Do The Math: Global War On Terror Has Killed 4 Million Muslims Or More

A recent study suggests the “War on Terror” has had two million victims, but reporter Nafeez Ahmed claims this may be only a fraction of the total dead from Western wars.
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    In this Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2004 file photo, a man is questioned in the living room of his home during a raid by the 82nd Airborne Division near Fallujah, Iraq.

    In this Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2004 file photo, a man is questioned in the living room of his home during a raid by the 82nd Airborne Division near Fallujah, Iraq.

    WASHINGTON — A study released earlier this year revealed the shocking death toll of the United States’s “War on Terror” since the 9/11 terrorist attacks, but the true body count could be even higher.

    Published in March by Physicians for Social Responsibility, the study, conducted by a team that included some Nobel Prize winners, determined that at least 1.3 million people have died as a result of war since Sept.11, 2001, but the real figure might be as high as two million. The study was an attempt to “close the gaps” in existing research, including studies like the Iraq Body Count,” which puts the number of violent deaths in that country at about 219,000 since 2003, based on media reports of the time period.

    Investigative journalist Nafeez Ahmed, writing in April for Middle East Eye, explained some of the ways the previous figures fell short, according to the physicians’ research:


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    “For instance, although 40,000 corpses had been buried in Najaf since the launch of the war, IBC [Iraq Body Count] recorded only 1,354 deaths in Najaf for the same period. That example shows how wide the gap is between IBC’s Najaf figure and the actual death toll – in this case, by a factor of over 30.

    Such gaps are replete throughout IBC’s database. In another instance, IBC recorded just three airstrikes in a period in 2005, when the number of air attacks had in fact increased from 25 to 120 that year. Again, the gap here is by a factor of 40.”

    The physicians behind the study also praised a controversial report from the medical journal The Lancet that placed the toll count far higher than that of Iraq Body Count, at closer to one million dead. In addition to the war in Iraq, the PSR study added additional victims from other countries where the United States has waged war:

    “To this, the PSR study adds at least 220,000 in Afghanistan and 80,000 in Pakistan, killed as the direct or indirect consequence of US-led war: a ‘conservative’ total of 1.3 million. The real figure could easily be ‘in excess of 2 million’.”

    These figures may still be underestimating the real death toll, according to Ahmed. These studies only account for the victims of violent conflict, but not the many more who will die as a result of the damage war brings to crucial infrastructure, from roads to farms to hospitals — not to mention devastating sanctions like those placed on Iraq after the first Gulf War in 1991. He continues:

    Undisputed UN figures show that 1.7 million Iraqi civilians died due to the West’s brutal sanctions regime, half of whom were children.

    The mass death was seemingly intended. Among items banned by the UN sanctions were chemicals and equipment essential for Iraq’s national water treatment system. A secret US Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) document discovered by Professor Thomas Nagy of the School of Business at George Washington University amounted, he said, to ‘an early blueprint for genocide against the people of Iraq.’”

    Similar figures for Afghanistan, he reports, could bring totals to four million or more.

    As Ahmed points out in his article, the majority of those killed in these wars and those suffering most from these wars, statistically speaking, were Muslim — a stark contrast to the common view that radical Muslim terrorists are the deadliest group in the Middle East. Rather, it would seem the American military are the worst killers, and the death toll resembles religious genocide. In 2009, Stephen M. Walt, a professor of international relations at Harvard, wrote in Foreign Policy:

    “How many Muslims has the United States killed in the past thirty years, and how many Americans have been killed by Muslims? Coming up with a precise answer to this question is probably impossible, but it is also not necessary, because the rough numbers are so clearly lopsided.”

    Or, as Ben Affleck famously quipped to Bill Maher last year: “We’ve killed more Muslims than they’ve killed us by an awful lot.”

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      • Alex

        Where did the 4 million number come from!?

      • SuperDave2

        Only 4 million? Crap, I’m disappointed !

