arabs.

                        April 20: 5 Jews in Jaffa killed by Arabs.

                        April 22: Jewish woman in Jaffa killed by Arabs.

                        April 26: Jewish houses in Nazareth and Beit Shean burned by Arabs.

                        April 26: An Arab mob beats up Jewish boy in Jerusalem.

                        April 28: 4 Jewish farm workers in Migdal injured by Arabs.

                        April 29: Arabs burn down a Jewish forest in Balfouriya.

                        April 29: Arab mob forms in Jerusalem, but British police break it up before Jews harmed.

                        May 1: 2 Jews in Haifa killed by Arabs.

                        May 3: Arab mob burns down Jewish timber yard in Haifa.

                        May 4: Jewish orchards in Mishmar Ha-Emek burned by Arabs.

                        May 4: Arabs destroy 200 acres of wheat in Ramat David.

                        May 5: 500 orange trees uprooted in Tel Mond by Arabs.

                        May 7: Arabs fire on Jewish bus in Beit Dagan.

                        May 10: Arabs burn crops and haystacks in Givat Ada.

                        May 10: Arabs uproot newly planted olive grove in Zikhron Yaakov.

                        May 11: Arabs burn Jewish crops in Ramat David.

                        May 12: Arabs burn threshing floor in Zikhron Yaakov.

                        May 13: 2 elderly Jews murdered by Arabs in Old City.

                        May 13: Jewish shops in Haifa stoned by Arabs.

                        May 13: More orchards burned in Mishmar Ha-Emek.

                        May 16: 3 Jews in Jerusalem exiting a cinema are shot dead by Arabs.

                        May 19: Arabs kill a Jew in the Old City of Jerusalem.

                        May 20: 2 Jews wounded during Arab attack on bus.

                        May 24: Arabs severely wound a Jewish guard at Majd el Krum.

                        May 25: Arabs kill a Jew at Hebrew University.

                        From May 30 – June 13, 1936, in more than 11 attacks, the Arabs destroy over 30,000 trees planted by Jews, as well as many fruit orchards,crops and barns. Telephone wires are cut throughout the district, roads are barricaded, and bridges and culverts are mined. Volunteers from Syria and Iraq aid the Arabs in their attacks.

                        May 31: Jew at Givat Shaul killed by Arabs.

                        June 1: Jewish bus passenger killed by Arab rifle fire.

                        June 5: 5 Jewish passengers injured when Arabs threw bomb at bus in Haifa.

                        June 6: Jewish girl severely injured by Arab fire while traveling on bus.

                        June 8: Arabs attack Jews on their way to the Dead Sea Potash works.

                        In the third month of terror (June 16 – July 17) campaign, 9 Jews were killed, mostly in Arab ambushes on buses, and 75,000 trees planted by Jews were destroyed.

                        The Arab campaign of murder, intimidation, and sabotage continued through 1939, and on occasion, sparked isolated Jewish reprisals. According to the Report of the British government for 1937:

                        The [Arab] terrorist campaign took the form of isolated murder and attempted murder; of sporadic cases of armed attacks on military, police and civilian road transport; on Jewish settlements and on both Arab and Jewish private property…” In 1938, public security in Palestine “continued to cause the administration grave preoccupation. [Report by the British Government to the Council of the League of Nations on the Administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan for the year 1937]

                        According to the Report of the British government for 1938:

                        The main difference between the course of events in 1938 and that in 1937 lay in the gradual development during 1938 of Arab gang warfare on organized and to a certain extent co-ordinated lines. By the end of the year, as the result of the arrival in the autumn of large military reinforcements, this gang organization was first dislocated and finally reduced to comparative impotence in the field. But in the towns terrorism persisted and the roads were still largely unsafe for normal traffic. In fact, the events of 1938 succeeded in seriously affecting the economic and social life of the country to an extent far greater than was the case in 1937. [Report by the British Government to the Council of the League of Nations on the Administration of Palestine and Trans-Jordan for the year 1938]

                        • tapatio

                          THE ONGOING GENOCIDE IN PALESTINE
                          The following list of massacres is by no means complete, but they reflect the nature of the Zionist occupation of Palestine and Lebanon and show that massacres and expulsions were not aberrations that happen in any war, but organized atrocities with only one aim, that is to have a Zionist state which is ‘goyim rein’.
                          The King David Massacre
                          The Massacre at Baldat al-Shaikh
                          Yehida Massacre
                          Khisas Massacre
                          QAZAZA MASSACRE
                          The Semiramis Hotel Massacre
                          The Massacre at Dair Yasin
                          NASER AL-DIN MASSACRE
                          THE TANTURA MASSACRE
                          BEIT DARAS MASSACRE
                          THE DAHMASH MOSQUE MASSACRE
                          DAWAYMA MASSACRE
                          HOULA MASSACRE
                          SHARAFAT MASSACRE
                          Salha Massacre
                          The Massacre at Qibya
                          KAFR QASEM MASSACRE
                          Khan Yunis Massacre
                          The Massacre in Gaza City
                          Al-Sammou’ Massacre
                          Aitharoun Massacre
                          Kawnin Massacre
                          Hanin Massacre
                          Bint Jbeil Massacre
                          Abbasieh Massacre
                          Adloun Massacre
                          Saida Massacre
                          Fakhani Massacre
                          Beirut Massacre
                          Sabra And Shatila Massacre
                          Jibsheet Massacre
                          Sohmor Massacre
                          Seer Al Garbiah
                          Maaraka Massacres
                          Zrariah Massacre
                          Homeen Al-Tahta Massacre
                          Jibaa Massacre
                          Yohmor Massacre
                          Tiri massacre
                          Al-Naher Al-Bared Massacre
                          Ain Al-Hilweh Massacre
                          Oyoun Qara Massacre
                          Siddiqine Massacre
                          A-Aqsa Mosqie Massacre
                          The Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre
                          The Jabalia Massacre
                          Aramta Massacre
                          Eretz Checkpoint Massacre
                          Deir Al-Zahrani Massacre
                          Nabatiyeh (school bus) Massacre
                          Mnsuriah Massacre
                          The Sohmor Second Massacre
                          Nabatyaih Massacre
                          Qana Massacre
                          Trqumia Massacr
                          Janta Massacre
                          24 Of June 1999 Massacres
                          Western Bekaa villages Massacre:
                          The Gaza Cast Lead Massacre (2008-2009)
                          The Mavi Marmara Massacre May 31, 2010
                          The Nakba Day Massacre May 15, 2011
                          The ongoing Silent or Silenced Massacre
                          The June 5 2011 Naksa Day Massacre
                          November 2012 Gaza Massacre
                          Summer 2014 Gaza Massacre 2400+ dead

                        • James Wherry

                          TAPATIO’S list is a fabrication.

                          1. There is no “genocide.” There are 1.9 million Palesrinian Arabs living in pre-1967 Israel and 4 million living in the West Bank and Gaza. 75% of Jordan claims to be “Palestinian Arab.” When TAPATIO’S NAZ! Cult sent Jews to the Holucaust, 5’7 million died. The only “genocide” that TAPATIO wants to complete is a second Holocaust of the Jews.

                          2. TAPATIO’S list does not include the far more numerous massacres of Jews by Palestinians. He has argued that MRI, JihadWatch, PalWstch and Gatestomr are unreliable because they fail to be balanced. Ergo, TAPA-FILTH is unreliable.

                          3. TAPATIO’S numbers are non-sense. The death toll for 2014 stands at 1,799, not 2,400. It is also a self-inflicted wound: the Palestinians fired 4,000+ rockets and missiles into Israel. Of course Israel will defend itself: most of the Palestinians killed were rocket launchers- or they died from Hamas’ stray missiles.

                        • tapatio

                          EVERY JEW MASSACRE OF PALESTINIANS, THAT I’VE LISTED, CAN BE VERIFIED ONLINE BY ANY READER.

                          THE UNITED NATIONS AND NGOs STATED THAT IN THE 2014 JEW ATTACK ON GAZA, THE JEWS KILLED 2400+ PALESTINIANS, 1800 OF WHOM WERE CIVILIANS, WITH 500+ OF THOSE BEING CHILDREN. (There were 30ish Jews killed).

                          The Jews’ CLAIM of about 6 million dead in the “holocaust” is a claim, nothing more. All of the available data supports a number of under 3 million (still pretty terrible). The Holocaust Industry claims 6ish million because that “fulfills” a prophecy of one of their ancient pundits.

              • James Wherry

                Don’t deny your NAZ! Affiliation: you give “thumb’s up to TAPATIO’S Jew Hating rants.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Benny Morris:– Look at history, these two peoples are going to live quietly together? Who are we kidding? They are going to kill each other and the Arabs will probably end up winning and the Jews will leave… if there ever is a binational state.” (Jewish Chronicle interview of Benny Morris by By Simon Rocker June 23 2011)
        _________________________________
        Benny Morris:– I think I’m basically depressed. I think unless there is a basic change of heart and mind—a change of mindset—among Palestinians and in the Arab world in general about Israel, we’re in for a continuous struggle over the coming decades. Basically what is needed here is a compromise based on two states, and that in effect requires Arab acceptance of Israel’s legitimacy. But so long as there is this view of Israel as a cancer in the Middle East—which like a Crusader’s stake must be uprooted and will be uprooted—there will be no compromise here. It doesn’t matter what agreement is signed or what temporary ceasefires occur. In the long term of history, it’s meaningless. So long as Israel’s legitimacy is questioned, its existence is not assured. (Atlantic Unbound | March 25, 2004)
        _________________________________
        Benny Morris:– There is not going to be peace in the present generation. There will not be a solution. We are doomed to live by the sword. I’m already fairly old, but for my children that is especially bleak. I don’t know if they will want to go on living in a place where there is no hope. Even if Israel is not destroyed, we won’t see a good, normal life here in the decades ahead.

        • James Wherry

          So show us 2,100 year old coins bearing the names of PALESTINIAN LEADERS!

          Jerusalem – 2,100 Year Old Coins, Bearing Names Of Maccabean Kings, Found In Israel

          http://www.vosizneias.com/240730/2016/06/07/jerusalem-2100-year-old-coins-bearing-names-of-maccabean-kings-found-in-israel/

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            Silly boy, coins from a small kingdom in Palestine that lasted only a few hundred years count nothing next to the long millennia of Palestinian civilization under many rulers and many religions.

            • James Wherry

              Israel existed from 1,200 BC to about 0 BC, and now exists, again. Compare THAT to NO Palestinian nation, ever.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Nope, you are lying. There is only evidence for small Jewish kingdoms from 400 B.C. in parts of Palestine.

                Palestinians have been in Palestine continuously for over ten thousand years under many names, rulers, and religions, far longer than anything called Jewish even existed, including the last two thousand years, when the invader European Zionist Ashkenazi certainly weren’t, if ever.

                • James Wherry

                  Funny, the Koran says that Israel existed at the same time. Are you calling Muhammad a piece of filthy trash? ” A Hasbaret troll?” As usual, you cite no EVIDENCE.

                  But again, you are lying. http://vridar.info/bibarch/arch/davies5.htm

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    Mythology is mythology, and only upon that does the demented James Wherry travel.

                    • James Wherry

                      Then why did your filthy Arabs drive the Jews from the JEWS” countries they lived in before the coming of the Arabs? Wouldn’t it have been smarter to keep the Jews THERE?
                      * * *
                      Continuing on from above:

                      During the months of March and April, over a dozen Jewish agricultural settlements in the Galilee were attacked by armed Palestinian Arabs. These included Kfar Tavor, Degania, Rosh Pina, Ayelet Hashahar, Mishmar Hayarden, Kfar Giladi and Metulla. (Four of these — Hamara, Kfar Giladi, Metulla and Bnei Yehuda were evacuated after being repeatedly attacked, and the latter was completely abandoned.)

                      Around the same time, during the Passover and Easter holidays, a group of Palestinian Arab “Nebi Musa” pilgrims (making their annual pilgrimage from Jerusalem to the site they believed was Moses’ tomb), were incited by Haj Amin al Husseini’s anti-Jewish rhetoric to ransack the Jewish Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem and launch violent anti-Jewish riots. The violence, which took place between April 4 and April 7, claimed the lives of nine people — five Jews and four Arabs — and left 244 wounded, the vast majority Jews. The British military administration, sympathetic to the Arabs, did not allow the Jews to arm themselves. Jewish victims of Nebi Musa riotsZe’ev Jabotinsky

                      Ze’ev (Vladimir ) Jabotinsky, a Russian journalist and Zionist activist, organized the defense of the Old City Jews with demobilized soldiers from the Jewish Legion who had participated in the British military campaign against the Ottomans. (Jabotinsky and Trumpeldor had organized and helped lead the Jewish volunteer military units that had fought with the British.) When the British authorities finally quelled the riots, Jabotinsky and 19 associates were arrested for possession of illegal weapons. Jabotinsky was stripped of his commission in Palestine, and was sentenced to 15 years of penal servitude. The Arab aggressors, by contrast, received much lighter sentences. Worldwide protests, however, forced the British to shorten and eventually revoke the sentences of Jabotinsky and his associates (as well as the incarcerated Arabs).Haj Amin al Husseini

                      Meanwhile, Haj Amin al Husseini and other Arab leaders continued to incite against the Jews. On May 1, 1921, Arab rioters and policemen with knives, pistols and rifles took to the streets of Jaffa, beating and murdering Jews, and looting Jewish homes and stores. Twenty-seven Jews were killed and 150 were wounded. Attacks by Arab villagers spread to the Jewish communities of Petach Tikvah, Rehovot, Hadera, and as far north as Haifa. According to an Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine to the League of Nation, dated June 1921:

                      Troops were employed and suppressed the disturbances, and the attacks on the [Jewish] colonies were dispersed with considerable loss to the [Arab] attackers. Martial law was proclaimed over the area affected, but much excitement prevailed for several days in Jaffa and the neighbouring districts, and for some weeks there was considerable unrest. 88 persons were killed and 238 injured, most of them slightly, in these disturbances, and there was much looting and destruction of property. There were no casualties among the troops…

                      A commission of inquiry, led by Sir Thomas Haycraft, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in Palestine, was set up to investigate the causes and circumstances of the riots and concluded that the violence was due to Arab resentment of Jewish immigrants to Palestine. As a result, the British High Commissioner, Sir Herbert Samuel, ordered a temporary halt to Jewish immigration. Ships carrying Jews were not allowed to land in Palestine.

                      In November 1921, another Arab attack on the Jewish quarter of the Old City was repelled by the Haganah, Jewish defense volunteers.1928-1929: Jihad against Jews

                      Between 1918 and 1928, the Jewish population in Palestine doubled, to about 150,000. Palestinian Arabs were concerned about this and their leaders, with Haj Amin al Husseini at the forefront, fanned the flames of hatred and suspicion. Husseini, now the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, used the Western (Wailing) Wall — the last remnant of the Jewish Holy Temple compound — as a focal point for his anti-Zionist campaign.

                      In September 1928, a small group of Jews erected a “mechitza” (a divider to separate men and women during prayers) for Yom Kippur prayers at the Western Wall. The British forcibly dismantled the divider, but Husseini used this incident as a pretext to incite Muslims. He accused the Jews of attempting to seize Muslim holy sites, including the al Aqsa Mosque. Arab rioters on Temple Mount, 1929 (from: Pillar of Fire)

                      A virulent propaganda campaign calling for jihad against the Jews resulted in the frequent beating and stoning of Jews worshipping at the Wall and culminated in widespread, murderous riots across Palestine in August 1929.