        • Frog House

          This is what’s wrong with the world

      • earwax_

        in 1914 Christian Archduke Ferdinand was assassinated by a Muslim.
        This caused WW1 which resulted in 35 million deaths.
        WW1 caused WW2 which resulted in 60 million deaths.
        WW2 resulted in the Soviet Union and the spread of Communism in Asia
        Deaths caused by the Soviet Union: unknown
        Korean War deaths: 5 million and rising
        Vietnam War deaths estimated 1.3 million
        Deaths caused by Communist China: unknown and rising
        Deaths from war and ethnic cleansing in Southern Europe after the fall of the Soviet Union: Unknown
        They complain 4 million Muslims dead because of US military in 30 years. I see at least 100 million humans dead because of 1 Muslim in the last 100 years.
        What is happening today is the result of a Muslim killing Archduke Ferdinand.
        Muhammad would probably roll over in his grave if he new what his children did to divide Islam and cause all of this.
        Peace be with you all. Respect each other and forgive those who don’t.

        • termbb4

          The assassin of archduke Ferdinand was Christian, your lies won’t break facts buddy.
          So basically it is a Christian who caused over 100 million deaths.

          Nice try bud, better luck next time.

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      • John Smith

        Barely scratched the surface. Humanity needs to work out a faster way to kill more of them.

        • Frog House

          Are you retarded what is your depiction of humanity if you’re talking about wiping out innocent lives ?

      • John Partridge

        nice try but we’re not to blame for sectarian violence

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      • Neil Tana

        Most of them are innocent “human beings”!!! If a fraction of that number were US citizens we would have a nuclear war. No media coverage of these deaths. A significant portion of them were probably women and children. We did a smaller version of this in South America. Get the countries into debt, they cannot pay, send in the American corporations to save the day but steal the resources, local government sees the BS and starts resisting, America sends in the CIA to find and arm people who would want the power, start the media machine to demonize the government, force the overthrow of the government, put in a puppet, bring in the corporations, enslave the population… in then end the people of the country are in greater poverty than when they started and they owe all their resources and land to American mulinational companies. Brilliant plan.

        • dcm

          A fraction of that number provoked attacking the wrong countries, so yes.

        • richbpink

          Most honest and truthful reply i have ever seen well said !

        • Buck Eichler

          some elements of truth but much hype. Nothing is ever so black and white, but pursuing self-interest in international affairs is no secret.

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      • areeves1850@yahoo.com

        Lets not lose focus here. The more muslim/islam pigs that die, the better. They are savages that have blown up more of their own people than we ever dreamed of.

        • Cat Fish

          i am so sorry but i believe you must have been asleep this last week, when russia came in, blew up isis,, then washington, my comander and chief said,, welll, we must uptick the training of these cats because russia killed our ,,, isil agents i.e. all 10,000 blackwater white boy private contractors we left behind,, they been killing over there for years now, including EVERY DAMN BOMB BLEW UP IN OUR FACE EVERY BULLET FIRED AT OUR TROOPS WAS PAID FOR DELIVERED AND TRAINED TO USE BY MY PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS WHO THE HELLLLL ARE YOU CALLING MONSTERS YOU YOU ARE THE GOD DAMNED MONSTER FOR ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN THEN STILL BLAMING SOEONE BEING NUKED THESE LAST COUPLE MONTHS BY ISREAL AND FUNDED BY USA YOUR GOVT WHILE WE WERE OVER SEAS FIGHTING FOR YOUR RIGHT TO BE SO FREAKING IGNORANT

        • It’s a well-known fact the US has killed more people in the Middle East than anybody else. Keep up the racism and keep your head in the sand – it’s really doing the world a lot of good.

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      • Joe Schmoe

        Most of the dead were killed by other Muslims, Then liumping the Iraqis who died due to the sanctions, which were part of the peace treaty from 1993, is plain criminal, Their deaths are Saddam’s fault, because he didn’t comply with the terms of the peace treaty It’s the usual left wing blame America and the West nonsense

        • Mirko Kriskovic

          someone is been smoking some bad weed or is a troll because no one can possible be that STUPID!

        • The usual head in the sand America can do no wrong nonsense from someone who just let’s his country get away with murder – literally. The chemicals used in the public water system to prevent dysentery were specifically barred during the sanctions.

          • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

            Yeah, because it was all a bed of roses before the Americans arrived. Saddam was responsible for hundreds of thousands of Iraqi death, including gassing a 100,000 Kurds. If America never invaded the Middle East there would have likely been just as many casualty as the Middle East is in a constant state of conflict. If you had your way the entire population of Kuwait would probably have been wiped out in the early 90s.