                      August 15, 1929 was Tisha B’Av, the day on which Jews commemorate the destruction of the Holy Temple. Thousands of Jews marched to the Wall to protest British restrictions on Jewish prayer there, and to reaffirm their Jewish connection to the holy site. They displayed their nationalistic fervor by singing Hatikvah (later to become Israel’s national anthem). The following day, mobs of armed Arab worshippers inflamed by anti-Jewish sermons, fell upon Jewish worshippers at the Wall, destroying Jewish prayer books and notes placed between the stones of the wall. On August 17, a Jewish boy was killed by Arabs during ensuing riots in the Jerusalem neighborhood of Bukharan.

                      According to the Davar newspaper of August 20, 1929, incitement against the Jews was rampant, especially in the Jerusalem and Hebron area. Rumors were spread that Jews had cursed Islam and intended to take over their holy places; Muslims were told that it was their duty to take revenge. “Defend the Holy Places” became the battle cry.

                      On August 23, more than 1000 Arabs launched attacks on Jews throughout Jerusalem. Forty-seven people were killed. This was followed by widespread attacks on Jews throughout Palestine. Again, the British forbade Jews to organize armed self-defense units and within several days, 133 Jews had been killed and 339 wounded. Arab attackers sustained high numbers of casualties (116), almost all of whom were killed by British police trying to quell the violence. Jewish leaders reported that Arab attacks showed evidence of organized warfare; Arab assaults on Jewish communities extended from as far south as Hebron to Haifa, Safed, Mahanaim and Pekiin in the north. A state of emergency was declared and martial law was imposed by the British.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Already refuted.

                        http://disq.us/p/1asmdrn

                        • James Wherry

                          Nothing in your post “refutes” anything or covers up the massacres by the Palestinians of the Jews.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Sorry, CAMERA is a ZioNazi propaganda site. It ignores these crimes by the ZioNazi thugs…

                          Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

                          Over 600 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED

                          Ordered the attack on over 700,000 Arab Jews to drive them into conquered Palestine

                        • James Wherry

                          Oh, third time for you to use this lie in this thread. See my other responses to this lie, above and below. And here’s one more.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Yes, I’m already aware of how ignorant you pretend to be of the vast evidence of the ZioNazi execution of the nakba and the genocidal country stealing.

                        • James Wherry

                          Repeating your lie won’t make it true, Tecumseh.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          I don’t need lies. Anyone can use the Internet to check me out, and also to findout how utterly crazy you are.

      • Helen4Yemen

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS2MvCXTGy8

        The horrors of being controlled by foreign Europeans – it is pure terror!

        • James Wherry

          The horrors of being controlled by Palestinian Arabs. Jewish father and son murdered by Palestinians.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            So why did your evil European ZioNazi thugs invade them with genocidal country stealing?

            • James Wherry

              And why did the Palestinians rape and murder refugees?

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                No, you ZioNazi thugs did that, Benny Morris reveals.

                “The revised book is a double-edged sword. It is based on many documents that were not available to me when I wrote the original book, most of them from the Israel Defense Forces Archives. What the new material shows is that there were far more Israeli acts of massacre than I had previously thought. To my surprise, there were also many cases of rape. In the months of April-May 1948, units of the Haganah [the pre-state defense force that was the precursor of the IDF] were given operational orders that stated explicitly that they were to uproot the villagers, expel them and destroy the villages themselves.

                • James Wherry

                  Your little quips are lies taken out of context. Let’s take the Hebron Massacre that your Palestinians perpetrated.
                  http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1691
                  1929 Hebron Massacre A trail of blood running down the stairs of a Jewish home in Hebron

                  According to Dutch-Canadian journalist Pierre Van Passen who was in Palestine at the time, fabricated pictures of Muslim holy sites in ruins were handed out to Hebron Arabs as they were leaving their mosques on Friday, August 23, 1929. The captions on the pictures claimed that the Dome of the Rock was bombed by the Zionists. That evening, armed Arabs broke into the Yeshiva (Talmudic academy) and murdered the lone student they found. The following day, an enraged Arab mob wielding knives, axes, and iron bars destroyed the Yeshiva and slaughtered the rest of the students there. A delegation of Jewish residents on their way to the police station was lynched by an Arab mob. The mob then proceeded to massacre Hebron’s Jews — both Sephardi and Ashkenazi — who had lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors for years. With only one British officer supervising, the Arab police made no attempt to prevent the massacre.

                  The head of Hebron’s Ashkenazi community, Rabbi Ya’akov Slonim, had been on good terms with his Arab colleagues and offered his home as a refuge to Hebron’s Jews, believing that they would be spared. But the mob broke in and killed the Rabbi, members of his family and all those assembled there. Van Passen gave the following account, revealing an attempted cover-up by British officials:Photo of some of the members of the Slonim family, murdered in the massacre

                  What occurred in the upper chambers of Slonim’s house could be seen when we found the twelve-foot-high ceiling splashed with blood. The rooms looked like a slaughterhouse. When I visited the place in the company of Captain Marek Schwartz, a former Austrian artillery officer, Mr. Abraham Goldberg of New York, and Mr. Ernst Davies, correspondent of the old Berliner Tageblatt, the blood stood in a huge pool on the slightly sagging stone floor of the house. Clocks, crockery, tables and windows had been smashed to smithereens. Of the unlooted articles, not a single item had been left intact except a large black-and-white photograph of Dr. Theodore Herzl, the founder of political Zionism. Around the picture’s frame the murderers had draped the blood-drenched underwear of a woman.

                  We stood silently contemplating the scene of slaughter when the door was flung open by a British solder with fixed bayonet. In strolled Mr. Keith-Roach, governor of the Jaffa district, followed by a colonel of the Green Howards battalion of the King’s African Rifles. They took a hasty glance around that awful room, and Mr. Roach remarked to his companion, “Shall we have lunch now or drive to Jerusalem first?”

                  In Jerusalem the Government published a refutation of the rumors that the dead Jews of Hebron had been tortured before they had their throats slit. This made me rush back to that city accompanied by two medical men, Dr. Dantziger and Dr. Ticho. I intended to gather up the severed sexual organs and the cut-off women’s breasts we had seen lying scattered over the floor and in the beds. But when we came to Hebron a telephone call from Jerusalem had ordered our access barred to the Slonim house. [Van Passen, Pierre, Days of Our Years, Hillman-Curl, Inc., New York 1939]

                  In total, sixty-seven Jews were killed and 60 were wounded. The Jewish community in Hebron was destroyed. Those who survived the Hebron massacre became refugees

                  In 1931, the community attempted to rebuild, but during the riots of 1936, the British authorities evacuated Hebron’s Jewish residents and did not allow them to return to their homes. Hebron, one of the four cities holy to Jews, which, for many centuries, had a Jewish presence, remained Judenrein for over 30 years. It was only in 1968, after Hebron came under Israel’s control, that Jews resettled there.1929 Safed Massacre

                  Barely a week after the Hebron massacre, Safed, another one of the four Jewish holy cities, was subject to the same depredations. On August 29, 1929, Arabs from Safed and nearby villages assaulted and murdered their Jewish neighbors, burning and pillaging their homes. Witnesses called it a pogrom. Eighteen Jews were killed, 40 wounded, and 200 houses were burned and looted.

                  The following is an eyewitness account by David Hacohen, who immigrated in 1907 to Israel from Russia and later served in the Israeli Knesset from 1949-69:

                  I believe I was the first Jew to reach Safed from the outside after the massacre there. One Friday morning we heard that there had been a pogrom in Safed. We read the official announcement:

                  “On August 29, at 6:15, disturbances broke out in Safed. The army arrived on the scene at 8:35 and immediately restored order. There were some fatal casualties and many houses were burnt. The Jewish inhabitants were at once transferred to safety. Since then calm has prevailed in Safed” …

                  …We had enough experience not to trust the reassuring official announcement…

                  We set out on Saturday morning. When at noon we entered the town through the main road, I could not believe my eyes. . . I met some of the town’s Jewish elders, who fell on my neck weeping bitterly… Inside the houses I saw the mutilated and burned bodies of the victims of the massacre, and the burned body of a woman tied to the grille of a window. Going from house to house, I counted ten bodies that had not yet been collected. I saw the destruction and the signs of fire. Even in my grimmest thoughts I had not imagined that this was how I would find Safed where “calm prevailed.”

                  The local Jews gave me a detailed description of how the tragedy had started. The pogrom began on the afternoon of Thursday, August 29, and was carried out by Arabs from Safed and from the nearby villages, armed with weapons and tins of kerosene. Advancing on the street of the Sefardi Jews from Kfar Meron and Ein Zeitim, they looted and set fire to houses, urging each other on to continue with the killing. They slaughtered the schoolteacher, Aphriat, together with his wife and mother, and cut the lawyer, Toledano, to pieces with their knives. Bursting into the orphanages, they smashed the children’s heads and cut off their hands. I myself saw the victims. Yitshak Mammon, a native of Safed who lived with an Arab family, was murdered with indescribable brutality: he was stabbed again and again, until his body became a bloody sieve, and then he was trampled to death. Throughout the whole pogrom the police did not fire a single shot. The British police commander, Farradav, walked up and down the main street of the town, where everything was quiet, and did not go down to the scene of the massacre… Instead of protecting the Jewish population and its property, the police commander had evacuated four thousand Jews from their homes to the courtyard of Government House, leaving their homes to be looted and burned. While the looting and killing were still going on, the police were searching the Jews for arms… [Hacohen, David, Time to Tell: An Israeli Life 1898-1984, English translation from the original Hebrew, Cornwall Books, New York 1985]1936-39

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    More CAMERA!

                    CAMERA is a ZioNazi propaganda site. It ignores these crimes by the ZioNazi thugs…

                    Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

                    Over 600 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED

                    Ordered the attack on over 700,000 Arab Jews to drive them into conquered Palestine

                    • James Wherry

                      4th time in this thread for your lie. Still wont work.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        It’s on the Internet for anyone who knows how to do a search.

                        Hehe, the Internet is lethal for the ZioNazi con game.

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        “Jewish Palestine”? But the Yiddish speaking Ashkenazi never set foot on that land until Herzl got them salivating with his book,
                        “The Jewish State”.

                        • James Wherry

                          And we both know that’s not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebron

                          “At this time, the town was divided into four quarters: the Ancient Quarter (Harat al-Kadim) near the Cave of Machpelah; to its south, the Quarter of the Silk Merchant (Harat al-Kazaz), inhabited by Jews; the Mameluke-era Sheikh’s Quarter (Harat ash Sheikh) to the north-west;and further north, the Dense Quarter (Harat al-Harbah).[133][134] In 1855, the newly appointed Ottoman pasha (“governor”) of the sanjak (“district”) of Jerusalem, Kamil Pasha, attempted to subdue the rebellion in the Hebron region. Kamil and his army marched towards Hebron in July 1855, with representatives from the English, French and other Western consulates as witnesses. After crushing all opposition, Kamil appointed Salama Amr, the brother and strong rival of Abd al Rachman, as nazir of the Hebron region. After this relative quiet reigned in the town for the next 4 years.[135][136] Hungarian Jews of the Karlin Hasidic court settled in another part of the city in 1866.[137] According to Nadav Shragai Arab-Jewish relations were good, and Alter Rivlin, who spoke Arabic and Syrian-Aramaic, was appointed Jewish representative to the city council.[137]”

                        • Helen4Yemen

                          I beg you pardon that I did not hold onto my decision to dump you. even though I made many statements stating I had no interest in your comment. I made the mistake of commented back to your silly comments. You are a deluded Christian Zionist who are so deluded that you do not even know how Zionism damaged the lives of the Christian Palestinians. Trust me when I tell you that I am now blocking you and blocked you shall remain until they put you in the casket and haul you away. –The end–

                        • James Wherry

                          Fine. Then you won’t see my responses and try and pretend Palestinian innocence.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Thanks for coming in. I was not in the mood for letting this berzerker get away with anything.

                        • Helen4Yemen

                          I had begun to feel sorry for you to notice how he was just posting total nonsense, repeating the same message endlessly, how the Arabs expelled the Arabs Jews, but the Palestinians left on their own. How long can one take reality flipped on its head. I think the block feature is the cure for this robot.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Where is he from? Germany or Russia?

            • James Wherry

              Does = that = justify = their = murder?

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Who were the ZioNazi country stealers murdering at Deir Yassin and all those other villages they massacred?

                • James Wherry

                  Who were the Palestinians murdering Jews A DECADE BEFORE THIS during the ARAB UPRISING?

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    They were fighting back against the violent ZioNazi country stealers.

                    But of course the ZioNazis always whine when someone resists there assaults.

      • Helen4Yemen

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        http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/9c64a171bfde4520a591406d0b492c3d/a-palestinian-woman-attacks-israeli-soldiers-during-clashes-of-a-weekly-fr31ta.jpg
        http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/a8ff8d9e738948cf957b8e6af734677f/a-palestinian-woman-attacks-israeli-soldiers-during-clashes-in-a-weekly-fr31nr.jpg
        http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/cd21bb95fbd34b248be9c461a064b389/aug-31-2012-nablus-west-bank-palestinian-territory-palestinian-woman-ckxyey.jpg
        http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/cde511523590489b8e87ed1623813caa/epa03377087-a-palestinian-woman-attacks-israeli-soldiers-during-clashes-ckyfx0.jpg

      • Helen4Yemen
        • James Wherry

          Ms. Arab, stop stealing Jewish homes and Jewish lands from 900,000 Middle Eastern Jews and their descendants. Stop being a racist bigot against Jewish refugees. Remember: YOU supported the HOLOCAUST.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            The people of Palestine stole nothing from the evil invader ZioNazi thugs, but had their country stolen from by these savage European genocidal monsters.

            • James Wherry

              Repeating your lie won’t make it true Tecumseh.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                That’s why I only deal in truth.

                What do you think the Palestinians stole from the ZioNazi thugs?

                • James Wherry

                  100% of all Jewish homes in the West Bank and Gaza in 1948. They force-marched ALL JEWS out of the West Bank and Gaza while Israel permitted 150,000 Palestinian Arabs to remain in 1948.

                  Even in 1967, the Israelis permitted 49,000 Palestinian Arabs to return to the W.B., when tey could have just kicked them all out.

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    That was after the ZioNazi thugs had already driven more than 200,000 Palestinians from their home. The evil ZioNazi thugs had the indigenous people panicked.

                    That is is so sick about you ZioNazi thugs. You murderously assault people than whine loudly if they try to defend themselves.

                    • Helen4Yemen

                      The guy is just delusional or a liar or both.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Both I think. For his type that’s like being ambidextrous.

              • Helen4Yemen

                And what is the greatest lie of them all?
                Vividly European Ashkenazi Jews who claim ancestry to Palestine.
                Funny!

      • Helen4Yemen
      • Helen4Yemen
        • TecumsehUnfaced

          Really excellent job, Helen, documenting the truth of the European assault on Palestine!

          • Helen4Yemen

            Where are the holocaust memorials for the holocaust the Jews inflicted on the Arabs?

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              According to Ilan Pappe, they were buried by bulldozers and parks planted on top to keep people from returning, recognizing, and remembering.

              • Helen4Yemen

                I am sorry, I no longer like the man, because he keeps repeating that Zionism was justified but that it became something else. Lies. If anyone denies that Zionism from its inception was wrong, then that person was a liar. Also the oft repeated lies that there was no other spot on the planet that could have taken these people is a total lie and that is what Pappe peddles.

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  Okay.

          • James Wherry

            There is no such place as “Palestine.” The Philistines were an ethnic group that once lived in the area, 2,500 years ago, but no longer exist. “Syriana Palestina” was a province in Rome. Go to Damascus, if you want to find “Syriana.”