            • Saddam doesn’t have anything on the American killing of over 1,000,000 Iraqis due to sanctions (if you’re good with math you will realize that’s adding one more zero to your inflated Kurdish death toll). Most of the Middle East problems have been caused by American interference creating instability. It wasn’t a bed of roses, but they would have been better off if there wasn’t any oil for us to idolize. We have never gone there for humanitarian reasons to make their land a better place, however, when I suggest to right wingers that we do that, they give me a hard time. Of course, they don’t have any idea why we are there, and you don’t either.

              • Bryan Katz

                What a load of crap. 1 million or more Iranians were killed by Iraq in the war from 1980-1988. Bush Sr.’s big mistake was not ousting Saddam back in 1991. good riddance to a dogshit dictator.

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      • disqus_lxhOkuBGvA

        Can you imagine if those killed where Europeans and Americans, we would never hear the end of it. How can anyone doubt that the US and the West planned to eliminate millions of Muslim long before 9/11, and this in itself point to who was really responsible for the twin towers. Those that still believe the government line, well, I feel sorry for you, to live in denial is a very dangerous thing to do.

        • OhioBrian

          Go off and drink your conspiracy Kool-Aid you friggin loon!

          • There’s nothing conspiratorial about history everybody can read in Wikipedia. Half a million Iraqi children deliberately killed due to sanctions. Get yourself informed.

        • Neil Tana

          You know what, they don’t care if they die because they are viewed as sub human. This world is totally screwed because the greatest country the world has ever seen has become an abomination. They cry about a few people being murdered for weeks and we shed no one tear for the 100,000’s of middle eastern women and children that have died in our war against terror. Sadam and Gaddafi put together wouldn’t have even come close to that number of deaths.

          • Xi’an Wright

            I don’t disagree with 99% of what you have said, Saddam however did kill a million+ Muslims. When you factor in the Iran-Iraq war, the bombing and slaughtering of the Kurd’s, and the amount of his own people that he killed (the last two though pale in comparison the war)

            • oliver

              And who supplied and supported Saddam during Iran-Iraq war?

              • Shredder

                Funny isn’t it? Reagan sold arms to Iran to pay for an illegal war in Nicaragua and then financed and provided arms to Iran’s enemy, Iraq to keep them in check. Then we had to reel in Saddam after he used the poison gas we gave him. It was okay when he used it on the Iranians, but not those poor Kurds.

            • NDDEM

              Where did you get your numbers?

              “Estimates as to the number of Iraqis killed by Saddam’s regime vary from roughly a quarter to half a million”
              “Estimates for the number of dead in the Iran-Iraq war range upwards from 300,000”

              Don’t get me wrong…that’s a LOT of people….but it’s also a lot of people short of a million.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saddam_Hussein%27s_Iraq#Number_of_victims

          • Jasey Kat

            I have thought about this a great deal. I read a lot of Noam Chomsky. I am not a bible toter but its almost like a self full filling prophesy except we appear to be the ones killing mankind and starting the wars. Way before 911 we have committed a lot of killing via airstrikes on Iraq. If this is not insanity I don’t know what is…

      • Yes it’s True

        Jews want Muslims dead, simple as that. Christians are next, especially Orthodox ones.

      • Slavko Vukic

        I just say to all muslims, LIVE Europe or all you will die there !!! Live now !!!!

        • Chasna M.

          *leave

        • Mudhar Hadi

          And you are an idiot…

      • Robert Munro

        A couple of documents are very relevant to this discussion.

        First is a plan, written for Netanyahu’s reign as Emperor of Greater Israel. The writer is the pseudo-American Zionist fanatic, Richard Perle………

        http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1438.htm

        Next is a report A Report of The Project for the New American Century completed in September 2000………..

        http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

        Compare actual events from 2001 to date to the plans outlined in this “report”. Please note, at the end of the report, the list of fanatical Zionists and their sycophants who are responsible for……

        “REBUILDING AMERICA’S DEFENSES Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century”

        Paul
        Wolfowitz

        William Kristol

        Alvin Bernstein

        Eliot Cohen

        David Epstein

        Donald Kagan

        Fred Kagan

        Robert Kagan

        Robert Killebrew

        Steve Rosen

        Gary Schmitt

        Abram Shulsky

        Dov Zakheim

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      • General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned – Seven Countries In Five Years

        “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” I said, “Is it classified?” He said, “Yes, sir.” I said, “Well, don’t show it to me.” And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, “You remember that?” He said, “Sir, I didn’t show you that memo! I didn’t show it to you!”

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw&feature=player_embedded

        General Wesley Clark Asked About 7 Country War Plan

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pGkFMho6Co

        • Robert Munro

          Clark is ABSOLUTELY correct.

        • Jasey Kat

          Notice how he leaves out Asia, if you do your studying you will find out there are hundreds of millions of Muslims in Asia.

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      • Cam

        The US never found WMDs in Iraq, apart from the ones Rumsfeld sold to Saddam, care of the US.
        The Greatest Terrorist Legacy from the US will be its use of BANNED radio-active WMDs, throughout Iraq & other countries, which will Keep Killing & Mutilating for hundreds of thousands of years…

        Depleted Uranium Birth Defects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8QOvr0PLW4

        DU Beyond Treason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQcCWaLXXJI

        Depleted
        Uranium Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKgMQUDZIKA&list=PL-VyuxzMsQ8o-AeKg1Yqx9EJ3qSXcBhiP

        US Responsible for Contaminating Iraq
        with DU: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-responsibility-of-the-us-in-contaminating-iraq-with-depleted-uranium/15966

        Guardian
        on DU: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/19/us-depleted-uranium-weapons-civilian-areas-iraq

        • fuster

          what “banned radio-active WMDs” did the US use?

          • Robert Munro

            Depleted Uranium ammunition, imbecile Judeo-Troll.

            • fuster

              not banned, pathological idiot.

              • Timothy Milhomme

                Says who ? It might not be banned but it is oh so immoral like just about everything these evil traitors do.

                • fuster

                  sez me. it’s not banned. you can’t show anything that says otherwise…….. and DU munitions are no more and no less “immoral” than are other munitions, Timmy.

                  • Timothy Milhomme

                    Who are you. And I didn’t say they were less immoral. of course all forms of human destruction are immoral. You sound like you think you have a seat on the ride by going along with these scum that are making all this happen. I think you opinion would be different if it was happening to you

                    • fuster

                      if someone hit me with a DU projectile I wouldn’t be able to avoid going for the ride.

                      but my point was refuting your erronious claim that DU munition are banned….then questioning what sense there might be in singling out DU munitions as particularly “immoral” they are not. they are merely better at penetrating.

                      • Timothy Milhomme

                        I DID NOT say DU was banned. I said it was immoral. And I also said that the harm caused by the DU is hurting are own people. Radiation no matter what form is DEADLY to any living thing. DU wasn’t allowed for use knowing the consequences but the same people that decided torture was ok said that to use DU was also ok. Like I did write before your opinion of it would be different about it if you were on the receiving end of it.

                        • fuster

                          radiation is not deadly and we are all exposed to it every day

                        • Timothy Milhomme

                          What ever you say. Good luck genius.

                        • fuster

                          it’s not what I say. it’s what every physicist knows and says

                      • Timothy Milhomme

                        The ride was just a way of saying that because you side with these evil mentally ill people that say using DU is ok that you are on their side and they will find a place for you in their world , club , whatever way you want to look at it. Good luck.

                  • Cam

                    Two of the 200 Quotes & Links you can Google in 2min, if you weren’t a lobotimized Fk Wit… “All weapons that contain DU are considered to be radioactive
                    poison gas weapons and as such they violate the Geneva Conventions under
                    the 1925 Geneva Poison Gas Control Protocol. DU weapons are a permanent
                    terrain contaminant and have a half-life of 4.5 billion years. DU can cause
                    DNA damage, as well as cancer, leukemia and tragic birth defects.
                    It is a kidney, liver, and neuro-toxin. Multiple independent studies
                    confirm this. There is a list of references documenting DU health
                    damage on Wikipedia.” http://www.nuclearreader.info/chapter6.html

                    “British and American coalition forces using depleted uranium (DU) shells
                    in the war against Iraq are deliberately contravening this United
                    Nations resolution which classifies the munitions as weapons of mass
                    destruction.” http://www.reachingcriticalwill.org/resources/fact-sheets/critical-issues/4585-depleted-uranium

                    • fuster

                      DU weapons are not poison gas weapons , don’t violate any of the Protocols and …simply…are not banned.

                      you can’t wish international banning into place, Cam

                      • Timothy Milhomme

                        Radioactivity in any form harms ALL LIFE. Because these evil mentally ill people say it’s ok doesn’t mean it is.