            • TecumsehUnfaced

              Again the demented clown, James Wherry, takes the stupidity award!

              • James Wherry

                This “news” story was about the Palestinians’ lack of training facilities. They did this to themselves. But since you mention it. . .

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  Yes, they should have killed every genocidal ZioNazi country stealer as soon as these savage predators arrived in Palestine.

                  • James Wherry

                    Okay: you admitted it. You wanted Genocide on Refugees. Thank God for an “Israel.”

                    • TecumsehUnfaced

                      No, i admitted nothing. The only way to defend yourselves against merciless genocidal country stealers like the ZioNazi invaders is to kill them. But the Palestinians didn’t know until too late how utterly evil were the ZioNazi thugs!

                      • James Wherry

                        Refugees are not “country stealers.” Your just a bigot who is planning to vote for Trump. Your Arabs STOLE The LAND AND HOMES of 900,000 Jews from 23 nations the JEWS lived in, 1000 years before the coming of the criminal Arab invaders.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Again, you are lying. the ZioNazi country stealers can to seize the country and drive the indigenes out. That is the aim of political Zionism. Because you don’t understand these claims, you just keep making sily claim after silly claim.

                        • James Wherry

                          Tecumseh spends his silly little quips on “the art of misdirection.”

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          What misdirection? I just won’t let you lie about the evil of the ZioNazi country stealers.

                        • James Wherry

                          I’ve never lied, so you’re pretty lazy, what with all of your lies.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          There’s one more lie from you.

            • Helen4Yemen

              Exodus 15:14 The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.

              Isaiah 14:29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent’s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.

              Isaiah 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.

              Joel 3:4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestina? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;

              Genesis 21:32 When the treaty was completed, Abimelech and his army commander Phicol went back to the land of the Philistines.
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              Genesis 21:34 Then Abraham lived a long time as a foreigner in the land of the Philistines.

              Judges 3:3 the Philistiness and their five rulers, as well as the Canaanites, the Sidonians, and the Hivites that lived in the Lebanon Mountains from Mount Baal-Hermon to Hamath Pass.

              Judges 3:31 [ Shamgar ] Shamgar the son of Anath was the next to rescue Israel. In one battle, he used a sharp wooden pole to kill six hundred Philistines.

              Judges 13:1 [ Samson Is Born ] Once again the Israelites started disobeying the Lord. So he let the Philistines take control of Israel for forty years.

              Judges 14:2 When he got back home, he told his parents, “I saw a Philistine woman in Timnah, and I want to marry her. Get her for me!”

              • James Wherry

                Sounds like the judgment of God on the PHILISTINES, but the Philistines if 2,500 years ago are not you Palestinian ARABS, today.

      • Helen4Yemen
      • Helen4Yemen

        JUNE 23, 2016
        Israel’s Fear of the Arab Jews in Its Midst
        by JONATHAN COOK

        http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/23/israels-fear-of-the-arab-jews-in-its-midst/

      • Helen4Yemen

        May 19, 2015
        Why Israel Should Not Exist
        by GARRY LEECH

        http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/05/19/why-israel-should-not-exist/

      • Helen4Yemen

        Israel simply has no right to exist
        Faisal Bodi
        Tuesday 2 January 2001 20.04 EST

        Several years ago, I suggested in my students’ union newspaper that Israel shouldn’t exist. I also said the sympathy evoked by the Holocaust was a very handy cover for Israeli atrocities. Overnight I became public enemy number one. I was a Muslim fundamentalist, a Jew-hater, somebody who trivialised the memory of the most abominable act in history. My denouncers followed me, photographed me, and even put telephone calls through to my family telling them to expect a call from the grim reaper.
        Thankfully, my notoriety in Jewish circles has since waned to the extent that recently I gave an inter-faith lecture sponsored by the Leo Baeck College, even though my views have remained the same. Israel has no right to exist. I know it’s a hugely unfashionable thing to say and one which, given the current parlous state of the peace process, some will also find irresponsible. But it’s a fact that I have always considered central to any genuine peace formula.

        Certainly there is no moral case for the existence of Israel. Israel stands as the realisation of a biblical statement. Its raison d’être was famously delineated by former prime minister Golda Meir. “This country exists as the accomplishment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be absurd to call its legitimacy into account.”

        That biblical promise is Israel’s only claim to legitimacy. But whatever God meant when he promised Abraham that “unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the Euphrates,” it is doubtful that he intended it to be used as an excuse to take by force and chicanery a land lawfully inhabited and owned by others.

        It does no good to anyone to brush this fact, uncomfortable as it might be, under the table. But that has been the failing with Oslo. When it signed the agreement, the PLO made the cardinal error of assuming that you could bury the hatchet by rewriting history. It accepted as a starting point that Israel had a right to exist. The trouble with this was that it also meant, by extension, an acceptance that the way Israel came into being was legitimate. As the latest troubles have shown, ordinary Palestinians are not prepared to follow their leaders in this feat of intellectual amnesia.

        Israel’s other potential claim to legitimacy, international recognition, is just as dubious. The two pacts which sealed Palestine’s future were both concluded by Britain. First we signed the Sykes-Picot agreement with France, pledging to divvy up Ottoman spoils in the Levant. A year later, in 1917, the Balfour Declaration promised a national home for the Jewish people. Under international law the declaration was null and void since Palestine did not belong to Britain – under the pact of the League of Nations it belonged to Turkey.

        By the time the UN accepted a resolution on the partition of Palestine in 1947, Jews constituted 32% of the population and owned 5.6% of the land. By 1949, largely as a result of paramilitary organisations such as the Haganah, Irgun and Stern gang, Israel controlled 80% of Palestine and 770,000 non-Jews had been expelled from their country.

        This then is the potted history of the iniquities surrounding its own birth that Israel must acknowledge in order for peace to have a chance. After years of war, peace comes from forgiving, not forgetting; people never forget but they have an extraordinary capacity to forgive. Just look at South Africa, which showed the world that a cathartic truth must precede reconciliation.

        Far from being a force for liberation and safety after decades of suffering, the idea that Israel is some kind of religious birthright has only imprisoned Jews in a never-ending cycle of conflict. The “promise” breeds an arrogance which institutionalises the inferiority of other peoples and generates atrocities against them with alarming regularity. It allows soldiers to defy their consciences and blast unarmed schoolchildren. It gives rise to legislation seeking to prevent the acquisition of territory by non-Jews.

        More crucially, the promise limits Israel’s capacity to seek models of coexistence based on equality and the respect of human rights. A state based on so exclusivist a claim to legitimacy cannot but conceive of separation as a solution. But separation is not the same as lasting peace; it only pulls apart warring parties. It does not heal old wounds, let alone redress historical wrongs.

        However, take away the biblical right and suddenly mutual coexistence, even a one-state solution, doesn’t seem that far-fetched. What name that coexistence will take is less important than the fact that peoples have forgiven and that some measure of justice has been restored. Jews will continue to live in the Holy Land – as per the promise – as equals alongside its other rightful inhabitants.

        If that kind of self-reproach is forthcoming, Israel can expect the Palestinians to be forgiving and magnanimous in return. The alternative is perpetual war.

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/03/comment.israelandthepalestinians

      • Helen4Yemen

        We need to talk about Israel’s ‘right to exist’

        Ben White
        Monday 6 April 2015 20:51 UTC

        The cancellation of a conference by the University of Southampton highlights questions that Israel’s apologists are desperate to keep off limits
        There was outrage last week when the University of Southampton cancelled a forthcoming conference on Israel and international law, ostensibly on the grounds of “health and safety”.

        The university had been under pressure from pro-Israel advocacy groups, and organisers have begun legal efforts against what they see as a concession to outside interference and bullying. The story of the campaign to shut down the conference should not, however, distract from why Israel’s supporters found the topics scheduled for discussion so objectionable.

        One theme dominated criticism of the conference, summed up by this headline in the Daily Express: “Outrage as BRITISH university questions Israel’s right to exist.” This is therefore a useful opportunity to examine what has become a cliché in discussion about the Middle East by politicians and pundits.

        So, does Israel have a “right to exist”? The answer, or at least an important part of the answer, is that no states have a “right to exist”, without exceptions. States come and go, are formed, and broken up. South Sudan was created in 2011. The USSR ceased to exist in 1991. Czechoslovakia became Slovakia and the Czech Republic in 1993.

        There is popular discussion and scholarly work about the legitimacy of numerous states. This debate is generated by factors such as the legacy of decolonisation, or the dozens of active independence and separatist movements across the world.

        But what about whether Israel has a “right to exist” as a “Jewish state” specifically? The UN Partition Plan and General Assembly Resolution 181 of 1947 did indeed call for the establishment of an “Arab state” and a “Jewish state” within the boundaries of British Mandate Palestine.

        However, it did so based on population distribution at the time – it did not define a “Jewish” (or Arab) state so as to encompass Jews not already living there. It avoided, in other words, “invoking an abstract right to self-determination of Jews as an extra-territorial group”.

        The Partition Plan also contained guarantees of “equal and non-discriminatory rights” for all citizens, Jews and Arabs, living in both states. In the words of the text, Jews and Arabs would “become citizens of the State in which they are resident and enjoy full civil and political rights”.

        But there’s another issue here. The Zionist Federation-run petition against the conference claims that “Israel is the expression of the inalienable right to self-determination of the Jewish people.” A writer in the Telegraph declared that “[the Jewish] struggle for self-determination was no different to Martin Luther King Jnr’s against segregation or to Nkruhmah’s against imperialism.”

        Crucially, however, self-determination does not equate to statehood – and it certainly does not equate to exclusive, ethnocratic statehood. Indeed, the Telegraph piece (unintentionally) acknowledges as much with its reference to the US civil rights movement.

        The total number of ethnic groups worldwide are estimated at anything between 600 and several thousand. One study identified 820 ethnic groups in 160 countries. Uganda alone is home to some 40 different ethnic groups. Do they all have the “right” to self-determination through their own state?

        It is this conflation of “Jewish self-determination” with a “Jewish state” and “Zionism” that points us to what the pro-Israel groups are most desperate to hide, a parallel process of denial and erasure that lies behind the invocation of Israel’s “right to exist” (and threats directed at those with questions).

        Firstly, it was the Nakba, the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, that enabled a majority-Jewish state to emerge on the ruins of emptied homes and villages. Dynamite and bulldozers, not UN Resolution 181, are the true foundations of the “Jewish state”.

        Secondly, the reality of Israeli ethnocracy today is an institutionally racist legal system that excludes Palestinian refugees and marginalises Palestinian citizens. Meanwhile, the same logic that shaped the colonisation of the Galilee has, for half a century, been at work on the hilltops of the West Bank.

        The historic Nakba, contemporary ethnocracy, and the relationship between the two – these are the taboo topics which Israel’s die-hard defenders (including self-defined “liberals”) try to obscure – and which the Southampton conference was set to examine.

        As the organisers put it, their goal was to provide a forum for “historical scholarship and legal analysis of the manner by which the State of Israel came into existence as well as what kind of state it is.” Replace “the State of Israel” with say, Nigeria, or Indonesia, and you will see how unremarkable an academic exercise this would be in another context.

        The fact that the main groups which advocate for Israel in Britain were determined not simply to challenge the ideas of the conference but to stop it from taking place at all is an example of the brittle anxiety and bullying that emerges when Israel’s colonial present-past is laid bare, stripped of mythology, talking points and insinuations about anti-Semitism.

        There is no “right” to ethnic cleansing, no “right” to settler-colonial displacement, no “right” to discriminatory legislation, and no “right” to a majoritarian, ethnocratic state that continues to deny the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination.

        It is not a zero-sum game. As Orthodox Jewish studies and philosophy professor Charles H. Manekin put it, the dispute is “between those who hold that the collective right of a settler people to self-determination trumps the human and civil rights of the indigenous natives, and those who do not”.

        These recent attacks on freedom of speech, while troubling, indicate the insecurity of the former group at a time when there is a growing understanding of, and opposition to, what a “Jewish state” has meant, and continues to mean, for Palestinians.

        – Ben White is the author of ‘Israeli Apartheid: A Beginner’s Guide’ and ‘Palestinians in Israel: Segregation, Discrimination and Democracy’. He is a writer for Middle East Monitor, and his articles have been published by Al Jazeera, al-Araby, Huffington Post, The Electronic Intifada, The Guardian’s Comment is free, and more.

        The views expressed in this article belong to the author and do not necessarily reflect the editorial policy of Middle East Eye.

        http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/we-need-talk-about-israel-s-right-exist-1891640883

      • Helen4Yemen
        • James Wherry

          No such country has ever existed.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            James Wherry in always the pedophile to double down on his own dementia!

            • James Wherry

              No such country as “Palestine” has ever existed and he NAZ! Tecumseh is afraid of the truth.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Again, James Wherry wins the stupidity prize, the only thing he has ever won!

      • Helen4Yemen
      • Helen4Yemen

        Israel simply has no right to exist

        Tuesday 2 January 2001 20.04 EST

        Several years ago, I suggested in my students’ union newspaper that Israel shouldn’t exist. I also said the sympathy evoked by the Holocaust was a very handy cover for Israeli atrocities. Overnight I became public enemy number one. I was a Muslim fundamentalist, a Jew-hater, somebody who trivialised the memory of the most abominable act in history. My denouncers followed me, photographed me, and even put telephone calls through to my family telling them to expect a call from the grim reaper.
        Thankfully, my notoriety in Jewish circles has since waned to the extent that recently I gave an inter-faith lecture sponsored by the Leo Baeck College, even though my views have remained the same. Israel has no right to exist. I know it’s a hugely unfashionable thing to say and one which, given the current parlous state of the peace process, some will also find irresponsible. But it’s a fact that I have always considered central to any genuine peace formula.

        Certainly there is no moral case for the existence of Israel. Israel stands as the realisation of a biblical statement. Its raison d’être was famously delineated by former prime minister Golda Meir. “This country exists as the accomplishment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be absurd to call its legitimacy into account.”

        That biblical promise is Israel’s only claim to legitimacy. But whatever God meant when he promised Abraham that “unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the Euphrates,” it is doubtful that he intended it to be used as an excuse to take by force and chicanery a land lawfully inhabited and owned by others.

        It does no good to anyone to brush this fact, uncomfortable as it might be, under the table. But that has been the failing with Oslo. When it signed the agreement, the PLO made the cardinal error of assuming that you could bury the hatchet by rewriting history. It accepted as a starting point that Israel had a right to exist. The trouble with this was that it also meant, by extension, an acceptance that the way Israel came into being was legitimate. As the latest troubles have shown, ordinary Palestinians are not prepared to follow their leaders in this feat of intellectual amnesia.

        Israel’s other potential claim to legitimacy, international recognition, is just as dubious. The two pacts which sealed Palestine’s future were both concluded by Britain. First we signed the Sykes-Picot agreement with France, pledging to divvy up Ottoman spoils in the Levant. A year later, in 1917, the Balfour Declaration promised a national home for the Jewish people. Under international law the declaration was null and void since Palestine did not belong to Britain – under the pact of the League of Nations it belonged to Turkey.

        By the time the UN accepted a resolution on the partition of Palestine in 1947, Jews constituted 32% of the population and owned 5.6% of the land. By 1949, largely as a result of paramilitary organisations such as the Haganah, Irgun and Stern gang, Israel controlled 80% of Palestine and 770,000 non-Jews had been expelled from their country.

        This then is the potted history of the iniquities surrounding its own birth that Israel must acknowledge in order for peace to have a chance. After years of war, peace comes from forgiving, not forgetting; people never forget but they have an extraordinary capacity to forgive. Just look at South Africa, which showed the world that a cathartic truth must precede reconciliation.