                  • Timothy Milhomme

                    Never said it was banned. You must be one of those people that think those tyrannical mentally ill people will like you because you are going along with their B/S. Good luck.

              • Robert Munro

                ONLY because sub-humans of your cult control Washington temporarily, Jew scum.

                The truest words in Judaism………

                “To communicate anything with a Goy about our relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.

                Found in both the Torah and the Talmud on Jewish Virtual Library site.

                This criminal cult, masquerading as religion and ethnicity, is going to CHOKE on
                what it hates and fears most – THE TRUTH

                “Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.”
                Moshe Dayan

                Rabid dogs MUST be destroyed for the good of humanity. They are capable of NOTHING, except spreading their disease.

                http://nodisinfo.com/rabid-zionist-jews-burnt-palestinian-youth-alive/

                https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/concentrate-and-exterminate-israel-parliament-deputy-speakers-gaza-genocide-plan

          • Timothy Milhomme

            Depleted uranium

            • fuster

              it’s not banned, Timmy

              • Cam

                DU is BANNED as a Weapon!!! The UK, some NATO countries & the US produce DU munitions but ONLY the US (so far) has used DU munitions in civilian areas & against combatants. The US gets around the ban by NOT being a signator to just about every International treaty on Ethical use of weapons & NOT being a signatory to the ICC…
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_International_Criminal_Court

              • Timothy Milhomme

                Never said it was

          • Timothy Milhomme

            And DU is killing our own US troops and causing birth defects to the babies not only of the country they used the crap against but again to the service personnel that came in contact with it. Of course most would never hear about it if you get your news from LAME STREAM MEDIA

        • Timothy Milhomme

          It seems like the U.S. Policy is don’t do as I I do but do as I say

          • Jasey Kat

            US policy is made by large corporations, people are just elected to make calm the citizens and let them believe they have power, its all a sham.

            • mokopit

              Treasonous sham

        • fuster

          the birth defects in Iraq are not from expended US DU munitions, Cam that’s a rumor and not at all factual. during Saddam’s regime the Iraqis dumped radioactive waste in many sites inside the country.

          • Timothy Milhomme

            Then how do you explain that happening to OUR own people .

            • fuster

              explain what?

              there’s nothing akin to the horsebleep mutagenic claims noted in the offspring of GIs.

          • disqus_lxhOkuBGvA

            So how come nothing went wrong until after the west used depleted uranium. They knew it would be dangerous, even western soldiers have had serious problems from handling these weapons. You’ll be saying next that asbestos is safe.

            • fuster

              who said nothing went wrong before then?

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      • dubinsky

        you can try pinning all the Muslims slaughtered by other Muslims on Westerners, but then you’re just fullashit and lying to yourselves and everyone else.

        • Robert Munro

          THIS IS THE CAUSE OF THE ATTACKS ON THE MUSLIM STATES…………

          A couple of documents are very relevant to this discussion. They are not American documents, they are Jewish, even though written by creatures who hold US birth certificates.

          First is a plan, written for Netanyahu’s reign as Emperor of Greater Israel. The writer is the pseudo-American Zionist fanatic, Richard Perle………

          http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1438.htm

          Next is a report A Report of The Project for the New American Century completed in September 2000………..

          http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

          Compare actual events from 2001 to date to the plans outlined in this “report”. Please note, at the end of the report, the list of fanatical Zionists and their sycophants who are responsible for……

          “REBUILDING
          AMERICA’S DEFENSES Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century”

          Paul
          Wolfowitz

          William Kristol

          Alvin Bernstein

          Eliot Cohen

          David Epstein

          Donald Kagan

          Fred Kagan

          Robert Kagan

          Robert Killebrew

          Steve Rosen

          Gary Schmitt

          Abram Shulsky

          Dov Zakheim