        Far from being a force for liberation and safety after decades of suffering, the idea that Israel is some kind of religious birthright has only imprisoned Jews in a never-ending cycle of conflict. The “promise” breeds an arrogance which institutionalises the inferiority of other peoples and generates atrocities against them with alarming regularity. It allows soldiers to defy their consciences and blast unarmed schoolchildren. It gives rise to legislation seeking to prevent the acquisition of territory by non-Jews.

        More crucially, the promise limits Israel’s capacity to seek models of coexistence based on equality and the respect of human rights. A state based on so exclusivist a claim to legitimacy cannot but conceive of separation as a solution. But separation is not the same as lasting peace; it only pulls apart warring parties. It does not heal old wounds, let alone redress historical wrongs.

        However, take away the biblical right and suddenly mutual coexistence, even a one-state solution, doesn’t seem that far-fetched. What name that coexistence will take is less important than the fact that peoples have forgiven and that some measure of justice has been restored. Jews will continue to live in the Holy Land – as per the promise – as equals alongside its other rightful inhabitants.

        If that kind of self-reproach is forthcoming, Israel can expect the Palestinians to be forgiving and magnanimous in return. The alternative is perpetual war.

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/03/comment.israelandthepalestinians

      • Helen4Yemen
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      • Helen4Yemen
      • James Wherry

        More work on Olympic stadiums and less on terror tunnels would have helped this team. It seems that after 100 years, the Palestinian Arabs are still trying harder to ethnically cleanse the Jews from the land, than anything else they could constructively do. . .

        • TecumsehUnfaced

          ZioNazi thug country stealers can never understand when their evil deeds are resisted, and always whine like crazy.

          Anti-Semitism, It’s a trick we always use it.
          It’s a 19th century mistake adopted for calumny. Ashkenazi aren’t Semites, but Arabs are.
          https://youtu.be/D0kWAqZxJVE

        • Kevin O’Connor

          James you really have a serioous warped version of whats going on

      • Helen4Yemen

        David Ben-Gurion — “Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehoshua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.” – David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.

        • James Wherry

          The Palestinian efforts to cleanse the land of Jews had been under way for decades, by then. It was led in the early years by Palestinian Arab Mufti of Jerusalem Amin al-Husseini who later went to Hitler’s Germany and spent the war advocating for the murder of all Jews.

          the Mufti declared in November 1943:

          It is the duty of Muhammadans [Muslims] in general and Arabs in particular to … drive all Jews from Arab and Muhammadan countries… . Germany is also struggling against the common foe who oppressed Arabs and Muhammadans in their different countries. It has very clearly recognized the Jews for what they are and resolved to find a definitive solution [endgültige Lösung] for the Jewish danger that will eliminate the scourge that Jews represent in the world.[178] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini

          • Helen4Yemen

            Benny Morris — “Ben-Gurion was right. If he had not done what he did, a state would not have come into being. That has to be clear. It is impossible to evade it. Without uprooting of the Palestinians, a Jewish state would not have arisen here…. There is no justification for acts of rape. There is no justification for acts of massacre. Those are war crimes. But in certain conditions, expulsion is not a war crime. I don’t think that the expulsions of 1948 were war crimes. You can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs. You have to dirty your hands…. There are circumstances in history that justify ethnic cleansing…. That was the situation. That is what Zionism faced. A Jewish state would not have come into being without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. Therefore it was necessary to uproot them. There was no choice but to expel that population…. But I do not identify with Ben-Gurion. I think he made a serious historical mistake in 1948. Even though he understood the demographic issue and the need to establish a Jewish state without a large Arab minority, he got cold feet during the war. In the end, he faltered.”

          • Helen4Yemen

            http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bamk2j86cNE/UeIXy7xXulI/AAAAAAAAATQ/f4zoap_gIUc/s640/Screen+Shot+2013-07-14+at+1.20.39+PM.png

            WHORRY: In 1851, there were 327,000 non-Jews in Palestine and 13,000 Jews – (94% non-Jews and 4% Jews). Who do you think were those 327,000 living on that land at that time? How many Ashkenazi do you think were living in Palestine at that time?

          • Helen4Yemen

            http://edge.passblue.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Chamie_Chart.png

            WHORRY: Do you have a problem with figures shown on the chart?

            • James Wherry

              Simple: the Arabs stole the homes and land of the Jews in 23 Arab states and “ghettoized” them to a small sliver of land hugging the Mediterranean Sea. Don’t be surprised, when you go to kick them off of THIS land, that they stand and fight.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                The ZioNazi country stealers are chickensheet cowards that run whining and weeping from Hezbollah.

                • James Wherry

                  Dance, pigiet. Dance away and change the subject.

                  Happily, the MURDERERS of 290 U.S. Marines and French Soldiers and the TORTURERS and MURDERERS of Col. (USMC, ret.) William F. Higgins are getting the PAYBACK they deserve in Syria! Oink, little Hez-bi-Satan piggies! http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/hizbullah-under-fire-in-syria

                  Oh, and DO deny what I am saying! I want Hezbisatan to be caught COMPLETELY by SURPRISE.

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    You’re right! Your avatar is very piggish looking!

                    I bet you are so proud about the murderous assault by your ZioNazi pals on the U.S.S. Liberty.

                    Note that without the agitation by the ZioNazi thugs, there would have be no Marines stupidly invading Lebanon. They should have invaded Tel Aviv and shut these murderers down.

                    • James Wherry

                      The Israelis informed the Americans about the U.S.S. Liberty. It was an accident, but has NOTHING to do with this news story OR your previous post.

                      You change subjects, when you get caught. You are a paid Muslim troll.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        You lie just like the ZioNazi thugs lied about their intention murder attempt on the U.S. sailors.

                        Nobody believes the cover up, and nobody believes those pushing it. Thank you for machine gunning your credibility.

                        • James Wherry

                          You provide no support for your lies, as usual.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Anybody can do a search and see the huge array of evidence that makes your claim of innocence and those of the ZioNazi thugs look silly.

                        • James Wherry

                          Well, then just read the Koran!

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          More mythology for the Wherry the australopithecine.

                        • James Wherry

                          But it’s the MYTHOLOGY OF THE PALESTINIANS and YOU SUPPORT IT.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Nope, I’ve never pushed any mythology. You’ve done enough for both of us ten times over.

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                So that is again the silly excuse for the European ZioNazi thugs invading and stealing the homes of a million Palestinians.

                • James Wherry

                  Then why did the Arabs STEAL JEWSIH HOMES and JEWISH LANDS in 23 other nations that the Jews lived in, before the coming of the Arabs?

                  • TecumsehUnfaced

                    Actually, the expulsion of the Arab Jews was another machination of the Ben-Gurion by which he planned to fool and terrorize the Arab Jews into Palestine to serve the victorious European Zionist invaders of Palestine as laborers and farmers. It was Ben-Gurion who ordered the Zionist assaults on the Arab Jews.

                    Zionist crimes against the Jews
                    http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2013/11/11/zionist-crimes-against-the-jews

                    Zionist terror against the Jews
                    http://www.inminds.co.uk/jews-of-iraq.html

                    False flag of the Lavon affair
                    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html

                    All planned and ordered by David Ben-Gurion
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Plan

                    Thanks for reminding us that the assault of the alien European Zionist Ashkenazi invaders was not just against the people of Palestine but against all the Arab Jews. Thanks for reminding us of the vast evil of the European Zionists in forcing two Million Arab (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) people from their homes.

                    • James Wherry

                      So you use the same cut and paste lie, again. Honestly, there IS such a thing as COMPOSTING for your lies, you know.

                      • TecumsehUnfaced

                        Then stop showing that you are too stupid to understand them with one reading.

                        • James Wherry

                          You’ve wasted a comment.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Probably all my comments to you are wasted. You have barely enough neurons to absorb the the absurd mythology of the ZioNazi country stealers.

                        • James Wherry

                          With your diareah of the mouth, it looks like you want to upchuck into the minds of your readers with your filthy, jihadist lies.

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          You’ve copied and pasted a lot more words than I, absurd ones to boot.

              • Helen4Yemen

                You are a f—— idiot, I asked you if you agreed with the Palestine Mandate population figures and you replied with nonsense.
                You are tedious

                • TecumsehUnfaced

                  I told Wherry to thank you for persuading me to leave you to your imbecility.

                  Thanks!

                  • Helen4Yemen

                    I think this where the block feature has its use. I will certainly block him and never again will I dignify him with my answer. Good riddance.

                    • TecumsehUnfaced

                      Right! You can’t be tempted to knock his nonsense, if you don’t see it.

                      (Poor thing will scream from lack of attention.)

                      • Helen4Yemen

                        I blocked him and I feel relief – gone!

                        • TecumsehUnfaced

                          Same here. It’s like getting rid of the measles with a few clicks of the mouse.

                        • Helen4Yemen

                          Perfect! We can now spend our time where it will be effective.
                          I think Tapatio is right to come hard on the delusional.
                          Good riddance!

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                Now thank Helen for persuading me to leave you to your imbecility.

          • Helen4Yemen

            Excuse me: How did ‘the Jews” grow from 3% to 50% and
            the Muslims dwindled from 90% to 47% and
            the Christians from 8% to 2%?
            _______

            Year — Muslims — Jews — Chrstians
            1800 — 89.50% — 2.54% — 8%
            1890 — 81.20% — 8% — 10.70%
            1914 — 76.20% — 13.64% — 10.15%
            1922 — 78% — 11% — 10%
            1931 — 74% — 17% — 9%
            1945 — 60% — 31% — 8%
            1950 — 47% — 50% — 3%
            2000 — 45% — 53% — 2%
            2014 — 47% — 50% — 2%

      • Helen4Yemen

        Helen Thomas: Where is the Jewish conscience?

        “But what am I supposed to do, love every Jew because they want to take Palestine? It’s a real cause with me. They should have a conscience and they don’t if that’s what they’re going to do. Is there such a thing as a conscience? I think there is. Stop taking what doesn’t belong to you! Stop killing these people. These children throw stones at them, and they shoot them. Where is the Jewish conscience? I want to know. Have some feeling. They can’t just come in and say, “This is my home,” knock on the door at three in the morning and have the Israeli military take them out. That’s what happens. And that’s what happened to the Jews in Germany. Why do they inflict that same pain on people who did nothing to them?”

        • James Wherry

          Resisting the apartheid Palestine you want to create.

          • Helen4Yemen

            1- Who expelled Jews 109 times from Europe?
            2- Who performed dozens of pogroms on Jews?
            3- Who performed the ‘holocaust’?
            Not Arabs! Not Muslims! Right?
            That was done by Christian Europe. Right?

          • Helen4Yemen

            Actually, Palestine is the ancestral land of Jews, but only of Palestinian Jews. That land belongs to Palestinian Jews, Muslims, Christians and nobody else.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Helen Thomas: On the ‘holocaust”

        “There’s nothing wrong with remembering it, but why do we have to constantly remember? We’re not at fault. I mean, if they’re going to put a Holocaust museum in every city in Germany, that’s fine with me. But we didn’t do this to the Jews. Why do we have to keep paying the price and why do they keep oppressing the Palestinians? Do the Jews ever look at themselves? Why are they always right? Because they have been oppressed throughout history, I know. And they have this persecution. That’s true, but they shouldn’t use that to dominate.”

      • Helen4Yemen

        Helen Thomas: European Jews are not Semites!

        “If you have a home and you’re kicked out of that home, you don’t come and kick someone else out. Anti-Semite? The Israelis are not even Semites! They’re Europeans, and they’ve come from somewhere else. But even if they were Semites, they would still have no right to usurp other people’s land.”

        • James Wherry

          Since 1919, Palestinian Arabs worked to drive Jews from their lands. This is PROVEN by the fact that AFTER the 1948 “ceasefire,” the Arabs force marched 100% of ALL JEWS from the West Bank and Gaza, including the JEWISH QUARTER. This was done to ALL Jews regardless of any ethnic affiliation.

          • TecumsehUnfaced

            This was after the savage European ZioNazi country stealers accomplished …

            Over 750,000 people (~80%) driven off their ancestral lands

            Over 600 Arab villages and towns BULLDOZED

            It’s amazing the way sick, vicious ZioNazi country stealers whine, when their victims want to protect themselves from continued ZioNazi assaults.

      • Helen4Yemen

        Helen Thomas:

        “What I meant was they should stay where they are because they’re not being persecuted—not since World War II, not since 1945. If they were, we sure would hear about it. Instead, they initiated the Jackson-Vanik law, which said the U.S. would not trade with Russia unless it allowed unlimited Jewish emigration. But it was not immigration to the United States, which would have been fine with me. It was to go to Palestine and uproot these people, throw them out of their homes, which they have done through several wars. That’s not fair. I want people to understand why the Palestinians are upset. They are incarcerated and living in an open prison. I say to the Israelis, “Get out of people’s homes!” It’s unacceptable to have soldiers knocking on a door at three in the morning and saying, “This is my home.” And forcing people out of homes they’ve lived in for centuries? What is this? How can anybody accept it? I mean, Jewish-only roads? Would anyone tolerate something like that in America? White-only roads?”

      • Helen4Yemen

        Bertrand Russell — We are frequently told that we must sympathize with Israel because of the suffering of the Jews in Europe at the hands of the Nazis. I see in this suggestion no reason to perpetuate any suffering. What Israel is doing today cannot be condoned, and to invoke the horrors of the past to justify those of the present is gross hypocrisy. Not only does Israel condemn a vast number. of refugees to misery; not only are many Arabs under occupation condemned to military rule; but also Israel condemns the Arab nations only recently emerging from colonial status, to continued impoverishment as military demands take precedence over national development. (This statement was dated 31st January, 1970, and he died on 2nd February 1970)

      • Helen4Yemen

        Ariel Sharon (Arik Scheinermann) — It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.

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      • James Wherry

        If the Palestinians had used cement to build olympic parks instead of terror tunnels into Israel, they would have had what they needed. The only “apartheid state” would be a nation of Palestine which promises to be “Judenein.”

      • Helen4Yemen

        ||“It’s a good chance to represent Palestine, to tell the world that Palestine is there and that one day Palestine will be free. To tell the world our story through sports, to tell the world our culture, our daily life … There is a lot of pride in our team. Not to win medals, but to represent the Palestinian people.”||

        ________________
        Yep, ‘the European people without a land” landed on a land with a native people.

        • James Wherry

          If they are Arabs, they should go back to Arabia.

          The truth is that the Palestinian ARABS who left Israel in 1948 were BORN into the Ottoman Empire which comprised the land of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Arabia and Kuwait. These Ottoman descendants are “home” now, if they are living in THOSE lands.

          • Helen4Yemen

            What about the Palestinian Christians? Did a Palestinian Christian live on that land?

            • James Wherry

              There were Muslims, Christians and Jews in the land, but in 1948, the ONLY ones that YOU Palestinian Arabs ethnically cleansed were JEWS. By contrast, 150,000 Palestinian Arabs were permitted to remain in pre-1967 Israel. Their numbers today are 1.9 million, along with the 4 million Palestinian Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza. If you win, you will cleanse all Jews from the land – as your leaders have promised.

              • Helen4Yemen

                You said: => The truth is that the Palestinian ARABS who left Israel in 1948 were BORN into the Ottoman Empire which comprised the land of Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Arabia and Kuwait. These Ottoman descendants are “home” now, if they are living in THOSE lands.<=

                Now – you are changing your mind? Now you are saying there were Palestinian Muslims-Christian-Jews? Is that what you are saying,
                WHORRY?

              • TecumsehUnfaced

                You would be complaining about the departure of invader ZioNazi thugs who have stolen your home and immiserated your life?